漫画 VS MARVEL

Tue 2007/06/19 18:19 JST
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さ、あなたはどっち?日本の漫画、あるいはアメリカのMARVELコミック?
日本語を勉強し始めた時はよく漫画を読んでいました。最初の漫画は高橋留美子の「らんま1/2」。漢字にはふりがなもふっていて、漢字の勉強にもなった。好きなキャラはあかねだった^^;
韓国語を勉強し始めた時に、ソウルにあるKyobo Mungoという大きな本屋で韓国版のらんまを買い、とても韓国語の勉強になった。

次はクレヨンしんちゃんだった。漫画版ってアニメ版とネタが全然違うんだね。漫画には下ねたが多い!とても勉強になりました。現在はいなり寿司を食べる時はいつもクレヨンしんちゃんのことが頭に浮かんでくる。それでたまに食べづらい^^;

MARVELのコミックは小さい頃に少ししか読んでいなかった。友人の中ではMARVELオタクがいて、コミックの発売日に店の外で並ぶんだ。

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いつも読んで頂いている方はこの挨拶を永遠に閉じよう^^;

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  • Otaku Surf
    Otaku Surf in Maryland (Registered on 2007/06/04)
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    http://www.otaku-surf.com

    When I was younger it was Marvel. I loved the art back when they did really detailed art and kept a monthly schedule. Jim Lee, Todd Mcfarlane, Whilice Portacio,Marc Silvestri, etc.,etc.
    Now the art is more simple and it's hard for them to keep up a bi-montly timetable(or a timetable period), if they draw at all.

    Ironically enough I got introduced to manga through Marvel, when the company put out the Akira trade books in color(which was amazing in my opinion). After that it's been manga all the way. The only marvel title I have kept up with is The Ultimates but it has since ended.

    I agree Ellen Page was good in X3, she was one of a few things that was good in that movie.

    Tue 2007/06/19 18:55:29 JST (ID #49998)
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  • Otaku Surf
    Otaku Surf in Maryland (Registered on 2007/06/04)
    Web Producer
    http://www.otaku-surf.com

    When I was younger it was Marvel. I loved the art back when they did really detailed art and kept a monthly schedule. Jim Lee, Todd Mcfarlane, Whilice Portacio,Marc Silvestri, etc.,etc.
    Now the art is more simple and it's hard for them to keep up a bi-montly timetable(or a timetable period), if they draw at all.

    Ironically enough I got introduced to manga through Marvel, when the company put out the Akira trade books in color(which was amazing in my opinion). After that it's been manga all the way. The only marvel title I have kept up with is The Ultimates but it has since ended.

    I agree Ellen Page was good in X3, she was one of a few things that was good in that movie.

    Tue 2007/06/19 18:55:29 JST (ID #92002)
    reply to Otaku Surf's comment
  • Otaku Surf
    Otaku Surf in Maryland (Registered on 2007/06/04)
    Web Producer
    http://www.otaku-surf.com

    When I was younger it was Marvel. I loved the art back when they did really detailed art and kept a monthly schedule. Jim Lee, Todd Mcfarlane, Whilice Portacio,Marc Silvestri, etc.,etc.
    Now the art is more simple and it's hard for them to keep up a bi-montly timetable(or a timetable period), if they draw at all.

    Ironically enough I got introduced to manga through Marvel, when the company put out the Akira trade books in color(which was amazing in my opinion). After that it's been manga all the way. The only marvel title I have kept up with is The Ultimates but it has since ended.

    I agree Ellen Page was good in X3, she was one of a few things that was good in that movie.

    Tue 2007/06/19 18:55:29 JST (ID #117698)
    reply to Otaku Surf's comment
  • Otaku Surf
    Otaku Surf in Maryland (Registered on 2007/06/04)
    Web Producer
    http://www.otaku-surf.com

    When I was younger it was Marvel. I loved the art back when they did really detailed art and kept a monthly schedule. Jim Lee, Todd Mcfarlane, Whilice Portacio,Marc Silvestri, etc.,etc.
    Now the art is more simple and it's hard for them to keep up a bi-montly timetable(or a timetable period), if they draw at all.

    Ironically enough I got introduced to manga through Marvel, when the company put out the Akira trade books in color(which was amazing in my opinion). After that it's been manga all the way. The only marvel title I have kept up with is The Ultimates but it has since ended.

    I agree Ellen Page was good in X3, she was one of a few things that was good in that movie.

    Tue 2007/06/19 18:55:29 JST (ID #143523)
    reply to Otaku Surf's comment
  • Edward
    Edward in SE Michigan/Osaka (Registered on 2006/12/24)
    Troubleshooter, Universal Exports
    http://funkyblueame.tumblr.com/

    Manga without a doubt.

    Simply because art, story and releases are a lot more consistent than anything here in the U.S. Also my interest in American comics has been tainted by the extreme garbage that was turned out in the 70's and early 80's. Along with the people trying to turn the hobby into a speculative commodities market in the late 80's.

    No doubt manga makes for a great reading and grammar study. We are so luck! Not too many languages allow us to indulge in our hobby as well as study at the same time. Interesting Danny, City Hunter and Cats Eye where two of the first "test my memory" series for me too. Ooh but I didn't do so well... ^^; Still have a slow at Kanji retention, but I have improved greatly over the last couple of years.

    Tue 2007/06/19 19:25:31 JST (ID #49999)
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  • Edward
    Edward in SE Michigan/Osaka (Registered on 2006/12/24)
    Troubleshooter, Universal Exports
    http://funkyblueame.tumblr.com/

    Manga without a doubt.

    Simply because art, story and releases are a lot more consistent than anything here in the U.S. Also my interest in American comics has been tainted by the extreme garbage that was turned out in the 70's and early 80's. Along with the people trying to turn the hobby into a speculative commodities market in the late 80's.

    No doubt manga makes for a great reading and grammar study. We are so luck! Not too many languages allow us to indulge in our hobby as well as study at the same time. Interesting Danny, City Hunter and Cats Eye where two of the first "test my memory" series for me too. Ooh but I didn't do so well... ^^; Still have a slow at Kanji retention, but I have improved greatly over the last couple of years.

    Tue 2007/06/19 19:25:31 JST (ID #92003)
    reply to Edward's comment
  • Edward
    Edward in SE Michigan/Osaka (Registered on 2006/12/24)
    Troubleshooter, Universal Exports
    http://funkyblueame.tumblr.com/

    Manga without a doubt.

    Simply because art, story and releases are a lot more consistent than anything here in the U.S. Also my interest in American comics has been tainted by the extreme garbage that was turned out in the 70's and early 80's. Along with the people trying to turn the hobby into a speculative commodities market in the late 80's.

    No doubt manga makes for a great reading and grammar study. We are so luck! Not too many languages allow us to indulge in our hobby as well as study at the same time. Interesting Danny, City Hunter and Cats Eye where two of the first "test my memory" series for me too. Ooh but I didn't do so well... ^^; Still have a slow at Kanji retention, but I have improved greatly over the last couple of years.

    Tue 2007/06/19 19:25:31 JST (ID #117699)
    reply to Edward's comment
  • Edward
    Edward in SE Michigan/Osaka (Registered on 2006/12/24)
    Troubleshooter, Universal Exports
    http://funkyblueame.tumblr.com/

    Manga without a doubt.

    Simply because art, story and releases are a lot more consistent than anything here in the U.S. Also my interest in American comics has been tainted by the extreme garbage that was turned out in the 70's and early 80's. Along with the people trying to turn the hobby into a speculative commodities market in the late 80's.

    No doubt manga makes for a great reading and grammar study. We are so luck! Not too many languages allow us to indulge in our hobby as well as study at the same time. Interesting Danny, City Hunter and Cats Eye where two of the first "test my memory" series for me too. Ooh but I didn't do so well... ^^; Still have a slow at Kanji retention, but I have improved greatly over the last couple of years.

    Tue 2007/06/19 19:25:31 JST (ID #143524)
    reply to Edward's comment
  • NickC
    NickC in Vancouver. SFU (Registered on 2007/01/15)
    Future Electronics Engineer.
    http://www.sfu.ca/~nwc

    I've always fancied American comics especially Spiderman, and never jumped into the realm of manga.

    Tue 2007/06/19 19:26:18 JST (ID #50001)
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  • NickC
    NickC in Vancouver. SFU (Registered on 2007/01/15)
    Future Electronics Engineer.
    http://www.sfu.ca/~nwc

    I've always fancied American comics especially Spiderman, and never jumped into the realm of manga.

    Tue 2007/06/19 19:26:18 JST (ID #92005)
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  • NickC
    NickC in Vancouver. SFU (Registered on 2007/01/15)
    Future Electronics Engineer.
    http://www.sfu.ca/~nwc

    I've always fancied American comics especially Spiderman, and never jumped into the realm of manga.

    Tue 2007/06/19 19:26:18 JST (ID #117701)
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  • NickC
    NickC in Vancouver. SFU (Registered on 2007/01/15)
    Future Electronics Engineer.
    http://www.sfu.ca/~nwc

    I've always fancied American comics especially Spiderman, and never jumped into the realm of manga.

    Tue 2007/06/19 19:26:18 JST (ID #143526)
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  • syrix
    syrix in U.S. (Registered on 2007/03/21)
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    http://animesugoi.animeblogger.net/

    I remember growing up with Marvel before I learned about manga. Comics like Marvel are too serious and bloody now for my taste now. I remember it being all in color lol which totally differs from manga being in black and white. I personally prefer manga.

    Tue 2007/06/19 19:34:07 JST (ID #50002)
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  • syrix
    syrix in U.S. (Registered on 2007/03/21)
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    I remember growing up with Marvel before I learned about manga. Comics like Marvel are too serious and bloody now for my taste now. I remember it being all in color lol which totally differs from manga being in black and white. I personally prefer manga.

    Tue 2007/06/19 19:34:07 JST (ID #92006)
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  • syrix
    syrix in U.S. (Registered on 2007/03/21)
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    I remember growing up with Marvel before I learned about manga. Comics like Marvel are too serious and bloody now for my taste now. I remember it being all in color lol which totally differs from manga being in black and white. I personally prefer manga.

    Tue 2007/06/19 19:34:07 JST (ID #117702)
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  • syrix
    syrix in U.S. (Registered on 2007/03/21)
    student
    http://animesugoi.animeblogger.net/

    I remember growing up with Marvel before I learned about manga. Comics like Marvel are too serious and bloody now for my taste now. I remember it being all in color lol which totally differs from manga being in black and white. I personally prefer manga.

    Tue 2007/06/19 19:34:07 JST (ID #143527)
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  • Kirakun
    Kirakun in Ipoh, Malaysia (Registered on 2007/06/02)
    Auditor

    I was younger, comics are just comics... I didn't realize the difference with Manga, Marvel and such. However, I have always been reading Manga (translated to local language). Like Conan, DBZ and Doraemon HAHAHA.

    Tue 2007/06/19 19:34:37 JST (ID #50003)
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  • Kirakun
    Kirakun in Ipoh, Malaysia (Registered on 2007/06/02)
    Auditor

    I was younger, comics are just comics... I didn't realize the difference with Manga, Marvel and such. However, I have always been reading Manga (translated to local language). Like Conan, DBZ and Doraemon HAHAHA.

    Tue 2007/06/19 19:34:37 JST (ID #92007)
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  • Kirakun
    Kirakun in Ipoh, Malaysia (Registered on 2007/06/02)
    Auditor

    I was younger, comics are just comics... I didn't realize the difference with Manga, Marvel and such. However, I have always been reading Manga (translated to local language). Like Conan, DBZ and Doraemon HAHAHA.

    Tue 2007/06/19 19:34:37 JST (ID #117703)
    reply to Kirakun's comment
  • Kirakun
    Kirakun in Ipoh, Malaysia (Registered on 2007/06/02)
    Auditor

    I was younger, comics are just comics... I didn't realize the difference with Manga, Marvel and such. However, I have always been reading Manga (translated to local language). Like Conan, DBZ and Doraemon HAHAHA.

    Tue 2007/06/19 19:34:37 JST (ID #143528)
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  • akaugly
    akaugly in The Firehouse, 2nd floor (Registered on 2007/03/30)
    Self-employed
    http://sparechangeanyone.wordpress.com/

    Haven't picked up an American comic since I was in elementary school.

    I prefer the artwork in manga. Simple as that :)

    Tue 2007/06/19 19:35:51 JST (ID #50004)
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  • akaugly
    akaugly in The Firehouse, 2nd floor (Registered on 2007/03/30)
    Self-employed
    http://sparechangeanyone.wordpress.com/

    Haven't picked up an American comic since I was in elementary school.

    I prefer the artwork in manga. Simple as that :)

    Tue 2007/06/19 19:35:51 JST (ID #92008)
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  • akaugly
    akaugly in The Firehouse, 2nd floor (Registered on 2007/03/30)
    Self-employed
    http://sparechangeanyone.wordpress.com/

    Haven't picked up an American comic since I was in elementary school.

    I prefer the artwork in manga. Simple as that :)

    Tue 2007/06/19 19:35:51 JST (ID #117704)
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  • akaugly
    akaugly in The Firehouse, 2nd floor (Registered on 2007/03/30)
    Self-employed
    http://sparechangeanyone.wordpress.com/

    Haven't picked up an American comic since I was in elementary school.

    I prefer the artwork in manga. Simple as that :)

    Tue 2007/06/19 19:35:51 JST (ID #143529)
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  • thegeek
    thegeek in Northern California, United States (Registered on 2007/03/26)
    Geek Liaison
    http://www.thegeekreview.com

    I was a Marvel Zombie in the late 80's early 90's. Then I discovered manga well translated manga anyway. I was a big Ranma fan and was very surprised when Viz started translating it. The translated magna helped fill in some of the blank spots that I had from watching the unsubtitled episodes while have very little understanding of the Japanese language.

    Tue 2007/06/19 19:36:56 JST (ID #50006)
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  • thegeek
    thegeek in Northern California, United States (Registered on 2007/03/26)
    Geek Liaison
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    I was a Marvel Zombie in the late 80's early 90's. Then I discovered manga well translated manga anyway. I was a big Ranma fan and was very surprised when Viz started translating it. The translated magna helped fill in some of the blank spots that I had from watching the unsubtitled episodes while have very little understanding of the Japanese language.

    Tue 2007/06/19 19:36:56 JST (ID #92010)
    reply to thegeek's comment
  • thegeek
    thegeek in Northern California, United States (Registered on 2007/03/26)
    Geek Liaison
    http://www.thegeekreview.com

    I was a Marvel Zombie in the late 80's early 90's. Then I discovered manga well translated manga anyway. I was a big Ranma fan and was very surprised when Viz started translating it. The translated magna helped fill in some of the blank spots that I had from watching the unsubtitled episodes while have very little understanding of the Japanese language.

    Tue 2007/06/19 19:36:56 JST (ID #117706)
    reply to thegeek's comment
  • thegeek
    thegeek in Northern California, United States (Registered on 2007/03/26)
    Geek Liaison
    http://www.thegeekreview.com

    I was a Marvel Zombie in the late 80's early 90's. Then I discovered manga well translated manga anyway. I was a big Ranma fan and was very surprised when Viz started translating it. The translated magna helped fill in some of the blank spots that I had from watching the unsubtitled episodes while have very little understanding of the Japanese language.

    Tue 2007/06/19 19:36:56 JST (ID #143531)
    reply to thegeek's comment
  • farmboy2010
    farmboy2010 in a Refrigerator Box, USA (Registered on 2007/02/19)
    Super Mursing Student

    Cerrtainly, both media are very entertaining and both are representative of their respective cultures of origin. Each shows the themes relevant of the time AND place they are from. The Spiderman of the 70's is definitely not the same Spidey of the early 21st Century, and likewise with manga (Sorry, I couldn't come up with a Japanese example...).

    That said, I enjoy manga immensely, haha...

    Tue 2007/06/19 19:37:03 JST (ID #50007)
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  • farmboy2010
    farmboy2010 in a Refrigerator Box, USA (Registered on 2007/02/19)
    Super Mursing Student

    Cerrtainly, both media are very entertaining and both are representative of their respective cultures of origin. Each shows the themes relevant of the time AND place they are from. The Spiderman of the 70's is definitely not the same Spidey of the early 21st Century, and likewise with manga (Sorry, I couldn't come up with a Japanese example...).

    That said, I enjoy manga immensely, haha...

    Tue 2007/06/19 19:37:03 JST (ID #92011)
    reply to farmboy2010's comment
  • farmboy2010
    farmboy2010 in a Refrigerator Box, USA (Registered on 2007/02/19)
    Super Mursing Student

    Cerrtainly, both media are very entertaining and both are representative of their respective cultures of origin. Each shows the themes relevant of the time AND place they are from. The Spiderman of the 70's is definitely not the same Spidey of the early 21st Century, and likewise with manga (Sorry, I couldn't come up with a Japanese example...).

    That said, I enjoy manga immensely, haha...

    Tue 2007/06/19 19:37:03 JST (ID #117707)
    reply to farmboy2010's comment
  • farmboy2010
    farmboy2010 in a Refrigerator Box, USA (Registered on 2007/02/19)
    Super Mursing Student

    Cerrtainly, both media are very entertaining and both are representative of their respective cultures of origin. Each shows the themes relevant of the time AND place they are from. The Spiderman of the 70's is definitely not the same Spidey of the early 21st Century, and likewise with manga (Sorry, I couldn't come up with a Japanese example...).

    That said, I enjoy manga immensely, haha...

    Tue 2007/06/19 19:37:03 JST (ID #143532)
    reply to farmboy2010's comment
  • BeLe
    BeLe in Davao, Philippines (Registered on 2007/01/03)
    .NET/Web Developer
    http://scrumptious.animeblogger.net

    I really like both manga and marvel comics. That said, I can't compare both coz they're different in so many ways.

    It's hard to choose between the two but if I had to I'd choose manga. The sole reason probably would be marvel comics just doesn't seem to end. Example, I'd like to see them put an end to the spider-man saga, or x-men. But I doubt seeing that in my life time. They did put an end to Captain America though. Most manga on the other hand finishes after several volumes.

    Tue 2007/06/19 20:00:07 JST (ID #50008)
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  • BeLe
    BeLe in Davao, Philippines (Registered on 2007/01/03)
    .NET/Web Developer
    http://scrumptious.animeblogger.net

    I really like both manga and marvel comics. That said, I can't compare both coz they're different in so many ways.

    It's hard to choose between the two but if I had to I'd choose manga. The sole reason probably would be marvel comics just doesn't seem to end. Example, I'd like to see them put an end to the spider-man saga, or x-men. But I doubt seeing that in my life time. They did put an end to Captain America though. Most manga on the other hand finishes after several volumes.

    Tue 2007/06/19 20:00:07 JST (ID #92012)
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  • BeLe
    BeLe in Davao, Philippines (Registered on 2007/01/03)
    .NET/Web Developer
    http://scrumptious.animeblogger.net

    I really like both manga and marvel comics. That said, I can't compare both coz they're different in so many ways.

    It's hard to choose between the two but if I had to I'd choose manga. The sole reason probably would be marvel comics just doesn't seem to end. Example, I'd like to see them put an end to the spider-man saga, or x-men. But I doubt seeing that in my life time. They did put an end to Captain America though. Most manga on the other hand finishes after several volumes.

    Tue 2007/06/19 20:00:07 JST (ID #117708)
    reply to BeLe's comment
  • BeLe
    BeLe in Davao, Philippines (Registered on 2007/01/03)
    .NET/Web Developer
    http://scrumptious.animeblogger.net

    I really like both manga and marvel comics. That said, I can't compare both coz they're different in so many ways.

    It's hard to choose between the two but if I had to I'd choose manga. The sole reason probably would be marvel comics just doesn't seem to end. Example, I'd like to see them put an end to the spider-man saga, or x-men. But I doubt seeing that in my life time. They did put an end to Captain America though. Most manga on the other hand finishes after several volumes.

    Tue 2007/06/19 20:00:07 JST (ID #143533)
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  • Subaruhess
    Subaruhess in UK (Registered on 2006/12/24)
    http://www.flickr.com/photos/43628186@N00/

    I've never actually seen what proper manga looked like till I got hold of the powerd natsumi keroro box figuration which I enjoyed. The only thing I dislike about manga is that its printed in black&white. I have to ask danny; is manga printed on glossy magazine type paper, or that cheapo newpaper type material?

    Tue 2007/06/19 20:07:43 JST (ID #50009)
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  • Subaruhess
    Subaruhess in UK (Registered on 2006/12/24)
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    I've never actually seen what proper manga looked like till I got hold of the powerd natsumi keroro box figuration which I enjoyed. The only thing I dislike about manga is that its printed in black&white. I have to ask danny; is manga printed on glossy magazine type paper, or that cheapo newpaper type material?

    Tue 2007/06/19 20:07:43 JST (ID #92013)
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  • Subaruhess
    Subaruhess in UK (Registered on 2006/12/24)
    http://www.flickr.com/photos/43628186@N00/

    I've never actually seen what proper manga looked like till I got hold of the powerd natsumi keroro box figuration which I enjoyed. The only thing I dislike about manga is that its printed in black&white. I have to ask danny; is manga printed on glossy magazine type paper, or that cheapo newpaper type material?

    Tue 2007/06/19 20:07:43 JST (ID #117709)
    reply to Subaruhess's comment
  • Subaruhess
    Subaruhess in UK (Registered on 2006/12/24)
    http://www.flickr.com/photos/43628186@N00/

    I've never actually seen what proper manga looked like till I got hold of the powerd natsumi keroro box figuration which I enjoyed. The only thing I dislike about manga is that its printed in black&white. I have to ask danny; is manga printed on glossy magazine type paper, or that cheapo newpaper type material?

    Tue 2007/06/19 20:07:43 JST (ID #143534)
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  • Totali
    Totali in Tennessee USA (Registered on 2007/05/07)
    student - digital media
    http://subculture.animeblogger.net/

    I think the winner will be obvious considering your audience ;). I do have quite a few Spiderman comic books though.

    Tue 2007/06/19 20:13:52 JST (ID #50010)
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  • Totali
    Totali in Tennessee USA (Registered on 2007/05/07)
    student - digital media
    http://subculture.animeblogger.net/

    I think the winner will be obvious considering your audience ;). I do have quite a few Spiderman comic books though.

    Tue 2007/06/19 20:13:52 JST (ID #92014)
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  • Totali
    Totali in Tennessee USA (Registered on 2007/05/07)
    student - digital media
    http://subculture.animeblogger.net/

    I think the winner will be obvious considering your audience ;). I do have quite a few Spiderman comic books though.

    Tue 2007/06/19 20:13:52 JST (ID #117710)
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  • Totali
    Totali in Tennessee USA (Registered on 2007/05/07)
    student - digital media
    http://subculture.animeblogger.net/

    I think the winner will be obvious considering your audience ;). I do have quite a few Spiderman comic books though.

    Tue 2007/06/19 20:13:52 JST (ID #143535)
    reply to Totali's comment
  • kintaro
    kintaro in Pineville North Carolina (Registered on 2007/04/24)
    Student
    http://ordinarybot.wordpress.com/

    I love both manga and american comics, but I generally feel more comfortable reading manga because the art is usually done by the same guy. As for American comics it's common to have artists switch left and right. Also it's easier to obtain manga here than a specific issue of Marvel / DC etc.

    I enjoy the variation of stories of both, a lot more mangas deal with teenagers my age etc etc, and american comics often deal with older characters. (I know there are plenty of exceptions but still.) I find switching between the two quite healthy, since the styles are usually drastically different. But... my vote goes to manga, they take up most of my shelfspace!

    Tue 2007/06/19 20:37:37 JST (ID #50012)
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  • kintaro
    kintaro in Pineville North Carolina (Registered on 2007/04/24)
    Student
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    I love both manga and american comics, but I generally feel more comfortable reading manga because the art is usually done by the same guy. As for American comics it's common to have artists switch left and right. Also it's easier to obtain manga here than a specific issue of Marvel / DC etc.

    I enjoy the variation of stories of both, a lot more mangas deal with teenagers my age etc etc, and american comics often deal with older characters. (I know there are plenty of exceptions but still.) I find switching between the two quite healthy, since the styles are usually drastically different. But... my vote goes to manga, they take up most of my shelfspace!

    Tue 2007/06/19 20:37:37 JST (ID #92016)
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  • kintaro
    kintaro in Pineville North Carolina (Registered on 2007/04/24)
    Student
    http://ordinarybot.wordpress.com/

    I love both manga and american comics, but I generally feel more comfortable reading manga because the art is usually done by the same guy. As for American comics it's common to have artists switch left and right. Also it's easier to obtain manga here than a specific issue of Marvel / DC etc.

    I enjoy the variation of stories of both, a lot more mangas deal with teenagers my age etc etc, and american comics often deal with older characters. (I know there are plenty of exceptions but still.) I find switching between the two quite healthy, since the styles are usually drastically different. But... my vote goes to manga, they take up most of my shelfspace!

    Tue 2007/06/19 20:37:37 JST (ID #117712)
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  • kintaro
    kintaro in Pineville North Carolina (Registered on 2007/04/24)
    Student
    http://ordinarybot.wordpress.com/

    I love both manga and american comics, but I generally feel more comfortable reading manga because the art is usually done by the same guy. As for American comics it's common to have artists switch left and right. Also it's easier to obtain manga here than a specific issue of Marvel / DC etc.

    I enjoy the variation of stories of both, a lot more mangas deal with teenagers my age etc etc, and american comics often deal with older characters. (I know there are plenty of exceptions but still.) I find switching between the two quite healthy, since the styles are usually drastically different. But... my vote goes to manga, they take up most of my shelfspace!

    Tue 2007/06/19 20:37:37 JST (ID #143537)
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  • Edward
    Edward in SE Michigan/Osaka (Registered on 2006/12/24)
    Troubleshooter, Universal Exports
    http://funkyblueame.tumblr.com/

    Hey gang, I just remember reading this before I stated work this morning. Marvel will start producing there own movies. According to the New York Times, marvel made $62 million USD on Spidey 1 and 2. What do you think of Edward Norton as Bruce Banner and Robert Downey, Jr. as Tony Stark?

    Tue 2007/06/19 20:51:00 JST (ID #50015)
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  • Edward
    Edward in SE Michigan/Osaka (Registered on 2006/12/24)
    Troubleshooter, Universal Exports
    http://funkyblueame.tumblr.com/

    Hey gang, I just remember reading this before I stated work this morning. Marvel will start producing there own movies. According to the New York Times, marvel made $62 million USD on Spidey 1 and 2. What do you think of Edward Norton as Bruce Banner and Robert Downey, Jr. as Tony Stark?

    Tue 2007/06/19 20:51:00 JST (ID #92019)
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  • Edward
    Edward in SE Michigan/Osaka (Registered on 2006/12/24)
    Troubleshooter, Universal Exports
    http://funkyblueame.tumblr.com/

    Hey gang, I just remember reading this before I stated work this morning. Marvel will start producing there own movies. According to the New York Times, marvel made $62 million USD on Spidey 1 and 2. What do you think of Edward Norton as Bruce Banner and Robert Downey, Jr. as Tony Stark?

    Tue 2007/06/19 20:51:00 JST (ID #117715)
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  • Edward
    Edward in SE Michigan/Osaka (Registered on 2006/12/24)
    Troubleshooter, Universal Exports
    http://funkyblueame.tumblr.com/

    Hey gang, I just remember reading this before I stated work this morning. Marvel will start producing there own movies. According to the New York Times, marvel made $62 million USD on Spidey 1 and 2. What do you think of Edward Norton as Bruce Banner and Robert Downey, Jr. as Tony Stark?

    Tue 2007/06/19 20:51:00 JST (ID #143540)
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  • Zer0
    Zer0 in Singapore (Registered on 2007/01/11)
    Keyboard Warrior
    http://textfiend.net/zerohero

    In terms of art and story, Marvel still can't beat UK's 2000AD (DC managed to attract quite a fair bit of British comic scribes and artists).

    There was once when Marvel tried breaking into the UK market, with titles such as Death's Head, Dragon Claws and Pendragon. Some of the talents were poached from the 2000AD alumni.

    There's also a UK version of Transformers. Although the art sucked, the story is far more interesting. In fact, Marvel UK also did a comic adaptation of Zoids (i think its hard to find these vintage comic weeklies now). Too bad the venture didn't last.

    Tue 2007/06/19 21:11:26 JST (ID #50017)
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  • Zer0
    Zer0 in Singapore (Registered on 2007/01/11)
    Keyboard Warrior
    http://textfiend.net/zerohero

    In terms of art and story, Marvel still can't beat UK's 2000AD (DC managed to attract quite a fair bit of British comic scribes and artists).

    There was once when Marvel tried breaking into the UK market, with titles such as Death's Head, Dragon Claws and Pendragon. Some of the talents were poached from the 2000AD alumni.

    There's also a UK version of Transformers. Although the art sucked, the story is far more interesting. In fact, Marvel UK also did a comic adaptation of Zoids (i think its hard to find these vintage comic weeklies now). Too bad the venture didn't last.

    Tue 2007/06/19 21:11:26 JST (ID #92021)
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  • Zer0
    Zer0 in Singapore (Registered on 2007/01/11)
    Keyboard Warrior
    http://textfiend.net/zerohero

    In terms of art and story, Marvel still can't beat UK's 2000AD (DC managed to attract quite a fair bit of British comic scribes and artists).

    There was once when Marvel tried breaking into the UK market, with titles such as Death's Head, Dragon Claws and Pendragon. Some of the talents were poached from the 2000AD alumni.

    There's also a UK version of Transformers. Although the art sucked, the story is far more interesting. In fact, Marvel UK also did a comic adaptation of Zoids (i think its hard to find these vintage comic weeklies now). Too bad the venture didn't last.

    Tue 2007/06/19 21:11:26 JST (ID #117717)
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  • Zer0
    Zer0 in Singapore (Registered on 2007/01/11)
    Keyboard Warrior
    http://textfiend.net/zerohero

    In terms of art and story, Marvel still can't beat UK's 2000AD (DC managed to attract quite a fair bit of British comic scribes and artists).

    There was once when Marvel tried breaking into the UK market, with titles such as Death's Head, Dragon Claws and Pendragon. Some of the talents were poached from the 2000AD alumni.

    There's also a UK version of Transformers. Although the art sucked, the story is far more interesting. In fact, Marvel UK also did a comic adaptation of Zoids (i think its hard to find these vintage comic weeklies now). Too bad the venture didn't last.

    Tue 2007/06/19 21:11:26 JST (ID #143542)
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  • Henry
    Henry in /usr/bin/ (Registered on 2006/12/25)
    anime/cosplay events organizer
    http://www.cosplay.ph

    personally, i prefer manga over any western comics anyday ^^

    imho, western comics are more straight forward and has a lot of action and (correct me if i'm worng) doesn't always deal with the human heart...

    manga on the other hand deals with the human heart and emotions thus somehow connecting with the reader...

    for me, manga is superior in terms of story and plot and character development ^^

    Tue 2007/06/19 22:16:08 JST (ID #50023)
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  • Henry
    Henry in /usr/bin/ (Registered on 2006/12/25)
    anime/cosplay events organizer
    http://www.cosplay.ph

    personally, i prefer manga over any western comics anyday ^^

    imho, western comics are more straight forward and has a lot of action and (correct me if i'm worng) doesn't always deal with the human heart...

    manga on the other hand deals with the human heart and emotions thus somehow connecting with the reader...

    for me, manga is superior in terms of story and plot and character development ^^

    Tue 2007/06/19 22:16:08 JST (ID #92027)
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  • Henry
    Henry in /usr/bin/ (Registered on 2006/12/25)
    anime/cosplay events organizer
    http://www.cosplay.ph

    personally, i prefer manga over any western comics anyday ^^

    imho, western comics are more straight forward and has a lot of action and (correct me if i'm worng) doesn't always deal with the human heart...

    manga on the other hand deals with the human heart and emotions thus somehow connecting with the reader...

    for me, manga is superior in terms of story and plot and character development ^^

    Tue 2007/06/19 22:16:08 JST (ID #117723)
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  • Henry
    Henry in /usr/bin/ (Registered on 2006/12/25)
    anime/cosplay events organizer
    http://www.cosplay.ph

    personally, i prefer manga over any western comics anyday ^^

    imho, western comics are more straight forward and has a lot of action and (correct me if i'm worng) doesn't always deal with the human heart...

    manga on the other hand deals with the human heart and emotions thus somehow connecting with the reader...

    for me, manga is superior in terms of story and plot and character development ^^

    Tue 2007/06/19 22:16:08 JST (ID #143548)
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  • BobbyKyn
    BobbyKyn in Fukui - Japan, But I'm from Down Under (Registered on 2007/06/19)
    SuperVillian
    http://www.xanga.com/bobbykyn

    I say both Manga and Marvel (Comics) are fantastic in their own respects. I have a decent collection of both, but I guess when you come down to the specifics, like Gundam, for example, Marvel doesn't really compare. So...

    Manga am teh win! (But Marvel's cool too)

    Tue 2007/06/19 22:27:03 JST (ID #50024)
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  • BobbyKyn
    BobbyKyn in Fukui - Japan, But I'm from Down Under (Registered on 2007/06/19)
    SuperVillian
    http://www.xanga.com/bobbykyn

    I say both Manga and Marvel (Comics) are fantastic in their own respects. I have a decent collection of both, but I guess when you come down to the specifics, like Gundam, for example, Marvel doesn't really compare. So...

    Manga am teh win! (But Marvel's cool too)

    Tue 2007/06/19 22:27:03 JST (ID #92028)
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  • BobbyKyn
    BobbyKyn in Fukui - Japan, But I'm from Down Under (Registered on 2007/06/19)
    SuperVillian
    http://www.xanga.com/bobbykyn

    I say both Manga and Marvel (Comics) are fantastic in their own respects. I have a decent collection of both, but I guess when you come down to the specifics, like Gundam, for example, Marvel doesn't really compare. So...

    Manga am teh win! (But Marvel's cool too)

    Tue 2007/06/19 22:27:03 JST (ID #117724)
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  • BobbyKyn
    BobbyKyn in Fukui - Japan, But I'm from Down Under (Registered on 2007/06/19)
    SuperVillian
    http://www.xanga.com/bobbykyn

    I say both Manga and Marvel (Comics) are fantastic in their own respects. I have a decent collection of both, but I guess when you come down to the specifics, like Gundam, for example, Marvel doesn't really compare. So...

    Manga am teh win! (But Marvel's cool too)

    Tue 2007/06/19 22:27:03 JST (ID #143549)
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  • toxicmind
    toxicmind in SF, USA (Registered on 2007/02/06)
    cg artist

    Mangaaaaa~!!! Even comparing all types of American comics, I still love manga more.

    I had a chance to study about comic books in my college, and I felt they are pre-much all about heroes. There are not many genre.

    Manga has so many differnt genre. Sci-fi, medical, law, sports, games, etc.

    One more thing, American comic books uses handwriting and sometimes it's kinda hard to read.....

    Tue 2007/06/19 22:48:47 JST (ID #50025)
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  • toxicmind
    toxicmind in SF, USA (Registered on 2007/02/06)
    cg artist

    Mangaaaaa~!!! Even comparing all types of American comics, I still love manga more.

    I had a chance to study about comic books in my college, and I felt they are pre-much all about heroes. There are not many genre.

    Manga has so many differnt genre. Sci-fi, medical, law, sports, games, etc.

    One more thing, American comic books uses handwriting and sometimes it's kinda hard to read.....

    Tue 2007/06/19 22:48:47 JST (ID #92029)
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  • toxicmind
    toxicmind in SF, USA (Registered on 2007/02/06)
    cg artist

    Mangaaaaa~!!! Even comparing all types of American comics, I still love manga more.

    I had a chance to study about comic books in my college, and I felt they are pre-much all about heroes. There are not many genre.

    Manga has so many differnt genre. Sci-fi, medical, law, sports, games, etc.

    One more thing, American comic books uses handwriting and sometimes it's kinda hard to read.....

    Tue 2007/06/19 22:48:47 JST (ID #117725)
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  • toxicmind
    toxicmind in SF, USA (Registered on 2007/02/06)
    cg artist

    Mangaaaaa~!!! Even comparing all types of American comics, I still love manga more.

    I had a chance to study about comic books in my college, and I felt they are pre-much all about heroes. There are not many genre.

    Manga has so many differnt genre. Sci-fi, medical, law, sports, games, etc.

    One more thing, American comic books uses handwriting and sometimes it's kinda hard to read.....

    Tue 2007/06/19 22:48:47 JST (ID #143550)
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  • Otaku Blue
    Otaku Blue in London (Registered on 2007/05/12)
    Student
    http://www.otakublue.wordpress.com

    Manga is the best art form on this earth and will never be beaten. I find it easier to get really into a manga story and manga characters are more interesting an loveable. With marvel i just cant get into the story as they all seem to follow the same formula.The Marvel films are ace though...just not the original comics imo.

    Tue 2007/06/19 23:26:03 JST (ID #50027)
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  • Otaku Blue
    Otaku Blue in London (Registered on 2007/05/12)
    Student
    http://www.otakublue.wordpress.com

    Manga is the best art form on this earth and will never be beaten. I find it easier to get really into a manga story and manga characters are more interesting an loveable. With marvel i just cant get into the story as they all seem to follow the same formula.The Marvel films are ace though...just not the original comics imo.

    Tue 2007/06/19 23:26:03 JST (ID #92031)
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  • Otaku Blue
    Otaku Blue in London (Registered on 2007/05/12)
    Student
    http://www.otakublue.wordpress.com

    Manga is the best art form on this earth and will never be beaten. I find it easier to get really into a manga story and manga characters are more interesting an loveable. With marvel i just cant get into the story as they all seem to follow the same formula.The Marvel films are ace though...just not the original comics imo.

    Tue 2007/06/19 23:26:03 JST (ID #117727)
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  • Otaku Blue
    Otaku Blue in London (Registered on 2007/05/12)
    Student
    http://www.otakublue.wordpress.com

    Manga is the best art form on this earth and will never be beaten. I find it easier to get really into a manga story and manga characters are more interesting an loveable. With marvel i just cant get into the story as they all seem to follow the same formula.The Marvel films are ace though...just not the original comics imo.

    Tue 2007/06/19 23:26:03 JST (ID #143552)
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  • OmegaZ33
    OmegaZ33 in Australia (Registered on 2007/06/19)
    Student and Digital Racer
    http://omegaz33tsp.wordpress.com/

    I preffer manga rather than DC.
    Because the story of DC comic is too linear to me.
    Also the theme of DC comic always about heroism.
    Unlike manga which have many genre.

    Tue 2007/06/19 23:45:07 JST (ID #50028)
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  • OmegaZ33
    OmegaZ33 in Australia (Registered on 2007/06/19)
    Student and Digital Racer
    http://omegaz33tsp.wordpress.com/

    I preffer manga rather than DC.
    Because the story of DC comic is too linear to me.
    Also the theme of DC comic always about heroism.
    Unlike manga which have many genre.

    Tue 2007/06/19 23:45:07 JST (ID #92032)
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  • OmegaZ33
    OmegaZ33 in Australia (Registered on 2007/06/19)
    Student and Digital Racer
    http://omegaz33tsp.wordpress.com/

    I preffer manga rather than DC.
    Because the story of DC comic is too linear to me.
    Also the theme of DC comic always about heroism.
    Unlike manga which have many genre.

    Tue 2007/06/19 23:45:07 JST (ID #117728)
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  • OmegaZ33
    OmegaZ33 in Australia (Registered on 2007/06/19)
    Student and Digital Racer
    http://omegaz33tsp.wordpress.com/

    I preffer manga rather than DC.
    Because the story of DC comic is too linear to me.
    Also the theme of DC comic always about heroism.
    Unlike manga which have many genre.

    Tue 2007/06/19 23:45:07 JST (ID #143553)
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  • kca
    kca in Hanoi (Registered on 2007/02/10)
    Bouty hunter
    http://khongcoai.com/

    Hey guys, you really need to give the respect to Marvel.

    Wed 2007/06/20 00:04:52 JST (ID #50030)
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  • kca
    kca in Hanoi (Registered on 2007/02/10)
    Bouty hunter
    http://khongcoai.com/

    Hey guys, you really need to give the respect to Marvel.

    Wed 2007/06/20 00:04:52 JST (ID #92034)
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  • kca
    kca in Hanoi (Registered on 2007/02/10)
    Bouty hunter
    http://khongcoai.com/

    Hey guys, you really need to give the respect to Marvel.

    Wed 2007/06/20 00:04:52 JST (ID #117730)
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  • kca
    kca in Hanoi (Registered on 2007/02/10)
    Bouty hunter
    http://khongcoai.com/

    Hey guys, you really need to give the respect to Marvel.

    Wed 2007/06/20 00:04:52 JST (ID #143555)
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  • Tov
    Tov in NLs (Registered on 2007/05/30)
    Student, Gamer, Coder

    Marvel is ok, but come on..
    What's this for a question..
    manga ^^

    Wed 2007/06/20 00:15:07 JST (ID #50031)
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  • Tov
    Tov in NLs (Registered on 2007/05/30)
    Student, Gamer, Coder

    Marvel is ok, but come on..
    What's this for a question..
    manga ^^

    Wed 2007/06/20 00:15:07 JST (ID #92035)
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  • Tov
    Tov in NLs (Registered on 2007/05/30)
    Student, Gamer, Coder

    Marvel is ok, but come on..
    What's this for a question..
    manga ^^

    Wed 2007/06/20 00:15:07 JST (ID #117731)
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  • Tov
    Tov in NLs (Registered on 2007/05/30)
    Student, Gamer, Coder

    Marvel is ok, but come on..
    What's this for a question..
    manga ^^

    Wed 2007/06/20 00:15:07 JST (ID #143556)
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  • X-Gear
    X-Gear in his room (Registered on 2007/01/18)
    College student

    Mmm, thats a hard choice. I like both of them equally. Grew up with marvel and picked up manga in high school. I read lil more manga than marvel so i go with manga.
    Come on, this a anime manga cafe.

    Wed 2007/06/20 00:28:14 JST (ID #50032)
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  • X-Gear
    X-Gear in his room (Registered on 2007/01/18)
    College student

    Mmm, thats a hard choice. I like both of them equally. Grew up with marvel and picked up manga in high school. I read lil more manga than marvel so i go with manga.
    Come on, this a anime manga cafe.

    Wed 2007/06/20 00:28:14 JST (ID #92036)
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  • X-Gear
    X-Gear in his room (Registered on 2007/01/18)
    College student

    Mmm, thats a hard choice. I like both of them equally. Grew up with marvel and picked up manga in high school. I read lil more manga than marvel so i go with manga.
    Come on, this a anime manga cafe.

    Wed 2007/06/20 00:28:14 JST (ID #117732)
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  • X-Gear
    X-Gear in his room (Registered on 2007/01/18)
    College student

    Mmm, thats a hard choice. I like both of them equally. Grew up with marvel and picked up manga in high school. I read lil more manga than marvel so i go with manga.
    Come on, this a anime manga cafe.

    Wed 2007/06/20 00:28:14 JST (ID #143557)
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  • Arekusu
    Arekusu in The Lost Woods (Registered on 2006/12/31)
    Video Game Design Student / Monster Hunter

    For me, manga wins hands down, no questions asked. I just far prefer the art style seen in Manga and also, the story lines in manga appeal to me far more. THere is far more variation on manga when it comes to the huge variety of storylines, so manga comes out on top for me ^^

    Wed 2007/06/20 00:37:21 JST (ID #50033)
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  • Arekusu
    Arekusu in The Lost Woods (Registered on 2006/12/31)
    Video Game Design Student / Monster Hunter

    For me, manga wins hands down, no questions asked. I just far prefer the art style seen in Manga and also, the story lines in manga appeal to me far more. THere is far more variation on manga when it comes to the huge variety of storylines, so manga comes out on top for me ^^

    Wed 2007/06/20 00:37:21 JST (ID #92037)
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  • Arekusu
    Arekusu in The Lost Woods (Registered on 2006/12/31)
    Video Game Design Student / Monster Hunter

    For me, manga wins hands down, no questions asked. I just far prefer the art style seen in Manga and also, the story lines in manga appeal to me far more. THere is far more variation on manga when it comes to the huge variety of storylines, so manga comes out on top for me ^^

    Wed 2007/06/20 00:37:21 JST (ID #117733)
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  • Arekusu
    Arekusu in The Lost Woods (Registered on 2006/12/31)
    Video Game Design Student / Monster Hunter

    For me, manga wins hands down, no questions asked. I just far prefer the art style seen in Manga and also, the story lines in manga appeal to me far more. THere is far more variation on manga when it comes to the huge variety of storylines, so manga comes out on top for me ^^

    Wed 2007/06/20 00:37:21 JST (ID #143558)
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  • Mac
    Mac in Podunk, USA (Registered on 2006/12/28)
    IT monkey/consultant

    More recently, there's amazing art on both sides. to me, the real quality difference comes from the story.

    American comics are dominated by superhero franchises. It's really hard to tell a good story when you're trying to keep a franchise alive. Marvel has told its best stories when it shakes up the status quo (the early Spider-Man, or the more recent Civil War story), but how often does that happen? There are independent comics, but they're rare, and the non-super-hero American comic space has yet to reach the level of refinement found elsewhere (generally speaking, of course).

    With manga, though... You get the artist's vision much more often. Sure, a series is often concluded or extended against an artist's wishes (*cough*Dragonball*cough*), but you frequently get to see some one's imagination brought to life, and not what little vision some one could shoehorn into an existing character or universe.

    There are notable exceptions on either side, of course, but the trends are clear.

    Wed 2007/06/20 00:37:51 JST (ID #50034)
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  • Mac
    Mac in Podunk, USA (Registered on 2006/12/28)
    IT monkey/consultant

    More recently, there's amazing art on both sides. to me, the real quality difference comes from the story.

    American comics are dominated by superhero franchises. It's really hard to tell a good story when you're trying to keep a franchise alive. Marvel has told its best stories when it shakes up the status quo (the early Spider-Man, or the more recent Civil War story), but how often does that happen? There are independent comics, but they're rare, and the non-super-hero American comic space has yet to reach the level of refinement found elsewhere (generally speaking, of course).

    With manga, though... You get the artist's vision much more often. Sure, a series is often concluded or extended against an artist's wishes (*cough*Dragonball*cough*), but you frequently get to see some one's imagination brought to life, and not what little vision some one could shoehorn into an existing character or universe.

    There are notable exceptions on either side, of course, but the trends are clear.

    Wed 2007/06/20 00:37:51 JST (ID #92038)
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  • Mac
    Mac in Podunk, USA (Registered on 2006/12/28)
    IT monkey/consultant

    More recently, there's amazing art on both sides. to me, the real quality difference comes from the story.

    American comics are dominated by superhero franchises. It's really hard to tell a good story when you're trying to keep a franchise alive. Marvel has told its best stories when it shakes up the status quo (the early Spider-Man, or the more recent Civil War story), but how often does that happen? There are independent comics, but they're rare, and the non-super-hero American comic space has yet to reach the level of refinement found elsewhere (generally speaking, of course).

    With manga, though... You get the artist's vision much more often. Sure, a series is often concluded or extended against an artist's wishes (*cough*Dragonball*cough*), but you frequently get to see some one's imagination brought to life, and not what little vision some one could shoehorn into an existing character or universe.

    There are notable exceptions on either side, of course, but the trends are clear.

    Wed 2007/06/20 00:37:51 JST (ID #117734)
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  • Mac
    Mac in Podunk, USA (Registered on 2006/12/28)
    IT monkey/consultant

    More recently, there's amazing art on both sides. to me, the real quality difference comes from the story.

    American comics are dominated by superhero franchises. It's really hard to tell a good story when you're trying to keep a franchise alive. Marvel has told its best stories when it shakes up the status quo (the early Spider-Man, or the more recent Civil War story), but how often does that happen? There are independent comics, but they're rare, and the non-super-hero American comic space has yet to reach the level of refinement found elsewhere (generally speaking, of course).

    With manga, though... You get the artist's vision much more often. Sure, a series is often concluded or extended against an artist's wishes (*cough*Dragonball*cough*), but you frequently get to see some one's imagination brought to life, and not what little vision some one could shoehorn into an existing character or universe.

    There are notable exceptions on either side, of course, but the trends are clear.

    Wed 2007/06/20 00:37:51 JST (ID #143559)
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  • Danny Choo
    Danny Choo in Tokyo (Registered on 2006/12/11)
    CEO MIrai Inc
    http://www.dannychoo.com/profile/eng/

    Shade, ThatPrimeGuy,
    Good point. Not too familiar with that territory and thought that Marvel pretty much had the comic market.

    Nemo,
    Google image search was not being friendly to me this morning and thats all I could find ^^;

    Subaruhess,
    Depends. Sometimes toilet paper, sometimes glossy.

    Otaku Surf,
    She was very sweet.

    Wed 2007/06/20 01:17:03 JST (ID #50036)
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  • Danny Choo
    Danny Choo in Tokyo (Registered on 2006/12/11)
    CEO MIrai Inc
    http://www.dannychoo.com/profile/eng/

    Shade, ThatPrimeGuy,
    Good point. Not too familiar with that territory and thought that Marvel pretty much had the comic market.

    Nemo,
    Google image search was not being friendly to me this morning and thats all I could find ^^;

    Subaruhess,
    Depends. Sometimes toilet paper, sometimes glossy.

    Otaku Surf,
    She was very sweet.

    Wed 2007/06/20 01:17:03 JST (ID #92040)
    reply to Danny Choo's comment
  • Danny Choo
    Danny Choo in Tokyo (Registered on 2006/12/11)
    CEO MIrai Inc
    http://www.dannychoo.com/profile/eng/

    Shade, ThatPrimeGuy,
    Good point. Not too familiar with that territory and thought that Marvel pretty much had the comic market.

    Nemo,
    Google image search was not being friendly to me this morning and thats all I could find ^^;

    Subaruhess,
    Depends. Sometimes toilet paper, sometimes glossy.

    Otaku Surf,
    She was very sweet.

    Wed 2007/06/20 01:17:03 JST (ID #117736)
    reply to Danny Choo's comment
  • Danny Choo
    Danny Choo in Tokyo (Registered on 2006/12/11)
    CEO MIrai Inc
    http://www.dannychoo.com/profile/eng/

    Shade, ThatPrimeGuy,
    Good point. Not too familiar with that territory and thought that Marvel pretty much had the comic market.

    Nemo,
    Google image search was not being friendly to me this morning and thats all I could find ^^;

    Subaruhess,
    Depends. Sometimes toilet paper, sometimes glossy.

    Otaku Surf,
    She was very sweet.

    Wed 2007/06/20 01:17:03 JST (ID #143561)
    reply to Danny Choo's comment
  • Phillia
    Phillia in The Netherlands (Registered on 2007/06/13)
    Student

    Manga is less predictable. the stories in manga differ alot in comparison to Marvel comics.
    Manga in my opinion is clearly better

    Wed 2007/06/20 02:50:49 JST (ID #50042)
    reply to Phillia's comment
  • Phillia
    Phillia in The Netherlands (Registered on 2007/06/13)
    Student

    Manga is less predictable. the stories in manga differ alot in comparison to Marvel comics.
    Manga in my opinion is clearly better

    Wed 2007/06/20 02:50:49 JST (ID #92046)
    reply to Phillia's comment
  • Phillia
    Phillia in The Netherlands (Registered on 2007/06/13)
    Student

    Manga is less predictable. the stories in manga differ alot in comparison to Marvel comics.
    Manga in my opinion is clearly better

    Wed 2007/06/20 02:50:49 JST (ID #117742)
    reply to Phillia's comment
  • Phillia
    Phillia in The Netherlands (Registered on 2007/06/13)
    Student

    Manga is less predictable. the stories in manga differ alot in comparison to Marvel comics.
    Manga in my opinion is clearly better

    Wed 2007/06/20 02:50:49 JST (ID #143567)
    reply to Phillia's comment
  • Perplexus
    Perplexus in England (Registered on 2007/04/27)
    Film Student
    http://twitter.com/Zetsubou_Robert

    I originally started reading marvel comics, but when I got to manga I slowly lost interest in marvel. Now I just stick to manga, I enjoy it so much more because of the art, the differing plot lines and the Japanese cultural aspect.

    Wed 2007/06/20 03:08:56 JST (ID #50043)
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  • Perplexus
    Perplexus in England (Registered on 2007/04/27)
    Film Student
    http://twitter.com/Zetsubou_Robert

    I originally started reading marvel comics, but when I got to manga I slowly lost interest in marvel. Now I just stick to manga, I enjoy it so much more because of the art, the differing plot lines and the Japanese cultural aspect.

    Wed 2007/06/20 03:08:56 JST (ID #92047)
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  • Perplexus
    Perplexus in England (Registered on 2007/04/27)
    Film Student
    http://twitter.com/Zetsubou_Robert

    I originally started reading marvel comics, but when I got to manga I slowly lost interest in marvel. Now I just stick to manga, I enjoy it so much more because of the art, the differing plot lines and the Japanese cultural aspect.

    Wed 2007/06/20 03:08:56 JST (ID #117743)
    reply to Perplexus's comment
  • Perplexus
    Perplexus in England (Registered on 2007/04/27)
    Film Student
    http://twitter.com/Zetsubou_Robert

    I originally started reading marvel comics, but when I got to manga I slowly lost interest in marvel. Now I just stick to manga, I enjoy it so much more because of the art, the differing plot lines and the Japanese cultural aspect.

    Wed 2007/06/20 03:08:56 JST (ID #143568)
    reply to Perplexus's comment
  • Cyberdelics
    Cyberdelics in Rome, Italy (Registered on 2007/02/07)
    Information technology
    http://www.cyberdelics80.blogspot.com/

    Manga!!! Only Manga, forever Manga! *_* *_* *_*

    Wed 2007/06/20 03:10:03 JST (ID #50044)
    reply to Cyberdelics's comment
  • Cyberdelics
    Cyberdelics in Rome, Italy (Registered on 2007/02/07)
    Information technology
    http://www.cyberdelics80.blogspot.com/

    Manga!!! Only Manga, forever Manga! *_* *_* *_*

    Wed 2007/06/20 03:10:03 JST (ID #92048)
    reply to Cyberdelics's comment
  • Cyberdelics
    Cyberdelics in Rome, Italy (Registered on 2007/02/07)
    Information technology
    http://www.cyberdelics80.blogspot.com/

    Manga!!! Only Manga, forever Manga! *_* *_* *_*

    Wed 2007/06/20 03:10:03 JST (ID #117744)
    reply to Cyberdelics's comment
  • Cyberdelics
    Cyberdelics in Rome, Italy (Registered on 2007/02/07)
    Information technology
    http://www.cyberdelics80.blogspot.com/

    Manga!!! Only Manga, forever Manga! *_* *_* *_*

    Wed 2007/06/20 03:10:03 JST (ID #143569)
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  • MonkeyKombat
    MonkeyKombat in Dubai,UAE (Registered on 2007/01/31)
    Sales Executive & Eternal Geek/Otaku
    http://www.myspace.com/han_shot_first1

    Am not Marvel comics,however am really into DC/Vertigo as well as Manga.

    Green Arrow is the greatest comic character of all time. Well to me anyway.

    Wed 2007/06/20 03:13:36 JST (ID #50045)
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  • MonkeyKombat
    MonkeyKombat in Dubai,UAE (Registered on 2007/01/31)
    Sales Executive & Eternal Geek/Otaku
    http://www.myspace.com/han_shot_first1

    Am not Marvel comics,however am really into DC/Vertigo as well as Manga.

    Green Arrow is the greatest comic character of all time. Well to me anyway.

    Wed 2007/06/20 03:13:36 JST (ID #92049)
    reply to MonkeyKombat's comment
  • MonkeyKombat
    MonkeyKombat in Dubai,UAE (Registered on 2007/01/31)
    Sales Executive & Eternal Geek/Otaku
    http://www.myspace.com/han_shot_first1

    Am not Marvel comics,however am really into DC/Vertigo as well as Manga.

    Green Arrow is the greatest comic character of all time. Well to me anyway.

    Wed 2007/06/20 03:13:36 JST (ID #117745)
    reply to MonkeyKombat's comment
  • MonkeyKombat
    MonkeyKombat in Dubai,UAE (Registered on 2007/01/31)
    Sales Executive & Eternal Geek/Otaku
    http://www.myspace.com/han_shot_first1

    Am not Marvel comics,however am really into DC/Vertigo as well as Manga.

    Green Arrow is the greatest comic character of all time. Well to me anyway.

    Wed 2007/06/20 03:13:36 JST (ID #143570)
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  • Cribba
    Cribba (Registered on 2007/01/27)

    I'm more of a Marvel fan I guess, not that I don't enjoy manga it's just that I like comics better.. Right now it's alot of X-Men, many of the titles in the X franchise are good atm.

    One of the things I like more about comics is that they're almost always in color, maybe I'm just having a hard time adjusting to black/white. Though manga's not only superhero stuff, wich is one the many things I like about the format..

    But atm, comics > manga for me :)

    Wed 2007/06/20 04:17:02 JST (ID #50046)
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  • Cribba
    Cribba (Registered on 2007/01/27)

    I'm more of a Marvel fan I guess, not that I don't enjoy manga it's just that I like comics better.. Right now it's alot of X-Men, many of the titles in the X franchise are good atm.

    One of the things I like more about comics is that they're almost always in color, maybe I'm just having a hard time adjusting to black/white. Though manga's not only superhero stuff, wich is one the many things I like about the format..

    But atm, comics > manga for me :)

    Wed 2007/06/20 04:17:02 JST (ID #92050)
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  • Cribba
    Cribba (Registered on 2007/01/27)

    I'm more of a Marvel fan I guess, not that I don't enjoy manga it's just that I like comics better.. Right now it's alot of X-Men, many of the titles in the X franchise are good atm.

    One of the things I like more about comics is that they're almost always in color, maybe I'm just having a hard time adjusting to black/white. Though manga's not only superhero stuff, wich is one the many things I like about the format..

    But atm, comics > manga for me :)

    Wed 2007/06/20 04:17:02 JST (ID #117746)
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  • Cribba
    Cribba (Registered on 2007/01/27)

    I'm more of a Marvel fan I guess, not that I don't enjoy manga it's just that I like comics better.. Right now it's alot of X-Men, many of the titles in the X franchise are good atm.

    One of the things I like more about comics is that they're almost always in color, maybe I'm just having a hard time adjusting to black/white. Though manga's not only superhero stuff, wich is one the many things I like about the format..

    But atm, comics > manga for me :)

    Wed 2007/06/20 04:17:02 JST (ID #143571)
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  • Hayden
    Hayden in London, UK (Registered on 2007/01/06)
    Custom Pc Builder, Muppet, Pyromaniac, Demolitions Expert, Guitar Slinger,
    http://myspace.com/dyingoblivion

    Id say with Marvel....there will always be countless classics for the comic collecting buffs out there in the world & fair enough. for its age the art work looks pretty awesome a lot of effort went into it. you can always see detail in marvel comics.

    With manga - its literally a new age thing i suppose. marvel never evovled where as managa has a lot & has gotten better over the ages because honestly.... japanese do it better! not always but most of the time. great artists. great char concepts etc


    really the only problem I see here is the atrocious american dubbing when it comes to motion pictures.....

    Wed 2007/06/20 05:16:02 JST (ID #50049)
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  • Hayden
    Hayden in London, UK (Registered on 2007/01/06)
    Custom Pc Builder, Muppet, Pyromaniac, Demolitions Expert, Guitar Slinger,
    http://myspace.com/dyingoblivion

    Id say with Marvel....there will always be countless classics for the comic collecting buffs out there in the world & fair enough. for its age the art work looks pretty awesome a lot of effort went into it. you can always see detail in marvel comics.

    With manga - its literally a new age thing i suppose. marvel never evovled where as managa has a lot & has gotten better over the ages because honestly.... japanese do it better! not always but most of the time. great artists. great char concepts etc


    really the only problem I see here is the atrocious american dubbing when it comes to motion pictures.....

    Wed 2007/06/20 05:16:02 JST (ID #92053)
    reply to Hayden's comment
  • Hayden
    Hayden in London, UK (Registered on 2007/01/06)
    Custom Pc Builder, Muppet, Pyromaniac, Demolitions Expert, Guitar Slinger,
    http://myspace.com/dyingoblivion

    Id say with Marvel....there will always be countless classics for the comic collecting buffs out there in the world & fair enough. for its age the art work looks pretty awesome a lot of effort went into it. you can always see detail in marvel comics.

    With manga - its literally a new age thing i suppose. marvel never evovled where as managa has a lot & has gotten better over the ages because honestly.... japanese do it better! not always but most of the time. great artists. great char concepts etc


    really the only problem I see here is the atrocious american dubbing when it comes to motion pictures.....

    Wed 2007/06/20 05:16:02 JST (ID #117749)
    reply to Hayden's comment
  • Hayden
    Hayden in London, UK (Registered on 2007/01/06)
    Custom Pc Builder, Muppet, Pyromaniac, Demolitions Expert, Guitar Slinger,
    http://myspace.com/dyingoblivion

    Id say with Marvel....there will always be countless classics for the comic collecting buffs out there in the world & fair enough. for its age the art work looks pretty awesome a lot of effort went into it. you can always see detail in marvel comics.

    With manga - its literally a new age thing i suppose. marvel never evovled where as managa has a lot & has gotten better over the ages because honestly.... japanese do it better! not always but most of the time. great artists. great char concepts etc


    really the only problem I see here is the atrocious american dubbing when it comes to motion pictures.....

    Wed 2007/06/20 05:16:02 JST (ID #143574)
    reply to Hayden's comment
  • drumben
    drumben in London, UK (Registered on 2007/05/23)
    Student/Frame Runner

    from an art perspective, although marvel are highly detailed and amazing to look at, manga has a more stylised look which adapts itself better to the idea of a comic book. its more like watching a cartoon than watching live action. I think this enables manga to use more poetic licence, eg: nosebleeds, simplified faces for emotions etc.

    Wed 2007/06/20 05:29:36 JST (ID #50050)
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  • drumben
    drumben in London, UK (Registered on 2007/05/23)
    Student/Frame Runner

    from an art perspective, although marvel are highly detailed and amazing to look at, manga has a more stylised look which adapts itself better to the idea of a comic book. its more like watching a cartoon than watching live action. I think this enables manga to use more poetic licence, eg: nosebleeds, simplified faces for emotions etc.

    Wed 2007/06/20 05:29:36 JST (ID #92054)
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  • drumben
    drumben in London, UK (Registered on 2007/05/23)
    Student/Frame Runner

    from an art perspective, although marvel are highly detailed and amazing to look at, manga has a more stylised look which adapts itself better to the idea of a comic book. its more like watching a cartoon than watching live action. I think this enables manga to use more poetic licence, eg: nosebleeds, simplified faces for emotions etc.

    Wed 2007/06/20 05:29:36 JST (ID #117750)
    reply to drumben's comment
  • drumben
    drumben in London, UK (Registered on 2007/05/23)
    Student/Frame Runner

    from an art perspective, although marvel are highly detailed and amazing to look at, manga has a more stylised look which adapts itself better to the idea of a comic book. its more like watching a cartoon than watching live action. I think this enables manga to use more poetic licence, eg: nosebleeds, simplified faces for emotions etc.

    Wed 2007/06/20 05:29:36 JST (ID #143575)
    reply to drumben's comment
  • valho
    valho in Malaysia (Registered on 2007/05/04)
    Graphic Designer
    http://www.valiantho.com/

    I use to read and collect a lot of Marvel Comics, X-men, Spiderman, Daredevil, Capt. America but after a while I kinda lost interest in them. The problem with them is the story can get so confusing with it spanning a few different series. In the end I just gave up reading them. I still got a whole stack of comics that I plan to sell off.

    Now I prefer reading manga, for the art style and the story. Also a story arc won't span a few different series which is good for me and my wallet. The most recent manga I finish reading is Death Note, and currently still collecting Guyver series.

    Wed 2007/06/20 05:39:54 JST (ID #50051)
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  • valho
    valho in Malaysia (Registered on 2007/05/04)
    Graphic Designer
    http://www.valiantho.com/

    I use to read and collect a lot of Marvel Comics, X-men, Spiderman, Daredevil, Capt. America but after a while I kinda lost interest in them. The problem with them is the story can get so confusing with it spanning a few different series. In the end I just gave up reading them. I still got a whole stack of comics that I plan to sell off.

    Now I prefer reading manga, for the art style and the story. Also a story arc won't span a few different series which is good for me and my wallet. The most recent manga I finish reading is Death Note, and currently still collecting Guyver series.

    Wed 2007/06/20 05:39:54 JST (ID #92055)
    reply to valho's comment
  • valho
    valho in Malaysia (Registered on 2007/05/04)
    Graphic Designer
    http://www.valiantho.com/

    I use to read and collect a lot of Marvel Comics, X-men, Spiderman, Daredevil, Capt. America but after a while I kinda lost interest in them. The problem with them is the story can get so confusing with it spanning a few different series. In the end I just gave up reading them. I still got a whole stack of comics that I plan to sell off.

    Now I prefer reading manga, for the art style and the story. Also a story arc won't span a few different series which is good for me and my wallet. The most recent manga I finish reading is Death Note, and currently still collecting Guyver series.

    Wed 2007/06/20 05:39:54 JST (ID #117751)
    reply to valho's comment
  • valho
    valho in Malaysia (Registered on 2007/05/04)
    Graphic Designer
    http://www.valiantho.com/

    I use to read and collect a lot of Marvel Comics, X-men, Spiderman, Daredevil, Capt. America but after a while I kinda lost interest in them. The problem with them is the story can get so confusing with it spanning a few different series. In the end I just gave up reading them. I still got a whole stack of comics that I plan to sell off.

    Now I prefer reading manga, for the art style and the story. Also a story arc won't span a few different series which is good for me and my wallet. The most recent manga I finish reading is Death Note, and currently still collecting Guyver series.

    Wed 2007/06/20 05:39:54 JST (ID #143576)
    reply to valho's comment
  • Ricky
    Ricky in Brisbane, Australia (Registered on 2007/03/28)
    Pharmacist, Accountant to be!
    http://www.rickytang.com.au

    Manga > Marvel anyday except for when Jessica Alba stars in Fantastic Four.

    Wed 2007/06/20 05:49:18 JST (ID #50052)
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  • Ricky
    Ricky in Brisbane, Australia (Registered on 2007/03/28)
    Pharmacist, Accountant to be!
    http://www.rickytang.com.au

    Manga > Marvel anyday except for when Jessica Alba stars in Fantastic Four.

    Wed 2007/06/20 05:49:18 JST (ID #92056)
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  • Ricky
    Ricky in Brisbane, Australia (Registered on 2007/03/28)
    Pharmacist, Accountant to be!
    http://www.rickytang.com.au

    Manga > Marvel anyday except for when Jessica Alba stars in Fantastic Four.

    Wed 2007/06/20 05:49:18 JST (ID #117752)
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  • Ricky
    Ricky in Brisbane, Australia (Registered on 2007/03/28)
    Pharmacist, Accountant to be!
    http://www.rickytang.com.au

    Manga > Marvel anyday except for when Jessica Alba stars in Fantastic Four.

    Wed 2007/06/20 05:49:18 JST (ID #143577)
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  • Zeroblade
    Zeroblade in Manila, Philippines (Registered on 2007/04/10)
    Student
    http://zeroblade.dasaku.net

    I never really had any experience with comics, so manga all the way~

    Wed 2007/06/20 06:37:18 JST (ID #50053)
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  • Zeroblade
    Zeroblade in Manila, Philippines (Registered on 2007/04/10)
    Student
    http://zeroblade.dasaku.net

    I never really had any experience with comics, so manga all the way~

    Wed 2007/06/20 06:37:18 JST (ID #92057)
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  • Zeroblade
    Zeroblade in Manila, Philippines (Registered on 2007/04/10)
    Student
    http://zeroblade.dasaku.net

    I never really had any experience with comics, so manga all the way~

    Wed 2007/06/20 06:37:18 JST (ID #117753)
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  • Zeroblade
    Zeroblade in Manila, Philippines (Registered on 2007/04/10)
    Student
    http://zeroblade.dasaku.net

    I never really had any experience with comics, so manga all the way~

    Wed 2007/06/20 06:37:18 JST (ID #143578)
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  • Kaori Lolita
    Kaori Lolita in Singapore (Registered on 2007/04/18)
    Student Nurse
    http://kaori-lolita.livejournal.com

    i still like archie comics the most! ^^

    i like watching anime but reading manga gives me a headache.. ^^;

    Wed 2007/06/20 09:33:22 JST (ID #50059)
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  • Kaori Lolita
    Kaori Lolita in Singapore (Registered on 2007/04/18)
    Student Nurse
    http://kaori-lolita.livejournal.com

    i still like archie comics the most! ^^

    i like watching anime but reading manga gives me a headache.. ^^;

    Wed 2007/06/20 09:33:22 JST (ID #92063)
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  • Kaori Lolita
    Kaori Lolita in Singapore (Registered on 2007/04/18)
    Student Nurse
    http://kaori-lolita.livejournal.com

    i still like archie comics the most! ^^

    i like watching anime but reading manga gives me a headache.. ^^;

    Wed 2007/06/20 09:33:22 JST (ID #117759)
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  • Kaori Lolita
    Kaori Lolita in Singapore (Registered on 2007/04/18)
    Student Nurse
    http://kaori-lolita.livejournal.com

    i still like archie comics the most! ^^

    i like watching anime but reading manga gives me a headache.. ^^;

    Wed 2007/06/20 09:33:22 JST (ID #143584)
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  • Fallen_Demon
    Fallen_Demon in HCM, Vietnam (Registered on 2007/05/27)

    i prefer manga
    cauze' i think marvel's attraction is mainly violence, all that fighting that break houses, the ground rumbles..... blah blah
    but manga has sth that makes who read it have to think, 'bout feelings, dreams, pain, death, friendship, betrayal, love...
    it's not that marvel doesn't have its spectacular points...
    but since i'm an Asian...
    i would say that...
    Manga Rulez :D

    Wed 2007/06/20 09:36:07 JST (ID #50060)
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  • Fallen_Demon
    Fallen_Demon in HCM, Vietnam (Registered on 2007/05/27)

    i prefer manga
    cauze' i think marvel's attraction is mainly violence, all that fighting that break houses, the ground rumbles..... blah blah
    but manga has sth that makes who read it have to think, 'bout feelings, dreams, pain, death, friendship, betrayal, love...
    it's not that marvel doesn't have its spectacular points...
    but since i'm an Asian...
    i would say that...
    Manga Rulez :D

    Wed 2007/06/20 09:36:07 JST (ID #92064)
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  • Fallen_Demon
    Fallen_Demon in HCM, Vietnam (Registered on 2007/05/27)

    i prefer manga
    cauze' i think marvel's attraction is mainly violence, all that fighting that break houses, the ground rumbles..... blah blah
    but manga has sth that makes who read it have to think, 'bout feelings, dreams, pain, death, friendship, betrayal, love...
    it's not that marvel doesn't have its spectacular points...
    but since i'm an Asian...
    i would say that...
    Manga Rulez :D

    Wed 2007/06/20 09:36:07 JST (ID #117760)
    reply to Fallen_Demon's comment
  • Fallen_Demon
    Fallen_Demon in HCM, Vietnam (Registered on 2007/05/27)

    i prefer manga
    cauze' i think marvel's attraction is mainly violence, all that fighting that break houses, the ground rumbles..... blah blah
    but manga has sth that makes who read it have to think, 'bout feelings, dreams, pain, death, friendship, betrayal, love...
    it's not that marvel doesn't have its spectacular points...
    but since i'm an Asian...
    i would say that...
    Manga Rulez :D

    Wed 2007/06/20 09:36:07 JST (ID #143585)
    reply to Fallen_Demon's comment
  • Tiny Red Man
    Tiny Red Man in Tiny Red Dot, Singapore. (Registered on 2007/04/11)
    free lance otaku, full time Protector of Peace.

    actually, i would prefer both. I read manga inorder to learn how manga artists have their own drawing styles, panelling, and stories. aka the whole process of manga making.

    I WOULDN'T mind reading DC/Marvel Comics to learn anatomy properly so that I won't fail life drawing class! :P

    Manga, Marvel/DC, when i read them, I make sure that I will gain something good from them.

    Wed 2007/06/20 10:09:15 JST (ID #50061)
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  • Tiny Red Man
    Tiny Red Man in Tiny Red Dot, Singapore. (Registered on 2007/04/11)
    free lance otaku, full time Protector of Peace.

    actually, i would prefer both. I read manga inorder to learn how manga artists have their own drawing styles, panelling, and stories. aka the whole process of manga making.

    I WOULDN'T mind reading DC/Marvel Comics to learn anatomy properly so that I won't fail life drawing class! :P

    Manga, Marvel/DC, when i read them, I make sure that I will gain something good from them.

    Wed 2007/06/20 10:09:15 JST (ID #92065)
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  • Tiny Red Man
    Tiny Red Man in Tiny Red Dot, Singapore. (Registered on 2007/04/11)
    free lance otaku, full time Protector of Peace.

    actually, i would prefer both. I read manga inorder to learn how manga artists have their own drawing styles, panelling, and stories. aka the whole process of manga making.

    I WOULDN'T mind reading DC/Marvel Comics to learn anatomy properly so that I won't fail life drawing class! :P

    Manga, Marvel/DC, when i read them, I make sure that I will gain something good from them.

    Wed 2007/06/20 10:09:15 JST (ID #117761)
    reply to Tiny Red Man's comment
  • Tiny Red Man
    Tiny Red Man in Tiny Red Dot, Singapore. (Registered on 2007/04/11)
    free lance otaku, full time Protector of Peace.

    actually, i would prefer both. I read manga inorder to learn how manga artists have their own drawing styles, panelling, and stories. aka the whole process of manga making.

    I WOULDN'T mind reading DC/Marvel Comics to learn anatomy properly so that I won't fail life drawing class! :P

    Manga, Marvel/DC, when i read them, I make sure that I will gain something good from them.

    Wed 2007/06/20 10:09:15 JST (ID #143586)
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  • RedHotFunk
    RedHotFunk in Canada eh? (Registered on 2007/06/12)
    Currently Jobless Anime Fan

    I as well prefer both, but in choosing one; I would choose manga, as there are a much wider variety of manga's I enjoy then to that of comic books.

    Wed 2007/06/20 10:47:15 JST (ID #50062)
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  • RedHotFunk
    RedHotFunk in Canada eh? (Registered on 2007/06/12)
    Currently Jobless Anime Fan

    I as well prefer both, but in choosing one; I would choose manga, as there are a much wider variety of manga's I enjoy then to that of comic books.

    Wed 2007/06/20 10:47:15 JST (ID #92066)
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  • RedHotFunk
    RedHotFunk in Canada eh? (Registered on 2007/06/12)
    Currently Jobless Anime Fan

    I as well prefer both, but in choosing one; I would choose manga, as there are a much wider variety of manga's I enjoy then to that of comic books.

    Wed 2007/06/20 10:47:15 JST (ID #117762)
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  • RedHotFunk
    RedHotFunk in Canada eh? (Registered on 2007/06/12)
    Currently Jobless Anime Fan

    I as well prefer both, but in choosing one; I would choose manga, as there are a much wider variety of manga's I enjoy then to that of comic books.

    Wed 2007/06/20 10:47:15 JST (ID #143587)
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  • hendrik
    hendrik in jakarta,indonesia (Registered on 2007/05/31)
    student

    the only thing we can read as a comic here is pretty much translated to our language manga and the pirated manga.

    they sold some marvel comic in some hobby store, but it's very expensive

    here 1 trans to our language manga sold for 1$ and imported marvel sold for 10$ so i never buy it

    stupid pirate sold some SPAWN here, and the quality is ugly

    Wed 2007/06/20 11:03:47 JST (ID #50063)
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  • hendrik
    hendrik in jakarta,indonesia (Registered on 2007/05/31)
    student

    the only thing we can read as a comic here is pretty much translated to our language manga and the pirated manga.

    they sold some marvel comic in some hobby store, but it's very expensive

    here 1 trans to our language manga sold for 1$ and imported marvel sold for 10$ so i never buy it

    stupid pirate sold some SPAWN here, and the quality is ugly

    Wed 2007/06/20 11:03:47 JST (ID #92067)
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  • hendrik
    hendrik in jakarta,indonesia (Registered on 2007/05/31)
    student

    the only thing we can read as a comic here is pretty much translated to our language manga and the pirated manga.

    they sold some marvel comic in some hobby store, but it's very expensive

    here 1 trans to our language manga sold for 1$ and imported marvel sold for 10$ so i never buy it

    stupid pirate sold some SPAWN here, and the quality is ugly

    Wed 2007/06/20 11:03:47 JST (ID #117763)
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  • hendrik
    hendrik in jakarta,indonesia (Registered on 2007/05/31)
    student

    the only thing we can read as a comic here is pretty much translated to our language manga and the pirated manga.

    they sold some marvel comic in some hobby store, but it's very expensive

    here 1 trans to our language manga sold for 1$ and imported marvel sold for 10$ so i never buy it

    stupid pirate sold some SPAWN here, and the quality is ugly

    Wed 2007/06/20 11:03:47 JST (ID #143588)
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  • chun
    chun in need to be in bed (Registered on 2007/01/09)
    part time illustrationist, doll clothing seamstress
    http://puppy52art.com/

    I used to dislike Manga (can you believe?!) because I often was told that my drawing style resembled Manga-style as I like to draw large eyes and hardly any nose and small mouth, during the time when I did not get exposed to much Manga ^^;

    But then I was introduced to some good manga by a mentor and never looked back :) I think I like Manga more than Marvel-style stuff due to the variety and choice. And I think with Manga, they let art tell the story rather than so much text :P

    Wed 2007/06/20 11:04:03 JST (ID #50064)
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  • chun
    chun in need to be in bed (Registered on 2007/01/09)
    part time illustrationist, doll clothing seamstress
    http://puppy52art.com/

    I used to dislike Manga (can you believe?!) because I often was told that my drawing style resembled Manga-style as I like to draw large eyes and hardly any nose and small mouth, during the time when I did not get exposed to much Manga ^^;

    But then I was introduced to some good manga by a mentor and never looked back :) I think I like Manga more than Marvel-style stuff due to the variety and choice. And I think with Manga, they let art tell the story rather than so much text :P

    Wed 2007/06/20 11:04:03 JST (ID #92068)
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  • chun
    chun in need to be in bed (Registered on 2007/01/09)
    part time illustrationist, doll clothing seamstress
    http://puppy52art.com/

    I used to dislike Manga (can you believe?!) because I often was told that my drawing style resembled Manga-style as I like to draw large eyes and hardly any nose and small mouth, during the time when I did not get exposed to much Manga ^^;

    But then I was introduced to some good manga by a mentor and never looked back :) I think I like Manga more than Marvel-style stuff due to the variety and choice. And I think with Manga, they let art tell the story rather than so much text :P

    Wed 2007/06/20 11:04:03 JST (ID #117764)
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  • chun
    chun in need to be in bed (Registered on 2007/01/09)
    part time illustrationist, doll clothing seamstress
    http://puppy52art.com/

    I used to dislike Manga (can you believe?!) because I often was told that my drawing style resembled Manga-style as I like to draw large eyes and hardly any nose and small mouth, during the time when I did not get exposed to much Manga ^^;

    But then I was introduced to some good manga by a mentor and never looked back :) I think I like Manga more than Marvel-style stuff due to the variety and choice. And I think with Manga, they let art tell the story rather than so much text :P

    Wed 2007/06/20 11:04:03 JST (ID #143589)
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  • hendrik
    hendrik in jakarta,indonesia (Registered on 2007/05/31)
    student

    never read marvel comic.
    danny can you make mirai sketches bigger? sooner, it will be very helping my drawing skill.

    thanks

    Wed 2007/06/20 11:13:45 JST (ID #50065)
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  • hendrik
    hendrik in jakarta,indonesia (Registered on 2007/05/31)
    student

    never read marvel comic.
    danny can you make mirai sketches bigger? sooner, it will be very helping my drawing skill.

    thanks

    Wed 2007/06/20 11:13:45 JST (ID #92069)
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  • hendrik
    hendrik in jakarta,indonesia (Registered on 2007/05/31)
    student

    never read marvel comic.
    danny can you make mirai sketches bigger? sooner, it will be very helping my drawing skill.

    thanks

    Wed 2007/06/20 11:13:45 JST (ID #117765)
    reply to hendrik's comment
  • hendrik
    hendrik in jakarta,indonesia (Registered on 2007/05/31)
    student

    never read marvel comic.
    danny can you make mirai sketches bigger? sooner, it will be very helping my drawing skill.

    thanks

    Wed 2007/06/20 11:13:45 JST (ID #143590)
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  • AndyH
    AndyH in Birmingham, UK (Registered on 2006/12/25)
    3D artist
    http://andyh.cgsociety.org

    Bleh - manga for me.
    I just aint keen on the look of most american comics (especially superhero ones) and i hate the colouring most of the time. In comic art, i love clean linework and simplicity - this is why i love the manga style much more.

    There is sooommme really cool american comic art, but none of it is really mainstream.

    Wed 2007/06/20 12:07:15 JST (ID #50066)
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  • AndyH
    AndyH in Birmingham, UK (Registered on 2006/12/25)
    3D artist
    http://andyh.cgsociety.org

    Bleh - manga for me.
    I just aint keen on the look of most american comics (especially superhero ones) and i hate the colouring most of the time. In comic art, i love clean linework and simplicity - this is why i love the manga style much more.

    There is sooommme really cool american comic art, but none of it is really mainstream.

    Wed 2007/06/20 12:07:15 JST (ID #92070)
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  • AndyH
    AndyH in Birmingham, UK (Registered on 2006/12/25)
    3D artist
    http://andyh.cgsociety.org

    Bleh - manga for me.
    I just aint keen on the look of most american comics (especially superhero ones) and i hate the colouring most of the time. In comic art, i love clean linework and simplicity - this is why i love the manga style much more.

    There is sooommme really cool american comic art, but none of it is really mainstream.

    Wed 2007/06/20 12:07:15 JST (ID #117766)
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  • AndyH
    AndyH in Birmingham, UK (Registered on 2006/12/25)
    3D artist
    http://andyh.cgsociety.org

    Bleh - manga for me.
    I just aint keen on the look of most american comics (especially superhero ones) and i hate the colouring most of the time. In comic art, i love clean linework and simplicity - this is why i love the manga style much more.

    There is sooommme really cool american comic art, but none of it is really mainstream.

    Wed 2007/06/20 12:07:15 JST (ID #143591)
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  • Scavenger
    Scavenger in Japan, Osaka, Izumi-shi (Registered on 2007/01/06)
    Student

    US comics for me. I love the cover art of US comics (Shitloads of awsome variant covers for one issue.). I dont like the cover art of Manga. As for the art inside the comic and manga, I like US comic art more because the style can differ alot. Lots of manga just look the same.

    What I also think is better about US comics is that the US comics characters are more memorable than manga characters.

    That about manga stories being better is just a big stereotype.

    I do like manga. I love reading Iron Wok Jan!.

    Wed 2007/06/20 12:52:44 JST (ID #50067)
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  • Scavenger
    Scavenger in Japan, Osaka, Izumi-shi (Registered on 2007/01/06)
    Student

    US comics for me. I love the cover art of US comics (Shitloads of awsome variant covers for one issue.). I dont like the cover art of Manga. As for the art inside the comic and manga, I like US comic art more because the style can differ alot. Lots of manga just look the same.

    What I also think is better about US comics is that the US comics characters are more memorable than manga characters.

    That about manga stories being better is just a big stereotype.

    I do like manga. I love reading Iron Wok Jan!.

    Wed 2007/06/20 12:52:44 JST (ID #92071)
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  • Scavenger
    Scavenger in Japan, Osaka, Izumi-shi (Registered on 2007/01/06)
    Student

    US comics for me. I love the cover art of US comics (Shitloads of awsome variant covers for one issue.). I dont like the cover art of Manga. As for the art inside the comic and manga, I like US comic art more because the style can differ alot. Lots of manga just look the same.

    What I also think is better about US comics is that the US comics characters are more memorable than manga characters.

    That about manga stories being better is just a big stereotype.

    I do like manga. I love reading Iron Wok Jan!.

    Wed 2007/06/20 12:52:44 JST (ID #117767)
    reply to Scavenger's comment
  • Scavenger
    Scavenger in Japan, Osaka, Izumi-shi (Registered on 2007/01/06)
    Student

    US comics for me. I love the cover art of US comics (Shitloads of awsome variant covers for one issue.). I dont like the cover art of Manga. As for the art inside the comic and manga, I like US comic art more because the style can differ alot. Lots of manga just look the same.

    What I also think is better about US comics is that the US comics characters are more memorable than manga characters.

    That about manga stories being better is just a big stereotype.

    I do like manga. I love reading Iron Wok Jan!.

    Wed 2007/06/20 12:52:44 JST (ID #143592)
    reply to Scavenger's comment
  • pkick
    pkick in here and there (Registered on 2007/03/31)
    corrective phrenologist

    Marvel-style comics and Japanese manga really aren't very comparable. While both use paneled illustrations to tell stories, they otherwise fill different consumer niches. Manga's closest literary parallel are serialized novels, not comics. It's easier to produce, translate, and sell manga under the methods of book publishing than under comic publishing; this is why the market for translated manga never really exploded until book publishers such as Del Rey got into the business of translating full tankoubans. Unlike comics, manga was never meant to be sold in individual "booklets" of 30-something pages.

    A better comparison would be comics and doujinshi. Both have some sort of collectible value, both produce their end product in similar "booklets", and both tend to aim for hardcore fans than wider mainstream appeal.

    Wed 2007/06/20 15:08:24 JST (ID #50069)
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  • pkick
    pkick in here and there (Registered on 2007/03/31)
    corrective phrenologist

    Marvel-style comics and Japanese manga really aren't very comparable. While both use paneled illustrations to tell stories, they otherwise fill different consumer niches. Manga's closest literary parallel are serialized novels, not comics. It's easier to produce, translate, and sell manga under the methods of book publishing than under comic publishing; this is why the market for translated manga never really exploded until book publishers such as Del Rey got into the business of translating full tankoubans. Unlike comics, manga was never meant to be sold in individual "booklets" of 30-something pages.

    A better comparison would be comics and doujinshi. Both have some sort of collectible value, both produce their end product in similar "booklets", and both tend to aim for hardcore fans than wider mainstream appeal.

    Wed 2007/06/20 15:08:24 JST (ID #92073)
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  • pkick
    pkick in here and there (Registered on 2007/03/31)
    corrective phrenologist

    Marvel-style comics and Japanese manga really aren't very comparable. While both use paneled illustrations to tell stories, they otherwise fill different consumer niches. Manga's closest literary parallel are serialized novels, not comics. It's easier to produce, translate, and sell manga under the methods of book publishing than under comic publishing; this is why the market for translated manga never really exploded until book publishers such as Del Rey got into the business of translating full tankoubans. Unlike comics, manga was never meant to be sold in individual "booklets" of 30-something pages.

    A better comparison would be comics and doujinshi. Both have some sort of collectible value, both produce their end product in similar "booklets", and both tend to aim for hardcore fans than wider mainstream appeal.

    Wed 2007/06/20 15:08:24 JST (ID #117769)
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  • pkick
    pkick in here and there (Registered on 2007/03/31)
    corrective phrenologist

    Marvel-style comics and Japanese manga really aren't very comparable. While both use paneled illustrations to tell stories, they otherwise fill different consumer niches. Manga's closest literary parallel are serialized novels, not comics. It's easier to produce, translate, and sell manga under the methods of book publishing than under comic publishing; this is why the market for translated manga never really exploded until book publishers such as Del Rey got into the business of translating full tankoubans. Unlike comics, manga was never meant to be sold in individual "booklets" of 30-something pages.

    A better comparison would be comics and doujinshi. Both have some sort of collectible value, both produce their end product in similar "booklets", and both tend to aim for hardcore fans than wider mainstream appeal.

    Wed 2007/06/20 15:08:24 JST (ID #143594)
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  • D_Blade
    D_Blade in Montreal (Registered on 2006/12/31)
    Non-profit org. volunteering work addict

    The most difficult point in Comics is when one series has several authors. This gives a lot of variety in terms of development (but also possible adaptation of events in real-life and a touch of fiction -Think Captain America or The Amazing Spider-Man for example-), but can also cause major continuity problems or deviations from the original spirit.

    Generally, a manga has its constant authors, so there is no problem in comparison.

    Personally, I never was into comics (lacked the opportunity); so what I learned from MARVEL and DC super-heroes and super-villains is from TV shows (cartoons).
    My favorites series (and these I know the most) are (The Uncanny) X-Men and The Amazing Spider-Man, Superman, Batman and the Unlimited Justice League for MARVEL and DC Comics respectively.

    I am also a complete sucker when it comes to cross-overs(inter-series or inter-franchises). I never grow tired of that and I feel manga and anime truly lacks that (I like fan-made mangas a lot when they make references to popular series -fanservice?-)...

    Otherwise than that, I am much more into anime, and to some extent, manga. But give me a good comics issue and I would be quite happy (if I ever understand the storyline).

    Wed 2007/06/20 16:06:27 JST (ID #50070)
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  • D_Blade
    D_Blade in Montreal (Registered on 2006/12/31)
    Non-profit org. volunteering work addict

    The most difficult point in Comics is when one series has several authors. This gives a lot of variety in terms of development (but also possible adaptation of events in real-life and a touch of fiction -Think Captain America or The Amazing Spider-Man for example-), but can also cause major continuity problems or deviations from the original spirit.

    Generally, a manga has its constant authors, so there is no problem in comparison.

    Personally, I never was into comics (lacked the opportunity); so what I learned from MARVEL and DC super-heroes and super-villains is from TV shows (cartoons).
    My favorites series (and these I know the most) are (The Uncanny) X-Men and The Amazing Spider-Man, Superman, Batman and the Unlimited Justice League for MARVEL and DC Comics respectively.

    I am also a complete sucker when it comes to cross-overs(inter-series or inter-franchises). I never grow tired of that and I feel manga and anime truly lacks that (I like fan-made mangas a lot when they make references to popular series -fanservice?-)...

    Otherwise than that, I am much more into anime, and to some extent, manga. But give me a good comics issue and I would be quite happy (if I ever understand the storyline).

    Wed 2007/06/20 16:06:27 JST (ID #92074)
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  • D_Blade
    D_Blade in Montreal (Registered on 2006/12/31)
    Non-profit org. volunteering work addict

    The most difficult point in Comics is when one series has several authors. This gives a lot of variety in terms of development (but also possible adaptation of events in real-life and a touch of fiction -Think Captain America or The Amazing Spider-Man for example-), but can also cause major continuity problems or deviations from the original spirit.

    Generally, a manga has its constant authors, so there is no problem in comparison.

    Personally, I never was into comics (lacked the opportunity); so what I learned from MARVEL and DC super-heroes and super-villains is from TV shows (cartoons).
    My favorites series (and these I know the most) are (The Uncanny) X-Men and The Amazing Spider-Man, Superman, Batman and the Unlimited Justice League for MARVEL and DC Comics respectively.

    I am also a complete sucker when it comes to cross-overs(inter-series or inter-franchises). I never grow tired of that and I feel manga and anime truly lacks that (I like fan-made mangas a lot when they make references to popular series -fanservice?-)...

    Otherwise than that, I am much more into anime, and to some extent, manga. But give me a good comics issue and I would be quite happy (if I ever understand the storyline).

    Wed 2007/06/20 16:06:27 JST (ID #117770)
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  • D_Blade
    D_Blade in Montreal (Registered on 2006/12/31)
    Non-profit org. volunteering work addict

    The most difficult point in Comics is when one series has several authors. This gives a lot of variety in terms of development (but also possible adaptation of events in real-life and a touch of fiction -Think Captain America or The Amazing Spider-Man for example-), but can also cause major continuity problems or deviations from the original spirit.

    Generally, a manga has its constant authors, so there is no problem in comparison.

    Personally, I never was into comics (lacked the opportunity); so what I learned from MARVEL and DC super-heroes and super-villains is from TV shows (cartoons).
    My favorites series (and these I know the most) are (The Uncanny) X-Men and The Amazing Spider-Man, Superman, Batman and the Unlimited Justice League for MARVEL and DC Comics respectively.

    I am also a complete sucker when it comes to cross-overs(inter-series or inter-franchises). I never grow tired of that and I feel manga and anime truly lacks that (I like fan-made mangas a lot when they make references to popular series -fanservice?-)...

    Otherwise than that, I am much more into anime, and to some extent, manga. But give me a good comics issue and I would be quite happy (if I ever understand the storyline).

    Wed 2007/06/20 16:06:27 JST (ID #143595)
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  • D_Blade
    D_Blade in Montreal (Registered on 2006/12/31)
    Non-profit org. volunteering work addict

    Oh, and considering the richness in number of characters (the variety of personalities might be a completely different topic), no one beats Comics.

    Sometimes it is so messy, no one dares to reference all characters from one franchise.

    (I guess I will stop there now)

    Wed 2007/06/20 16:12:20 JST (ID #50071)
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  • D_Blade
    D_Blade in Montreal (Registered on 2006/12/31)
    Non-profit org. volunteering work addict

    Oh, and considering the richness in number of characters (the variety of personalities might be a completely different topic), no one beats Comics.

    Sometimes it is so messy, no one dares to reference all characters from one franchise.

    (I guess I will stop there now)

    Wed 2007/06/20 16:12:20 JST (ID #92075)
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  • D_Blade
    D_Blade in Montreal (Registered on 2006/12/31)
    Non-profit org. volunteering work addict

    Oh, and considering the richness in number of characters (the variety of personalities might be a completely different topic), no one beats Comics.

    Sometimes it is so messy, no one dares to reference all characters from one franchise.

    (I guess I will stop there now)

    Wed 2007/06/20 16:12:20 JST (ID #117771)
    reply to D_Blade's comment
  • D_Blade
    D_Blade in Montreal (Registered on 2006/12/31)
    Non-profit org. volunteering work addict

    Oh, and considering the richness in number of characters (the variety of personalities might be a completely different topic), no one beats Comics.

    Sometimes it is so messy, no one dares to reference all characters from one franchise.

    (I guess I will stop there now)

    Wed 2007/06/20 16:12:20 JST (ID #143596)
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  • lanie-emon
    lanie-emon in Keldabe, Malaysia (Registered on 2007/06/05)
    Mandalorian in training + Otaku...

    Funny, I was having this discussion about this issue in my manga club last Saturday...I am definitely more of a manga person. The reason is that when a manga is done, its done. as for marvel, the using of characters o'er and o'er again,well, it dilutes the spirit of that character. Well, that's my two piece in this matter...

    Wed 2007/06/20 18:02:48 JST (ID #50074)
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  • lanie-emon
    lanie-emon in Keldabe, Malaysia (Registered on 2007/06/05)
    Mandalorian in training + Otaku...

    Funny, I was having this discussion about this issue in my manga club last Saturday...I am definitely more of a manga person. The reason is that when a manga is done, its done. as for marvel, the using of characters o'er and o'er again,well, it dilutes the spirit of that character. Well, that's my two piece in this matter...

    Wed 2007/06/20 18:02:48 JST (ID #92078)
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  • lanie-emon
    lanie-emon in Keldabe, Malaysia (Registered on 2007/06/05)
    Mandalorian in training + Otaku...

    Funny, I was having this discussion about this issue in my manga club last Saturday...I am definitely more of a manga person. The reason is that when a manga is done, its done. as for marvel, the using of characters o'er and o'er again,well, it dilutes the spirit of that character. Well, that's my two piece in this matter...

    Wed 2007/06/20 18:02:48 JST (ID #117774)
    reply to lanie-emon's comment
  • lanie-emon
    lanie-emon in Keldabe, Malaysia (Registered on 2007/06/05)
    Mandalorian in training + Otaku...

    Funny, I was having this discussion about this issue in my manga club last Saturday...I am definitely more of a manga person. The reason is that when a manga is done, its done. as for marvel, the using of characters o'er and o'er again,well, it dilutes the spirit of that character. Well, that's my two piece in this matter...

    Wed 2007/06/20 18:02:48 JST (ID #143599)
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  • pkick
    pkick in here and there (Registered on 2007/03/31)
    corrective phrenologist

    Re: Xenos in Boston

    >Yes. That's how manga sells here,
    >but they were meant to be read as
    >monthly (or weekly) installments
    >ala US comics. Instead of
    >individual magazines ('comic
    >books'), they're released in large
    >anthology magazines.

    I'm quite well aware of the anthology format. Hence, my reference to _serialized_ novels as well as plain novels. The anthology format of manga is quite similar to the serialized anthology format of earlier pulp science-fiction (E.E. Doc Smith's "Lensmen" stories, for example). Like manga, those anthology installments would later be collected into singular novel format, still available for sale long after the initial anthology run.

    >Still, manga in its native Japan is
    >more like US comic book sales than
    >US manga sales. Well, that is if
    >the US comic book market was
    >healthier and sold well in stores
    >like 7/11, Family Mart, or whatever
    >locals stores you see in Japan.

    Well, that's exactly the sort of mainstream market penetration that novels have that comics lack.

    >Manga isn't meant to be sold like
    >novels. That's just how they're
    >sold in America.

    But that's also how they are sold in Japan too. After the initial anthology run, repeat sales are earned from the tankoubans sold in bookstores.

    >I'm somewhat tired of so many fans
    >not realizing this. (Not saying you
    >didn't, just that you didn't
    >mention it and I'm putting the info
    >out there.)

    I did mention it indirectly via my initial reference to the serialized novel format, but I suppose it wasn't quite clear. Sacrificing clarity for brevity, I ended up achieving neither *sigh*.

    >Sure it's nice US readers just buy
    >full tankoubans, but that's not how
    >it's done in Japan.

    It's done both ways in Japan, yes. The match may not be 100% the same, but I'd argue that the similarities to the serialized novel format means that manga is more similar to novels than it is to comics.

    Wed 2007/06/20 20:42:06 JST (ID #50082)
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  • pkick
    pkick in here and there (Registered on 2007/03/31)
    corrective phrenologist

    Re: Xenos in Boston

    >Yes. That's how manga sells here,
    >but they were meant to be read as
    >monthly (or weekly) installments
    >ala US comics. Instead of
    >individual magazines ('comic
    >books'), they're released in large
    >anthology magazines.

    I'm quite well aware of the anthology format. Hence, my reference to _serialized_ novels as well as plain novels. The anthology format of manga is quite similar to the serialized anthology format of earlier pulp science-fiction (E.E. Doc Smith's "Lensmen" stories, for example). Like manga, those anthology installments would later be collected into singular novel format, still available for sale long after the initial anthology run.

    >Still, manga in its native Japan is
    >more like US comic book sales than
    >US manga sales. Well, that is if
    >the US comic book market was
    >healthier and sold well in stores
    >like 7/11, Family Mart, or whatever
    >locals stores you see in Japan.

    Well, that's exactly the sort of mainstream market penetration that novels have that comics lack.

    >Manga isn't meant to be sold like
    >novels. That's just how they're
    >sold in America.

    But that's also how they are sold in Japan too. After the initial anthology run, repeat sales are earned from the tankoubans sold in bookstores.

    >I'm somewhat tired of so many fans
    >not realizing this. (Not saying you
    >didn't, just that you didn't
    >mention it and I'm putting the info
    >out there.)

    I did mention it indirectly via my initial reference to the serialized novel format, but I suppose it wasn't quite clear. Sacrificing clarity for brevity, I ended up achieving neither *sigh*.

    >Sure it's nice US readers just buy
    >full tankoubans, but that's not how
    >it's done in Japan.

    It's done both ways in Japan, yes. The match may not be 100% the same, but I'd argue that the similarities to the serialized novel format means that manga is more similar to novels than it is to comics.

    Wed 2007/06/20 20:42:06 JST (ID #92086)
    reply to pkick's comment
  • pkick
    pkick in here and there (Registered on 2007/03/31)
    corrective phrenologist

    Re: Xenos in Boston

    >Yes. That's how manga sells here,
    >but they were meant to be read as
    >monthly (or weekly) installments
    >ala US comics. Instead of
    >individual magazines ('comic
    >books'), they're released in large
    >anthology magazines.

    I'm quite well aware of the anthology format. Hence, my reference to _serialized_ novels as well as plain novels. The anthology format of manga is quite similar to the serialized anthology format of earlier pulp science-fiction (E.E. Doc Smith's "Lensmen" stories, for example). Like manga, those anthology installments would later be collected into singular novel format, still available for sale long after the initial anthology run.

    >Still, manga in its native Japan is
    >more like US comic book sales than
    >US manga sales. Well, that is if
    >the US comic book market was
    >healthier and sold well in stores
    >like 7/11, Family Mart, or whatever
    >locals stores you see in Japan.

    Well, that's exactly the sort of mainstream market penetration that novels have that comics lack.

    >Manga isn't meant to be sold like
    >novels. That's just how they're
    >sold in America.

    But that's also how they are sold in Japan too. After the initial anthology run, repeat sales are earned from the tankoubans sold in bookstores.

    >I'm somewhat tired of so many fans
    >not realizing this. (Not saying you
    >didn't, just that you didn't
    >mention it and I'm putting the info
    >out there.)

    I did mention it indirectly via my initial reference to the serialized novel format, but I suppose it wasn't quite clear. Sacrificing clarity for brevity, I ended up achieving neither *sigh*.

    >Sure it's nice US readers just buy
    >full tankoubans, but that's not how
    >it's done in Japan.

    It's done both ways in Japan, yes. The match may not be 100% the same, but I'd argue that the similarities to the serialized novel format means that manga is more similar to novels than it is to comics.

    Wed 2007/06/20 20:42:06 JST (ID #117782)
    reply to pkick's comment
  • pkick
    pkick in here and there (Registered on 2007/03/31)
    corrective phrenologist

    Re: Xenos in Boston

    >Yes. That's how manga sells here,
    >but they were meant to be read as
    >monthly (or weekly) installments
    >ala US comics. Instead of
    >individual magazines ('comic
    >books'), they're released in large
    >anthology magazines.

    I'm quite well aware of the anthology format. Hence, my reference to _serialized_ novels as well as plain novels. The anthology format of manga is quite similar to the serialized anthology format of earlier pulp science-fiction (E.E. Doc Smith's "Lensmen" stories, for example). Like manga, those anthology installments would later be collected into singular novel format, still available for sale long after the initial anthology run.

    >Still, manga in its native Japan is
    >more like US comic book sales than
    >US manga sales. Well, that is if
    >the US comic book market was
    >healthier and sold well in stores
    >like 7/11, Family Mart, or whatever
    >locals stores you see in Japan.

    Well, that's exactly the sort of mainstream market penetration that novels have that comics lack.

    >Manga isn't meant to be sold like
    >novels. That's just how they're
    >sold in America.

    But that's also how they are sold in Japan too. After the initial anthology run, repeat sales are earned from the tankoubans sold in bookstores.

    >I'm somewhat tired of so many fans
    >not realizing this. (Not saying you
    >didn't, just that you didn't
    >mention it and I'm putting the info
    >out there.)

    I did mention it indirectly via my initial reference to the serialized novel format, but I suppose it wasn't quite clear. Sacrificing clarity for brevity, I ended up achieving neither *sigh*.

    >Sure it's nice US readers just buy
    >full tankoubans, but that's not how
    >it's done in Japan.

    It's done both ways in Japan, yes. The match may not be 100% the same, but I'd argue that the similarities to the serialized novel format means that manga is more similar to novels than it is to comics.

    Wed 2007/06/20 20:42:06 JST (ID #143607)
    reply to pkick's comment
  • munu
    munu in Bhubaneswar (Registered on 2007/06/20)
    Software Engineer
    http://www.webtenet.com

    Graphics are extra ordinary.

    Thu 2007/06/21 00:21:27 JST (ID #50090)
    reply to munu's comment
  • munu
    munu in Bhubaneswar (Registered on 2007/06/20)
    Software Engineer
    http://www.webtenet.com

    Graphics are extra ordinary.

    Thu 2007/06/21 00:21:27 JST (ID #92094)
    reply to munu's comment
  • munu
    munu in Bhubaneswar (Registered on 2007/06/20)
    Software Engineer
    http://www.webtenet.com

    Graphics are extra ordinary.

    Thu 2007/06/21 00:21:27 JST (ID #117790)
    reply to munu's comment
  • munu
    munu in Bhubaneswar (Registered on 2007/06/20)
    Software Engineer
    http://www.webtenet.com

    Graphics are extra ordinary.

    Thu 2007/06/21 00:21:27 JST (ID #143615)
    reply to munu's comment
  • MonkeyKombat
    MonkeyKombat in Dubai,UAE (Registered on 2007/01/31)
    Sales Executive & Eternal Geek/Otaku
    http://www.myspace.com/han_shot_first1

    @ Xenos

    Actually I am reading Winick's run,it isn't great but it isn't horrible either. Although I do wish They'd bring Kevin Smith back.

    Thu 2007/06/21 02:53:10 JST (ID #50102)
    reply to MonkeyKombat's comment
  • MonkeyKombat
    MonkeyKombat in Dubai,UAE (Registered on 2007/01/31)
    Sales Executive & Eternal Geek/Otaku
    http://www.myspace.com/han_shot_first1

    @ Xenos

    Actually I am reading Winick's run,it isn't great but it isn't horrible either. Although I do wish They'd bring Kevin Smith back.

    Thu 2007/06/21 02:53:10 JST (ID #92106)
    reply to MonkeyKombat's comment
  • MonkeyKombat
    MonkeyKombat in Dubai,UAE (Registered on 2007/01/31)
    Sales Executive & Eternal Geek/Otaku
    http://www.myspace.com/han_shot_first1

    @ Xenos

    Actually I am reading Winick's run,it isn't great but it isn't horrible either. Although I do wish They'd bring Kevin Smith back.

    Thu 2007/06/21 02:53:10 JST (ID #117802)
    reply to MonkeyKombat's comment
  • MonkeyKombat
    MonkeyKombat in Dubai,UAE (Registered on 2007/01/31)
    Sales Executive & Eternal Geek/Otaku
    http://www.myspace.com/han_shot_first1

    @ Xenos

    Actually I am reading Winick's run,it isn't great but it isn't horrible either. Although I do wish They'd bring Kevin Smith back.

    Thu 2007/06/21 02:53:10 JST (ID #143627)
    reply to MonkeyKombat's comment
  • Liberationalist
    Liberationalist in UK (Registered on 2007/06/12)
    Music Producer/Delivery Driver
    http://www.coltuk.org

    Nath- see thats the unique and funny side of these polls! if you don't like Danny's work or this site then go some place else where people might appreciate western art forms more.

    Thank you.

    Fri 2007/06/22 09:56:15 JST (ID #50178)
    reply to Liberationalist's comment
  • Liberationalist
    Liberationalist in UK (Registered on 2007/06/12)
    Music Producer/Delivery Driver
    http://www.coltuk.org

    Nath- see thats the unique and funny side of these polls! if you don't like Danny's work or this site then go some place else where people might appreciate western art forms more.

    Thank you.

    Fri 2007/06/22 09:56:15 JST (ID #92182)
    reply to Liberationalist's comment
  • Liberationalist
    Liberationalist in UK (Registered on 2007/06/12)
    Music Producer/Delivery Driver
    http://www.coltuk.org

    Nath- see thats the unique and funny side of these polls! if you don't like Danny's work or this site then go some place else where people might appreciate western art forms more.

    Thank you.

    Fri 2007/06/22 09:56:15 JST (ID #117878)
    reply to Liberationalist's comment
  • Liberationalist
    Liberationalist in UK (Registered on 2007/06/12)
    Music Producer/Delivery Driver
    http://www.coltuk.org

    Nath- see thats the unique and funny side of these polls! if you don't like Danny's work or this site then go some place else where people might appreciate western art forms more.

    Thank you.

    Fri 2007/06/22 09:56:15 JST (ID #143703)
    reply to Liberationalist's comment
  • pkick
    pkick in here and there (Registered on 2007/03/31)
    corrective phrenologist

    The polls here are just for a bit of fun, I'm guessing. Like Slashdot's polls: "This whole thing is wildly inaccurate. Rounding errors, ballot stuffers, dynamic IPs, firewalls. If you're using these numbers to do anything important, you're insane."

    Fri 2007/06/22 14:08:09 JST (ID #50185)
    reply to pkick's comment
  • pkick
    pkick in here and there (Registered on 2007/03/31)
    corrective phrenologist

    The polls here are just for a bit of fun, I'm guessing. Like Slashdot's polls: "This whole thing is wildly inaccurate. Rounding errors, ballot stuffers, dynamic IPs, firewalls. If you're using these numbers to do anything important, you're insane."

    Fri 2007/06/22 14:08:09 JST (ID #92189)
    reply to pkick's comment
  • pkick
    pkick in here and there (Registered on 2007/03/31)
    corrective phrenologist

    The polls here are just for a bit of fun, I'm guessing. Like Slashdot's polls: "This whole thing is wildly inaccurate. Rounding errors, ballot stuffers, dynamic IPs, firewalls. If you're using these numbers to do anything important, you're insane."

    Fri 2007/06/22 14:08:09 JST (ID #117885)
    reply to pkick's comment
  • pkick
    pkick in here and there (Registered on 2007/03/31)
    corrective phrenologist

    The polls here are just for a bit of fun, I'm guessing. Like Slashdot's polls: "This whole thing is wildly inaccurate. Rounding errors, ballot stuffers, dynamic IPs, firewalls. If you're using these numbers to do anything important, you're insane."

    Fri 2007/06/22 14:08:09 JST (ID #143710)
    reply to pkick's comment
  • die_no
    die_no in Earth Federation Moon Base (philippines) (Registered on 2006/12/25)
    Gundam Pilot

    i prefer manga though i read it with english translations... i really love death note and the manga was completed...

    Sat 2007/06/23 09:29:54 JST (ID #50230)
    reply to die_no's comment
  • die_no
    die_no in Earth Federation Moon Base (philippines) (Registered on 2006/12/25)
    Gundam Pilot

    i prefer manga though i read it with english translations... i really love death note and the manga was completed...

    Sat 2007/06/23 09:29:54 JST (ID #92234)
    reply to die_no's comment
  • die_no
    die_no in Earth Federation Moon Base (philippines) (Registered on 2006/12/25)
    Gundam Pilot

    i prefer manga though i read it with english translations... i really love death note and the manga was completed...

    Sat 2007/06/23 09:29:54 JST (ID #117930)
    reply to die_no's comment
  • die_no
    die_no in Earth Federation Moon Base (philippines) (Registered on 2006/12/25)
    Gundam Pilot

    i prefer manga though i read it with english translations... i really love death note and the manga was completed...

    Sat 2007/06/23 09:29:54 JST (ID #143755)
    reply to die_no's comment
  • shippoyasha
    shippoyasha in NYC (Registered on 2007/06/10)
    NEET

    Manga is typically better nowadays because there's a lot more structure to manga. Weekly or monthly releases, a beginning, middle and an end.

    With comicbooks, they have stories that literally ran for hundreds of issues with too many spinoffs, alternate universes and stories that doesn't seem to go anywhere at times (no major villians really get killed off it seems).

    BUT, when comicbooks does it right, like in a neatly done graphic novel format, I feel it is much superior to manga. I mean, they're all colored and the storylines can be just really involving.

    It's just too bad that the comic industry is anemic as a whole and the superheroes are partly to blame for turning the medium into a two trick archetype.

    Sat 2007/06/23 15:37:50 JST (ID #50243)
    reply to shippoyasha's comment
  • shippoyasha
    shippoyasha in NYC (Registered on 2007/06/10)
    NEET

    Manga is typically better nowadays because there's a lot more structure to manga. Weekly or monthly releases, a beginning, middle and an end.

    With comicbooks, they have stories that literally ran for hundreds of issues with too many spinoffs, alternate universes and stories that doesn't seem to go anywhere at times (no major villians really get killed off it seems).

    BUT, when comicbooks does it right, like in a neatly done graphic novel format, I feel it is much superior to manga. I mean, they're all colored and the storylines can be just really involving.

    It's just too bad that the comic industry is anemic as a whole and the superheroes are partly to blame for turning the medium into a two trick archetype.

    Sat 2007/06/23 15:37:50 JST (ID #92247)
    reply to shippoyasha's comment
  • shippoyasha
    shippoyasha in NYC (Registered on 2007/06/10)
    NEET

    Manga is typically better nowadays because there's a lot more structure to manga. Weekly or monthly releases, a beginning, middle and an end.

    With comicbooks, they have stories that literally ran for hundreds of issues with too many spinoffs, alternate universes and stories that doesn't seem to go anywhere at times (no major villians really get killed off it seems).

    BUT, when comicbooks does it right, like in a neatly done graphic novel format, I feel it is much superior to manga. I mean, they're all colored and the storylines can be just really involving.

    It's just too bad that the comic industry is anemic as a whole and the superheroes are partly to blame for turning the medium into a two trick archetype.

    Sat 2007/06/23 15:37:50 JST (ID #117943)
    reply to shippoyasha's comment
  • shippoyasha
    shippoyasha in NYC (Registered on 2007/06/10)
    NEET

    Manga is typically better nowadays because there's a lot more structure to manga. Weekly or monthly releases, a beginning, middle and an end.

    With comicbooks, they have stories that literally ran for hundreds of issues with too many spinoffs, alternate universes and stories that doesn't seem to go anywhere at times (no major villians really get killed off it seems).

    BUT, when comicbooks does it right, like in a neatly done graphic novel format, I feel it is much superior to manga. I mean, they're all colored and the storylines can be just really involving.

    It's just too bad that the comic industry is anemic as a whole and the superheroes are partly to blame for turning the medium into a two trick archetype.

    Sat 2007/06/23 15:37:50 JST (ID #143768)
    reply to shippoyasha's comment
  • Danny Choo
    Danny Choo in Tokyo (Registered on 2006/12/11)
    CEO MIrai Inc
    http://www.dannychoo.com/profile/eng/

    All,
    The main point of this post was to stimulate good discussion which I see a lot of. I need to get the forums up and running ^^;

    Hen-nanoさん、
    知らなかった!
    小さな活字を拾うのを嫌がった印刷工 > (笑)

    Nath,
    lol.

    Sat 2007/06/23 20:21:25 JST (ID #50263)
    reply to Danny Choo's comment
  • Danny Choo
    Danny Choo in Tokyo (Registered on 2006/12/11)
    CEO MIrai Inc
    http://www.dannychoo.com/profile/eng/

    All,
    The main point of this post was to stimulate good discussion which I see a lot of. I need to get the forums up and running ^^;

    Hen-nanoさん、
    知らなかった!
    小さな活字を拾うのを嫌がった印刷工 > (笑)

    Nath,
    lol.

    Sat 2007/06/23 20:21:25 JST (ID #92267)
    reply to Danny Choo's comment
  • Danny Choo
    Danny Choo in Tokyo (Registered on 2006/12/11)
    CEO MIrai Inc
    http://www.dannychoo.com/profile/eng/

    All,
    The main point of this post was to stimulate good discussion which I see a lot of. I need to get the forums up and running ^^;

    Hen-nanoさん、
    知らなかった!
    小さな活字を拾うのを嫌がった印刷工 > (笑)

    Nath,
    lol.

    Sat 2007/06/23 20:21:25 JST (ID #117963)
    reply to Danny Choo's comment
  • Danny Choo
    Danny Choo in Tokyo (Registered on 2006/12/11)
    CEO MIrai Inc
    http://www.dannychoo.com/profile/eng/

    All,
    The main point of this post was to stimulate good discussion which I see a lot of. I need to get the forums up and running ^^;

    Hen-nanoさん、
    知らなかった!
    小さな活字を拾うのを嫌がった印刷工 > (笑)

    Nath,
    lol.

    Sat 2007/06/23 20:21:25 JST (ID #143788)
    reply to Danny Choo's comment
  • Karasu-kun
    Karasu-kun in オタキュブ (Registered on 2007/07/27)
    大学生徒
    http://ichinichijuu.blogspot.com/

    I never really liked ameri-komi because they were so depressing and like another poster said, the stories had little cohesive properties and plotlines and frequently went on forever and people die like 12 times but don't really die and then it's always about some giant battle or war. Mainly the depressing part, I realize X-Men was partially social commentary, but for someone that's in their early teens.... On the other hand, I adore manga because there are soooooo many free-flowing, absolutely crazy ideas out there. And when you want reality, Jidai anyone? I still adore Kenshin more than just about anything that I've ever read. And often times manga is really positive, or if it isn't, it has tension, not just out and out depressive themes. I'm an avid admirer of Japanese culture (a total understatement if I've ever made one) and I've always loved the themes of nature, Japanese culture, kami, etc, everything is always so "balanced". Everything can have a good and bad side a lot of the time, the yin/yang aspect, the lack of absolutism in Buddhism, it makes me very happy ^^.

    Sat 2007/07/28 17:19:05 JST (ID #52830)
    reply to Karasu-kun's comment
  • Karasu-kun
    Karasu-kun in オタキュブ (Registered on 2007/07/27)
    大学生徒
    http://ichinichijuu.blogspot.com/

    I never really liked ameri-komi because they were so depressing and like another poster said, the stories had little cohesive properties and plotlines and frequently went on forever and people die like 12 times but don't really die and then it's always about some giant battle or war. Mainly the depressing part, I realize X-Men was partially social commentary, but for someone that's in their early teens.... On the other hand, I adore manga because there are soooooo many free-flowing, absolutely crazy ideas out there. And when you want reality, Jidai anyone? I still adore Kenshin more than just about anything that I've ever read. And often times manga is really positive, or if it isn't, it has tension, not just out and out depressive themes. I'm an avid admirer of Japanese culture (a total understatement if I've ever made one) and I've always loved the themes of nature, Japanese culture, kami, etc, everything is always so "balanced". Everything can have a good and bad side a lot of the time, the yin/yang aspect, the lack of absolutism in Buddhism, it makes me very happy ^^.

    Sat 2007/07/28 17:19:05 JST (ID #94834)
    reply to Karasu-kun's comment
  • Karasu-kun
    Karasu-kun in オタキュブ (Registered on 2007/07/27)
    大学生徒
    http://ichinichijuu.blogspot.com/

    I never really liked ameri-komi because they were so depressing and like another poster said, the stories had little cohesive properties and plotlines and frequently went on forever and people die like 12 times but don't really die and then it's always about some giant battle or war. Mainly the depressing part, I realize X-Men was partially social commentary, but for someone that's in their early teens.... On the other hand, I adore manga because there are soooooo many free-flowing, absolutely crazy ideas out there. And when you want reality, Jidai anyone? I still adore Kenshin more than just about anything that I've ever read. And often times manga is really positive, or if it isn't, it has tension, not just out and out depressive themes. I'm an avid admirer of Japanese culture (a total understatement if I've ever made one) and I've always loved the themes of nature, Japanese culture, kami, etc, everything is always so "balanced". Everything can have a good and bad side a lot of the time, the yin/yang aspect, the lack of absolutism in Buddhism, it makes me very happy ^^.

    Sat 2007/07/28 17:19:05 JST (ID #120530)
    reply to Karasu-kun's comment
  • Karasu-kun
    Karasu-kun in オタキュブ (Registered on 2007/07/27)
    大学生徒
    http://ichinichijuu.blogspot.com/

    I never really liked ameri-komi because they were so depressing and like another poster said, the stories had little cohesive properties and plotlines and frequently went on forever and people die like 12 times but don't really die and then it's always about some giant battle or war. Mainly the depressing part, I realize X-Men was partially social commentary, but for someone that's in their early teens.... On the other hand, I adore manga because there are soooooo many free-flowing, absolutely crazy ideas out there. And when you want reality, Jidai anyone? I still adore Kenshin more than just about anything that I've ever read. And often times manga is really positive, or if it isn't, it has tension, not just out and out depressive themes. I'm an avid admirer of Japanese culture (a total understatement if I've ever made one) and I've always loved the themes of nature, Japanese culture, kami, etc, everything is always so "balanced". Everything can have a good and bad side a lot of the time, the yin/yang aspect, the lack of absolutism in Buddhism, it makes me very happy ^^.

    Sat 2007/07/28 17:19:05 JST (ID #146355)
    reply to Karasu-kun's comment
  • Karasu-kun
    Karasu-kun in オタキュブ (Registered on 2007/07/27)
    大学生徒
    http://ichinichijuu.blogspot.com/

    I'd say the art thing is all in your taste of styles. Manga in the general page-to-page sense is often "less-is-more" which I find charming. I find ameri-komi are too "busy" a lot of the time. But for, say, art book material, I'd say anything most mangaka can toss out easily rivals american comic artists' work, it just depends on what you prefer. Obata-sensei's artbook put out after/during Death Note is amazing, and he definitely has quite a range, from realistic to chibi and cartoony.

    Sat 2007/07/28 17:24:11 JST (ID #52831)
    reply to Karasu-kun's comment
  • Karasu-kun
    Karasu-kun in オタキュブ (Registered on 2007/07/27)
    大学生徒
    http://ichinichijuu.blogspot.com/

    I'd say the art thing is all in your taste of styles. Manga in the general page-to-page sense is often "less-is-more" which I find charming. I find ameri-komi are too "busy" a lot of the time. But for, say, art book material, I'd say anything most mangaka can toss out easily rivals american comic artists' work, it just depends on what you prefer. Obata-sensei's artbook put out after/during Death Note is amazing, and he definitely has quite a range, from realistic to chibi and cartoony.

    Sat 2007/07/28 17:24:11 JST (ID #94835)
    reply to Karasu-kun's comment
  • Karasu-kun
    Karasu-kun in オタキュブ (Registered on 2007/07/27)
    大学生徒
    http://ichinichijuu.blogspot.com/

    I'd say the art thing is all in your taste of styles. Manga in the general page-to-page sense is often "less-is-more" which I find charming. I find ameri-komi are too "busy" a lot of the time. But for, say, art book material, I'd say anything most mangaka can toss out easily rivals american comic artists' work, it just depends on what you prefer. Obata-sensei's artbook put out after/during Death Note is amazing, and he definitely has quite a range, from realistic to chibi and cartoony.

    Sat 2007/07/28 17:24:11 JST (ID #120531)
    reply to Karasu-kun's comment
  • Karasu-kun
    Karasu-kun in オタキュブ (Registered on 2007/07/27)
    大学生徒
    http://ichinichijuu.blogspot.com/

    I'd say the art thing is all in your taste of styles. Manga in the general page-to-page sense is often "less-is-more" which I find charming. I find ameri-komi are too "busy" a lot of the time. But for, say, art book material, I'd say anything most mangaka can toss out easily rivals american comic artists' work, it just depends on what you prefer. Obata-sensei's artbook put out after/during Death Note is amazing, and he definitely has quite a range, from realistic to chibi and cartoony.

    Sat 2007/07/28 17:24:11 JST (ID #146356)
    reply to Karasu-kun's comment
  • misha
    misha in sacramento,california (Registered on 2007/08/31)
    student

    Im not into super heroes and stuff so marvel and dc comics are not the type for me.I like manga because i can relate better to its stories about real life instead of super heroes.Anyways if I was forced to read a comic i would choose something like snoopy.I can relate to newspaper comics better than i can marvel.But either way i prefer manga.

    Fri 2007/08/31 21:01:24 JST (ID #56002)
    reply to misha's comment
  • misha
    misha in sacramento,california (Registered on 2007/08/31)
    student

    Im not into super heroes and stuff so marvel and dc comics are not the type for me.I like manga because i can relate better to its stories about real life instead of super heroes.Anyways if I was forced to read a comic i would choose something like snoopy.I can relate to newspaper comics better than i can marvel.But either way i prefer manga.

    Fri 2007/08/31 21:01:24 JST (ID #98006)
    reply to misha's comment
  • misha
    misha in sacramento,california (Registered on 2007/08/31)
    student

    Im not into super heroes and stuff so marvel and dc comics are not the type for me.I like manga because i can relate better to its stories about real life instead of super heroes.Anyways if I was forced to read a comic i would choose something like snoopy.I can relate to newspaper comics better than i can marvel.But either way i prefer manga.

    Fri 2007/08/31 21:01:24 JST (ID #123702)
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  • misha
    misha in sacramento,california (Registered on 2007/08/31)
    student

    Im not into super heroes and stuff so marvel and dc comics are not the type for me.I like manga because i can relate better to its stories about real life instead of super heroes.Anyways if I was forced to read a comic i would choose something like snoopy.I can relate to newspaper comics better than i can marvel.But either way i prefer manga.

    Fri 2007/08/31 21:01:24 JST (ID #149527)
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  • noid
    noid (Registered on 2007/08/31)

    Manga vs Marvel.... manga wins

    Manga vs Comics.... its a draw

    Sun 2007/09/02 15:02:42 JST (ID #56193)
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  • noid
    noid (Registered on 2007/08/31)

    Manga vs Marvel.... manga wins

    Manga vs Comics.... its a draw

    Sun 2007/09/02 15:02:42 JST (ID #98197)
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  • noid
    noid (Registered on 2007/08/31)

    Manga vs Marvel.... manga wins

    Manga vs Comics.... its a draw

    Sun 2007/09/02 15:02:42 JST (ID #123893)
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  • noid
    noid (Registered on 2007/08/31)

    Manga vs Marvel.... manga wins

    Manga vs Comics.... its a draw

    Sun 2007/09/02 15:02:42 JST (ID #149718)
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  • lostandfound
    lostandfound in Singapore (Registered on 2007/10/21)
    Hikikomori in the making
    http://supermariabros.deviantart.com/

    Manga FTW! I like it more coz of the number of pages and I just like anime style more than western even if the western have full coloured pages...

    Sun 2008/01/13 20:48:26 JST (ID #69596)
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  • Barsona
    Barsona in Bay Area, California (Registered on 2007/08/03)
    NEET (no, student, AND employed min. wage)
    http://otterhangar.blogspot.com/

    see, as being Japanese, I had more access to manga (before anime and manga went completely international), and hence I am sorta biased.. I did have a heated debate beofre with a comic book friend, and I did agree to some of his pov, but I still like my manga...

    Sat 2008/06/07 06:59:21 JST (ID #206542)
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  • Hakushaku
    Hakushaku in on the chair using a computer.... (Registered on 2008/03/12)
    Seeing red!!!

    Manga....reasons

    Good plot,setting,emotion.....story

    Sat 2008/06/07 07:07:06 JST (ID #206548)
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  • Kris
    Kris in Texas (Registered on 2008/05/19)
    http://girlg33k.blogspot.com/

    Marvel and DC are the big boys, but there's plenty of smaller publishers out there like Virgin, Top Cow, Image, and Darkhorse. And actually, Darkhorse and Image are fairly large publishing groups as well.

    I used to be pretty big into Marvel, but they keep screwing everything up. I love Spider-Man, but quit reading when Joey Q (the E.I.C) decided it was better to split up Peter and MJ through a demon (as opposed to a divorce or something) than to let Aunt May die already. And then there's this whole "Everyone's a Skrull" business. It's really ridiculous.
    At least with manga, the stories are more self contained. I don't have to read 15 different titles to get all the pieces of a single story, and the continuity doesn't go back 30-50 years. I still read a handful of comics, but it's a lot easier to get attached to manga characters since you don't have to know half a century of back story to understand everything.

    Sat 2008/06/07 07:10:18 JST (ID #206554)
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  • Brian the Bear
    Brian the Bear in Taipei, Taiwan (Registered on 2008/03/14)
    Engineer
    http://www.24bear.com/

    Just want to throw it out there... WATCH "IRON MAN"... THE BEST MARVEL MOVIE EVER.

    Sat 2008/06/07 07:10:37 JST (ID #206555)
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  • Kris
    Kris in Texas (Registered on 2008/05/19)
    http://girlg33k.blogspot.com/

    By the way, for all the comic hating manga lovers, try Sean McKeever's Spider-man Loves Mary Jane. It's a wonderfully written teen drama type story from the perspective of Mary Jane while all the characters are in high school.
    And Fables, a modern day take of fairy tales, published by Vertigo. Y: the Last Man is also excellent, as is Neil Gaiman's Sandman.

    Sat 2008/06/07 07:19:40 JST (ID #206569)
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  • Gibson
    Gibson in California (Registered on 2007/05/27)
    Student artist
    http://www.requestview.wordpress.com

    I could not live with out both of them.
    Manga + American Comic = Greater Good.
    Also Danny its not just marvel, ther other company such as D.C, Wizard etc.

    Sat 2008/06/07 07:33:24 JST (ID #206577)
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    • Elydis
      Elydis in Singapore (Registered on 2008/01/04)
      Games Designer
      http://grimoireofcorporealthought.blogspot.com

      Amen to that. I love both Manga and Marvel/Dc Comcis. I personally go for storyline rather then the look so as long as the plot is intresting, i am all for it.

      Sat 2008/06/07 09:06:50 JST (ID #206651)
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  • gordon
    gordon in 新加坡 Singapore (Registered on 2007/06/11)
    銀河帝国五〇一軍团 TK/TD 8316 M.E.P.D. Police Sergeant
    http://gordonator.com/

    i'm a big fan of marvel superheroes. personal favourite is spiderman, i have volumes of essential spiderman comic from the 60s and 70s at home. ^^;

    Sat 2008/06/07 08:48:43 JST (ID #206637)
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  • robnubis
    robnubis in Dublin, Ireland (Registered on 2008/01/27)
    full time student, 60% of the time.
    http://www.games.dcu.ie

    Marvel & DC will always have a special place in my heart, comics were my first step into the world of the nerd, and I've never looked back lol :D

    Sat 2008/06/07 14:16:20 JST (ID #206841)
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  • ETERNAL
    ETERNAL in Toronto, Canada (Registered on 2008/03/21)
    Amateur novelist
    http://memories-of-eternity.com

    I was never into comics in the first place, so manga it is.

    Sat 2008/06/07 16:43:02 JST (ID #206888)
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  • Todd
    Todd in Rochester, NY (Registered on 2007/01/02)

    It was Anime for me instead of Marvel. I guess because Robotech and Voltron were the first cartoons to come on in the mornings when I arrived at the baby sitters. Of course I didn't realize it was Anime until much later in life. Even now I still am not into Marvel stuff but now that every super hero has a movie franchise I don't need to buy the comics.

    Sat 2008/06/07 18:05:03 JST (ID #206922)
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  • thefrikking
    thefrikking in Spain (Registered on 2007/08/18)
    Ork Warlord

    In the past, I really enjoy with Marvel universe, but in last years Marvel is too far away that was in the past, most because they think can live without they best authors-screenwriters. People like Frank Miller made Marvel the name they have...

    In actually, manga is soo exitous because the big variety,love, terror, action historys...

    Anyways, I agree Marvel, no, the american comic deserves all respect, because most people thinks american comic is only Marvel, they wrong, people of Image or Black Horse make good things...

    If have time, I recomend you read Predicator, you wont be dissapointed...

    Sat 2008/06/07 20:03:09 JST (ID #207023)
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  • scum2k1
    scum2k1 in Irvine, CA (Registered on 2008/05/10)
    Professionally Unemployed

    Manga for sure. Simple because of the diversity of genres. I know that saying all comic books are about super action heroes is not true, but you gotta admit, it sure does seem that way.
    Not that superheroes are bad or anything? Bt when thats all they offer, the heart yearns for something...different.

    Sat 2008/06/07 21:07:34 JST (ID #207077)
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  • Xipe
    Xipe in somewhere in Texas O_O (Registered on 2008/05/25)
    http://myanimelist.net/animelist/Xipe

    Well, I always keep my mind open to new thing so when I was younger I tried some comics but I just didn't get hooked with any, and with manga I just couldn't stop reading, I think the one that hooked me up was negima.

    Sat 2008/06/07 21:20:44 JST (ID #207088)
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  • lin-da-kenobi
    lin-da-kenobi in Lima, Peru ^^ (Registered on 2007/08/15)
    medicine student & otaku

    MANGA of course i just love the art style ya know? I DON'T KNOW it could be the romance, the melacholy in Manga, mmmmm... i don't know IT'S JUST PASSION I LOVE IT! & Marvel on the other side yeah i'll say that i like X-Men (Wolverine rocks!) & from D/C Comics my fav is the Joker :)

    Sat 2008/06/07 21:46:24 JST (ID #207102)
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  • W10002
    W10002 in USA (Registered on 2008/06/07)

    I know this topic is probably dead by now, but I was reading through all the comments here and I would like to give my input in the comparison.

    Personally I like Marvel [and comics in general] just as much as Manga. I totally understand some of the problems people have with Marvel.

    I know some people find Marvel comics stories mediocre when compared to some mangas... While it's true that it's sometimes hard to follow the over-arching story of a character, I think comics are probably best enjoyed by reading one story at a time. If you do this, there are some excellent stories that focuses on interesting aspects that I don't think Manga goes into. For example, Marvels is about a photojournalist and his life from the 40s to the 60s, and how his life has changed because of the emergence of superheroes, and how he deals with them. This includes how he gets swamped with hatred for mutants, or he sometimes sees the heroes as gods only to have them fail him. If we don't limit the comparison to Marvel, and talk about comics in general...then there are tons more stories out there that have stories just as good as the best mangas. There's the award winning Maus, about a comic artist who tries to re-connect with his father by learning about his father's experience as a Jew during the Holocaust [with the Jews as mice, Nazi's as cats, and Polish as pigs]. Or the complex works of Alan Moore, which includes V for Vendetta, or Watchmen, which has sooo much layers of complexity that it rivals any manga [heck, there was even a course to analyze Watchmen for a whole school term in Oxford once].

    As for chracters, I know that people have also mentioned that the characters just feel to fake and not as complex as manga characters. I would have to disagree with this. At least with Marvel, every character has a flaw or an aspect that makes them human. Iron Man is an alcoholic, but he's also a weapons manufacturer who is gilt ridden with the horrors he's created by designing weapons. Captain America [at least Steve Rogers] is the typical stereotype of a 1940s All American soldier, who's philosophies and personality is out of touch with modern American, yet he tries to maintain a presence in a way that people in America still find him endearing. Dr. Strange became the person he is because he was an arrogant doctor who cared only about himself, until that arrogance costed him everything. Spider-Man had the powers to help people, but when he ignored using his powers to help, he lost the most important thing in his life. He also continues to struggle like an average American with money, school [at one point], and his love-life. And if we talk about comics in general, we have Batman, who's a tortured psycho, who's always on edge to rid crime because of the traumatic event he had seeing his parent killed when he was a child. Or in independent comics with more personal characters, like autobiographical comics of American Spleandor or Pedore and Me [about Judd Winick and his relationship with Pedro - up until his friend passed away from AIDS]. All these cahracters are in no way complete cut-outs. There may be from time to time writes that writes these cahracters as paper cut-outs, but when you read some of teh best works in comics, you really get to like these cahracters and find them as related as characters from the best mangas.

    As for art, sometimes the best art in comics also rivals manga. The amount of detail into one comic sometimes completely blows me away. Let's not forget Alex Ross, who paints his comics as photo-realistic as he can. However, in the debate of art, there no better or worse here. Given the different cultures between Japan and America, there will be differing artstyles between comics and manga. It's like comparing artwork from teh Renaissance with, I dunno, Cubism. Both of them are complex in it's own way, and good in it's own way. But completely different. Or how about a comparison between artwork in Chinese scrolls, where there is no perspecitive, and everythign can be seen at once - as if you had the point of view of a God -- and compared that to early Renaissance art where perspective was discovered and the artists tried to give a point of view as real as possible? It's different in style and the only way it can be judge is based on an individual opinion.

    In all, I think when this comparison between Manga and Marvel was setup, it's probably seen that Marvel would represent comics in general. It's a little unfair just to have Marvel represent comcis in general, as there have been other great works out there that aren't even given into consideration into this debate. It's like comparing..I dunno... American comics and Shogakukan only. Of course given the audience here, people would find manga better. But I think it's completely from your point of view. Personally, both mediums can be as artiscally amazing, and the stories can be equally emotional, complex, and endearing. I've also defended manga this passionately from comic book geeks who scoff manga as just erotica. You just need to give both mediums a chance.

    Sat 2008/06/07 23:29:13 JST (ID #207154)
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  • zie
    zie in Arlington,VA USA (Registered on 2007/01/09)
    freelance

    I love love Marvel and Manga hard to choose but Manga is great as well as Marvel. If it wasn't for marvel i wouldn't make the transition to Manga. Fav Marvel comics X men Spider Man! Manga lots of choices to pick from .

    Sun 2008/06/08 00:31:02 JST (ID #207207)
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  • noob
    noob in philippines (Registered on 2007/09/02)
    Underdog Artist, Outcast to the Society, Tetsuya Nomura art fan

    I'm kind'a choosy about manga and marvel. so frankly....they are evenly matched for me as long as it catches people's interest. some stories are derived from marvel and some are from manga.

    Sun 2008/06/08 00:46:59 JST (ID #207220)
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  • wormgear
    wormgear in Chicago (Registered on 2008/02/22)
    Software Quality Engineer
    http://brotherwormgear.blogspot.com/

    Wow!
    This is one heavy-duty discussi.... ARGUMENT here! Why are there so many posts where the name has no link back to a dannychoo.com profile, and no other information in it? Did a whole bunch of people sign up for new accounts on DC today just so they could jump in? Weird.

    Anyway. While both clearly have their own merit and have something to contribute, this is about preference. For me, it's Manga.

    How about a different type of feedback. The WORDS.

    Manga = MAN ("Whimsical" or "Involuntary") GA (Pictures). Manga generally covers are *vast* variety of topics, stories and characters. Many of my favourites are historical.

    Comics = Comes from the word "comical" or "funny" (similar to whimsical, I guess). From what I have seen in comic book shops, the stories and topics can vary greatly, but the characters tend to focus primarily on the "superhero" or the comedian.

    Sun 2008/06/08 04:33:19 JST (ID #207344)
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    • W10002
      W10002 in USA (Registered on 2008/06/07)

      Actually, I've been a lurker here. I just never got around registering an account and posting comments until yesterday.

      In any case, that's why comic book fans prefer the name 'Graphic Novel'. It makes it sound a lot more academic and serious when it's a novel, right? You don't see comic-book movies always say 'Based on the Comic Book', instead it's 'Based on the Graphic Novel'.

      Sun 2008/06/08 14:16:47 JST (ID #207738)
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  • Marchand de sable
    Marchand de sable (Registered on 2008/10/08)
    Student/ Future Doctor .

    You cant compare manga vs marvel , but if you are refering to manga vs comics, they are pretty diferent and cover a lot of different themes there are good manga and bad manga and it's the same with comics.

    Wed 2008/10/08 09:56:33 JST (ID #327118)
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