Anime Censorship

The latest episode of Rosario and Vampire was quite unwatchable. Disliked that bat from the first series and thought that it was going to be killed off but now its back in full force with a pedo bear.
As I mentioned before after speaking to some folks in the anime industry, they don't really make money from airing the series on TV or streaming it on the net - the bulk of money is made from DVD sales and then licensing.
I'm getting the feeling that they are purposely censoring TV time so that folks will go and buy the DVDs. But in Rosario's case, it looks like they are completely over doing it.
The animation quality has also taken a huuuge nosedive into a vat of steaming cack too.
More censored pics at Sankaku Complex.
Do you hunt for the uncensored DVD version when its out (Sekirei, Strike Witches, Kanokon etc) ?
Still love the OP though (which was previously the ED).
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Mechanical Engineering student
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They gotta make money somehow, right? I guess I understand them a little.
But that's way too much censorship. They should do something about that or else people will stop watching their anime. It's not really a good view to watch a scene with bats stuck on someone's privates, noh?
University Student
Yeah im with you on this. They have to make money somehow, and with all the hype about streaming and watching on TV, the need to buy it isnt as high. With this maybe the industry will earn some money and prosper?
Besides as a viewer, you have to just wait until the dvd is out and then dl that lol
Video Game Developer
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Well that just emphasizes the idea that "sex sells". Buy uncensored version just to see some nipples?
I understand the principle of purists, and that above shot does make the show somewhat unwatchable. But anime in the past that was PG-13 didn't have problems with strategically placed hair, cloth, fog, or other items. Why change it now?
Amateur novelist
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I haven't seen much of Rosario yet, but I think we all hate the censoring that goes into TV broadcasts, especially when it isn't needed. Thankfully it doesn't seem to be too bad in Japan (they only seem to censor the stuff that REALLY shouldn't be on TV), but it looks like they've been going overboard in this current season of Rosario + Vampire. It's a rather blatant marketing ploy.
occuwhat?
Most of the time i can stand the censorship since it doesn't affect my viewing that much.
There is however case in which the series loses half it's appeal for me if uncensored, i'm talking about Sayonara Zetsubou Sensei. And cases in which the series is rendered useless, like Kodomo no Jikan, this last censoring not only the entire image but also the dialogue.
Video Game Developer
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I find that interesting - implied sexuality, which could even be more "naughty" than the explicit sexuality is not censored. Komodo no Jikan definitely has great examples of that, and likewise, sometimes the censorship adds amusement to the show, such as your example of Zetsubou Sensei. I'm not sure the onsen scene would have been nearly as funny without those stupid floating pics of that bald guy. :)
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I'm probably one of the few who's kinda amused by the bats ^^;
Student
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why not just put a damn bat all over the screen instead? ~_~ And yeah,if its an ecchi anime like rosario,then i'll just say very late time (when kids should sleep!) - and less censoring. Sure,i can understand censoring like they had on kanokon since it didnt bother me a bit,but rosario is going overboard. >_<
Student/Prospective Anime Maker
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As I posted in the other thread, this cycle of Force-Promoting the DVDs should be nipped in the bud before it gets out of hand.
Video Game Developer
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Yeah!! Don't buy those DVDs!!! TORRENT FTW!*
*This post is meant to be sarcasm and should not be taken seriously. In no way shape or form does the poster promote piracy.
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Odd atmospheric fog phenomena and excessively blinding bright lights would have been more acceptable.
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I can't believe I posted the exact same topic at roughly the same time as you danny... Sorry... But my views are written there.
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Danggg...I'm glad I didn't get into this series in the first place. That kind of censoring is why I didn't watch either of the Negima anime...
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Was there censorship in Negima? I didn't notice a thing.
-1
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exactly which negima anime are we talking about here?
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I doubt that there was any censorship in either the Negima! series or the Negima!? series. They were not that heavy on fanservice anyway.
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why air it on tv if you need to censor it and dont make money from it? just release the dvd's or blu-rays. people would buy it if the media were sold a lot cheaper than current exhorbitant prices they charge for the full boxset.
Student / gamer
easiest way to showcase it, i guess...
or to showcase how much ecchi exhibitionism you have without giving up the goods XD
Network Admin
Going to have to wait for the DVDs for Rosario Vampire. If the bats were small it would be ok, but they are huge and take up most of your view.
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Well, they're not doing charity, business is still business, & most only make profit from DVD & merchandise. Viewers who watch it free should at least understand & appreciate it.
I agreed that Rosario+Vampire S2 is completely overdone & it's getting very annoying.....spoiled the fun.......
Engineering Student
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Welp, guess this one is going to be dropped from watching if this is how it's going to be. This just looks ridiculous, and those stupid bats take up 90% of the picture. Why bother even airing it if this is what they are going to do. Just do an OVA series instead.
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yeah. i saw this on tv last night... twice! i was thinking of posting it. but you beat me to it. ^^. the bats and the bear were quite annoying.
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I won't be getting the DVD version... If you search enough, then maybe just maybe there's an uncensored version on the net...
Graphic Designer
Sucks censorship!!!!!!!!!! They are just messing up everything F!!! for what im seeing i maybe dropping Rosario + Vampire -_-" the DVD's are spensive and to buy a DVD for just 2 ep -_-" sucks
Graphic Designer
PD: i for got to mention you see worst Worst things in Porn dont know why The hell they do this -_-"
University Student
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The story's what all matters to me :3
For the dvd.. will buy if the bonus is awesome lol
Engineering Student
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If the story in Rosario+Vampire was better, this might now be a problem, but it isn't. The story is average, and over played, so the main reason to watch (for me at least) was for the fanservice. With that taken away, there is no point to watch.
Graphic Designer
not only that but look at those big a$$ bats O_O is like a cow whit wings is covering almost everything -_-"
Student
"now its back in full force with a pedo bear" - LOL, I couldn't said it better myself:P
Programmer Trainee
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Damn I kinda feel bad about that then.
It's not that I don't want to buy. It's just that I hate the dubbing/subbing that the companies do sometimes. Not to mention I can't find the DVD's here since well..piracy is an issue here and it's overpriced!
It's a gray area I guess
a guy who cares (sort of...)
I have to admit that I'm not happy about this whole censorship stuff but as long as there are uncensored DVD versions I can live with that ^^.
Student
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DVD versions almost always come uncensored like Air Gear, Witchblade and others which I can't recall now :P
Student
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The opening of the new season is simply amazing, normally I skip all openings after watching it once but Rosario second season makes me watch and re-watch countless times ^^ . That's strange of them censoring even when there's underwear, which makes no sense, if it had nipples showing now that would be different like Air Gear
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I'll probably skip both seasons just because of the slaughtering of them with censorship. I like to watch something before I go out and buy it but if I can't even enjoy the previewing what's the point?
Student, part-time slave
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What's with all the idol op/ed with the new series? not that I don't like them (in fact, they are very well animated, at least the ones I've seen) but I hope it doesn't become a trend, if there's one thing I don't like is idols.
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Uh... well Kannagi does have that kind of opening too... But at least they differentiate it with different scenes in the makeup room, etc. Which made me wonder what kind of show it was when I first saw the opening.
This anime is getting so boring. And the bats are not helping.
Student, Otaku, She-Geek(Sheek lol)
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So very glad I'm not watching. They'd bug me so much...
Retired programmer, anime lover
If it's censored, I don't watch it. If I can't watch it, why should I bother buying the DVDs since they could be censored too? Besides, why support a company that promotes censorship? If they want to make more money, they should make higher quality anime that I WANT to buy, not HAVE to buy in order to view. This anime company can go pound sand as far as I'm concerned.
Seeing red!!!
Not watching...If I did I would get a bat swatter.
2nd year Civil Engineering Student
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The anime was poor to begin with, so nay nay. The manga was tons better anyway.
College Student
The diehard fans will already be buying the DVDs, so the censoring despite the late timeslot seems to be a deliberate ploy to get more (less fanatical) fans to buy the DVDs. Like I said in Actar's news item, this may be a plan for them to get people to stop loving their DVR versions.
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Are we watching Rosario+Vampire Capu2 or Bats flapping? Well come on now! Steam and no nipples I can tolerate, but censoring the girls having clothes(pantsu and bras) on while other ecchi anime shows have almost naked girls all over the screen. Well the censoring is ridiculous and WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYY too much, they should limit it to a few bats and why do they need to add pedo bear when Yukari turned to a non loli in this episode. Truly this is one of the BEST episodes of R+V that is RUINED by BATS and Pedo bears.
We need to call for a whole squadron of exterminators next episode or the re-run.
Student, Artist, Webdesigner and Blogger
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I hate the censoring, especially when it's a bat, a cloud or something like that. Black rectangles are at least serious.
But still it's useful when you're watching anime while your parents are in the same room. It saves you from embarassing.
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I believe certain TV stations were airing the non-censored version for the first 2 episodes, but they now all air the censored version, from what I hear. Censorship itself, I don't mind. The way you do it, I do.
In a bathtub/bath house with a fog, sure why not. These bats? clearly they got someone that's supposed to give fanservice and stickered on a "MUST PAY TO SEE" Bat on it. Which is damned annoying. At least make it more subtle. I loved Austin Powers censorship; they combined it so well and it was comical. They made the censorship on purpose and it was so smooth. Do something like that, which I have seen other animes do. This is just annoying.
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I didn't watch it yet, but I think it goes something like this:
I also saw the pics on Sankaku Complex, and I think they overdid it.
I understand censoring when it's to comply to age standards.
But I disagree with the argument that "they have to make money somehow".
First, because they are already making money. If it's on TV, they already got payed for it.
And if they got payed for it, it's because they accepted a contract, which is fair and square.
Second, because that argument has no limits.
I mean, what's next? They'll just put a huge bat over 10 minutes of the show and say "if you want to see the rest, buy the DVD"?
I don't like where the whole "censored version uncensored version" is going.
Soon enough, we'll have anime with capped extra sex scenes that are DVD exclusive.
I don't like the fact that some animation studios are going to lenghs of creating animes that has to have those censored scenes just to sell more DVDs.
It's just becoming too artificial. Things like that can lower drastically the quality of plots and stories selected to make animes.
Student
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Usually don't watch stuff like that anyway. Looks craptastic and is prolly aimed at perverted men.
Student
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Oh but very good points. Although some studios are short on budget, abusing censorship is ludicrous.
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I will buy any amount of DVDs for a series I like. Mixed about this one, though, so it is a maybe.
Besides, if you want bad editing, go watch Saban's (long before they were bought by Disney)version of Dragon Ball Z. The edits were just bad.
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ITS LIKE KODOMO NO JIKAN ALL OVER AGAIN
THOSE 'NO'S, THEY'RE LAUGHING AT ME
AAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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One reason why I didn't watch Kodomo Jinkan.
Electrical Engineering Fresh Graduate
me drop kojikan tv, now downloading kojikan dvd ^^
Student
Good series will deserve good sales in DVDs, regardless of censorship. Although it is an incentive but not a major one like storyline, qualities and plots
Student & Authorized Chicken Slapper
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Well I wouldn't mind the censor if I was a member of the bat species but I am not therefore it does suck. I do not remembering it being anywhere near as bad as it is now in the 1st season. In fact maybe its just me but I dun really recall much censoring at all.....maybe just a little.
I understand the need to censor sometimes especially on things that air at certain times but yeah I agree with alot of the people stated above me, they so overdid this...
Proud Otaku and Part-time NEET
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I always get the Uncut DVD. But even though it says uncensored, some parts will be cut anyway, like the FUNi's version of DBZ, although that has changed with those "Widescreen" DVDs--sort of..
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I just got the first volume of Sekirei and it's uncensored, but I didn't get it for that. I didn't really mind the censored images shown when it aired on tv. I really didn't notice the floating nipples defect that's been talked about. I'll get an uncut version if it adds more content, but not really for uncensored content.
US Navy Sailor
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If the fansubs are all censored like that, I will stop watching the show. And since I can't speak Japanese yet, I will have to wait for someone to pick up the license stateside or wait for the dvd versions to get fansubs. Whichever comes first. Either way, this sucks.
University's Slave
You have to look for uncensored here; sometimes they'll even trim or change plot points to make it more palatable for US audiences. Luckily heavy changes are on the decline (too many angry fans *chuckle*) but it's still something to watch out for.
And god, that bat is annoying. Not subtle at all! it even blocks the faces of people in the background. It looks like they blew it up beyond the original image size too; it's clearly a different image quality than the rest. . .
doesn't subber have those raws that doesnt have those censor? last time i remember chihiro got the raw with no censor bat, and yes i agree with some of you who hates the bat, too annoying
Electrical Engineering Fresh Graduate
no, unfortunately there aren't any...those from raw4u are censored too. Wasting my time to download it >.<
NEET
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Kinda makes you wonder what's the point of airing the series if the censoring is going to be that bad? The same thing happened with Kodomo no Jikan and makes me ponder that the ploy might only be to sell more DVDs. Oh well, it's not like I'm watching Capu2, but I can empathize with the irritation.
Grocery Store Clerk
Too much cencorship
Student
I'm totally ok with it, otherwise how in the world they would encourage the people the dvd when it comes out. I say it's pretty cruel but still ok, think of it as a preview for the actual thing.
???Confused???
Censorship kills the mood of things...and there's no point unless the story is really captivating for me to get it...
I don't watch many fanservice anime or somethin that has a lot cut out because of censoring and what does in what I watch I really don't mind to much. Last thing I watched that was fanservicey was Strike Witches and that was the first one in about 2 years I watched that had blatant fanservice.
software manager
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wholy crap i thought it couldn't get any worse ;_;
Student
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gave up on this show ages ago
gratuitous pantsu showing is not my cup of tea
Student and full-time otaku
ZOMG...that's soo lame..the whole point of those shows is cute-sexy-girlies-showing-skin....Didn't know that Strike Witches was censored btw...is it bad?
Electrical Engineering Fresh Graduate
yes it does, steam and flashbang....well, no pantsu censor though ^^
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That's too much censorship.
generic office worker/personal assistant
All I can say is I will look forward to the un-edited and un-cut version (if it's ever released in the States, like the Naruto Uncut DVD sets).
It doesn't look like it has anything to censor in the first place.
Loli Hunter
like Kodomo No Jikan
too much censor
Lowlife
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>>The animation quality has also taken a huuuge nosedive into a vat of steaming cack too.
R+V has always been this way :V
I'm liking Capu 2 half of the time but there's no point if all the service is censored.
Student
pedo might be from fan subbers themselves. i remember reading that they didnt like too much fan service and might censor some themselves. or it could be a troll on their part =P
They can say the eff word but have to censor innocent eyes? O.o Wasn't showing of eyes allowed before? Because the Japan audience wasn't anal like the Americans.
IT Expert / System, Network, Security Administrator
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There is no point on censor, you can find a lot anime and real nudes on internet, including lolitas, etc.
Btw this puppy is ULTRA lucky, I wish I were the puppy at that time:
http://www.sankakucomplex.com/wp-content/gallery/schoolgirl-panchira-mania/vip611340.jpg
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Quality censorship is always good. this seems to be like they are just covering scenes hoping to uncover them for the DVD release which they know old perverted men will purchase (as was true with the first seasons official demographic poll)
Office Administrator
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And There was me last year thinking the Crow's in Air Gear were a lame form of censorship.
Electrical Engineering Fresh Graduate
those censorship method are ruining my mood...why they have to use that blasted bats :(
i want to stick my hand into tv and grab them off..
I FEEL ASLEEP
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I think it's pretty tragic if anime commonly resorts to teasing you with censored softcore images and then promises uncensored softcore images if you pay them. It basically lowers those shows (and to a degree, anime as a whole) to the level of free previews on porn channels.
It would be incredibly weird if, say, Eastenders had a half-naked woman with her tits concealed by a boiling kettle and then charged people to see the scene without the kettle. It'd be (correctly) seen as a sign that the show was on its knees and was trying ANYTHING to get views (and money).
Student
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I still haven't watched the whole first season of Rosario.
Otaku/Student/Worker
The uncensored stuff is good tho hard to find. Kanokon , Rosario & Sekirei Would be Great Uncensored. From what i have seen its look like it be worth it to. :)
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That's not even censorship anymore. They're covering much more than what needs to be censored. heheh
Night Warrior
My thoughts? The bat really doesn't help, since anyone who's watching this knows what's under the bat.
Why censor the underwear? It doesn't make sense!
I FEEL ASLEEP
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When you consider how much otaku tend to fantasise over panties, you'll realise that the panties may as well by a sexual organ as far as they're concerned. They're just as willing to pay for an expensive DVD to see panties as they are to pay to see nipples - possible more so, in some cases.
Student/ Everyday Otaku
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The bats are really really annoying, I guess sometimes it can be cute or funny. Makes me want to watch it less, since I feel like the quality of animation has dwindled and isn't as good as the first season.
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better wait for the DVD
failing student
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censorship is soo lame
Spec Ops Otaku
I second that.
Otaku ^^
If I'm the producer/director and I know that some scene will be censored for both TV and DVD release, I would change the storyboard not showing the nekkid parts, period. Waste time for editors to paste all the censorship mascots.
d@@b
student
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Programmer
it was because of all the censorship in vampire + rosario that I lost interest in the anime. and so, I dont feel like buying the dvd.