２次元の勝ち

don't think 2D is a better substitute for a real sex with 3d girls. I'll take those idols any day, provided they're willing to accept me. lol!

2D and 3D for teh win

btw, thats a really nice doujin

I don't get it... That's like asking a puppy, do you prefer a picture of bacon bits, or a real bag of them? [It's BACOOOOONNN! hehe]

I would imagine they all prefer the real thing, but they are either cowards or they are just giving up.

I gave up drinking and smoking years ago, but I'll be damned if I ever give up on the ladies. :]

"Young men not having sex is one of the main reasons. They don't want to get hurt (dumped by human girls) so never advance past 2D girls."
(One of the reasons why Japan birth rate fell?)

As for the reasoning line above, I always felt that way, but I also considered females' feelings. I'm also open to go for 3D whenever. I'm ready now. Hope it's not too late. *laughs and sighs*

More and more ero games are becoming 3D! Too bad hi-res VR glasses are still too expensive :(

For the most part i like 2D....

But i like the occasional 3D should they look good ^^;

The bacon analogy is not quite right, since obviously the only thing you want with a piece of bacon is to eat it. Therefore there is absolutely no way for drawn bacon to be superior to real bacon.

Girls on the other hand are different. 2D girls can be drawn to fit one's ideal of perfection. The fact that they are forever unreachable is a trade-off, and some people find it to be a good deal. That is why they prefer 2D to 3D.

And on another note, I consider idols to be closer to 2D. They fulfil certain criteria of a "perfect" girl and at the same time are almost as unreachable as 2D girls. It's the same basic mentality.

No wonder Japanese women are so frustrated.

well i'm married...so long past 2d... but ocasionally like to take a peak..:D

I've never thought about this... I'm too busy figuring out how to play Golden Sun :P

Seriously, I'd never thought about that. Too busy thinking about how to get a job as a manga artist to bother. But I'll get a 3D one someday.

I've been hurt by females before.. it's true that I don't want to experience that again, but there's more to it than just that. People have more developped tastes these days, and expect the same from their partners. Expectations are higher while demands are more specific. Of course that makes it harder to find a suitable partner. There are no girls that enjoy anime, games and my music the way that I do. We wouldn't have much in common.. we'd do our seperate things.

I voted for 2D only. I'm not against 3D, but I just don't see it happen unless I give up everything I love.

Well 2d is nice but I do like 3d girls more.

Nop, never been into that 2d girlthing. i like them touchable and actually responing ;)

Personally I prefer 3D.. and 2D is just a hobby!

My conversion rate:
One 3D >> 100GB of 2D

*hehe*

No doubt from a point of a gravure idol fan, I always prefer 3D.

like blackster, i like my women warm and moaning. though sometimes the perfect woman is always in 2D - guess you cant have both.

The question is -- Where do RealDolls and CandyGirls fit into all of this??

3D girls in pictures on the internet aren't much different than 2D girls drawn in pictures on the internet. Still unrealistic and unattainable. Yes, there is a slim chance one could meet up with an idol, porn star, etc. but it's very unlikely.

That being said, 2D is cool as long as you don't give up real 3D.

both 2D and 3D, but more on 2D haha :D

2D for life.

I would post a Yamazaki-rant from NHK but I don't feel like finding the novel right now.

Ok. If guys in Japan can appreciate a real girl in Japan. I sure can, if any girls are feeling lonely, give me a call. Seriously, you guys need to get to the baby making, because if the present generation is going to be the last generation a lot of us wont have anymore cool toys to play with. Hurry UP! Your population is on the decline.

@wildarms

do you mean this pic?
http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/uncyclopedia/images/thumb/f/f5/CrossdressingYamazaki.jpg/316px-CrossdressingYamazaki.jpg

I choose both for variety :p
and I can't live without either one.

Most people will never admit they prefer 2D to 3D, even to themselves... much less on a blog.
I don't have a girlfriend now... I have maybe some possibilities around, but also very very very high standards.
Some girl-friends said I'll end up dying alone because of this.

But I treat 2D and 3D like completely different things.
What I feel watching 2D animation will never be achieved by 3D girls, and the experiences I had with 3D girls will never be achieved on 2D animes.

I love both, and unfortunately there can be times you can only choose one.

For now, I'm enjoying 2D. And though I really miss 3D sometimes, I'm not in a hurry, or desperate to change the situation...

At the moment, i dont care much either way, though i probally watch 2-d girls more than 3-d girls in tv and on the com.
Should a 3-d girl come along i wouldn't hesitate to jump on, but i'm not gonna go out of my way to make it happen.

i enjoy both 2D and 3D but i'm more inclined and enjoy more to 2D girls ^___^

2D girls 3D figures what more can you ask?

I prefer 3D. I love 2D but 3D idols would turn me on more then 2D drawings.

Much as I like 2-D girls, they don't hug back, yeah? ^_^ Guys shouldn't be afraid of taking chances with real women.

@D_Blade: Lol, its never too late! Its sad to hear people saying they dont think they will find a REAL (I just cant call them 3D, sorry) girl that likes the same things they do (Keats). Maybe its just the area where I live, but my gf loves anime and even gets excited about me painting and working on my models. We also both like riding motorcycles (yes, she has her own) and even like similar food. It took a loooooong time to find her, and I had to date a LOT of girls, but I did. So.. dont be afraid, who cares if it doesnt work out? There are tons (or tonnes in metric) girls out there just waiting to be seduced. Plus, the sex with a real girl is soooo much better than 2D. Sorry, but those of us who have had it know its true (unless they are bad at sex.. which happens unfortunetly.. sigh.. some girls just need training)

word up Dragun haha

Fo Schizzle LyGuy!

3D for the win.

All this talk about "fear" and being afraid is rather insulting. I've only liked cartoons all my life*, and I'm pretty certain I wasn't afraid of being rejected when I was six years old. If I live my life the way other people say I should, it wouldn't be fair to whoever I end up in a relationship with.

*I associate this with being raised by television.

I love both... What more can I say?

So, ero-manga etc. are an effective birth control device? Interesting. (Incidentally while I was stooging about in Akihabara the other week I saw a few Otaku with girlfriends... okay, they weren't exactly Hermes from Train Man but it was kind of interesting to note).

@DRAGUN: What is the most annoying part is to see one you like being closer to you with time but already being with someone else. I never charge blindly and I'm not a partisan of cheating. The hardest part but the best is to go alone, search without forcing self and suffer a bit. ^^;;

Compatibility of hobbies is secondary, unless it becomes an open source of conflict... Better be sure of certain details before proceeding into a long-term relationship. Otherwise it comes back at you and everybody should know that can hurt quite a bit.

I'm glad you're having a happy life and that you've found the one. Really.

@Foxtail Dreamer: Candygirls and affiliated = Pseudo 3D? XD

By the way, a hint for all males here.

Girls love guys who can manage a household... Best would to become a cleaning fairy. The macho man archetype is slowly dying as mentalities change, and I agree wholeheartedly to that train of thoughts. ^^;

More tips & tricks available. Just ask for them. ;)

It`s true that 2-D girls never hurt or betray you, but never lose hope on 3-D people, not only gils. Negate this is negate yourself.

Be freak like mad, but never lose control of reality...

And, D_Blade, you`re absolutly right.

I'd have to go with 2D here. This part of the world seems to have not yet caught up to modern interests, so I just plain don't understand most people around here. Everyone here has such simple interests.

Seriously, go on any dating site and look up girls in Kelowna, BC, Canada. Every single one of them will have nothing but camping, horseback riding and "hanging out" in their interests...how plain. >.>

I've managed to drag a good portion of my town a little closer to nerdiness, but they still don't go much further than playing Super Nintendo and watching Dragonball.

Wow, this is a tough one ^^;
I'd personally go for 3-D, but not just
anything 3-D but someone I actually like and is a lot to my likings (wich is probably why ill be alone for the rest of my life^^).
On the other hand, I can also fall in love with a 2-D girl (Yoruichi i.e.) but thats different and not real love.
Yet I would consider it more powerful then a 3-D love.
An otaku's life is a wierd and lonely thing, but I cant prefer anything over it.

I would rather go with a 3-D girl and hope she understands my 2-D girl fetish lol, she might have it as well.

I really like 2D girls, but i will never miss my chance with a 3D one, specially the ones in the idol section

btw, i forgot to add this to my last post...

I WANT THAT YURI DOUJIN~ *heart heart heart*

lulz XDDD

I think its less about preference and more about common interest. If I can find a 3D girl who accepts me collecting figures and playing eroge all day, then maybe I would consider it.

Because if said 3D girl starts spewing nonsense about me "enjoying" the company of 2D women to much, then shes obviously gonna have to move out. Im not changing what I believe in for so called "Love"

I'm a 2D guy at times, but I'll stick with the 3D :)

Figures are as 3-D as it gets for me. And I like it that way.

I prefer real women. :)

hmmm...
2d girls and idols are about one in the same in my book. its all about fantasy really if you think about it... the 2d girl or the girl you will only see in pictures or on video most likely.

...and i don't want to hear this crap about otaku not being able to get girls... that is all in your head. i've never had a problem.

how about going out of the house every now and again and popping in at the local pub with the rest of the world.

come on... abortion and birth control are headed down!!! come on guys, lets see what we can do to knock that number up a bit (lol)!!!

That is a lol fact. We guys do have it tough. As for me, one knows when 2D is better than 3D and vice versa.
Though, shouldn't it be 4D since the girls we know "grow" with time? It makes life good, right, amirite? I say go ahead an embrace the next girl you see to remind you how good it is to be able to have both. At first there was nothing, then there was bust (and other goodies, lol).

Any chance I can downgrade from my current 3D to 2D?

@SPaulMac.

yes, however we require a 15% restocking fee plus a $175.00 early termination charge.

djet0, got to secure the relationship first (and many fail at it), then you can consider reaching the "higher level".
Think Maslow and you'll understand my words. ;)

Though I roll both ways, my preference is slightly towards 2D girls. Perhaps that'll change once I triggered an 'event' somewhere, based on the decisions I've made throughout my chosen story arc.

PS: I want that Code Geass doujin.

@D_Blade: I agree, liking someone that is dating someone else is hard, and cheating and unfaithfulness is no way to start a relationship, or end one for that matter. Although, sometimes one must realize when someone is worth it and steal them away. I have done this, usually to the benefit of all parties involved. It seems crude, but fate only takes you part way, the rest is up to you.

I agree that there are many intrinsic properties in a relationship that cannot be summerized by common interests. I have dated many women that do not share my hobbies or interests. This does not prevent a certain attraction that can sometimes seem contradictory.

I hate to disagree with D_Blade, but most girls are looking for just a few simple things.
1. Something to fix. If you are too perfect, women get annoyed.
2. Something different, new and dangerous.
3. Feeling like they are special. If you stop doing this, usually thats when the relationship stops.

... OH! and dont eat HALIBUT!

Im not going to lie I love my 2D women sooo much that my real world view of women is jaded and no girl is pretty enough for me. I have to lower my standards for 3D women but never ever for my 2D I will always love them!!!
Or maybe that girl I meet at Anime Expo before going to the haruhi concert!!! Man I should have said something to her!!!!

DRAGUN, You felt disagreeing with me, but I agree with you in the end. *laughs*

Still, cheating/stealing is in no way inscribed in my vocabulary. I like to call it my "Code of Honor". Now if some of you do it, well, better have a well-prepared plan in advance.

And what's with halibuts tonight?

Hell.... I love 2D or 3D girls. Girls are hot in either dimension. But I must say you can't beat a 3D girl, they are just a little more interactive ^O^

@D_Blade: If you eat Halibut, you would eventually know. I just would rather you take me word for it and stay away. Kind of like women. Lmao. AAAhhhhh.. he he.
I agree that honor is important. But what is more honorable; leaving the woman that you care about in a useless relationship that will never go anywhere with someone who wont be the best possible person for her? or plan B, steal her away and stop her from all that pain. Hmmm... I agree, B is much harder. Or.. maybe the first one is. Who knows?

one can't make love to a 2D girl. straight forward. ('~')

totally depends on preference.
2d has it advantage and disadvantage same goes for 3d.

just remember the fact everything has a risk no such thing as 100% safe.how big?depends on situations and circumstances.

anyway ppl good luck on finding the luv of ur life if u still do not have one.(^_^)b god bless u ppl.

p.s:feeling hurt and happy when u r in love is all part of the package.thats life.

2D rocks but sad they're not real. lol

I miss Kallen. She's hot. XD I hope the second season comes soon.

i can see the reason for all this, it makes sense. 2D or 3D woman won't hurt u hehehehe. maybe china should try this strategy as well

As far as sexual attraction and pure fun goes, 2D suits me fine. I'm too burnt out by 3D relationships personally. I don't really trust anyone anymore.

Danny, you got mentioned on AnimeNewsNetwork about this post: http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2007-11-29/tokyo-anime-center-to-hold-life-size-figure-party

And their post is about a party of life-size dolls of anime characters in Tokyo Anime Center in Akiba ;p
It's unfortunate that the exposition is so short... You can even buy one of the figures.

I'd go for both rather than choosing just one. each has it's own strength and weakness, so it will complement each other perfectly~~~
Mind you, i'm still looking for a 3D one though...

God! I can't believe that.
What is wrong with those guys?

I don0t think to get a girlfriend can be too dificult. A paper can give warm and love.

And the very sad fact here is that the population in Japan more and more old. Less childs in the nipon land.

I can understand the feelings of finding solace in 2D women, actually. Real women are a freaking hassle for some of us out there. I don't have the time, money, looks or charm that women look for, so I'm essential roughing a hurricane with a leaky boat and a broken paddle.

2D women, on the other hand, don't have ugly personalities. (At least not the ones I worship.) Besides, I've never met any woman who was even half as perfect as the 2D women I fascinate over. I'll wait for the perfectly cute and innocent girl to come along, then maybe I'll try this 'dating real women' thing again for kicks.

I understand the reason for not going for 3D women. 'Real' women, depending on the girl are a hassle. You have to get the signals and play mind games, it's total crap. But in the end, once you get that 3D girl, it's something golden. So, both 2D and 3D has some great positive sides, but also there's some cons. I don't know...

well,i like 2 d more because they are cuter, and you can get much better poses, but 3d is good when your in the mood for a human (like if your gf just dumped you!):D that happened to me, i tured into a HUGE hentai perv so :D

and theres the emotional aspect of trying to get into real girl's pants XD i tryed didnt work, you have to be phykick tofigure out womens emotions, unlike 2d where they love you no matter how fat,ugly, anoying, or stupid you can be (guys who can get girls easy wont understand the 2d aspect)

Ditto to all the previous comments. There are positive and negative aspects to both. But if you watch too much...ahem...2D women, your expectations for 3D could be too high. I have not yet met a 3D woman with my 2D expectations. Well...I came close once, but that's another story.

Me I think that 2D and 3D has their Pros and Cons.With 3D girls you can talk to them,Have sex with them,they can comfort you whenever your sad,However the Cons she can just use you,Cheat on you,Not give you a chance just because of the way you look or what you like.2D Pros you don't have to lower your standards,Their your fantasy ,They'll never cheat on you,they never age,They never have to do #1 or #2 in the Bathroom,they can have wonderful faces bodies and personalities altogether,But the cons are you cannot talk to them,they cannot give you companionship,they can't comfort you.
Me personally think that human females are pathetic because all they care about is money,Muscles and such all that overrated crap.I choose 2D since I just love anime girls and I hope someday they'll make a Fu$kable anime love/sex doll with AI that you can marry.Oh that'd be a dream come true.

I can understand another guy's fustration when it comes to dating. Just trying to finds someone is tough. Guys and girls have always been different.

For those of us that are less then appealing in many atributes; there are times when I tend to prefer a 2-D girl.

Some of these comments make me weep. I'm a girl who loves and respct anime in a huge way. And I can say for sure that I know I like it a hell of a lot more than most guys I've ever met, even at anime cons. But to heard that guys would give up 3D girls for their 2D doodles; that's just... wow. I'm honestly amazed and saddened.

Like a lot of people had said there's pros and cons for both sides. But I don't think a 2D picture can cook you any meals or clean up your laundry. 2D girls can't hug you back or kiss you back. They're stationary flat creations of pen and ink. A 3D girl has warmth, talent, emotions, and cooking skills!

I'll vote 3D any day! Though I enjoy 2D girls and boys as much as the next person, maybe even more, there's nothing that can replace a relationship with a real living human. Life is about risk, lessons and adventures. And when people get afraid to do any of that it really has me worried about the future.

And advice to guys... I think your all looking in the wrong places or not looking enough. Look past your built oup standards (based on your animu characters) and see that there are tons of single anime-loving girls out there that are in your same position. My room mate is one of them; She thinks she'll never get a boyfriend because she loves anime so much :(

And addendum: The birth rate decline in Japan... I see it asa good thing. Now if only that would happen in America *laugh*

2D and 3D can live in harmony together. You just need an accepting partner.

I like 2-D girls but...nothing beats the real thing so I have to say I'm 3-D

Indisputably, 2D girls are the pure guy's fantasy... They could be really cute and incredibly sexy ... Nevertheless, real girls are the best.... Who's with me?

More of this absurd talk of people actually preferring a 2d drawing to a real woman. A 2d drawing can succeed by meeting visual expectations and incorporating all the little fetishes one may have, but it goes no further than that. This all points to insecurity problems and social fears, and has nothing to do with someone honestly answering the poll question. Are you telling me these folks REALLY don't want to have the experience of giving yourself to another? Of having someone to confide in, to treat you like a human being. How about eating dinner with each other, discussing all your similar interests and feelings. Is the prospect of failure, getting hurt, getting turned down so powerful that one will isolate themselves from living amongst humans to fulfill fantasy needs? I guess the answer is yes, and it speaks a lot about our society in general and how much pressure there is to fit in and succeed. Life wasn't always like this, and the ever advancing technology and world is making it even harder to cope with.

I guess it doesn't help that many people think that most people of the opposite sex are distrustful and only looking to have sex and then betray them. Of course there are many people in real life who help further this stereotype, but there are also good kind-hearted people in the world in almost equal numbers.

When you limit the boundaries of what reality and your world are, then you can expect this kind of reactionary behavior to an otherwise normal part of life. (relationships in any fashion)

both!

this is so sad. could possibly be an explaination for the ageing population.

aaaah the 2D world, so peaceful

thats a good thing though. teens not having promiscuous (<--i think its spelled wrong)sex is good, cause they are lees likely to get some sex-related disease. as for 3D girls...well, getting dumped hurts but oh well, life is not always fair. so many lose and so few win...but who cares. we all have our own POVs and even if one sticks to 2D forever, the world will still turn.

2D is so ronery. D:

2d>3d. 2d girls have never rejected me, but every 3d girl I've ever asked out has. 2d for life.