iPhone TV

OK, so it looks like the iPhone is not doing very well in Japan after all. There was a load of hype causing me to beleive the naysayers were wrong but they were probably right. I see iPhones available over here in abundance and it looks like nobody is touching them.
One of the reasons it seems is that that the iPhone does not come with the ability to watch TV - a function that most Japanese phones have.
The carrier and supplier of the iPhone in Japan is Softbank and they have just announced an ingenious (?) device to allow iPhone users to watch TV.
The top photo shows what Softbank are calling the "TV and Battery" attached to the iPhone. The unit receives a One Seg TV signal which is relayed to the iPhone. An App to allow viewing TV on the iPhone will be available for a free download via the App store. As the naming suggests, the unit also provides extra battery life - another thing that iPhone users often complain about.
The description at Impress also mentions that the TV Battery unit can be placed in a separate location and have the TV signal beamed to the iPhone.
The unit is 50×85×16mm and weights about 80g. Cost is expected to be about 10,000 yen.
Releasing a unit like this is probably bad publicity enhancing what the iPhone *cant* do. Would rather have a mouthful of the dried stuff that one may find around a baboons bottom hole.
Via Akihabara News and Impress.
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IT-Architect, SysAdmin, WebDesign and Coding, Virtualization (VMware + NetApp)
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It's sorta sad to read this...
However, i'm glad with my iPod Touch. ^^
For phone calls i will always stick to a normal cell phone - my major reason is just the battery life... i would be without a phone permanently due listening to music non-stop on the road if i had an iPohne. ;)
IT-Architect, SysAdmin, WebDesign and Coding, Virtualization (VMware + NetApp)
http://www.milkdrop.de/
orz... iPhone! :(
*waits for the edit button to magicaly appear*
The sad thing is that things like that will never be released outside of Japan.
Student
http://marianto.deviantart.com/
Seems really troublesome to me. Having to carry two devices at any one time. Do not want.
student
http://zephi-san.deviantart.com/
Top picture, it's become a wii remote.
Fail, how can they leave that out... That TV & battery thing is small but who wants to carry that extra thing around anyway...
Graphic Design student | Receptionist | Otaku
http://sukidesho.blogspot.com/
It's times like these that I'm glad I am not an Apple fan >__>
I'm sure that for others the iPhone is good but, it seemed to promise so little from the beginning, IMHO.
occuwhat?
Is tv that important? In the Iphone one can see whatever they want, why stuck with television?
大学生
Japan is too advance for the world. Nobody watches TV on their mobiles except Japan!!
Pirate
To be honest, I think the problem is a cultural one.... no one wants to watch television on a 200x200 screen except for the Japanese. >_<
Wannabe Jack-of-all-trades
http://h8gwb.deviantart.com
YOU would, if you just realized your show was on and was nowhere near an unattended TV.
大学生
Yeah I would too. Very good to kill time while traveling or just to catch up on daily news.
I've got a Japanese keitai but no 1seg in Singapore.. *bleah*
Student
I don't watch tv that much in home, so why would I want to watch it from my phone, also I would never buy iphone cos it got no keyboard.
Magical Maid Girlfriend
The iphone has a qwerty keyboard but its not external. Its a multi touch display software? I dont know if that's the correct way to say it...
Student
http://www.joesblog.jp
do not want. i've got an ipod touch which i quite like to use but apple have started to really annoy me, constantly breaking other media players ipod support so i have to use rubbish iTunes. whyyyy! no FLAC support annoys me too...
http://elmimmo.wordpress.com
Nah, the main problem IMHO is not it lacks features. It just is not adding any compelling one to Japanese users (for non-JP ones being internet and e-mail). It is not that they dislike it. They simply do not care enough.
CG映像専門学生
http://slyphnier.atelier-freya.net/
i can't say much regarding iphone sales in japan,
but i can say iphone is really nice phone to have, reason is iphone touch screen is better than other touch screen gadget so far, you can easily browing over internet sites ... etc etc.
From what i see why iphone not doing good sales in japan is :
1. Lots japanese people browse mobile internet sites, even some browse more on their mobile then their pc, while some other don't home pc on their home, so mobile just like pc to them.
2. People in japan used to browse mobile sites and iphone can't browse them... thus making them think over to use iphone
3. People in japan already had ipod, so no reason to get iphone that have ipod function.
4. Because needed to use itunes for downloading application etc... this make people especially the one that don't have pc won't get iphone, also people with limited knowledge of pc will think over before using iphone because, such registration, application install might can be difficult for person don't know much about pc.
5. And the biggest things is, capability that japanese mobile have is advanced enough to be compared to iphone, while mobile is us (i don't know much though) but it seems iphone should be more advanced that standard phone.
thats why the necessary buying iphone for extra capability become none, as other mobile already give almost same capability
6. (this also possibility) Iphone didn't include extra thick manual book that usually you get from buying new mobile phone and they don't know what to do after they buy it
Regarding capability watching TV on their mobiles, i don't see that much people like to watch tv on their mobile, even there are some like to use it.
conclusion: iphone that needed pc and basic knowledge of pc usage limit the iphone sales. ^-^ just my 2cents
for me the only minus things in iphone is battery lifetime...anyway i am happy with my iphone
Hikikomori in the making
http://supermariabros.deviantart.com/
Hah! I don;t even own a mobile phone LOL
Mad scientist
Mine broke a few years ago and I couldn't figure out which one to buy instead so I just didn't buy one. It's actually nice that once you leave home, you really will be out of touch with everything and be on your own.
However I bought a new one a few months ago (finally found one that's designed for what a phone is supposed to do: make a call and little else). So now instead of a broken phone, I have a phone that's turned off most of the time :P
Art/Media
http://sgallen.wordpress.com/
My phone never have life because battery is always dead. I don't have anyone calling me either because everyone around me is always busy haha.
The only time it was useful when I was at uni, working in groups couldn't be easier. Phones, great way to communicate with people out of reach ^^
Student
http://konadora.wordpress.com
A pretty innovative solution.. but I don't think anyone would want something extra dangling on to his already bulky iPhone. Would look pretty wierd when it's connected to your iPhone while you're making a call or texting. Not to mention the cost is kind of high for an add-on feature that SHOULD have been integrated into the iPhone itself.
browsing the nets
http://otakuposts.blogspot.com/
The iphone is struggling here in india too because of its high price. i keep getting sms from my phone co telling that its available on easy emi now too. but being more costly than a new pc or almost equal in price of a new 32inch lcd tv i think no one is biting the bait.
the last line about the baboon was too gross. yuk. almost spit out some apple juice i was drinking.
Student, Gamer
http://slackogamer.blogspot.com
Yuck !!! I might as well get a nice plasma TV than this. Right Danny ?
http://www.flickr.com/photos/aseps/
i prefer the ipod touch, wheres u can listen music and video. i use my mobile phone just for mails and calls.
Mad scientist
I never understood the need to watch movies/TV on such a small screen. It got to hurt the eyes or at least cause eye problems in the long run. However I *might* use it for news and then just listen to it unless it's something interesting.
I guess this will be integrated into the phone eventually. I just wonder how they got the TV signal into that small box. Here we need huge antennas to catch TV signals >.<
Informatics(ComSci-ish) student/self-taught graphic designer and illustrator
http://picchar.cerestia.net
I would rather get an iPod Touch than an iPhone XD
Webdev, internet contents, music
http://www.pepinismo.net/
Do not want at all. I'm all for retro, but TV isn't one of *my* retro thingies.
university film student | ecchikid | the Archivist
http://www.vimeo.com/longhim
I was wondering about that - you pointed out the iPhone's simplicity may be a good or a bad thing at launch, and I guess we know the answer to that now.
Me, I'm still using an old phone from 3 years ago without even Bluetooth capability. Don't really plan on getting an iPhone since I don't feel like paying for a data plan...and my 'Net addiction is bad enough as it is. Certainly not because of a lack of features though.
College Student
I think that the Iphone Tv will do well in America, but Japanese phones were already better than the Iphone!!!
Service desk support
http://lookingglass.kokidokom.net
The iPhone isn't really designed for the Japanese market when you think about it.
I found that Japanese phones are usually packed with the latest tech and features just to keep up with the crowd.
Contrast to the iPhone, which has many things cut out as El Jobso is more about form rather than function and you realize that the iPhone is made with a mindset which is the opposite of regular Japanese phone designers.
That, and the thing crashes more often than windows ME...
anime junky :3
http://www.youtube.com/ThisGuyJohn
in america, most phones are crap compared to the iphone, so this is pretty intriguing to me. though after visiting japan, i know that their phones are much better than ours.. which is why i wish you could just import them over and pop in a sim card :/
Programmer Trainee
http://jointsareokay.blogspot.com
Haha. Wow. TV on a mobile phone. You gotta have a big screen for that.
Anyway, the Iphone isn't go great for me either. Mostly because in the Philippines we are more known to text than to call since it's way cheaper. The Iphone was built for calling and other things. It's hard to text on it, and you can't forward any messages either.
So am good with a normal crappy phone. XD
former Emperor of Britannia
http://reflectiarx.wordpress.com/
TV nowadays isn't that interesting especially here in Clovisland and on iPhone...
I don't really dig it. I can invest on something better with the technology that we have right now.
part time illustrationist, doll clothing seamstress
http://puppy52art.com/
I was tempted a bit by it before to be honest but I thought I don't use my regular nokia phone that often anyway so.... lol!
http://animaticfigmation.com/
I don't watch tv at all and I think it's kind of a waste to have internet on a phone. I prefer a traditional cell phone, no special awesome extra features, I don't have a camera for no reason.
IT
http://davortech.wordpress.com
I don't have iPhone but do have iPod touch and I really love it.
Network Admin
I dislike Ipod, Itunes and the Iphone. I won't go into a big rant about it, but I believe DRM to be evil.
Student, Otaku, She-Geek(Sheek lol)
http://meimi132.wordpress.com/
Don't want. Have never and probably will never want.
2nd year Civil Engineering Student
http://soonkiong.blogspot.com
To be honest, it was a failure. Tons of features that a phone is supposed to have, the iPhone doesn't have.
Pre-U Student
http://wakuwakusuru.zeroclipse.net
J-Phones come loaded with stuff and features that some ppl dont even know about ^^
Some info about J-Phones that I stumbled upon http://gizmodo.com/5069366/why-zen-software-design-does-not-come-from-japan
Addon device like this is for sure going to be a flop.
Pirate
Agreed, it seems like add-ons for almost any electronic device end in failure. Especially true if its an afterthought and made to cover for a deficiency.
a guy who cares (sort of...)
I guess Japanese love their clamshell phones packed with the latest technologies and poor IPhone didn't met their expectations. It reminds me a webcomic strip (I forgot the title) where author said that for a first couple of days he was fascinated by his brand new IPhone with all this MP3s , movies, games and apps, but then he wanted to actually make some calls and after a couple of tries he got back to his old phone...
Graphic Designer
I love my iPhone. It was one of the best purchases I ever made. I rip my anime DVDs and download them onto my iPhone all the time for anime goodness on the go. :3
Pre-U Student
http://wakuwakusuru.zeroclipse.net
People in Japan stick to their J-phones and other people around the world stick to normal phones.
We don't see people using J-phones out of Japan do we? So the idea of the iPhone ever taking off in Japan is kinda far-fetched IMO.
Pirate
Do I like an iPhone? Yes.
Do I need an iPhone? Not really, I can do without and I don't want one that bad.
To be honest, its not so much the cost of the phone itself, but rather the expensive calling and data plan tacked on. And I do realize it is the plan that subsidized the cost of the phone, and therein lies the problem.
How much are the data plans in Japan anyhow? Wonder if it is more affordable over there.
Figurine Enthusiast, Uni Student
End of the day:
Get a japanese phone with tv functions. I can bet many japanese made phones beats iphone in terms of functionalities
Physical Therapist
http://www.flyingpussyfoot.com
I dont really need something fancy like the IPhone.Battery life is still the most important factor for my cellphone.Id like to see a camera onboard and thats it.I dont need a multiapp celly that dies on me after 2 hours
Student
http://animestuff.wordpress.com/
Well iPhone is only a cell phone with a nice design, besides that is pretty weak and expensive. I had it with me for a week to test it and at the end of the week I send it immediately back to the store because at the end of the day my battery was dead. There are much better phones out there and cheaper
Dropping computers, starting all over again at Journalism
http://xspblog.com
Oh, how nice. A device almost the same size of the cellphone that kills the whole portability idea just to get TV on a tiny screen.
^^'
Anyways, I messed with an iPhone.
It's very interesting and all, but since my current cellphone has everything I need... including a 5Mpx camera with flash that works better than my previous digicams... I'm passing the iPhone right now.
Also, the main feature of the iPhone, which in my opinnion is internet browsing, is useless in Brazil. Internet browsing via cellphone, be it with 3G or EDGE, is waaaaaayyyyyy too expensive around these parts.
Student
In my view, the iphone has some nice ideas and improvements on user interface design, but on other aspects don't have anything better (or sometimes even on the same level) as many nokia and sony-ericsson smartphones have for example.
Office Administrator
http://aquilla429.co.uk
I hate the iPhone, I think its ugly, overpriced and has features I will never need or want. I'm from England, so our phones aren't as modern or packed with features as Japanese phones, but still, I find mobiles now a days have too many features and options. All I want from my mobile phone is the ability to call people, text messaging and the function to set alarms with it too. Hence why my old shimmery Orange motorola pebl is fine for me. If I wanted mobile games, internet or tv then I'd get a laptop or a netbook, I'd never do it on a phone.
Art/Media
http://sgallen.wordpress.com/
Reading through the comments, I feel like dumping my phone for a J-phone.
Shame that J-phones won't work in the UK?
Student
http://www.joesblog.jp
they can work with a special chip but you can't use most of the features so its pretty pointless. unless you want them for the looks...
College Student
Can the Japanese iPhones get to websites by taking pictures of those square UPC's?
Troubleshooter, Universal Exports
http://funkyblueame.tumblr.com/
Yes any iPhone can use the OR Code.
Wannabe Jack-of-all-trades
http://h8gwb.deviantart.com
LOL. I think the whole point of this blog is to show that Japanese phones are too advanced for even the iPhone.
I personally hope they make a Transformers-ing phone, but I suspect it already exists.
Photography, Videography
So let me get this, you rather eat baboon dingleberries than have an iPhone with an extra bit of baggage? Are you OK in the head?
Anime Store Owner, artist, Web master
http://www.chucksanimeshrine.com
I like my i-phone, but I agree that it needs a TV function...and a video function ~_~
Network Technician
http://www.myyaruki.com
To be honest i'm not too bothered about the iphone, now the new google android phones really interest me and will be getting one as soon as my current contract runs out they have many more features that i will use reguraly especially as there so well intergrated with google service's.
Lazy College Student
Too much money...
And I never even use my cell phonexD
So I'd never even bother with an Iphone...
I have my Little 3 year old I-pod and I'm happy... battery dieing though... probably need a new one soonDx
Ninja / Engineer / Sensei / 魔法少女 (What!?! I can't be, I'm a guy...)
I am happy with my Ipod. I don't want to start listening to music or watching TV on something that is meant for talking in to.
Otaku
http://imperiomoe.wordpress.com
I don't have and I don't need one.
Troubleshooter, Universal Exports
http://funkyblueame.tumblr.com/
Now that I have an iPod Touch I can see why people like their iPhones. I do think at some point I would like to have an iPhone but it will wait until my wife and I return to Japan.
Odd part is how many people do you know of who watch TV on their phones. It is expensive to do. Several of my Japanese friends download TV episodes to their iPhone or iPod Touch. I think Apple needs to give more attention to customizing iPhone and iPhone OS to address the desires of the Japanese market.
Student
I believe Apple designed iphone with Western user in mind. Western users, at least from what I observe here in the USA, like devices that does its job and focuses on the quality of its job. Not saying Japanese Does It All Device doesn't perform professionally in its various functions, just that the All-In-One concept will need some time to mature in the west, then companies like Apple can satisfy Japanese users. The company is based here in USA afterall.
Check out the google Phone G1, its ugly, but at least its open source-ness proves promising.
Student
http://anime.scripts.mit.edu/miteiru/
Never touched a thing by Apple before. Don't have an iPod/iPhone/iAnything for that matter. ^^; I think my phone's better xD but i'm biased against Apple. :3
.NET/Web Developer
http://scrumptious.animeblogger.net
Japan is too advanced for the iPhone. hahah!
I think the iPhone is basically an iPod first before a phone and that in itself is already a failure. I have a very old nokia phone and the reason for me not upgrading is because I only use it mainly for two reasons: call and text. If I can't do those two things properly then it's not gonna be a very good phone. Two things the iPhone can't do well for me: battery life and being able to touch type for texting. :D
product design prop maker
i phone is more like a damn all in one pda with i tunes. the camrea is only a 2 megx i think the standard now is like 5meg. i think it is just the apple brand thing that japanese want. hell all the girls there have LV...hahaha....
University Student
I think a regular cell phone is enough for me and anyways i hardly even use it too.
Wannabe Web Developer
http://www.sakuafk.com
Despite what people say about iPhone, I enjoy mine so far and not going to get a different cellphone anytime soon :)
Hikikomori
http://toxxyn.blogspot.com/
I like regular phones better. And I don't like apple, so I'm not buying an iPhone.
i used to have a 3g iphone but i swapped it for a sony ericsson w960 after a month. we text a lot here. the iphone is definitely not text friendly. it can't forward/copy/paste messages and contacts and you can't use any song as a ringtone. you'll have to buy it online because they convert the file into that recognizable by the iphone. you can work around it but it's just too complicated and you'll have to have your iphone hacked. to do so means to void the warranty... just too complicated. i'm really satisfied with my new se phone and it's 3g as well.
Head Lackey and Scape Goat
Got a BlackBerry and it's really nice. Granted, it'd be nicer if it was the new Storm, but it's still pretty awesome. My one complaint is that it doesn't do HTML browsing because the mobile web blows. >_<
???Confused???
Japan's cells have everything stuffed into it already so I don't see why they would get something that's more of a downgrade...though over here it's a pretty hot item...been thinking whether to get the iPhone or the Google G1...
Head Lackey and Scape Goat
yeah but, from what I've been told, there is little to no regulation regarding the radiation output of the phones. I'm not saying you could cook bacon on one but they sure sound like they could get pretty 'hot' and I've no intention of irradiating my head any more than necessary.
Dirty Gentleman
http://cantstanzya.wordpress.com/
Perfectly content with my current phone, and ipod touch.
Electronical engineering student
I'll love to watch TV in my phone, but not if it needs an extra device.
Sibling had an IPhone ended up selling because it was terrible for text messaging.
Student
http://stuart-zaq.livejournal.com
Poor that in my country devices like this ll be only in 5-10 years T_T
Russia...
Blogger
http://andrewcurrie.ca
Thank-you for validating me in the face of a thousand angry iPhone fanboys:
http://acurrie.wordpress.com/2008/08/12/iphone-in-japan-the-real-story/
Student & Otaku
The iPhones SOUNDS nice, but if I were to get something like that, I'd rather go with an iTouch. I want to keep phone and mp3 player separate.
Besides I'm happy with my Samsung P2.
Kokoro Kotonoha's personal trainer
http://loli1983.wordpress.com
TV - a function that most Japanese phones have? Damn and i thought the technology here in America was great, why hasn't American technology stepped up like that?
iPhones seem to be doing good in America. Almost everyone i've seen has one. And that's just the begining, because soon as other cellphone companies other than AT&T start to offer iPhones, everyone in America will have one.
Remember the Motorola RAZR era? Cingular wireless (Now AT&T) was the only cellphone company that offered RAZR's. Then other companies such as Sprint & T-Mobile started offering RAZR's. Everyone had a dang RAZR after that.
I hope this comes to America.
student
http://www.the economy destroyed it.no joke.
MAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANNN
thats stupid.
anime + games collector
it right to have one but how much will it cost?
Otaku Programmer/Gamer/Artist/Photographer
http://argylebolivar.wordpress.com
though i dont have the iphone i still think this is cool ^_^
hitman (still in school)
1 word:
wow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!