割り勘

Wed 2007/10/24 17:12 JST
 96
2596 views

イギリスやアメリカには、食事後、どっちかが払う。しかし日本では殆ど割り勘。

個人的にはどっちでもいい。割り勘でも、全部払いでもいい。しかしたまに全く払いたくないひとがいたりしますね。
ディスカッション2は、あなたはどっちがいいか。

このサイトは元JALのエンジニア、アマゾンのウェブサイトマネージャー、マイクロソフトのプロダクトマネージャーそして現在MIRAI株式会社の社長ダニー・チューが書いているブログです。詳しくは彼のプロフィールでどうぞ。
いつも読んで頂いている方はこの挨拶を永遠に閉じよう^^;

This item was posted in the ジャパン category. You can see more of everything else or subscribe via RSS instead.
English English
-Japan Probe - News from Japan (Subscribe)
-Akihabara News – Gadgetry from Japan (Subscribe)

  • Kyle
    Kyle in Seattle, Washington (Registered on 2007/10/08)
    Student/Part-timer

    Well, taking turns paying for meals is what I prefer, but then there are those people that just never get around to treat you to dinner or something and it just makes me kinda bummed out sometimes...

    Wed 2007/10/24 17:17:59 JST (ID #60808)
    reply to Kyle's comment
    • Sector6
      Sector6 in Singapore (Registered on 2007/05/14)
      student
      http://sector6slumjunkshop.blogspot.com/

      same here; in my group of close friends, we take turns in paying for the dinner:)

      Mon 2008/10/06 20:07:55 JST (ID #325159)
      reply to Sector6's comment
    • tenrou
      tenrou in Honolulu, HI (Registered on 2008/04/16)
      流浪人

      Had a friend who wouldn't pay for meals...so, one day, after the meal, everyone else got up together and left him with the check...he got the hint after that... ^^;

      Mon 2008/10/06 23:14:23 JST (ID #325347)
      reply to tenrou's comment
  • AndyH
    AndyH in Birmingham, UK (Registered on 2006/12/25)
    3D artist
    http://andyh.cgsociety.org

    Ive had too many fiddly experiences trying to split a total bill, especially when its not itemised on the reciept, and one person has a super expensive meal.

    I always prefer to pay individually, but most places would prefer not to do that - especially if youre in a huge group...

    Wed 2007/10/24 17:18:26 JST (ID #60809)
    reply to AndyH's comment
  • lanie-emon
    lanie-emon in Keldabe, Malaysia (Registered on 2007/06/05)
    Mandalorian in training + Otaku...

    I prefer to split the bill...easier that way.

    Wed 2007/10/24 17:30:57 JST (ID #60812)
    reply to lanie-emon's comment
    • Makoto
      Makoto in Centreville, Virginia (Registered on 2008/09/10)
      Kendo Kid / 大学生
      http://makocat.deviantart.com

      It's easier than keeping track of who hasn't paid for the meal yet, but if you don't let the waiter/tress know before hand it'll take longer to find out who ordered what and actually split it. Both have Pros and Cons

      Mon 2008/10/06 21:23:28 JST (ID #325251)
      reply to Makoto's comment
  • AbVag
    AbVag in California, USA (Registered on 2007/09/04)
    Mind Navigator
    http://xenoprobia.blogspot.com

    For me, it's a variable. I have paid separately before. I like doing that as it relieves guilt from all involved. Not that taking turns paying doesn't, but I've been on the "paid for" side of things, my guilt complex is enormous.

    Wed 2007/10/24 17:52:16 JST (ID #60814)
    reply to AbVag's comment
  • lovetanime
    lovetanime in watching anime :P (Registered on 2007/10/23)
    student

    i dont really know myself umm i tend to pay for the whole party everytime i go anywhere (im extremely gullible and well just have a tendancy to do this type of thing almost habit lol)

    :P i usually am the first to pay for the bill and then everyone else starts to be nice all of a sudden and i end up getting all free meals from then on out... weird but then again i do alot of nice things and then people do alot of nice things for me....

    i have this habit of opening doors for people (lots and lots of people like spend 10 min holding a door for an amazingly long line)

    anyway now i walk around.... dontgit i got off topic again lol i have a horrible habit of starting to ramble and well yu get the idea

    Wed 2007/10/24 17:52:18 JST (ID #60815)
    reply to lovetanime's comment
  • Deranged
    Deranged in Loughborough UK (Registered on 2007/02/17)
    Aeronautical Engineer
    http://www.deranged-minds.com/blog/

    Normally, we pay our own unless it is a special occasion like a birthday (where the birthday-ee pays for everything =P )

    Wed 2007/10/24 17:54:28 JST (ID #60816)
    reply to Deranged's comment
  • Tom
    Tom in サウス フロリダ (Registered on 2006/12/25)
    Professional Student

    I go to dinner with my friends all the time, and I much prefer everyone chipping in for one bill. I find it easier that way.

    Wed 2007/10/24 17:56:43 JST (ID #60818)
    reply to Tom's comment
  • Sotb
    Sotb in Malaysia (Registered on 2007/08/22)
    Manufacturing
    http://sotbest.blogspot.com/

    hmmm....It is a norm here for those ppl that go out with frens especially student to paid their own bill!

    Onli if u bring ur GirlFriend or ur discussing a business with some ppl! Then onli we paid all!

    Wed 2007/10/24 18:24:29 JST (ID #60831)
    reply to Sotb's comment
  • syrix
    syrix in U.S. (Registered on 2007/03/21)
    student
    http://animesugoi.animeblogger.net/

    Me and my friends pay separately when we go out to eat. We do that for everything ^^.

    Wed 2007/10/24 18:45:57 JST (ID #60835)
    reply to syrix's comment
  • XSportSeeker
    XSportSeeker in Brazil (Registered on 2007/08/22)
    Dropping computers, starting all over again at Journalism
    http://xspblog.com

    There isn't a rule or norm about that here in Brazil... but usually, when you go out with friends, people pay separately.

    Sometimes when you get invited by someone's family, and you're the only person not from the family, they'll pay the tab for you.

    On someone's birthday, it's on his/her bill, though this is not that much common anymore.

    Sometimes people will also add everything up and split equally, just to make things easier.

    Wed 2007/10/24 19:06:38 JST (ID #60840)
    reply to XSportSeeker's comment
  • Henry
    Henry in /usr/bin/ (Registered on 2006/12/25)
    anime/cosplay events organizer
    http://www.cosplay.ph

    it depends on the occasion and to the group but most of the time we pay separately ^__^

    Wed 2007/10/24 19:13:24 JST (ID #60842)
    reply to Henry's comment
  • Setsuna-san
    Setsuna-san in Selangor, Malaysia (Registered on 2007/07/06)
    VF-25 Pilot. Universariate Scholar.

    when me and my friends go out one of us foots the bill but we will pay for what we had to that person later.

    Wed 2007/10/24 19:43:34 JST (ID #60847)
    reply to Setsuna-san's comment
  • Shin
    Shin in Port Swettenham (Registered on 2007/10/20)
    Aspiring Trap
    http://www.atalude.net/

    Here, everyone goes dutch, unless you're with really close friends or relatives.

    Wed 2007/10/24 20:00:04 JST (ID #60849)
    reply to Shin's comment
  • Nizmo47
    Nizmo47 in マレシア、世界 (Registered on 2007/09/28)
    学生

    Normally it's 'betsu betsu ni' over here, to sit around and wait for someone to pay for your meal would be considered rude. Unless if a guy or gal insist to pay for everyone.

    Wed 2007/10/24 20:27:41 JST (ID #60853)
    reply to Nizmo47's comment
  • squee
    squee in Singapore (Registered on 2007/09/26)
    Techie
    http://squeejunkyard.blogspot.com/

    with my friends, we usually take turns to pick the tab

    Wed 2007/10/24 20:31:43 JST (ID #60855)
    reply to squee's comment
  • D_Blade
    D_Blade in Montreal (Registered on 2006/12/31)
    Non-profit org. volunteering work addict

    I prefer everyone to pay separately.

    Of course when every person has to pay for his/her part, it makes it a bit less convivial and more on the money-conscious side (I pay this, you pay that... This is mine, this is yours, etc.)?
    Separate bills seem to be the ideal to me.

    Thus I like it much better than sharing the bill. Why is that? Because if you have inconsiderate guests, they may eat in excess and you practically end paying more of their part. This unless you have foreign family or friends and that it's a really formal event (like them visiting you, etc.)

    Cold and rational I am, as always.

    Wed 2007/10/24 20:39:19 JST (ID #60857)
    reply to D_Blade's comment
  • D_Blade
    D_Blade in Montreal (Registered on 2006/12/31)
    Non-profit org. volunteering work addict

    *Seem ideal to me

    And I forgot to say it depends on culture too.
    It is funny to see that in the Chinese culture, guests tend to fight to pay the bill. This is something that still surprises me each time I see it.

    Anyway, I don't eat outside except on rare occasions, so it's not really something I should be worried about (still I am aware of those concepts)

    Wed 2007/10/24 20:44:15 JST (ID #60859)
    reply to D_Blade's comment
  • shinchan
    shinchan in Washington/Tokyo (Registered on 2007/09/03)

    Betsu betsu for me

    Wed 2007/10/24 20:50:42 JST (ID #60860)
    reply to shinchan's comment
  • faiyaka
    faiyaka in California (Registered on 2007/10/11)
    Student

    Seperately ftw! Unless of course you're on a date.

    Wed 2007/10/24 21:00:30 JST (ID #60862)
    reply to faiyaka's comment
  • Chuck Gaffney
    Chuck Gaffney in Selden, New York (Registered on 2007/07/28)
    Anime Store Owner, artist, Web master
    http://www.chucksanimeshrine.com

    I guess since I make money from my own company instead of begging for it from a boss, I tend to pay the bill ~_~

    Wed 2007/10/24 21:15:03 JST (ID #60867)
    reply to Chuck Gaffney's comment
  • Briant
    Briant in USA (Registered on 2007/08/04)
    Student

    When with my family, we pay the whole thing. With my friends, it's separate. Guess it's cause our family "shares" the money, and my friends and I obviously don't.

    Wed 2007/10/24 21:57:22 JST (ID #60874)
    reply to Briant's comment
  • Edward
    Edward in SE Michigan/Osaka (Registered on 2006/12/24)
    Troubleshooter, Universal Exports
    http://funkyblueame.tumblr.com/

    At one time I always liked everyone paying for their own. Unless it was a special occasion or such, then I take care of the bill.

    Now, it depends on who I'm with. I have a couple of colleagues that I often go out with and we take turns picking up the bill. I usually pay for my boss and I, even thought she makes more than I do. ^^; Of course I still pay for special occasions and such.

    Thinking about it now, I still like the everyone pay for their own meal. Usually it's more fun since the group loses the free loaders and boring people. Interesting how the boring people never want to pay the bill...

    Wed 2007/10/24 21:59:40 JST (ID #60875)
    reply to Edward's comment
  • gordon
    gordon in 新加坡 Singapore (Registered on 2007/06/11)
    銀河帝国五〇一軍团 TK/TD 8316 M.E.P.D. Police Sergeant
    http://gordonator.com/

    depends on where my friends and i dine.

    if we dine in a restaurant, one of us (usually the host) will pay first. after we left, we will divide the bill among ourselves and pay back the host.

    if we dine at a food court, we will buy our food individually ourselves.

    Wed 2007/10/24 23:03:26 JST (ID #60879)
    reply to gordon's comment
  • DRAGUN
    DRAGUN in Arizona, USA (Registered on 2007/08/22)
    Design Consultant

    See, I really dont care. If I am out with friends, I will just pick up the bill and start to pay. People generally throw some money in if they think they should, and sometimes I accept that. Now, if you are out with a woman, I was raised (Grandfather) that you ALWAYS pay for the bill. My girlfriend fights me all the time on this, so we came up with a cool game for it. It was that or throw money at the waiters when they got into range.

    Wed 2007/10/24 23:53:16 JST (ID #60887)
    reply to DRAGUN's comment
  • oliphant
    oliphant in Sydney (Registered on 2007/01/10)
    Design Student
    http://totoro88.vox.com

    Paying separately is more convenient, but is a nice feeling when you're treated, or you treat someone, you know?

    For Chinese, its considered rude if you're not verbally and physically fighting to pay the bill and attempting to stuff bank notes into the other person's pockets-- or forcing it into their children's hands.

    Wed 2007/10/24 23:58:26 JST (ID #60888)
    reply to oliphant's comment
  • Kururu_luva
    Kururu_luva in Richmond, BC Canada (Registered on 2007/01/20)

    If I got out eating with friends, I'll always prefer paying separately when ever possible. I just dislike the process of sorting out who is paying who, how much is each person going to have to pay, and etc....

    Wed 2007/10/24 23:59:12 JST (ID #60889)
    reply to Kururu_luva's comment
  • CyruzDraxs
    CyruzDraxs in Kelowna, BC, Canada (Registered on 2007/09/11)
    Web Design & Development
    http://www.nerdculture.org

    I'm that freeloader that everyone hates. :P

    Thu 2007/10/25 00:39:49 JST (ID #60897)
    reply to CyruzDraxs's comment
  • DRAGUN
    DRAGUN in Arizona, USA (Registered on 2007/08/22)
    Design Consultant

    CyruzDraxs, I hate you. Lol... no, seriously.... maybe.

    Thu 2007/10/25 00:47:42 JST (ID #60900)
    reply to DRAGUN's comment
  • JaydenM
    JaydenM in Holland (Registered on 2007/09/12)
    sleepyhead

    When i got out to dinner with my friends, we actually fight over the bill.
    Fight over who gets to pay it...because all of us want to pay.
    ^_^

    I only go to dinner with my best friends, so i don't mind paying for them and vice versa

    Thu 2007/10/25 01:00:00 JST (ID #60903)
    reply to JaydenM's comment
  • don
    don in Minnesota USA (Registered on 2007/10/22)
    Engineering Student

    As people have said before, Chinese people fight to pay the bill quite often. One time one of my aunts secretly when up and told a waitress that another guest (forget who) often paid with counterfeit money. The guest was wondering why the waiter insisted on the aunt paying for it. He wasn't too happy about the explanation lol.

    A couple times people go up to pay for the group before they come with the bill. I think it is just considered polite to offer to pay for the bill, and when like old friends meet again they feel better if they pay. Never seen people fight so much over paying the bill in the US.

    Thu 2007/10/25 01:04:21 JST (ID #60904)
    reply to don's comment
    • 鬼モンスター
      鬼モンスター in USA、CA、Monsterey (Registered on 2008/09/01)

      Fighting over the tab was pretty fun. At least until the guys started getting too tipsy and wanted to duke it out.

      Tue 2008/10/07 07:49:47 JST (ID #325834)
      reply to 鬼モンスター's comment
  • 0shift
    0shift in New Zealand (Registered on 2007/08/13)
    Student

    I usually split the bill(I eat to much). Unless its a date, then i pay all.

    Thu 2007/10/25 02:28:18 JST (ID #60911)
    reply to 0shift's comment
  • hendrik
    hendrik in jakarta,indonesia (Registered on 2007/05/31)
    student

    usually pay seperately, except on my birthday, i rarely eat with my friend. kinda find alone is more convenient when walking outside. weird me -_-

    Thu 2007/10/25 02:56:47 JST (ID #60915)
    reply to hendrik's comment
  • Izam215
    Izam215 in Putrajaya, Malaysia (Registered on 2007/09/12)
    Govt. Officer

    i prefer party paying rotation when i got the money..but sometime if ur frens want to pay for it..it is more than welcome.. ;-P but its better with party paying, as long as the same party members are in it...

    Thu 2007/10/25 04:01:13 JST (ID #60917)
    reply to Izam215's comment
  • Alafista OTAKU
    Alafista OTAKU in Singapore (Registered on 2006/12/25)
    Policy & Research Officer
    http://www.alafista.com/

    Yeah "Betsu betsu ni onegaishimasu" was one of the few first phrases I learnt when I was taking Japanese classes. During that time I was like this is really interesting that when paying you can ask for separate bills

    Thu 2007/10/25 04:48:28 JST (ID #60919)
    reply to Alafista OTAKU's comment
  • Elozt E. Elric
    Elozt E. Elric in Singapore (Registered on 2007/08/12)
    Engineer / IT Student
    http://elozt.wordpress.com/

    One lesson I learned from paying for everyone, it may burn a huge hole in your wallet. It'll have to depend on the kind occasion tho.

    Thu 2007/10/25 05:18:31 JST (ID #60923)
    reply to Elozt E. Elric's comment
  • GundamJehutyKai
    GundamJehutyKai in Foundation II Stellvia (Registered on 2007/09/12)
    Service desk support
    http://lookingglass.kokidokom.net

    same as 0shift,

    I split the bill with my mates when we go out. If it's a date, then etiquette dictates that I will pay for the lot.

    Thu 2007/10/25 05:58:00 JST (ID #60929)
    reply to GundamJehutyKai's comment
  • Joshua
    Joshua in singapore (Registered on 2007/08/26)
    student
    http://jk-pictureaweek.blogspot.com/

    i like the idea... in singapore esp .. when we are still students. we will split it up but after 1 person pays the full bill and the rest return it to him... there are many problems this way like the person paying first lose money as the price in the menu does not include GST and sevice charge. which will go up to 17%.

    Thu 2007/10/25 08:42:16 JST (ID #60950)
    reply to Joshua's comment
  • OMNI Strike
    OMNI Strike in Glasgow, UK (Registered on 2006/12/24)
    Aero-mechanical engineering student

    When me and my friends go out we usually just pay together by splitting up the total between us, but thats aslong as we are having buffet. If someone wants to eat seperately then they can but they will have to pay for their own food. It works out fairly in the end.

    Thu 2007/10/25 09:09:28 JST (ID #60954)
    reply to OMNI Strike's comment
  • Ryori no tetsujin
    Ryori no tetsujin in US (Registered on 2007/09/05)
    Software Support

    Always pay seperately.... but sometime... which happens quite often with some of my coworker, when we go to lunch, ALWAYS short on the amount... ALWAYS paid their meal without including the tax and tips... grrrr..... @_@

    Thu 2007/10/25 11:52:39 JST (ID #60968)
    reply to Ryori no tetsujin's comment
  • BeLe
    BeLe in Davao, Philippines (Registered on 2007/01/03)
    .NET/Web Developer
    http://scrumptious.animeblogger.net

    Here it's usually just one bill for the entire table but we always pay for what we had separately and someone just collects it. Troublesome for the one who collects our payment though since he/she will be dealing with the problem of giving change to each one of us. ^^

    Thu 2007/10/25 14:57:30 JST (ID #60981)
    reply to BeLe's comment
  • TOKYOnight
    TOKYOnight in Moe moe kyun~ (Registered on 2007/01/04)
    Web Developer

    In here, we stay in flats. I always go eat with my flat friends every time, so we split the bill, and the restaurant usually wont mind if we pay the bill separately and give change to each person ^^

    Thu 2007/10/25 19:20:36 JST (ID #61021)
    reply to TOKYOnight's comment
  • WoLF-[x]
    WoLF-[x] in Malaysia (Registered on 2007/01/15)
    IT Consultant

    If its a daily thing like lunch with colleagues, usually we'd split the bill equally regardless of what we eat. If its an evening out with friends, usually we "go Dutch" that is to pay for what you eat with added tax/tips to the amount.

    If its a date with a hot girl, then of course you'd treat her. ;)

    Thu 2007/10/25 20:11:23 JST (ID #61027)
    reply to WoLF-[x]'s comment
  • R.E. Silvera
    R.E. Silvera in Dublin, Ireland (Registered on 2007/08/01)
    QA Engineer, Postgraduate Student
    http://www.thelifeeffect.net

    Here in Dublin, it's exactly the same. Most places ask you "Pay together or separate?"

    Some restaurants don't do that with larger parties, say more than 4 people or something. If they do, it's generally written somewhere visible on the menu.

    Fri 2007/10/26 05:13:48 JST (ID #61055)
    reply to R.E. Silvera's comment
  • terry
    terry in Singapore (Registered on 2007/08/02)
    =.=!
    http://hihi123.wordpress.com

    i would normally pay in just one bill to avoid the mess it might caused during the process..

    Sun 2007/10/28 08:58:33 JST (ID #61262)
    reply to terry's comment
  • rainboy
    rainboy in Singapore (Registered on 2008/02/14)
    Web Designer
    http://www.hyperactive82.com

    I would prefer to pay separate unless its with close friends. It usually very troublesome to collect back the $$ and i have met people who just act dumb.

    Wed 2008/08/13 16:28:19 JST (ID #264739)
    reply to rainboy's comment
  • Riiana Doon
    Riiana Doon in US (Registered on 2008/07/23)
    Working Otaku mom
    http://riianadoon.blogspot.com

    I like paying seperately myself unless the person I am with insists on going half and half or something like that, I think it's more fair to all parties involved to pay seperately because then you only pay for what you bought.:D Btw Danny, glad to see you feeling a bit better.:D

    Wed 2008/08/13 23:55:53 JST (ID #264999)
    reply to Riiana Doon's comment
  • Yaku
    Yaku in Chinatown, Los Angeles, USA (Registered on 2008/08/27)
    Student, part-time slave
    http://yakuri.wordpress.com/

    Half and half. Sometimes it's nice when another person treats you, but I would never take advantage of that. Who the heck is such a shameless cheap skate who won't even pay for the food they put in their mouth?

    Fri 2008/09/19 08:27:03 JST (ID #306713)
    reply to Yaku's comment
  • sayagila
    sayagila in melbourne, jakarta, denpasar (Registered on 2008/08/18)
    just another something else
    http://the7sinner.wordpress.com/

    if we cant split the bill, we usually let someone pay for it and afterwards we'll pay him what we owe him. (anyone will volunteer for it, cause we always pay for it)

    Mon 2008/10/06 19:29:42 JST (ID #325097)
    reply to sayagila's comment
  • Ernest the 5th
    Ernest the 5th in San Bernardino, CA (Registered on 2007/11/07)
    Help Desk Support (IT)

    Yeah, cheap dead-beats are never fun. I don't mind being treated and on occasion I'll cover someone's meal just because. But I generally prefer to pay separately.

    Mon 2008/10/06 19:29:47 JST (ID #325098)
    reply to Ernest the 5th's comment
  • technonewt
    technonewt in Southern Oregon, United States (Registered on 2007/11/02)
    College Student
    http://nategreene.wordpress.com/

    It all depends who I'm with. Sometimes if I'm not paying for the whole bill, I'll leave the tip.

    Mon 2008/10/06 19:39:49 JST (ID #325116)
    reply to technonewt's comment
  • Kiseki
    Kiseki in Germany (Registered on 2008/10/06)
    student

    In Hong kong everybody always want to pay the bill, it was ill mannered if you dont want to pay i think. But it depends on the people you are eating with, if they are close friends I would pay the bill.

    Mon 2008/10/06 20:05:16 JST (ID #325156)
    reply to Kiseki's comment
  • GNdynames
    GNdynames in Toronto, Ontario (Registered on 2008/07/29)
    Student, Bioresearch Assistant, WAVE VP Communications
    http://gndynames.wordpress.com

    When my friends and I go somewhere it's either we split or some cheapskate "forgets" to bring money and the rest ends up having to cough up extra. When a girl is with us the guys just pay extra to cover for the girl. Cases where one person pays for the rest always ends up with me paying, gah.

    Mon 2008/10/06 20:06:12 JST (ID #325157)
    reply to GNdynames's comment
  • lerry[maru]
    lerry[maru] in Kuala Lumpur, MY (Registered on 2008/09/14)
    Nekophilia

    I'm not earning my own money ^^ Still a secondary student. So I don't have lots of money to spend and that means I have to SAVE to buy stuff I want. That's probably why I usually pay separately when I eat out with my friends.
    Even if I start to work, I might just learn the value of hard-earned money more... and even refrain from wasting money eating out lol.

    Mon 2008/10/06 20:27:17 JST (ID #325198)
    reply to lerry[maru]'s comment
    • GNdynames
      GNdynames in Toronto, Ontario (Registered on 2008/07/29)
      Student, Bioresearch Assistant, WAVE VP Communications
      http://gndynames.wordpress.com

      Trust me, not going to happen. You'd just realize that you'll now be having disposable income for otaku goods.

      Mon 2008/10/06 21:17:13 JST (ID #325247)
      reply to GNdynames's comment
  • auroragb
    auroragb (Registered on 2008/09/29)

    I think that it's much more of an issue in Japan because there are more social situations where one would have to eat with people they're not familiar with. Afterwork social obligations (drinks, karaoke, repeat...), Go-kon, etc dominate J-social compared to western people tend to socialize mostly with their friends.

    Mon 2008/10/06 20:53:27 JST (ID #325226)
    reply to auroragb's comment
  • Grass Jelly
    Grass Jelly in S.California (Registered on 2008/07/26)
    Pirate

    Well... in the US, if there is a visitor (or if you are meeting a friend you haven't seen in a good while) there is a very good chance someone will fight to pick up the bill. The same is true if you are eating with co-workers or for business purposes. However, if you are eating with friends you see day in and day out, it is very common to see people split the bill.

    Mon 2008/10/06 22:07:30 JST (ID #325280)
    reply to Grass Jelly's comment
  • miso_hungry
    miso_hungry in Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada (Registered on 2008/08/18)
    University Student
    http://boodehototdaily.blogspot.com/

    Generally we split the bill depending on what we ate ourselves. However, sometimes one of us will pay the whole bill since it's easier then splitting the bill equally on 3 different credit cards. In the end we assume since we eat out together it equals out in the end because next time someone will cover the whole bill. Western style restaurants are generally easier to split the bill. Chinese restaurants it's always too much of a hassle if we're all paying by credit card.

    Mon 2008/10/06 22:19:10 JST (ID #325291)
    reply to miso_hungry's comment
  • onnichan84
    onnichan84 in NY (Registered on 2008/03/10)

    I feel if everybody eats about the same price dishes and drinks then it's fine to split it evenly. If on the other hand I have a hamburger and my friend has a steak then it would definitely be Betsu Betsu desu nipa~!

    Mon 2008/10/06 22:47:06 JST (ID #325325)
    reply to onnichan84's comment
  • thefrikking
    thefrikking in Spain (Registered on 2007/08/18)
    Ork Warlord

    It depends, but normally one pay his/her meal in my group

    Mon 2008/10/06 23:08:29 JST (ID #325339)
    reply to thefrikking's comment
  • Harts
    Harts in Estonia (Registered on 2008/06/02)
    Student

    Usually pay separatly

    Mon 2008/10/06 23:13:32 JST (ID #325346)
    reply to Harts's comment
  • usually if I am with people I trust like family and close friends, we will all chip in and pay.
    usually ,I like to pay seperately though

    Tue 2008/10/07 00:48:51 JST (ID #325407)
    reply to Navy_Recruit_LT's comment
  • mario
    mario in Baltimore (Registered on 2008/09/23)
    Photography, Videography

    I've never had one party pay the whole bill, everyone either puts in what they had or the total is divided by the number of people at the table (that actually makes a lot of people unhappy unless they know each other well.)

    Maybe this is just a thing in Maryland.

    Tue 2008/10/07 00:53:32 JST (ID #325420)
    reply to mario's comment
    • England Al
      England Al in England, UK (Registered on 2008/07/13)
      All round good guy and musician

      I've often been in groups where we divide the bill evenly between the whole group. We rarely have enough small change so we each round up the cost, and the remainder is the tip. Sorted!

      Tue 2008/10/07 02:40:13 JST (ID #325511)
      reply to England Al's comment
  • Tami
    Tami in Germany - Düsseldorf (Registered on 2007/12/16)
    IT-Architect, SysAdmin, WebDesign and Coding, Virtualization (VMware + NetApp)
    http://www.milkdrop.de/

    Guess germany is just like Japan in that case.

    When my friends and me went to eat in a restaurant all fancy and stuff - mo matter if a sushi restaurant or normal german one - we were asked if someone pays it all or seperated.

    Usualy we all went for seperated UNLESS someone had birthday, then the one who had birthday paid - but of course got a load of presents anyhow so yea. ;)

    Tue 2008/10/07 02:40:23 JST (ID #325512)
    reply to Tami's comment
  • Minaru Chou
    Minaru Chou in Philippines (Registered on 2008/09/25)
    Programmer Trainee
    http://jointsareokay.blogspot.com

    It depends.

    In big fancy places I have never seen anyone do that, or done it myself.

    In those fast food joints or bookstores I can request for it.

    I like to pay separately but if we can't do the math we just half it or something

    Tue 2008/10/07 03:54:58 JST (ID #325586)
    reply to Minaru Chou's comment
  • afatcow
    afatcow (Registered on 2008/08/28)
    http://thetruemelody.wordpress.com/

    It really depends on the situation, I guess...
    If it's a sorta family dinner, or something a bit more formal, we'd have those arguments about who's going to pay the bill (each party WANTS to pay for it, mind you)
    But if it's just me and my friends, we just split it (everybody chips what they bought)

    Tue 2008/10/07 05:21:52 JST (ID #325656)
    reply to afatcow's comment
  • Pokey
    Pokey in Magic Poking Stick Land (Registered on 2008/09/11)
    Poke People with
    http://old-school-rpgs.blogspot.com/

    I much prefer that each person pay for their meal. Even in North America when out as a group we ask for separate bills. If it's a business meal where someone will be writing everything off on their taxes, then I can see it being worthwhile for one person to pick up the tab.

    Tue 2008/10/07 05:25:14 JST (ID #325658)
    reply to Pokey's comment
  • In Hot / Off Safe
    In Hot / Off Safe in Tokyo (Registered on 2008/04/24)
    High Tech Exec

    .
    What's REALLY unique is that when you date Japanese girls they'll offer to pay half - meals, movies, DisneySea, etc. That threw me at first but now I think it's their way of keeping control. If they pay their half, they don't "owe" anyone anything - and staying the night is their choice, not debt. Offer to pay for dinner, when she says it's not fair, tell her that if she feels badly she can buy breakfast. When she laughs, have a great night.

    Tue 2008/10/07 07:12:09 JST (ID #325765)
    reply to In Hot / Off Safe's comment
  • spidr245
    spidr245 in Everywhere, Anywhere, and sometimes There too (Registered on 2008/08/25)
    Ninja / Engineer / Sensei / 魔法少女 (What!?! I can't be, I'm a guy...)

    Hmm...usually depends on the situation I guess. But most of the time, it is split it to make things simple for everyone.

    Tue 2008/10/07 07:35:47 JST (ID #325815)
    reply to spidr245's comment
  • Dcg
    Dcg in Berkeley, CA (Registered on 2007/12/17)
    College Student

    With relatives and sometimes close asian friends, there's kind of a fight to see who pays the bill. With normal friends and unknowns, everything's split kind of even-ish.

    Tue 2008/10/07 08:05:42 JST (ID #325861)
    reply to Dcg's comment
  • Ninja Poe Bear
    Ninja Poe Bear in California (Registered on 2008/07/10)
    Studio Bleach founder/owner
    http://myspace.com/studiobleach

    So they go dutch, huh? Nice. I tend to prefer having a separate bill when I go with friends, and just pay when I am on a date.

    Man... Now I am wishing I could live there. X3

    Tue 2008/10/07 08:11:56 JST (ID #325867)
    reply to Ninja Poe Bear's comment
  • suki
    suki in Cape Town, South Africa (Registered on 2007/08/22)
    Graphic Design student | Receptionist | Otaku
    http://sukidesho.blogspot.com/

    It's better to pay separately, I think.
    This way, you can ensure that everyone pays and for those who can't, it's easier to help them when you know they need help (instead of surprises XD).

    Tue 2008/10/07 10:26:18 JST (ID #326028)
    reply to suki's comment
  • R-1
    R-1 in a happy place. (Registered on 2007/07/05)
    Overman
    http://myplasticmoustache.blogspot.com/

    Depends on which "friends" I'm with at the time. Usually it's "dutch-treat".

    Tue 2008/10/07 10:37:10 JST (ID #326039)
    reply to R-1's comment
  • rishidan
    rishidan in SoCal (Registered on 2008/05/26)
    Head Lackey and Scape Goat

    If you want to split the bill then just divide the total by the number of people; I've been doing it this way for years and it's much, MUCH easier.

    For the guys who whine or intentionally get the lobster, covertly short the check and have everyone else make some excuse to leave quickly so they're responsible to pay the balance at the register. They usually get the message pretty quickly and either get w/ the program or cease going along.

    Tue 2008/10/07 10:58:04 JST (ID #326073)
    reply to rishidan's comment
  • Jialu
    Jialu in London (Registered on 2008/09/24)
    Student, Wannabe Otaku

    My friends will never agree, because I highly doubt they will pay for my share, since I just eat WAY too much.

    Tue 2008/10/07 15:59:58 JST (ID #326317)
    reply to Jialu's comment
  • JooNkeN
    JooNkeN (Registered on 2008/04/04)
    http://pantsukudasai.deviantart.com/

    Having worked at several restaurants as a waiter and cashier, I personally believe that it's a hassle and creates more work for the waiters/cashiers if you pay separately.
    At times, it's down right frustrating that they want to pay separately; a perfect example would be if they all got the exact same thing and the total would be the same for each of them. A huge party of 8+ ordering their food individually, and then at the last minute, they say, "Oh, could we get separate checks?" down right pisses me off. If they have mentioned first hand that they wanted to pay separately, we could have rung up all the orders as such. So, if you're going to pay separately amongst your friends, the least you could do is mention it before ordering. If possible, skip paying separately in its entirety.
    -
    My best friend's mother is a waitress at a restaurant, so he knows it's ups and downs as well.
    So, whenever my friends and I go out and eat, what we do is; one person pays for everything, be it a credit card or cash, and we do the math on who pays for what ourselves. No need to be a penny pincher, we usually estimate around ~$2 or so and we're satisfied, including tips of course.
    -
    These comments are of my personal experiences and views, and I'm not saying what's right, wrong, better or worse. Also, I live in California USA, so there may be cultural differences to be noted.

    Tue 2008/10/07 16:48:10 JST (ID #326325)
    reply to JooNkeN's comment
    • rishidan
      rishidan in SoCal (Registered on 2008/05/26)
      Head Lackey and Scape Goat

      Then the easiest way around that hassle is for everyone to ask for separate checks BEFORE ordering.

      Wed 2008/10/08 08:35:10 JST (ID #327024)
      reply to rishidan's comment
  • phossil
    phossil in Guatemala City (Registered on 2008/07/22)
    http://twitter.com/phossil
    http://www.animoe.net

    I prefer to take turns when paying the bill, but sometimes you can see (and its seems as usual) paying only what you order. I think it depends of how much the bill is (and if you can afford it).

    Tue 2008/10/07 18:22:21 JST (ID #326422)
    reply to phossil's comment
  • BeLe
    BeLe in Davao, Philippines (Registered on 2007/01/03)
    .NET/Web Developer
    http://scrumptious.animeblogger.net

    Here, me and my friends usually have one person pay the bill and we just pay that person for whatever the cost of our meal was. Sorta like paying separately and paying as one at the same time. heheh! ^^

    Tue 2008/10/07 20:07:18 JST (ID #326531)
    reply to BeLe's comment
  • lostandfound
    lostandfound in Singapore (Registered on 2007/10/21)
    Hikikomori in the making
    http://supermariabros.deviantart.com/

    Since I'm a poor Singaporean student, I usually pay only for my part... But sometimes we all pitch in to pay when one person doesn't have enough money to pay for his meal...

    Tue 2008/10/07 20:08:13 JST (ID #326532)
    reply to lostandfound's comment
  • Bakarazuka
    Bakarazuka in Italy (Registered on 2007/12/01)
    Journalist

    in my country, italy, when a person pay separatley we say "Alla romana". Paghiamo alla romana? We pay at romans way (sorry for bad translation)

    Tue 2008/10/07 23:48:46 JST (ID #326682)
    reply to Bakarazuka's comment
  • Meimi132
    Meimi132 in Stuck in the void between the net life and real life. (Registered on 2007/12/03)
    Student, Otaku, She-Geek(Sheek lol)
    http://meimi132.wordpress.com/

    Normally when I've been out with my friends we pay seperately, like after we've been to Wagamama's, we get the bill and fork over the amount for what we had. Tis better that way I think.
    But for drinks usually the guys buy the first rounds, then maybe if we're there long enough girls pay for them too.

    Wed 2008/10/08 00:04:27 JST (ID #326690)
    reply to Meimi132's comment
  • manga
    manga in Sydney (Registered on 2008/06/27)
    Student
    http://bk201.wordpress.com/

    Chinese Culture- I pay for everything lah and I will fight for it even if you don't want me to pay for it.
    I really cringe when my parents do this. I don't know if my group of friends would do this but for the mean time, warikan is the way we go.

    Wed 2008/10/08 00:57:57 JST (ID #326714)
    reply to manga's comment
  • Quentin aka Q
    Quentin aka Q in Varies (Hong Kong resident) (Registered on 2008/01/06)
    http://quentinlau.blogspot.com

    For very close friends we pay in turns, otherwise we split up the bill or pay together for the meal.

    Wed 2008/10/08 01:53:12 JST (ID #326737)
    reply to Quentin aka Q's comment
  • Nec
    Nec in MN, U.S. (Registered on 2008/04/03)
    Student

    I met some people online who live in a place where it is demanded that if you are in a group at a pub, you must take turns buying rounds for the whole table. When I brought up the concept of paying separately, they lauded the idea and insulted my ridiculous American ways, saying it was incredibly selfish and rude. Even though they have no qualms about paying separately when liquor is not involved....

    Wed 2008/10/08 05:02:59 JST (ID #326857)
    reply to Nec's comment
  • Akari
    Akari in Vancouver/Burnaby, Canada (Registered on 2008/06/15)
    http://akari-nyan.deviantart.com/

    friends argue over who should pay the bill...[we're all too modest...=.='' It's like "I'll pay for it", "No need, I'll pay for it!" etc...]

    Wed 2008/10/08 05:28:17 JST (ID #326877)
    reply to Akari's comment
  • Marchand de sable
    Marchand de sable (Registered on 2008/10/08)
    Student/ Future Doctor .

    Here the most common and the better for my taste is everyone pays his/her part.

    Wed 2008/10/08 10:05:53 JST (ID #327132)
    reply to Marchand de sable's comment
  • wgold
    wgold in Tokyo 東京 (Registered on 2008/07/16)
    video editor
    http://akibatoday.com/

    I like how in Japan there is no tip and paying separately is quite normal. It leaves out the hassle and saves time. The girls however always expect you to pay ^^

    Wed 2008/10/08 15:22:00 JST (ID #327359)
    reply to wgold's comment
  • nightmarejan
    nightmarejan in the absence of light (Registered on 2009/05/14)
    Graphic Design student/Pest-ridden Jackal of the Earth
    http://kriegtherion.deveiantart.com

    split the bill.

    Tue 2009/07/07 05:47:03 JST (ID #669055)
    reply to nightmarejan's comment

Currently being read