Japanese Scams

Tue 2008/10/28 18:03 JST
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A bank tried to convince a woman of 66 that she was going to be the subject of a scam but she didn't listen and sent 1,400,000 yen (14,651 USD) to a person who pretended to be her son.

The woman said that she got a call from her son who said that he was in trouble for trying to steal money.

The bank thought it was suspicious after the woman asked for the money to be sent to a different prefecture even though her real son lives in Tokyo...

This type of fraud is called "Ore Ore Sagi" or "Its Me scams".

A: Hello?

B: It’s me!

A: Takeshi? Is that you? What’s wrong with your voice?

B: I’ve got a cold. Listen, I need a really big favour…

“Ore Ore” sagi (”It’s me!” scams) are a well known confidence trick in Japan.

A fraudster calls a house. If the voice on the end of the phone sounds like it belongs to someone elderly or otherwise exploitable, he says “Ore! Ore!” (”It’s me!”). If he’s lucky, the victim will mistake him for a son/nephew/grandson, and say “Is that Hideo” (or similar), and his trap is set.

In most cases, the voice will be different from the one they’re expecting. If the victim seems uncertain, “Hideo” can invent a cold or flu to explain the change in his voice.

Next, the scamster adds the bait. “Hideo” has gotten himself into terrible trouble (like accidentally shunting someone’s Porsche, or being threatened by the yakuza), and owes a lot of money. The aim of this drama is to panick the bewildered victim into transferring money immediately to an account owned by him, after which, they never hear from him again, and the truth emerges.
At their peak, these kind of scams fooled thousands of gullible unfortunates every year, earning billions of yen. Media coverage has increased public caution, but also given increasing numbers of dishonest types the inspiration to try it out. There’s also more innovation - a complex ore ore scam might involve a number of fraudsters acting different roles and sharing the profits.

News from Nikkan Sports and photo of a girl who could one day be the subject to a scam taken from E Hentai - VNSFW but the CGs in this series are quite cute - from the recently released eroge Kiss yori sakini Koi.

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  • carbonicer
    carbonicer in Australia (Registered on 2007/12/18)
    Uni Student
    http://animecore.org/forum/

    wow.... that i doubt would work here.. do Japanese people tend to fall for this often?
    and thats such a large sum of money...she must love her son dearly but to be scammed like that is bad luck :S

    Tue 2008/10/28 18:24:44 JST (ID #349746)
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  • aggitan
    aggitan in USA (Registered on 2008/04/08)
    Network Engineer
    http://www.aggitan.blogspot.com/

    I'll have to give this a try.

    Tue 2008/10/28 18:25:14 JST (ID #349748)
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    • crabdude
      crabdude in Switzerland (Registered on 2008/09/20)
      Student

      I love how that matches your icon (^_^)

      Thu 2009/08/06 20:02:38 JST (ID #695801)
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  • 「頂の座」
    「頂の座」 in That little island South of Malaysia (Registered on 2008/01/05)
    Mr. High Res

    Over here in Singapore the most common scams used on the elderly is selling "Magic Stones" lol. The con artist tricks old people into believe their stones ward off bad luck or whatever. And make them trade jewelery or money for said stones.

    Tue 2008/10/28 18:27:36 JST (ID #349751)
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    • Sabekuji Kaneda
      Sabekuji Kaneda in Parañaque, Philippines (Registered on 2008/06/21)
      Mechanical Engineering student
      http://sabekujikaneda.multiply.com/

      I think that's more of a pagan belief than a scam, much like feng-shui x_x

      Tue 2008/10/28 18:31:27 JST (ID #349755)
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      • radical anime fan
        radical anime fan in Singapore, Furnace City, Cinderblock Outskirts. (Registered on 2007/01/25)
        Polytechnic Junior, Bronze Lifesaving Trainee, Mech Designer In-training.
        http://thehangerbay.wordpress.com/

        Yeah, there used to be a lot of them back in the 1990s and before, but ever since the elderly picked up the wonders of the Internet, coverage of cases like this are virtually nonexistant.

        Tue 2008/10/28 18:49:26 JST (ID #349769)
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    • Soshi
      Soshi in Waseda, Tokyo (Registered on 2007/09/15)
      Student
      http://basement.halfarenaissance.net

      I think the more recent one is the one where they call and pretend to have kidnapped your kid. That sends parents into a tizzy.

      Tue 2008/10/28 19:39:15 JST (ID #349810)
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      • Coco the Bean
        Coco the Bean in Northern California (Registered on 2008/01/06)
        Pokemon master
        http://thecococafe.wordpress.com/

        When I visited Taiwan years back the kidnapping scam was really widespread, complete with the fake crying kid. My [childless] cousin use to get them, so she just replied to the "kidnappers" "Okay, tell my son to stop crying and be a good boy. I'm not coming to get him~ :D "

        Wed 2008/10/29 06:49:31 JST (ID #350307)
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  • Sabekuji Kaneda
    Sabekuji Kaneda in Parañaque, Philippines (Registered on 2008/06/21)
    Mechanical Engineering student
    http://sabekujikaneda.multiply.com/

    Scams... they're everywhere! Here in the Philippines some people make them into full-time jobs. The police are apprehending them and there are a number of programs on the television that warn people of these scams but it seems that it's not working. Most of these scams always have something to do with getting rich quickly; something that Filipinos are really interested in.

    Tue 2008/10/28 18:30:07 JST (ID #349754)
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    • SG
      SG in 英国 (Registered on 2006/12/28)
      Art/Media
      http://sgallen.wordpress.com/

      I think everyone wants to get rich quick. I try the lottery at times too.
      The best way is to earn money first in any type of jobs. Then, look for a alternative way in making money like, showbiz, Shares, start off a company, etc.

      Or people can just stick to the lottery and hope for the best.

      Tue 2008/10/28 18:40:44 JST (ID #349765)
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      • Sabekuji Kaneda
        Sabekuji Kaneda in Parañaque, Philippines (Registered on 2008/06/21)
        Mechanical Engineering student
        http://sabekujikaneda.multiply.com/

        The problem is that people here aren't satisfied with the lottery. They want to become rich... FAST! XD

        Tue 2008/10/28 18:56:11 JST (ID #349774)
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      • kmyk
        kmyk in Vancouver (Registered on 2008/02/18)
        Student
        http://www.flickr.com/photos/kmyk88

        Am I the strange one here? I don't believe in getting rich quick. I don't even buy the lottery. I believe in hard work and getting money the old fashioned way.

        Wed 2008/10/29 05:25:40 JST (ID #350169)
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  • SG
    SG in 英国 (Registered on 2006/12/28)
    Art/Media
    http://sgallen.wordpress.com/

    ITS ME DANNY! Really.
    I'm in need of cash, figurines and more cash plus your job offer. Just send me what you got, I am at...

    Since it is used a lot, is something that anyone can do and pull it off with at least 40% success rate?
    Danny, try it on GSC. See if they send you more figures to cure a cold ( ._.)/"

    Tue 2008/10/28 18:37:30 JST (ID #349761)
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    • kâkebuke
      kâkebuke in Paris, Not Texas (Registered on 2007/12/17)
      Wibbling+Writing+Teaching
      http://www.kakebuke.net

      Nice try. XD I think I might be getting a cold as well...

      This reminds me of the drama "Kurosagi"...

      Thu 2008/10/30 05:19:25 JST (ID #351563)
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  • Anime4Life
    Anime4Life in Heaven (Registered on 2007/12/03)
    Student

    I havnet seem many scam here in canada however, i have seem tons of MLM(Multi-level marketing) which is kinda like scamming here in canada, some advertisenment would offer highly paid jobs, basicly u give in a sum of money to buy their products for resale, however the quailty of those products does not meet the market.... (details are explained within the anime "welcome to NHK")

    and also the biggest scam reascently was before the olympics, where there was a site saying they sell legit tickets to the 2008 olympics, but it never sent out any tickets taking tons people's money.

    Tue 2008/10/28 18:40:04 JST (ID #349762)
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    • GNdynames
      GNdynames in Toronto, Ontario (Registered on 2008/07/29)
      Student, Bioresearch Assistant, WAVE VP Communications
      http://gndynames.wordpress.com

      There are those telemarketing scams with "You have won..." I just hang up after I hear the monotonous voice. I honestly don't even know how most of these go.

      Tue 2008/10/28 20:07:34 JST (ID #349832)
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    • litokid
      litokid in Toronto, Canada (Registered on 2007/11/25)
      university film student | ecchikid | the Archivist
      http://www.vimeo.com/longhim

      About the Olympics racket, if I remember correctly the Canadian company had little to do with it. The Canadian travel agency had many years of legitimate history, but this time when they tried to buy the tickets through a Chinese dealer they got cheated.

      Wed 2008/10/29 03:31:41 JST (ID #350053)
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    • kmyk
      kmyk in Vancouver (Registered on 2008/02/18)
      Student
      http://www.flickr.com/photos/kmyk88

      They're also called pyramid schemes.

      Wed 2008/10/29 05:27:24 JST (ID #350174)
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  • Lelouch Lamperouge
    Lelouch Lamperouge in ClovisLand (Registered on 2008/08/21)
    former Emperor of Britannia
    http://reflectiarx.wordpress.com/

    scams... humans really has fallen to such pits due to the economical and social status we have around the world.
    Really....

    Tue 2008/10/28 18:40:41 JST (ID #349764)
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  • radical anime fan
    radical anime fan in Singapore, Furnace City, Cinderblock Outskirts. (Registered on 2007/01/25)
    Polytechnic Junior, Bronze Lifesaving Trainee, Mech Designer In-training.
    http://thehangerbay.wordpress.com/

    I've heard cases of such in Singapore. Really, exploiting people like that is lower than stealing from the old.

    Tue 2008/10/28 18:48:11 JST (ID #349767)
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  • davidc
    davidc in Brisbane, Australia (Registered on 2008/06/27)
    IT Crowd

    is this post really from you Danny? You covered this exact same topic a couple of weeks back. Maybe this is a trick to make me visit the cg scan site for kiss yori sakini koi? Well it worked. Love the CG art work. Thank you ^^

    Tue 2008/10/28 18:48:12 JST (ID #349768)
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    • tymmur
      tymmur in his top secret nuclear bunker (Registered on 2008/01/20)
      Mad scientist

      I wondered about covering the same topic more than once too. However it can never be told often enough that the world is full of scams and that we should be really careful.

      Tue 2008/10/28 21:39:45 JST (ID #349901)
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  • AMDX1325
    AMDX1325 in New York (Registered on 2008/10/09)
    Student

    things like this is rare in the state but i did see alot of these type of scam in china, and text message scam is dominant over there.

    Tue 2008/10/28 19:16:41 JST (ID #349787)
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  • XSportSeeker
    XSportSeeker in Brazil (Registered on 2007/08/22)
    Dropping computers, starting all over again at Journalism
    http://xspblog.com

    Yep, but didn't fall for it.
    Unfortunately, scams are very common in Brazil... but mainly the fake kidnapping scam.

    You see, prisons are a complete failure in Brazil. Almost all of them are overcrowded, most of them are in horrible state (buildings falling apart), and it's a very common thing to find corrupt people working in them.

    Cops working in prisons not only have low wages, but inmates are usually part of organized crime mobs which can threat the life of people working there... and since the whole system is kinda corrupt, things ain't easy.

    Now, about the scam. Prison inmates has easy access to cellphones due to everything I already said. They are mainly stolen cellphones which are discarded after sometime of usage.
    The scam consists in inmates calling random cellphones and faking they are sons that were kidnapped, crying at the cellphone and all.

    I already received 4 calls like that in 2 years. The first time I called the police, but they say they can't do nothing about it.
    This is only one of the long list of things I hate about Brazil.

    Tue 2008/10/28 19:18:35 JST (ID #349789)
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  • zephyranthez
    zephyranthez in Jakarta, Singapore, Australia, Earth (Registered on 2008/02/16)
    ダメ人間, ひきこもり

    lol that's some easy trick =p
    wait, rather than the scam, kisukoi's Itsuki is more friendly to the eye and heart and dolphin!

    Tue 2008/10/28 19:18:47 JST (ID #349790)
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  • varutieru
    varutieru in indonesia (Registered on 2008/08/26)
    student / NEET

    well, here in indonesia we are so poor we abandon our family
    so try a scam here, success rate is almost at 10% LOL
    i really have no idea why they deliver great amount of money if u were not sure its their relative
    even great family bonds have their own lack huh...

    why they didn't make sure or call back the actual number of their relatives?

    Tue 2008/10/28 19:22:21 JST (ID #349792)
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    • Alphonse
      Alphonse in Surabaya, Indonesia (Registered on 2008/07/29)
      Electrical Engineering Fresh Graduate

      hey, we are not that low already. Remember kidnapping case before?

      Tue 2008/10/28 20:17:43 JST (ID #349844)
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    • heat horn
      heat horn in Indonesia (Registered on 2008/01/05)
      keroro platoon member
      http://heathorn.wordpress.com

      Yep they should have called back to check if it's real or not.
      Even in a panic situation I think it's still unreasonable to just send the money.

      Wed 2008/10/29 07:32:30 JST (ID #350368)
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  • Kinny Riddle
    Kinny Riddle (Registered on 2008/03/19)

    This is a common scam here where I live as well. Basically the scammer's just betting on the receiver saying out whoever's name it is, and then claiming to be that person, and then the "job" begins.

    Tue 2008/10/28 19:29:44 JST (ID #349798)
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  • Gundam Otaku
    Gundam Otaku in Tropical Singapore (Registered on 2006/12/30)
    Student
    http://marianto.deviantart.com/

    Hmm..I have heard of this "technique" being used in a scam from news report a few months ago.

    Tue 2008/10/28 19:34:14 JST (ID #349802)
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  • x33b
    x33b in Chicago (Registered on 2007/11/23)
    Network Admin

    People have tried to scam me, but for some reason I can't imagine why the Nigerian embassy would want to give me millions of dollars.

    Tue 2008/10/28 19:42:22 JST (ID #349813)
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  • Evil King
    Evil King in Vlaardingen, the Netherlands, Earth (Registered on 2007/12/18)
    Student and full-time otaku

    Damn, that old bat just is stupid if she still sends money after a bank even advises her.....

    Tue 2008/10/28 19:58:36 JST (ID #349824)
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  • daichouginga
    daichouginga in Byston Well, the land between the earth and the sea (Registered on 2008/06/04)
    The Sword of Magus
    http://daichouginga.blogspot.com/

    Wow, I can't believe that type of scam still works. That's pretty oldschool technique back in my home country, lol.

    Tue 2008/10/28 19:59:22 JST (ID #349826)
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  • aquilla
    aquilla in United Kingdom (Registered on 2008/10/22)
    Office Administrator
    http://aquilla429.co.uk

    I've had scam emails, but that's about it and I'm smart enough to know I've won the U.S Lottery or someone is trying to pay in $500 into my paypal account. I've never fallen for any of those stupid tricks. I feel sorry for elderly people who do fall victim to it though, it's so low to prey on the vulnerable.

    Tue 2008/10/28 20:03:27 JST (ID #349830)
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  • alan.kun
    alan.kun in Mexico (Registered on 2008/05/13)
    Student
    http://viajapon.com

    That is a common scam in Mexico, it has been done for years and the bastard scammers have a lot of dirty techniques; sometimes they say that your relative/friend is in the airport and was caught with bunch of money that was not declared. That sucks, and they tried to scam me once, luckly they failed xD

    Tue 2008/10/28 20:14:34 JST (ID #349841)
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  • Alphonse
    Alphonse in Surabaya, Indonesia (Registered on 2008/07/29)
    Electrical Engineering Fresh Graduate

    kinda reminds me of touhou doujin titled "Neko-Reset". The first chapter is about yuyuko trying to trick ran, believing chen is kidnappaed lol.

    Tue 2008/10/28 20:15:47 JST (ID #349842)
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    • suki
      suki in Cape Town, South Africa (Registered on 2007/08/22)
      Graphic Design student | Receptionist | Otaku
      http://sukidesho.blogspot.com/

      Lolols, I remember that one XD

      Wed 2008/10/29 12:05:20 JST (ID #350588)
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  • spidr245
    spidr245 in Everywhere, Anywhere, and sometimes There too (Registered on 2008/08/25)
    Ninja / Engineer / Sensei / 魔法少女 (What!?! I can't be, I'm a guy...)

    There are so many scams happening all the time that you can't really keep count anymore. I keep getting these scams on my cell phone saying my "car warranty is overdue". The funny part is I don't even own a car... @_@

    The elderly lady should have listened to the bank when they warned her. Or she could at least have tried contacting the son herself.

    Tue 2008/10/28 20:41:53 JST (ID #349859)
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  • 6pack
    6pack (Registered on 2008/03/20)
    browsing the nets
    http://otakuposts.blogspot.com/

    here mlm tricks are played on the gullible. you phone has won etc, and then they are told to invest a big sum in some scheme. needless to say the company disappears overnight with the money.

    one dirty old scamster duped me of about 6k yen once by telling me my high value parcel was in customs, etc and he would release it for me. turned out that bugger didn't do anything and just walked off with my money and the parcel wasn't in any real trouble in the first place. wonder how many people he must have duped daily.

    Tue 2008/10/28 20:56:06 JST (ID #349866)
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  • FatBastard
    FatBastard in over his head (Registered on 2007/11/04)
    Dirty Gentleman
    http://cantstanzya.wordpress.com/

    Danny: "Moshi moshi"
    FatB: "It's me. FatB"
    Danny: "How'd you get this number?"
    FatB: "Nevermind that. Listen, I need all your figures."
    Danny: *click*

    Tue 2008/10/28 20:57:33 JST (ID #349870)
    reply to FatBastard's comment
  • BeLe
    BeLe in Davao, Philippines (Registered on 2007/01/03)
    .NET/Web Developer
    http://scrumptious.animeblogger.net

    I've been a subject of scams so many times but they've never succeeded. Which really makes me wonder why many people are so gullible to these kind of scams. I mean, if you just give it a minute and think about what the scammer is talking about you should be able to decide whether to trust someone or not. *sigh*

    I do hope more and more people become aware of scams these days.

    Tue 2008/10/28 21:16:16 JST (ID #349882)
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  • tymmur
    tymmur in his top secret nuclear bunker (Registered on 2008/01/20)
    Mad scientist

    The newspaper here wrote about a scam used during the current financial downfall. It's about an email telling that money in banks are really unsafe since all banks are near bankruptcy. To avoid losing a lot of money, people should withdraw all their money on their account. However if you do it like the email ask you to do, then the money will end up in the hands of somebody else, presuably the sender of the email.
    For the record: according to the newspaper (or rather their sources) the banks aren't heading for bankruptcy. If a bank is heading for bankruptcy, then nobody will be informed by email anyway.

    Tue 2008/10/28 21:51:44 JST (ID #349907)
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  • necrophadian
    necrophadian in a transitionary phase of existence (Registered on 2007/04/22)
    -1
    http://necrophadian.blogspot.com/

    the only scams ive encountered and avoided are sob-stories and get rich quick schemes. my friend once tried to get me invested in some internet based MLM scam, i refused but he went along with it and lost like $1200. A cynical and paranoid personality can be helpful sometimes. O_o o_O

    Tue 2008/10/28 22:16:21 JST (ID #349915)
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  • chun
    chun in need to be in bed (Registered on 2007/01/09)
    part time illustrationist, doll clothing seamstress
    http://puppy52art.com/

    cute image danny ^^ and oooh scammers ^^; think they tend to pick on the old here + in SG :O I recall hearing on radio here, an old lady fought off her robber before ^^; can't remember if she managed to hold on to her stuff tho! But she got injured ^^;

    Tue 2008/10/28 22:24:40 JST (ID #349917)
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  • Minaru Chou
    Minaru Chou in Philippines (Registered on 2008/09/25)
    Programmer Trainee
    http://jointsareokay.blogspot.com

    I've been through scams, but more of been involved but not fallen into one.

    I got one or two calls from someone claiming to be a company and requests me to work for them. I found out from high school batchmates that it's all a scam and to not listen. I suppose it makes sense. I even got called once!

    Other scams which may not even be a scam but felt like one is those "donations" random people ask from me near or during the Christmas season. Filipinos celebrate early and some take advantage of their own generosity by claiming to be organizations to help the poor/those in need. Some even have the nerve to just leave a donation slip or something on my table while am eating in a public place and would wait nearby until I leave money. I really find that frustrating...and if you're really trying to do a good cause you wouldn't be so rude about it.

    Those are the ones I can never forget.

    Tue 2008/10/28 22:34:11 JST (ID #349919)
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    • sho23
      sho23 in Philippines, Antipolo (Registered on 2008/05/01)
      Employed Specialist

      I second the thought on those scams when people ask for donations on public places. Although we don't have accurate info to prove it's validity. Based on a collective and highly educated guess. It is a scam to get money without consulting legal help. Example: Church.

      Thu 2008/10/30 01:29:37 JST (ID #351349)
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      • Minaru Chou
        Minaru Chou in Philippines (Registered on 2008/09/25)
        Programmer Trainee
        http://jointsareokay.blogspot.com

        Ugh...I really wish we didn't have to be brainwashed to always help those in need.

        Anyway, I just figured if I want to help those in need I'll look for an organization that is recognized by the University I go to. Makes things easier

        Fri 2008/10/31 15:08:45 JST (ID #353611)
        reply to Minaru Chou's comment
  • hika
    hika in 蒼天の楽園 (Registered on 2008/07/05)
    SMS隊所属
    http://lightofthedawn.wordpress.com

    I think thats something similar to the one in sg.. just that it was a lucky draw case in sg.. person pick up phone, fraudster tell him he had won a few hundred thousand and their company are based in hk or china.. in order to get the money, he had to transfer this amt to them for the application fee...
    Seems stupid but recently the newspaper did post such a case whereby a person really transfer the money and went to hk to collect the prize only to find that he had been scammed.
    Also had read somewhere there is a kidnapping phone fraud.. fraudster say he had ur son with bg shouting MOM MOM! and want ransom.. in the meanwhile the phone get clogged by the fraudster call in order to prevent contact with the mom and the real son..
    Quite a few ways in scamming a person i must say..

    Tue 2008/10/28 23:00:50 JST (ID #349944)
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  • Matteas
    Matteas in Prague, Czech Republic (Registered on 2008/10/25)
    High school student
    http://www.animeraku.com

    I guess things like this happen everywhere. Seniors are easy to deceive. In Czech Republic, it is common that seniors let in their house someone who pretends to be a plumber or banker or anything else. He or she then waits for the chance to find where the money is hidden, steal it and leave. And the senior has no clue that the money has been stolen.

    Tue 2008/10/28 23:03:22 JST (ID #349949)
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  • Jinryuken
    Jinryuken in Philippines! (Registered on 2008/10/25)
    The computer guy that helps you over the phone
    http://jacquespascual.multiply.com

    Well, here in the Philippines, there's a similar scam... Its what we call "dugo-dugo" (dont know where the name came from)

    The victims are usually house helpers... A person calls the house when everyone is at work or in school, then will try to fool the helper (we normally have helpers stay in).

    A: Inday (usually the helpers name), this is your Kuya (what they usually call the owner of the house) I'm in an emergency... get all the jewelry and cash that I got in my bedroom and give it to the person I'll send over...

    B: Yes, Kuya... (then gives everything to the scammer)

    Its a known thing here in the Philippines...

    Other scams here will basically be more obvious... like getting a call or SMS saying you won a raffle worth a million but you need to deposit a certain amount of money for you to claim it... duh?

    Tue 2008/10/28 23:05:05 JST (ID #349951)
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    • Minaru Chou
      Minaru Chou in Philippines (Registered on 2008/09/25)
      Programmer Trainee
      http://jointsareokay.blogspot.com

      Oh God my friend's helper was a victim to that.

      That's really horrible...and kinda underestimating the intelligence of the maids. >_<

      Fri 2008/10/31 15:05:05 JST (ID #353607)
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  • noob
    noob in philippines (Registered on 2007/09/02)
    Underdog Artist, Outcast to the Society, Tetsuya Nomura art fan

    Scammers....the petty criminals.....I hate them...

    Tue 2008/10/28 23:07:05 JST (ID #349953)
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  • graeble.
    graeble. in South Texas (Registered on 2008/05/23)
    lecherous wretch
    http://graeble.deviantart.com/

    that's terrible. i hate thieves!
    back in middle school we would gamble with marbles playing marbles and eventually the school prohibited marble playing. we still would but heres where i found myself the target of a scam. a boy i didnt know came up to me and asked to play for one of my prized marbles, he put gambled two of his. we played and i won but when i was gonna collect my prize another kid with a teacher came up to us and she asked if we were gambling, i said no and that i lent my opponent some marbles, and he claimed they were his. the teacher let us go and a day later i saw the kid that challenged me hanging out with the one that showed up with the teacher. and it just clicked in my head that if my challenger had one he would have taken my marble but if i won his buddy would tell on us and he wouldnt lose his marbles. it was clever but i hated the fact that they used the schools rules to take advantage of peers. i thought it was playground blasphemy!

    Tue 2008/10/28 23:12:32 JST (ID #349958)
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  • tueac
    tueac in Singapore (Registered on 2008/08/23)
    Fresh Diploma Grad... enlisted.. Cpl soon I hope...
    http://splifearts.com

    Woo... so they have it in Japan too... Well in Singapore we have the Police scam, lawyer scam, of cos the it's me scam, kidnap scam(rare), ring once scam, SMS(Short Message system) scam, fengsui scam and the famous Apple Gang(Not telephone scam)...

    Compared to Japan i wonder what else is new?

    But let me stress that public education in SG is actually quite good, since we have a tv show called Crime Watch that re-enact those methods and also police man teaching the elders at the Community Center how to spot fraud...

    Tue 2008/10/28 23:49:40 JST (ID #349978)
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  • Patrick Barron
    Patrick Barron in Michigan, United States of America (Registered on 2008/02/09)
    Grocery Store Clerk

    Scammers nothing new

    Wed 2008/10/29 00:08:25 JST (ID #349982)
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  • Harts
    Harts in Estonia (Registered on 2008/06/02)
    Student

    Sad, but scam's involving social engineering are more and more popular nowadays. Just have to be skeptical about anything fishy and try to find similar cases/letters. Eg: if you receive an strange email, just copy few lines from it to google search and watch, if anyone has gotten similar emails or maybe it's is listed as a scam attempt.

    Wed 2008/10/29 00:19:23 JST (ID #349988)
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  • ZonRaalder
    ZonRaalder in Michigan (Registered on 2008/09/22)
    Welder
    http://touchedmusume.blogspot.com/

    Happens here too, I remember reading about in the newspaper. The scammer's stories are all pretty much the same(the kid is in trouble with the law) except with the location changed..

    Wed 2008/10/29 00:23:07 JST (ID #349989)
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  • Emperor's Hand
    Emperor's Hand in Ohio, USA (Registered on 2007/12/24)

    Well if they send this money, then can't they go to the police afterwards and trace the account the deposit went to and then arrest that person? Or am i missing something here

    Wed 2008/10/29 00:37:22 JST (ID #349997)
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  • Quentin aka Q
    Quentin aka Q in Varies (Hong Kong resident) (Registered on 2008/01/06)
    http://quentinlau.blogspot.com

    Scams like that are not uncommon, and a relative of mine nearly fell for the lottery type in the summer. Not everybody's well educated, so the scammers still have the chance to win over the unlucky ones, causing the government in Hong Kong to broadcast warnings on such problems.

    Wed 2008/10/29 00:43:42 JST (ID #350000)
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    • evi
      evi in Vancouver (Registered on 2008/04/04)
      Procrastinator
      http://www.wootevi.com/blog/

      I remember those commercials in Hong Kong.

      The only 'scams' I've experience are those phone calls that plays some taped message telling you have won something. Them: "Congratulations. You've won .." Me: hangs up.

      Wed 2008/10/29 13:13:32 JST (ID #350640)
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  • Riktasi
    Riktasi in Texas, US (Registered on 2008/09/16)
    student, part-time NEET

    Here's another example of Social Darwinism at work.
    Only scam attempt I've ever been subjected to was one of those Nigerian scam emails, which I just laughed at and deleted. If I was bold enough, I would've played along with the scam and add another picture to 419eater.

    Wed 2008/10/29 00:53:21 JST (ID #350003)
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  • Andrei-kun
    Andrei-kun in California, USA (Registered on 2008/10/23)
    Student
    http://andreijournal.blogspot.com

    LOL
    scammers. I've never been scammed maybe because I play a lot of MMORPG
    since MMO have scams also, I have learned many ideas how to avoid being scammed, taught by my friends and relatives who play the same game as mine. XD

    Wed 2008/10/29 01:41:01 JST (ID #350016)
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    • cheesecake
      cheesecake in San Diego, CA (Registered on 2008/09/02)
      こうこうせい
      http://stickymochi.blogspot.com

      I've actually been scammed on a MMORPG. -_-''

      I agree, playing MMORPGs do heighten your alertness when someone tries to get your money (whether it be online of real) from you!

      Wed 2008/10/29 07:04:40 JST (ID #350334)
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  • Chaos 3L337
    Chaos 3L337 in California (Registered on 2007/09/18)
    CSU student/accountant
    http://rantingsofadiehardharuhiist.blogspot.com/

    I remember some company claiming to be my grandparents insurance company called my home asking for information. My mother handed me the phone since she didn't know what to do and I immediately realized what was going on. In the end I ended up telling off the caller since I knew they were after my grandfathers identity. They asked for stuff like social security numbers and their home address, things that no company would ask for from a relative. After that I called my grandfather and told him what was going on, turns out he had never heard of the company.

    Wed 2008/10/29 03:34:01 JST (ID #350059)
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  • litokid
    litokid in Toronto, Canada (Registered on 2007/11/25)
    university film student | ecchikid | the Archivist
    http://www.vimeo.com/longhim

    I know that scam has been run in Hong Kong. They tried to dupe my grandfather, who now lives alone. Fortunately, my grandfather's a tough old fart (I mean this in the most affectionate way) and immediately questioned it. He began to point out inconsistenciesone by one, and managed to bewilder the would-be scammer enough to make him apologize before he hung up. XD

    Wed 2008/10/29 03:36:13 JST (ID #350062)
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  • ghostlightning
    ghostlightning in Manila (Registered on 2008/10/24)
    Employee
    http://ghostlightning.wordpress.com

    I'm amazed how that could actually work... it's like a phone version of the nigerial mail fraud, only using relatives (assuming their identity anyway)

    Wed 2008/10/29 04:53:20 JST (ID #350137)
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  • marvin
    marvin (Registered on 2006/12/24)
    http://www.marvinryan.com

    got scammed on ebay once: me wife wanted to sell her old mobile phone on ebay, someone bought it using paypal, only to reverse the payment after we had given him the item. until then we didn't know one could do that on paypal.

    Wed 2008/10/29 05:11:13 JST (ID #350152)
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  • JIYkp
    JIYkp in Ontario, Canada (Registered on 2008/10/29)
    Student
    http://jiykp.deviantart.com

    Luckily there aren't too many reasons to urgently need any sort of bail out where I live.

    Wed 2008/10/29 05:25:13 JST (ID #350167)
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  • In Hot / Off Safe
    In Hot / Off Safe in Tokyo (Registered on 2008/04/24)
    High Tech Exec

    .
    If you answered yes - that you've never been a victim of a scam - keep in mind that a successful scam is not detected. So it's difficult to answer whether you have - only whether you know.
    .

    Wed 2008/10/29 06:36:50 JST (ID #350290)
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    • In Hot / Off Safe
      In Hot / Off Safe in Tokyo (Registered on 2008/04/24)
      High Tech Exec

      .
      Duh... I meant if you answered "no". Long day.
      .

      Wed 2008/10/29 06:37:52 JST (ID #350294)
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  • Bob Frapples
    Bob Frapples (Registered on 2007/09/01)

    my in-laws got bitten by a similar scam, but they didn't have a banker to protect them.
    Don't know how much was lost, though. ;'(

    Wed 2008/10/29 08:42:35 JST (ID #350459)
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  • Sanjo-chan
    Sanjo-chan in Chattanooga, TN (USA) (Registered on 2008/10/24)
    Proud Otaku and Part-time NEET
    http://centakume.info

    I almost fell for a scam back in the Spring. I spent a couple of nights for an anime convention. On the first night of the con, I got a phone call from a guy who needed credit card information to have WiFi setup in the room. He called twice; the first time, my mom answered it while I was half sleep. The guy had an India accent, my mom couldn't understand what he was saying, and told him he had the wrong number.

    A couple of minutes later, he called back, but this time I answered it. He asked for the last 4 digits of the credit card. With me being very sleepy, I started to look through my wallet for the information...maybe it had something to do with the hotel, but thought to myself--I don't have a laptop (I started to bring it too, but decided not to), so why does he need this info? I told him that he had the wrong number and hung up. The following morning, I told the hotel receptionist about it, and they said they only call up the room when there's room service and such--never asking for information like that. Good thing I didn't bring my laptop..

    Wed 2008/10/29 09:25:51 JST (ID #350495)
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  • silent1134
    silent1134 in Los Angeles, California (Registered on 2007/08/22)
    ???Confused???

    wow i don't think that would fly here...though i have heard of scam stories on a chinese radio here...

    Wed 2008/10/29 09:34:28 JST (ID #350502)
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  • tempuraudon
    tempuraudon in Los Angeles (Registered on 2008/10/27)

    I wonder what kind of scams i'll have to be dealing with when i hit my golden years. This is just getting ridiculous.

    Wed 2008/10/29 10:12:16 JST (ID #350529)
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  • suki
    suki in Cape Town, South Africa (Registered on 2007/08/22)
    Graphic Design student | Receptionist | Otaku
    http://sukidesho.blogspot.com/

    Hmm, if that happens here, I've never come across it before.

    Wed 2008/10/29 12:15:28 JST (ID #350597)
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  • lostandfound
    lostandfound in Singapore (Registered on 2007/10/21)
    Hikikomori in the making
    http://supermariabros.deviantart.com/

    I doubt those kind of scams would work here... Since we're a multi racial country...
    If the scammer spoke in Chinese and the lister is Indian... That would be a laugh!

    Wed 2008/10/29 12:54:00 JST (ID #350625)
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  • Riiana Doon
    Riiana Doon in US (Registered on 2008/07/23)
    Working Otaku mom
    http://riianadoon.blogspot.com

    I've been scammed before, but not quite like this, in my case it was for an online job, and they asked for the number on my checking, and being I was young yet, and hadn't really dealt much with checks, I gave them the wrong set of numbers on the check and they used that to their advantage, thus draining my checking account, forcing me in debt, thus forcing me to close that account... and trying to pick myself back up from that point on...

    Wed 2008/10/29 20:56:10 JST (ID #351121)
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  • Hatix
    Hatix in Antwerp, Belgium (Registered on 2007/04/25)
    IT, Programmer, Otaku, ...
    http://blog.jpopdb.org/

    Whawha, those pictures look lovely!!! ^^

    Wed 2008/10/29 23:01:06 JST (ID #351212)
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  • sho23
    sho23 in Philippines, Antipolo (Registered on 2008/05/01)
    Employed Specialist

    Unfortunately this happened to my Grandfather (Lolo in tagalog) back her in the Philippines. Differently though. From his testimony, 3 unknown middle aged men suddenly became friendly with him as he got off his taxi and approached his bank. They hypnotized him to do two transactions resulting in a loss of 13K. Local authorities were informed, however an immediate response is impossible.

    I believe that crime is equal everywhere, the only thing we can do is to suppress it. With diligence, hard work and righteousness in the enforcement of Celetial and man-made Law.

    *Based on experience: Hypnosis isn't possible. That was the limit of his mind. In order to escape the reality of his vulnerability/ hopelessness in that situation. This excuse was designed to avoid responsibility. It was probably used else where.

    Anyone reading this. Please be weary and only withdraw minimal transactions in public places. As much as possible, if any large transactions are made, use a private vehicle/ travel with company.

    Thu 2008/10/30 01:24:34 JST (ID #351341)
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    • Minaru Chou
      Minaru Chou in Philippines (Registered on 2008/09/25)
      Programmer Trainee
      http://jointsareokay.blogspot.com

      The trick there I heard is just to avoid eye contact.

      I kinda believe in the whole hypnosis thing. I hear it's use in psychology to bring back old memories that the person buried deep inside their heads.

      Fri 2008/10/31 15:06:50 JST (ID #353610)
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  • andra
    andra in Singapore (Registered on 2007/11/06)
    中学生
    http://thezhukeeper.blogspot.com

    I heard of such cases here from my teacher before;

    Teacher's wife: Hello?
    Caller: *screams*
    Caller: I have got your son here, give me 100k before I melt away his toes
    Teacher's wife: .... ... (hmm, I thought I only got a daughter?)


    Thu 2008/10/30 13:00:52 JST (ID #352062)
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  • amasero
    amasero in USA, Maryland (Registered on 2008/05/13)
    anime junky :3
    http://www.youtube.com/ThisGuyJohn

    lol wow.. that's so wrong.

    Thu 2008/10/30 21:13:32 JST (ID #352548)
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  • kousaka
    kousaka in USA (Registered on 2007/09/01)
    student

    Seriously? wow. That's pretty stupid of people to fall for, then again old age does make some people a little slow.

    Thu 2008/10/30 21:29:41 JST (ID #352555)
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  • h8GWB
    h8GWB in Safely on Penny's Boat (Registered on 2008/06/18)
    Wannabe Jack-of-all-trades
    http://h8gwb.deviantart.com

    Bah! Scams are for the gullible and emphatic! I've never fallen victim to a scam, even those "cheap cruise vacation" ones where the vouchers you bought can never be redeemed. Goddammit.

    I don't understand how those CGs are supposed to relate, but thank you, Danny.

    Fri 2008/10/31 02:11:39 JST (ID #352889)
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  • memoriesoffaddict
    memoriesoffaddict in CA (Registered on 2008/10/30)
    University Student

    Reminds me of Yakitate Japan! where the two dudes hired by kirisaki were calling their moms and their moms were like "Is this a I'm your son scam."lol!

    Fri 2008/10/31 08:26:46 JST (ID #353249)
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  • Sie Kensou
    Sie Kensou in Mississauga, Canada (Registered on 2008/07/21)
    UOIT student

    Ah! So that's what the reference in Yakitate Japan was! it all makes sense now ^_^
    scams are so horrible >.>

    Tue 2008/11/04 10:55:52 JST (ID #358291)
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  • Denki-koiji.
    Denki-koiji. in ピエール、サウスダコタ (Registered on 2007/12/05)
    anime, programmer, gfx designer, illustrator ^^
    http://denkikoiji.com

    scams...ahh there annoying lol i have seen so many of them lol i have gotten some on the phone b4 lol...some are stupid lol

    Wed 2008/11/26 06:24:26 JST (ID #385998)
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  • herwam
    herwam in russia (Registered on 2009/02/07)
    lawyer
    http://toshiba-mclogi.jimdo.com/

    If you open Moscow Yellow Pages, you would be surprised how many foreign companies have their offices in Moscow...

    Although the international financial crisis has caused the collapse which has never occurred since the Great Depression, the Russian Federation is still considered as a quiet harbor.

    Amongst the transcontinental companies there are a considerable number of Japanese corporations such as Toshiba, Mitsubishi, Fujitsu, NEC, Sanyo, etc.

    Though the latter are thought to be well-known for their successful in retailing of high-quality products worldwide, there have been cases which must be interesting to investigating institutions.

    We are going to take Mr. Vadim Danilov’s employee fraud case including asset misappropriation, money laundering, and kickback scheme.

    The story goes Mr. Vadim Danilov was hired by Mr. Harry Fujimaki to work for Toshiba Corporation (Kabushiki-gaisha Toshiba) as a general logistics manager in Russia.

    The event occurred in 2004.

    In the course of two years Mr. Danilov had been “employed” in other areas such as, a certification specialist, customs broker, trader, promoter, etc. Mr. Danilov worked effectively and honestly thinking that he was a team player contributing to Toshiba’s profits.

    Moreover, Mr. Koichiro Natsume, an executive manager of Toshiba Corporation in the CIS, declared him a Toshiba Official Trader at the Conference at the Imperial Park Hotel, Moscow, 2006.

    In addition, Mr. Natsume declared that Mr. Vadim Danilov was officially registered by Toshiba Corporation as Toshiba's Official Trader named “the Ninth Wave” in the UK.

    To conclude the announced procedures, Mr. Natsume issued to Danilov’s Ninth Wave an invoice which was paid to a TCMS official account at Sumitomo Mitsui Banking Corporation, Singapore Branch.

    Furthermore, there were other financial transactions during 2006-2007-2008 years, executed by Mr. Vadim Danilov between clients and Toshiba Consumer Marketing Singapore, SMBC Singapore branch account.

    After all the payments were completed, Mr. Natsume vanished somewhere in Japan. Toshiba Corporation managers in Russia, Japan and Singapore refused to explain to Mr. Vadim Danilov how those payments had been used.

    Toshiba Corporation & TCMS, Mitsubishi and MCLogi, insist nowadays that Mr. Vadim Danilov has no evidences and the corporations declare now that Mr. Vadim Danilov had never had any relations with Toshiba Group Companies or Mitsubishi's MCLogi stuff.

    Moreover: the Toshiba and Mitsubishi MCLogi staff has been running away from Mr. Danilov for 35 months (!).
    The Metropolitan Police Department of Tokyo also refused to investigate the accident and explained to Mr. Danilov that he had no right to bring in an action against a Japanese citizen.
    It would be better for the Metropolitan Police Department of Tokyo to check diligently backgrounds of Toshiba's and Mitsubishi's Conformity Certification procedures manipulations in Russian Federation. As well as Customs Clearance documents with false Japanese stamps and signatures of imaginary "Japanese Customs" or "Thailand Customs"...

    It seems to be a confrontation between David and Goliath but David had had no backup…

    Sat 2009/02/07 10:49:15 JST (ID #478957)
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  • Artemis
    Artemis in Cyberspace (Registered on 2009/02/24)
    Reader of Books

    I probably would have done something silly if some random voice I didn't recognize said "It's me." Perhaps I would have responded with "Okay. Wire me the money and I'll take him out."

    I tend to answer my phone with "City Morgue!" and "Talk dirty to me." :3 It's fun.

    Tue 2009/02/24 23:24:44 JST (ID #501104)
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  • Merc
    Merc in California (Registered on 2009/03/08)
    Student

    Scams are not fun. Then again, Im a sucker for the bleeding heart types so...

    Wed 2009/05/13 20:48:11 JST (ID #604619)
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  • Patches
    Patches in Englewood, Ohio (Registered on 2008/10/20)
    High School Graduate and Otaku
    http://myanimelist.net/profile/Patches

    i got scammed online for buying something and not receiving half of what I ordered but I have never been scammed like this before. then again, seeing how we don't have much cash these days, nobody I think would bother :P

    Wed 2009/07/22 06:48:44 JST (ID #682327)
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