Your Precious Backups

Wed 2008/08/20 21:17 JST
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One of my HDs died yesterday although it didn't have that much that cant be recovered elsewhere.
The problem that I have is that I usually keep a clone backup of my main machines HD. But when I increase the size of my main machines HD, I need to get another HD of matching size or I cant make a clone.
In general I have tons of HDs which are backups of backups etc.
Lately I've been thinking of going the Blu Ray route where each disc holds 50GB (its 50 right?).
The going price here is 8,000 yen for 20 blank Blu Ray discs.

How do you keep backups of everything? Do you just burn everything to DVDs or get extra HDs? Anybody here keeping backups on Blu Ray?
Is there a magical place on the Internets where you can download whole series in the event that you loose yours?

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  • Jenarwen
    Jenarwen in Vancouver (Registered on 2008/03/06)
    Art Student/Freelancer
    http://jenarwen.deviant.art.com

    I need to start backing up everything ^^;

    Wed 2008/08/20 21:22:31 JST (ID #271865)
    reply to Jenarwen's comment
  • Haruji
    Haruji in Kuala Lumpur (Registered on 2008/02/01)
    Software Consultant, Business Intelligence
    http://haruji.wordpress.com/

    Trying to burn out to DVDRs as much as I can for Backups. I have alot of HDD plugged into my desktop for now, and about 5 HDDs lying externally.

    There's an awful lot of thing I can burn out, but I've been lazy =_="

    (Pray hard to god no HDD die without at least giving me the sign it is going to)

    Wed 2008/08/20 21:23:18 JST (ID #271866)
    reply to Haruji's comment
  • Evil King
    Evil King in Vlaardingen, the Netherlands, Earth (Registered on 2007/12/18)
    Student and full-time otaku

    I was originally keeping backups of backups on both an external drive and dvds, but then my collection started increasing so fast it would become too pricy way too fast.
    So for now, I make sure I have double copy (drive+dvd, or drive+drive) of my fave series and risk deletion of some others.
    Another downside of keeping that many copies is the managing of it all; right now I have a huge Excel sheeting detailing it all, but I'm working to learn access so I might organize it more easily ^^

    Wed 2008/08/20 21:27:39 JST (ID #271874)
    reply to Evil King's comment
  • Uchikoma
    Uchikoma in Wales (Registered on 2008/06/14)
    Programmer
    http://www.nowloading.co.uk

    I have a load of external hard drives, mostly the drives from old laptops with cheap HK eBay caddies. Anything important (photo's of my son for example) will go on DVD and a drive. I have had plenty of drives die, and DVD-R's decide they no longer want to work. Programs, series, etc I can re-download, but would be devastated if I lost the photo's.

    Wed 2008/08/20 21:35:15 JST (ID #271879)
    reply to Uchikoma's comment
  • nanu
    nanu in U.S. Suburbia (Registered on 2007/12/28)
    hikikomori

    I rely on the occasional internet news posting regarding hard drive failure to remind me to make backups ^^; it's been a while; I personally don't value much data but sometimes burn my own works to the current popular optical disc format.

    BTW, Danny, do you have a means for monitoring HDD temps?

    Of all computing components, cooling is most sensitive for hard drives to extend the working life, since they are mechanical...

    Wed 2008/08/20 21:36:21 JST (ID #271881)
    reply to nanu's comment
    • Danny Choo
      Danny Choo in Tokyo (Registered on 2006/12/11)
      CEO MIrai Inc
      http://www.dannychoo.com/profile/eng/

      Never thought of monitoring HD temp.

      Thu 2008/08/21 03:38:23 JST (ID #272182)
      reply to Danny Choo's comment
      • frenchkiss
        frenchkiss in France (Registered on 2008/04/05)
        Programmer, Apprentice farmer

        I use Speedfan to monitor all temps including HDDs, not sure if it works over USB though (I only use eSata) If you run your drives in fanless enclosures temperature monitoring is critical since drive temp can easily rise 25 celsius above ambient (sometimes more depending on the number of platters), for most drives max temp is usually around 55 celsius (but of course it's not recommended to use them at max temp for a long time...) I used to make backups on DVD-R but they are too small now and BD-R are too expensive here, HDDs are a lot cheaper per GB so I just buy new HDDs and keep the old ones as backups (other benefits are that new HDDs are always faster and often more silent too...)

        Thu 2008/08/21 04:04:39 JST (ID #272209)
        reply to frenchkiss's comment
      • nanu
        nanu in U.S. Suburbia (Registered on 2007/12/28)
        hikikomori

        Well I don't really monitor my HD temps, but do check them whenever I change
        hardware config.

        This 20GB Maxtor Quantum Fireball from 8 years ago still works (for my gateway that needs a reformat), and I recently put a fan on top in hopes of milking it some more:
        http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn20/HOSB5NM7/dc/piggy.jpg

        Thu 2008/08/21 05:48:52 JST (ID #272355)
        reply to nanu's comment
    • lost_packet
      lost_packet in US (Registered on 2008/01/28)
      IT/System Admin

      No, HDD temps do nothing. The study from Google showed drives that were 40c to 60c died at the same rate. The biggest factor was how much data was initially written to the drive when it was new. New drives that had a ton of writes when new died much faster.

      Thu 2008/08/21 06:36:56 JST (ID #272392)
      reply to lost_packet's comment
      • frenchkiss
        frenchkiss in France (Registered on 2008/04/05)
        Programmer, Apprentice farmer

        Actually that study showed that for their hdds that were 3 years old or older, the annualized failure rate of drives running above 45c was 3 times higher (15% !) than those running at 30c, so temps do not do "nothing"...
        The problem is also that if the temp rises above max temp it can be recorded in the SMART informations and can void the warranty...

        Thu 2008/08/21 08:21:43 JST (ID #272537)
        reply to frenchkiss's comment
      • raptor_cZn
        raptor_cZn in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia (Registered on 2007/12/12)
        Pre-U Student
        http://wakuwakusuru.zeroclipse.net

        Depends on how long you turn it on too. If you leave it on 24/7 (like I do ^^), chances are higher that it will fail since the motor will probably break down due to all that wear and tear.

        Thu 2008/08/21 19:29:14 JST (ID #273344)
        reply to raptor_cZn's comment
  • Final Fantasy Freak Ein
    Final Fantasy Freak Ein in London, Japan , Malaysia, Taiwan (Registered on 2007/10/28)
    Game Designer
    http://toratohora.blogspot.com/

    Backup by burning into dvd~ though sometimes Im even lazy to do backup~

    BlyRay is 25Gb per layer~ max is 4? or 6 layer it can goes up~ that is what i heard~

    Wed 2008/08/20 21:39:47 JST (ID #271883)
    reply to Final Fantasy Freak Ein's comment
  • GundamJehutyKai
    GundamJehutyKai in Foundation II Stellvia (Registered on 2007/09/12)
    Service desk support
    http://lookingglass.kokidokom.net

    blu ray drives and disks are too expensive for backing up the level of volume I have. I stick to my external hard drives as a point of backup and only a small portion of stuff is stored on DVDs and the like.

    BTW, The capacity of a blu ray disk is 25GB but they can be stacked so dual layer disks hold 50GB and so on. Not sure if the recorder drives have caught up to take advantage tho...

    Wed 2008/08/20 21:40:28 JST (ID #271884)
    reply to GundamJehutyKai's comment
  • daichouginga
    daichouginga in Byston Well, the land between the earth and the sea (Registered on 2008/06/04)
    The Sword of Magus
    http://daichouginga.blogspot.com/

    No backups for me at this point. I can't buy an HDD ext backup because my money is always spent on figures and kits. xD
    BTW, thanks for reminding, now I need to burn files on dvds to create backup.

    Wed 2008/08/20 21:43:20 JST (ID #271890)
    reply to daichouginga's comment
  • wolf516
    wolf516 in Malaysia (Registered on 2008/06/16)
    Student

    T_T I very scare about losing everything on my hdd as well..... very precious for me

    Wed 2008/08/20 21:46:19 JST (ID #271893)
    reply to wolf516's comment
  • 6pack
    6pack (Registered on 2008/03/20)
    browsing the nets
    http://otakuposts.blogspot.com/

    i just keep backing up stuff onto dvds as and when a series is completely downloaded. As for hdd's i use acronis. so even if the hdd is of smaller size it doesn't matter as the program just compresses the backup before writing but only upto a certain extent. anyway 500Gb to 1TB hdd's are quite cheap now.

    Wed 2008/08/20 21:48:38 JST (ID #271898)
    reply to 6pack's comment
    • raptor_cZn
      raptor_cZn in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia (Registered on 2007/12/12)
      Pre-U Student
      http://wakuwakusuru.zeroclipse.net

      Acronis FTW. One of the best piece of software ever created. The compression rate is good. I can squeeze my backup files on a smaller HDD.

      Thu 2008/08/21 19:37:48 JST (ID #273369)
      reply to raptor_cZn's comment
  • Axisxeo
    Axisxeo (Registered on 2008/07/12)
    Student

    Used to burn my data, now I only have an external HD which is still new.
    I need to do backups ....now where was that HD ^^

    Wed 2008/08/20 21:51:51 JST (ID #271908)
    reply to Axisxeo's comment
  • Tami
    Tami in Germany - Düsseldorf (Registered on 2007/12/16)
    IT-Architect, SysAdmin, WebDesign and Coding, Virtualization (VMware + NetApp)
    http://www.milkdrop.de/

    Two good NAS with a nice raidsetup and bout 2TB storage each works fine for me unless the big thunderstorm comes and does toast it. ^^ (nah i got a security power adapter and whatsonot for that as well)
    For things which shall be stored longer i usualy use DVDs, at least atm but i think i could lean towards blueray sometime sooner or later as well... at least when the DVDs get their "age" that they could fail and i need to copy around again. *cough* :D

    Wed 2008/08/20 22:00:54 JST (ID #271918)
    reply to Tami's comment
  • Jaydead
    Jaydead in Philippines (Registered on 2008/05/21)
    Programmer
    http://www.philanime.com

    It didn't surprise me that your HD died when I saw the brand. Maxtor sux, buy Seagate.

    Wed 2008/08/20 22:08:41 JST (ID #271926)
    reply to Jaydead's comment
  • aubz.
    aubz. in Vancouver (Registered on 2007/11/18)
    Multimedia Developer/Designer

    I suffered a HD death last year. It was the most depressing experience, since I lost all my personal pics, memorable works and music. I've had a couple of dead HDs, but this was the worst. I was considering taking the HD to a data recovery place, but I'm kind of skeptical. I don't want my personal things being copied and leaked. It took me almost close to a year to accept the fact that I've lost everything.

    As for backups, I only burn the REALLY important things and anime onto DVD. I have a portable 2.5" drive that I use to transport work/music to and from my office.

    Wed 2008/08/20 22:11:23 JST (ID #271927)
    reply to aubz.'s comment
  • albert_2mb
    albert_2mb in Jakarta, Indonesia (Registered on 2008/07/15)
    University Student

    at first I only relied on my WDC 320GB as my backup, but later bought some dvd burner and burn DVD+ for my backups.. which reminds me, do DVD+ burn much slower than DVD-?

    Wed 2008/08/20 22:11:35 JST (ID #271929)
    reply to albert_2mb's comment
  • nya-chama
    nya-chama in London, United Kingdom (Registered on 2007/10/31)
    Student/Freelance Programmer

    I built a raid-5 system with 4 X 750GB hard drives(so 3TB).

    But only 2.25TB are accessible for writing, 750GB is kept for redundancy. So if I lose a drive(any one of the four), I just need to replace it and all the data is still there.

    I wanna try out the Drobo with 4 X 1TB(4TB!) next. http://www.drobo.com

    Wed 2008/08/20 22:14:18 JST (ID #271932)
    reply to nya-chama's comment
    • Dravick
      Dravick in Oregon, USA (Registered on 2008/07/27)
      CAD Draftsman

      Drobo's great. I just got one of the 2nd gen ones with FireWire 800. Plugged 4 x 500 gig drives into it and it's churning along happily. Haven't had any trouble running it in Vista Ultimate either. I wholeheartedly give my endorsement of it.

      Thu 2008/08/21 00:46:14 JST (ID #272055)
      reply to Dravick's comment
      • lost_packet
        lost_packet in US (Registered on 2008/01/28)
        IT/System Admin

        Yes, and with Drobo you can run RAID arrays with mismatched drive sizes too. No wasted space.

        Thu 2008/08/21 06:38:05 JST (ID #272395)
        reply to lost_packet's comment
        • Calan
          Calan in Canada (Registered on 2008/05/24)
          Student
          http://www.tecurious.com

          You theoretically can do this with Intel's Matrix Storage system (it even allows for running, say, RAID1 on 1/2 of each drive, and RAID0 on the other. Thus you can balance it for both speed and reliability, with your precious data being redundant, while stuff like your operating system is very, very fast). That said, the low (non-existent?) maintenance of a Drobo is really appealing.

          Thu 2008/08/21 09:48:13 JST (ID #272696)
          reply to Calan's comment
  • x33b
    x33b in Chicago (Registered on 2007/11/23)
    Network Admin

    For my home use I have a 1 TB network hard drive that I store my back ups on. The back up job runs every two weeks keeping my stuff pretty up to date. The odds of that backup drive dying and my normal drives dying at the same time are pretty slim. I still find the best way to back up a server is to use tape back ups. You can easily get 200 GB per tape and the tapes themselves don't take up huge amounts of room.

    Wed 2008/08/20 22:20:32 JST (ID #271935)
    reply to x33b's comment
  • XSportSeeker
    XSportSeeker in Brazil (Registered on 2007/08/22)
    Dropping computers, starting all over again at Journalism
    http://xspblog.com

    I used to keep DVD backups... and before that, CDs.
    But lately, I'm not making backups as I should.
    Too much stuff.

    Sometimes I just don't learn from my errors... I have a horror story.
    Sometime ago a 300Gb external HDD failed on me, and it had more than 290Gb of non-backuped data... including stuff like most of the pics I took in Japan, several documents, and other stuff very important to me.

    It was like loosing a part of my life... and in fact, it was, since it took me a long time to gather all that.

    If BD-Recorders weren't so expensive around here, I'd buy one too.
    DVDs just ain't enough these days...

    Wed 2008/08/20 22:26:12 JST (ID #271939)
    reply to XSportSeeker's comment
  • Old Guy
    Old Guy in Southern England (Registered on 2007/11/11)
    IT techie

    I have copies of most data on local HD, DVD and a 1TB Nas. I have also shared my anime with a friend so almost anything could be retrieved from him. If you want to talk about paranoid though my photos are on Internal HD, External usb HD, Nas, DVD (Multiple copies), A hidden partition on my sisters machine, An encrypted partition on my work machine and Flickr.

    Wed 2008/08/20 22:33:54 JST (ID #271946)
    reply to Old Guy's comment
  • HawKaZoiD
    HawKaZoiD in Doitsu (Registered on 2008/07/29)
    Electronics engineer

    I use 2 external HDs (1,5 TB) when i have something to backup.

    Wed 2008/08/20 22:39:47 JST (ID #271953)
    reply to HawKaZoiD's comment
  • Poofiemus
    Poofiemus in Education Camp, US (Registered on 2008/07/21)
    University's Slave

    I recently outgrew practically using DVDs as backup. What's sad is that just 2 years ago, when I first got my iMac, I was able to back up EVERYTHING on a single CD. Then again, at the time I was using an ancient frankencompy that took forever to do anything and only had intermittent internet, which was probably a huge factor in my data usage. ^^;

    Still, I really should get an external hard disc. There's just too much stuff that I'd rather not loose, and after having a hard disc get totally PWNed by spyware in the past, I know it's better to be safe than sorry.

    Wed 2008/08/20 22:46:52 JST (ID #271961)
    reply to Poofiemus's comment
  • Zou
    Zou in New York City (Registered on 2008/07/08)
    Student & Authorized Chicken Slapper
    http://www.otakuinternational.com

    Right now Bluray is a bit expensive to use as backups in my opinion, I would stick to an external HD for backups.

    Wed 2008/08/20 22:47:02 JST (ID #271962)
    reply to Zou's comment
  • Meimi132
    Meimi132 in Stuck in the void between the net life and real life. (Registered on 2007/12/03)
    Student, Otaku, She-Geek(Sheek lol)
    http://meimi132.wordpress.com/

    I'm guilty of not backing up enough.... But in recent months I did buy a 500gb ex hd, which keeps all my anime nice and snug. I've backed it up onto dvd's aswell though. Just to be safe. Since my computer has a crappy 80gb(66.5gb because of Vista...:hissss: hd I really needed the 500gb lol.

    Wed 2008/08/20 22:47:33 JST (ID #271964)
    reply to Meimi132's comment
    • Syugo
      Syugo in Tokyo/Akihabara (Registered on 2008/03/27)
      super otaku, doujin-ka

      I feel sorry for you, then

      Wed 2008/08/20 23:14:45 JST (ID #271997)
      reply to Syugo's comment
  • redmango
    redmango in Florida (Registered on 2008/08/08)
    houkouonchi
    http://www.flickr.com/photos/red_mango/

    Losing a hard drive can be heart breaking. About three years ago my Mac Mini's HD failed. I lost about 20Gb of music files that I failed to back up. The other files were of no concern, but one third of my music files were gone and of course the important iTunes database. Since then I have been synchronizing my important data to two other separate HD. My music, photo, and important data files are backed up this way. ChronoSync seems to work well on my Mac Pro.

    I used to backup to DVDs but it takes time and lots of DVDs. My music is over 100 GB and photos are approaching 100 GB very fast. I also test each DVD to see if it copies back the data to a hard drive with out errors.

    The Blu-Ray route for backups is on my mind too. Like everyone else, I am starting to collect spindles of DVDs all containing AVIs. The AVIs are mostly of JDramas that I have enjoyed. My anime is comparatively small. Once I am done with a series it gets backup immediately to DVD. Should a HD fail containing AVI, it would not be a great loss for me.

    Wed 2008/08/20 22:49:38 JST (ID #271965)
    reply to redmango's comment
  • GNdynames
    GNdynames in Toronto, Ontario (Registered on 2008/07/29)
    Student, Bioresearch Assistant, WAVE VP Communications
    http://gndynames.wordpress.com

    I've lost everything on my old computer when the hard drive died, which includes a whole bunch of old photos. Now I backed up pretty much all my old files onto my lap top and burned all my anime onto DvDs.

    Wed 2008/08/20 22:55:44 JST (ID #271971)
    reply to GNdynames's comment
  • kypmbangi
    kypmbangi in Malaysia (Registered on 2007/12/02)
    3D Artist
    http://kypmbangi.deviantart.com

    Whole series? yeah, there's da-anime.org. A really lifesaver

    Wed 2008/08/20 23:04:12 JST (ID #271986)
    reply to kypmbangi's comment
  • WiseFreeman
    WiseFreeman in DC Cloning Laboratory (Registered on 2007/11/07)
    Dance Trooper: DCX-001 O.D.E. (Order of the Dancing Empire)
    http://dannychoo.com.my

    Dear Danny, you may try "http://www.carbonite.com/" online backup, I tested it a year ago.
    Currently profiling my hardisk data to DVD, Blu Ray burner is still cost a buck in M'sia ^^;

    Wed 2008/08/20 23:04:20 JST (ID #271987)
    reply to WiseFreeman's comment
    • Danny Choo
      Danny Choo in Tokyo (Registered on 2006/12/11)
      CEO MIrai Inc
      http://www.dannychoo.com/profile/eng/

      Thanks for the link. 50 USD is pretty cheap.

      Thu 2008/08/21 03:45:15 JST (ID #272191)
      reply to Danny Choo's comment
    • raptor_cZn
      raptor_cZn in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia (Registered on 2007/12/12)
      Pre-U Student
      http://wakuwakusuru.zeroclipse.net

      Online backup sites aren't really recommended unless you have a blazing fast internet connection and very little data to backup. Will take ages to backup over 1TB of data with a 1Mbps 'broadband' connection here.

      Thu 2008/08/21 19:43:14 JST (ID #273378)
      reply to raptor_cZn's comment
  • pitapowa
    pitapowa in France (Registered on 2007/11/05)
    figs seller , photographer
    http://exelica-meteor.com/

    Stay away from Maxtor ^^

    All the hard drives i had dead or with problems are Maxtor , never had any problems with Seagate :p

    Now i would love to buy a Blu Ray burner but it still too much money ... sadly :(

    Wed 2008/08/20 23:13:32 JST (ID #271996)
    reply to pitapowa's comment
    • GNdynames
      GNdynames in Toronto, Ontario (Registered on 2008/07/29)
      Student, Bioresearch Assistant, WAVE VP Communications
      http://gndynames.wordpress.com

      The hard drive that died on my was Maxtor as well >.>

      Wed 2008/08/20 23:27:00 JST (ID #272009)
      reply to GNdynames's comment
      • GundamJehutyKai
        GundamJehutyKai in Foundation II Stellvia (Registered on 2007/09/12)
        Service desk support
        http://lookingglass.kokidokom.net

        Make that 3. In fact, I had 3 Maxtor drives die on me!!! never bought them again and specifically look at the make these days.

        Thu 2008/08/21 00:35:43 JST (ID #272048)
        reply to GundamJehutyKai's comment
        • Calan
          Calan in Canada (Registered on 2008/05/24)
          Student
          http://www.tecurious.com

          I've had several Maxtors run for 4+ years without a single problem. Very seldom are companies consistently making bad products...
          Harddrives have moving parts and thus are extremely prone to failure. Perhaps having multiple drives fail also prompted you guys to invest in keeping your harddrive(s) cool, not over-using them, etc. I definitely would, if I had ever had a drive fail. Even so, I make sure my drives are taken care of.

          Thu 2008/08/21 09:54:17 JST (ID #272706)
          reply to Calan's comment
    • raptor_cZn
      raptor_cZn in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia (Registered on 2007/12/12)
      Pre-U Student
      http://wakuwakusuru.zeroclipse.net

      Western Digital has never failed me =)

      Thu 2008/08/21 19:40:47 JST (ID #273372)
      reply to raptor_cZn's comment
  • bakaidiot
    bakaidiot in London, United Kingdom (Registered on 2008/02/15)
    Student

    What a coincidence...
    My father's HD also died yesturday.. and it was a Maxtor.

    I back up all my stuff on HDs and DVDs.

    Wed 2008/08/20 23:21:40 JST (ID #272000)
    reply to bakaidiot's comment
  • Ana
    Ana in New England (Registered on 2007/08/08)
    http://sparklingzone.blog124.fc2.com/

    I never keep a lot of backups. Just some CD-Rs and DVD-Rs with videos, photos and other data that's important to me. I thought I would take it worse when my main hard drive died recently, but there wasn't much important stuff there... XD

    I'd like to see if it's possible to recover a few things from it sometime soon, but if it's totally dead then I don't really care, since I had pretty much all of my personal works uploaded on the web and ready to redownload.

    Blu Ray's seems nice but I don't have anything worth backing up that would take advantage of their capacity, so I'll prolly be sticking to DVD-Rs for awhile.

    Wed 2008/08/20 23:23:26 JST (ID #272003)
    reply to Ana's comment
  • OtakuTimes
    OtakuTimes in London, UK (Registered on 2007/04/22)
    Software Developer
    http://www.otakutimes.com

    I used to burn everything to DVD-Rs, but after having burnt a few hundred this strategy got a bit too tedious. Currently I keep all my media and some backups on 2TB of external drives (1x1TB, 1x500GB, 2x250GB).

    Wed 2008/08/20 23:51:51 JST (ID #272023)
    reply to OtakuTimes's comment
  • meronpan
    meronpan in カリフォルニア (Registered on 2007/12/30)
    software manager
    http://wawawawasuremono.com

    i don't have any off-site backups yet... in the meantime raid 5 protects me from a single hd failure ^_^ in the past it's been tedious cd/dvd burning...

    Wed 2008/08/20 23:54:31 JST (ID #272025)
    reply to meronpan's comment
  • Ulrezaj
    Ulrezaj in Toronto, Canada (Registered on 2008/01/07)
    IT Architect

    In my field you quickly learn how important backups are. And I mean live ones, not to optical. If you lose 1TB of data that you archived optically, it'll take 20 blu-ray disks and several hours to recover it (not even going to talk about standard DVD ;)
    If you have a backup drive though, just pop it in and away you go.

    Thu 2008/08/21 00:12:54 JST (ID #272035)
    reply to Ulrezaj's comment
    • Calan
      Calan in Canada (Registered on 2008/05/24)
      Student
      http://www.tecurious.com

      Indeed, I recently had a drive failure in a server at an office, and even though the harddrive was <100gb (was a SCSI) and I had made regular optical backups, it still was a pain to get everything restored and working again. Looking into upgrading that setup to a RAID1+0, and from there keeping a backup drive or two to carry off-site regularly.

      Thu 2008/08/21 09:59:24 JST (ID #272715)
      reply to Calan's comment
  • Edward
    Edward in SE Michigan/Osaka (Registered on 2006/12/24)
    Troubleshooter, Universal Exports
    http://funkyblueame.tumblr.com/

    DL (Dual Layer) is 50 GB and SL (Single Layer) is half that size. Only problem is most RE (Record/Erase) disc I have seen are SL and not DL. Have you seen BD-RE DL disc in Tokyo? I was pricing players back in June while in Osaka. There is not much selection here in the states yet in the way of burners and disc are too expensive.

    Right now, I have a 1TB drive -attached to my Airport Extreme using Time Machine- and use three HDs to clone my two Macs OSX partitions. I keep the Windows partitions backed up to DVD. I was thinking about going to a network 1TB RAID...

    I don't keep every series I watch so I usually back up those up to DVD-R DL disc or dumped to an HD. Most other files are moved to DVD. I'm very conservative about what I back up since I can't keep everything. What really worries me the most is my music and photo libraries. Both are very quickly becoming too large to back up. Right now I only back up purchased music and important iTunes files and photos to DVD. In the future I made move these to a RAID.

    Thu 2008/08/21 00:15:43 JST (ID #272036)
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  • hikky
    hikky in Austria (NOT Australia!) (Registered on 2008/05/19)
    NEET
    http://austrianotaku.com/

    I don't back up very much cause I need those ???-TB for my stuff. I just make Time-Machine backups to restore the OS without problems @ my Second PC and Vista-Complete-PC Backups from my system-partition @ my main-system sometimes. I don't want to back up things on DVD's or Bluerays cause I hate those small, slow opticial storage things.

    Are you using Time Machine, Danny?
    Cause I think that's the best Backup-solution out there.

    And yeah, there are sites with nearly every series :)

    Thu 2008/08/21 00:21:08 JST (ID #272041)
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    • Danny Choo
      Danny Choo in Tokyo (Registered on 2006/12/11)
      CEO MIrai Inc
      http://www.dannychoo.com/profile/eng/

      Am using time machine but what if the time machine HD fails? Me need to think of a fail safe solution.

      Thu 2008/08/21 03:47:26 JST (ID #272195)
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      • hikky
        hikky in Austria (NOT Australia!) (Registered on 2008/05/19)
        NEET
        http://austrianotaku.com/

        Well, but do you think your none-backup drives are dying at the same time as your "normal" HDs?

        The best solution I can think of is a Raid-fileserver, but having 2,6TB of stuff and running out of space soon, it would be a expensive solution. I'll pray to the Geek-God that my files won't die until I have somthing like that. ;)

        Thu 2008/08/21 04:54:50 JST (ID #272270)
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        • hikky
          hikky in Austria (NOT Australia!) (Registered on 2008/05/19)
          NEET
          http://austrianotaku.com/

          I mean: " Well, but do you think your Time Machine HDs drives are dying at the same time as your normal HDs? "

          sry, it's 3am here^^

          Thu 2008/08/21 04:56:45 JST (ID #272274)
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      • thegeek
        thegeek in Northern California, United States (Registered on 2007/03/26)
        Geek Liaison
        http://www.thegeekreview.com

        Well there is no true fail safe solution but the odd of your main drive and your time machine drive failing at the same time are pretty darn high.

        I can't swing a Blu-ray drive right now but the DVD backups I do make are mainly for off-site backup. Cause no matter how many back-ups you have if they are all stored in the same house one good fire and your boned.

        Thu 2008/08/21 10:40:56 JST (ID #272808)
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  • Kozta-Boom
    Kozta-Boom in Coconut cream pie world (Registered on 2008/06/25)
    Spartan
    http://www.ryobase.com

    I always use an external HDD for backup my PC. I can't trust something like DVDs. >,<"

    Thu 2008/08/21 00:43:39 JST (ID #272053)
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  • Dcg
    Dcg in Berkeley, CA (Registered on 2007/12/17)
    College Student

    I'd backup on DVDRs if I had better organization of my doujinshi collection. It's hard to rifle through all the stuff I had before I learned to use original filenames, renaming, purging duplicates, etc etc... especially with several thousand doujinshi. With anime I try to keep them to DVDs, but sometimes they get a few megs over and I get testy about whether I should reencode some, use an overfill CD, or if it's worth burning. I keep my large capacity drives external so I can regulate how long and how often they get used. Maybe it's some naive peace of mind.

    If you want whole series, you might be lucky and find something on a torrent index in some dark corner of the internet.

    Thu 2008/08/21 00:51:29 JST (ID #272060)
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  • Ecchi Goshujin-sama
    Ecchi Goshujin-sama in Charlotte, NC (Registered on 2008/08/09)
    Ecchi Otaku
    http://aniverse.info/

    My current method of backups are DVD-Rs right now but that will change in the next month or so to HDDs. Since collecting anime series, music, h-games, and software take a lot of space really quickly, having an external HDD would come in handy. Currently i'm thinking of a plan of building another computer to be used as a file server, using a large tower that could contain many HDDs at the same time so i would be able to access the backup data through the network instead of having to "plug-in" the HDD every time i need it.

    Thu 2008/08/21 01:02:18 JST (ID #272069)
    reply to Ecchi Goshujin-sama's comment
  • Ashper
    Ashper in Worcester, U.K (Registered on 2007/11/24)
    Post-Grad
    http://www.ashper.co.uk

    There is a 6 TB fileserver running raid 5 sat under my stairs :D, so if a HDD does die i just grab a new one and everything is restored automatically... Also i attend a LAN party every 6 weeks and we all essentially have complete clones of each others fileservers so if anything majorly goes wrong i can always get it back in no time.

    Thu 2008/08/21 01:23:12 JST (ID #272079)
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  • xjaymanx
    xjaymanx in Vegas, baby! (Registered on 2006/12/29)
    Technical Writer/Editor, Designer, Collector, Artist, Nice Guy
    http://www.xjaymanx.com/toyboxx

    Yeah, definitely sux when that happens.

    Just recently, I had a Western Digital 500GB external USB drive which died on me after 12 months. So I'm just sticking with their smaller but more-reliable WD 100-120 GB sizes. As for downloads and/or personal backups, I've burned hundreds of 4GB DVD discs. The only problem is their rumored 5-to-10-year lifespan before they degrade; but no matter, the solution is just to re-burn them again.

    Don't know the degradation rate of Blu-Rays, but your massive HD sizes are a totally different dilemma from mine. Sorry I can't help! ^_^;

    P.S. Like "WiseFreeman" mentions above, Ipswitch has an online solution called "Carbonite" (a la Han Solo, lol). Might wanna check it out.

    Thu 2008/08/21 01:33:08 JST (ID #272080)
    reply to xjaymanx's comment
  • Phenie
    Phenie in Aichi (Registered on 2007/01/08)
    Catgirl Trainer.
    http://www.phenie.com

    Luckily, I've never had a problem with a hard drive dying. I don't really backup things other than important documents and stuff (which are normally small enough for a quick FTP back up.), Most of the stuff I'd want backed up I normally pass on to others... so if I ever lose it I can just get it back from them ^^;

    And I'm surprised how cheap Blu-ray disks are there... a 5-pack of 25GB Blu-ray disks are around (an equivalent of) ¥10000 here.

    Thu 2008/08/21 01:51:05 JST (ID #272088)
    reply to Phenie's comment
  • KyokoHunter
    KyokoHunter in UK (Registered on 2008/06/08)
    Civil Servant
    http://kyokohunter.net/

    I depend on HDDs, as I hate the idea of hundreds of thousands of DVDs scattered all over the place. I tend to duplicate data across my PCs, as well as using memory sticks and a basic NAS (thanks Netgear) that unfortunately is a bit slow. I like XJAYMANX's idea of using smaller hard drives, especially if you can get your hands on server-grade HDDs (despite the extra cost).

    Thu 2008/08/21 02:14:00 JST (ID #272102)
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  • Ben-Ohki
    Ben-Ohki in Ottawa - Canada (Registered on 2007/12/03)
    Programmer
    http://benohki.blogspot.com

    Wow... Blu-Ray media got cheap without me paying attention. I wish drives would go down in price around these parts.
    Right now my primary machine is a sweet new laptop and I spend the weekend backing up everything from my PC to it (I know it's kinda backward). But at least now I've got everything in two places (more or less).

    Thu 2008/08/21 02:14:11 JST (ID #272103)
    reply to Ben-Ohki's comment
  • Joe1991
    Joe1991 in London (Registered on 2007/11/22)
    Student
    http://www.joesblog.jp

    I have never backed up anything in my life...never lost anything either :D

    Thu 2008/08/21 02:23:06 JST (ID #272115)
    reply to Joe1991's comment
  • MARl0
    MARl0 in United States (Registered on 2007/11/16)
    Graphic Designer

    I usually just back up most of my stuff on DVDs. But I also have a second internal HD that I use Time Machine to back everything up onto. I love how user friendly Time Machine is for retrieving lost files and such.

    Thu 2008/08/21 02:24:23 JST (ID #272116)
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  • Kilkrazy
    Kilkrazy in London (Registered on 2008/04/17)
    Producer

    Buy some cheap, big hard disks and make yourself a RAID. If you have a Mac, the RAID software is built into OSX. You can probably get it as shareware on Windows.

    Non-technical people can buy ready-made RAID units which you just plug in. They are more expensive.

    A 500GB RAID will hold many hours of compressed video.

    Thu 2008/08/21 02:31:26 JST (ID #272121)
    reply to Kilkrazy's comment
  • wickedclown
    wickedclown in California (Registered on 2007/12/07)
    Programmer/IT/Student
    http://wickedotaku.blogspot.com/

    I'm guilty of not backing up. I have very little means of doing so in the first place. I could burn to dvd but that means any changes I make to data can't be copied to the dvd, and I usually make many changes, constantly adding more files, using important files, adding more music. I'm in the process of convincing my mom that we need a NAS, we have 3 desktops and 3 laptops, none of them are backed up. We definitely need a NAS.

    Thu 2008/08/21 02:44:37 JST (ID #272133)
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  • Henry
    Henry in /usr/bin/ (Registered on 2006/12/25)
    anime/cosplay events organizer
    http://www.cosplay.ph

    I burn all of my backups on DVD-Rs which is cheap and can just be stored cleanly on my cabinet.

    I've been thinking of moving to HDD backups and buy some cheap desktop HDDs since I think that's much more cheaper compared to DVD-R backup

    Thu 2008/08/21 02:45:11 JST (ID #272135)
    reply to Henry's comment
  • NPC
    NPC in Rocklin, CA (Registered on 2007/12/06)
    JR. College Student
    http://npc.talkingincircles.net/

    I burn watched anime off to DVDs and then delete them from my harddrive. I think it's a waste to have it sit there taking up space forever while I go on to watch something completely different. Unless of course the series is golden. Then I make an exception.

    ...Unfortunately my music/recording library alone is getting too big for my puny harddrives!

    Thu 2008/08/21 02:57:25 JST (ID #272142)
    reply to NPC's comment
  • sharky
    sharky in NCF (Registered on 2007/09/13)
    Ha!

    I had one time that my HD died and don't have the back up. It hurts. Now I try to keep copied of the files I need on multiple HD on one computers and most of the pictures and stuff on multiple computers. It is a pain some times and I am a little behind now.
    Hopefully I'll catch up before anythign goes crap..

    Thu 2008/08/21 03:07:13 JST (ID #272154)
    reply to sharky's comment
  • xembryox
    xembryox in Venezuela? (Registered on 2007/12/02)
    student of life, pc technician.
    http://morsa-dan-85.livejournal.com/

    oh the crappy moment when u see ur backup HD dead...such thing just happened to me yesterday... as for backups I recommend several formats: DVDs, [ blue rays if are available ], a dedicated HD [ which someday will fail as well =( ] and an online solution. I discovered some place who offers 5 GBs to upload any kind of file, and 25 GBs for vid, pic, and audio files. Hey that's the free option, paid options offer moar space for your "health care files" ;). ohh right the site is: www.humyo.com hope it helps.

    Thu 2008/08/21 03:18:02 JST (ID #272166)
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  • makotokonno
    makotokonno (Registered on 2007/11/25)
    University Student

    Dell had a sale earlier this year.. 500GB external HD for 100$ so glad i got it :)

    Thu 2008/08/21 04:17:51 JST (ID #272226)
    reply to makotokonno's comment
  • Grass Jelly
    Grass Jelly in S.California (Registered on 2008/07/26)
    Pirate

    Back up? What's that? ... j/k

    What exactly are you guys backing up that you need terabytes of storage space? I can understand if it involves your line of work (i.e. what Danny does). Hmmm? Suspicious. ^_^;

    Thu 2008/08/21 04:37:30 JST (ID #272255)
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  • Guin
    Guin in college,..... (Registered on 2008/01/16)
    Web Surfer, 大学生 【だいがくせい】
    http://aoiichiguin.blogspot.com/

    speaking of backups: WHich program do you guys use to do your backups? I have Roxio. But last time it didn't burn all the files i put on there.

    Thu 2008/08/21 04:44:13 JST (ID #272261)
    reply to Guin's comment
  • Fabian
    Fabian in Germany (Registered on 2008/01/08)
    student

    I make a backup of my data about once a week and store it on my external HDD. Additionally I burn the most important data on a CD or DVD once in a while.

    Thu 2008/08/21 04:52:13 JST (ID #272265)
    reply to Fabian's comment
  • BandAiD
    BandAiD in 米国 (Registered on 2008/01/08)
    C. Engineering Student
    http://otaku.baywords.com

    Wow bluray is cheap over there! For one disc it's about 16-20 dollars here in the US.

    Thu 2008/08/21 05:16:59 JST (ID #272301)
    reply to BandAiD's comment
  • coffeebugg
    coffeebugg in coherently lucid (Registered on 2008/05/22)
    Otari Vader, Sith Lord for Hire, will fillet Makoto Itou for free
    http://coffeebugg.blogspot.com/

    Most often than not, I burn what videos, pics or mp3 to DVD's and leave on my hard drive only the most frequently used stuff. and for master file back up I have an external HDD which contains only the most important stuff.

    Thu 2008/08/21 05:24:18 JST (ID #272315)
    reply to coffeebugg's comment
  • necrophadian
    necrophadian in a transitionary phase of existence (Registered on 2007/04/22)
    -1
    http://necrophadian.blogspot.com/

    i need to pickup another external drive, my current one is almost full and about only 50% of it has been backed up. never had the displeasure of having any of my HDs fail yet though.

    Thu 2008/08/21 05:52:00 JST (ID #272363)
    reply to necrophadian's comment
  • PoWeR
    PoWeR in Vancouver (Registered on 2007/08/28)
    Student
    http://www.xfire.com/profile/power1x1/

    Well the trick to prolonging your HDD's life is just to turn your PC off whenever your not using it --_-- ... and maybe some cooling lol (personally have another machine liquid cooled X_x )

    Thu 2008/08/21 06:16:02 JST (ID #272387)
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  • The Lyrical Loli
    The Lyrical Loli in Los Angeles, California, U.S. (Registered on 2007/10/14)
    Kokoro Kotonoha's personal trainer
    http://loli1983.wordpress.com

    Yeah I need to start making back-ups soon on either external HD's or discs or i'll be one sad son of a .......

    The problem right now is my budget. It's really bad right now.

    Thu 2008/08/21 06:31:14 JST (ID #272389)
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  • Len-Vesper
    Len-Vesper in Quebec City, Canada (Registered on 2008/02/16)
    Network Architect, Administrator, Vmware Guru
    http://www.finetoo.org/

    Aaaah, the loathesome Maxtor drives. Maxtors of certain generations are well known for their sudden short stops and failures.

    I don't so much as run a backup as I do operate on a basic raid. I use mirroring in my case, and my server uses a 1+0 setup for mirror-basic stripe. Helps keep things sane when one drive goes take a brake-less bike ride downhill too close to the train lines. :x

    Other than that, I only burn things off as I get close to being too full.

    Thu 2008/08/21 06:37:00 JST (ID #272393)
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    • lost_packet
      lost_packet in US (Registered on 2008/01/28)
      IT/System Admin

      You know RAID is not a backup. :)

      I wish I had a dollar for everyone running a RAID5 array that thought it was all they needed...and then they get multiple drive crashes, or lightning strikes......all data lost.

      Thu 2008/08/21 06:48:18 JST (ID #272406)
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      • Len-Vesper
        Len-Vesper in Quebec City, Canada (Registered on 2008/02/16)
        Network Architect, Administrator, Vmware Guru
        http://www.finetoo.org/

        I know raid is not a backup. o_o It says it in the second line of my comment. XD

        I run raid as a laze-excuse to not have to do full backups of my system except the stuff I want to burn. So the important stuff remains preserved, the expendable stuff comes and goes.

        Thu 2008/08/21 07:18:06 JST (ID #272434)
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  • Neku
    Neku in Surrey BC Canada NA Earth (Registered on 2008/06/01)
    Vampire
    http://feeout.blogspot.com/

    I would say I'm pretty lucky, I've never had a HD just suddenly die. I have an old (I'm talking really old, 20gb hd) glitch on me but I was able to transfer data off of it so that was fine.

    Thu 2008/08/21 06:41:21 JST (ID #272399)
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  • marvin
    marvin (Registered on 2006/12/24)
    http://www.marvinryan.com

    Danny, here something you might want to try, freeze fixing your drive:
    http://www.gearlog.com/2007/11/its_really_most_sincerely_dead.php
    just in case you have some data in there you need to recover. it'll work for just a few minutes though, however a few minutes is all you'll probably need to copy your more important files to another hard drive.

    Thu 2008/08/21 06:43:22 JST (ID #272401)
    reply to marvin's comment
  • lost_packet
    lost_packet in US (Registered on 2008/01/28)
    IT/System Admin

    If you want a good solution, you need to spend $$$$ and get SAS drives and a controller card. The MTBF (mean time before failure) on any enterprise drive is at least double a normal drive you buy. (it doesn't need to be SAS to be enterprise class).

    The problem is cost. The controller card is expensive as are the drives, BUT they last much much longer.

    On a side note, don't run enterprise drives in anything but a SAS or SCSI setup. The error rate recovery for enterprise is 8ms, then it quits trying. This is because the SAS or SCSI card is expected to do the recovery (and always does). If you run that type of drive in a normal PC, you can have high loss rates. On a consumer SATA drive the error recover time is 80-100ms because there is no SAS or SCSI card that will do the recovery. I say this because you can get SATA enterprise drives, but they are really meant to be run in an array.

    Thu 2008/08/21 06:46:00 JST (ID #272404)
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    • x33b
      x33b in Chicago (Registered on 2007/11/23)
      Network Admin

      The easiest and most practical solution is just to backup to a external drive. You can set a full back up, incremental, or differential depending on your needs. Both drives are not going to go down at the same time. Who uses a raid array for backup solutions? Seriously?

      Thu 2008/08/21 08:13:02 JST (ID #272521)
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    • Calan
      Calan in Canada (Registered on 2008/05/24)
      Student
      http://www.tecurious.com

      I have 4x500gb enterprise-class Western Digital drives in a RAID5. Am I doing it wrong, then?

      Thu 2008/08/21 10:19:09 JST (ID #272770)
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  • lazyasian224
    lazyasian224 in New York, USA (Registered on 2008/07/21)
    Student

    i cant decide whether it would be worth it to go out and buy a blu-ray drive for backing up purposes, or just to get a new HDD

    Thu 2008/08/21 06:59:46 JST (ID #272416)
    reply to lazyasian224's comment
  • CaTZ
    CaTZ in Indonesia (Registered on 2007/02/10)
    Game Designer & 2D Artist
    http://catzstudio.blogspot.com/

    I backup the most crucial parts and divide them to categories, such as art books, games, series, pr0n....

    Thu 2008/08/21 08:07:09 JST (ID #272513)
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  • zephi
    zephi in Sydney, Australia (Registered on 2008/04/26)
    student
    http://zephi-san.deviantart.com/

    Whilst reading this article, I'm starting to backup some files on to my unused HDD now since I feel that my current backup HDD is near the end of its life...

    In the past I would prioritize anime to be backed up as soon as I finished watching the series. Lack of storage space was the reason why I backed up files so frequently. I would burn them on to 4.7gb DVD's, Only problem was, after a few years when I want to rewatch them I find the DVD is partially degraded. Some end up not readable.

    Thu 2008/08/21 09:00:04 JST (ID #272593)
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  • Calan
    Calan in Canada (Registered on 2008/05/24)
    Student
    http://www.tecurious.com

    Used to have the following:
    2x300gb HDDs
    1x200gb HDD

    Put those to use elsewhere, and upgraded to
    1x500gb
    4x500gb in RAID5
    The theory there was that I would store everything of value (things that couldn't easily be re-downloaded, re-installed... or like digicam pictures, etc) on the RAID5 which theoretically is safe, and then the rest on the 500gb.

    Recently was both running out of space and needed a new harddrive for another computer. Figured I'd get a 1tb to replace the 500gb, and put the 500gb into the other computer.
    Now, however, I have almost as much stuff NOT secured (that is, not on the RAID5) as I do secured.
    If I had more money I would upgrade my computer to have 3 or 4 1tb drives in a RAID5, then 2x1tb in a RAID1. This would offer me security, performance, and storage capacity.

    I don't back up anime to DVDs as I have had many bad experiences with burning things to DVDs only to find that when I try to use the DVDs they are corrupt, etc. Backing up to Blu-ray is enticing, but as you can see, right now I have 2.5tb of storage. That's not very easy to back up any way you slice it - thus RAID is the best option for me, I think.

    Thu 2008/08/21 09:44:30 JST (ID #272688)
    reply to Calan's comment
  • Realta Nua
    Realta Nua in Jakarta / Singapore (Registered on 2007/10/19)
    University Student
    http://plurk.com/Fuyumachi/invite

    Only a 100GB - HDD laptop. .

    I will use external HDD, and burn animes in DVDs, perhaps..

    Thu 2008/08/21 09:59:17 JST (ID #272714)
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  • ChimeraTheory
    ChimeraTheory in South Africa (Registered on 2008/07/23)
    Web Developer
    http://www.ecchi.co.za/

    I backup pretty regularly: I backup to flash drive (4GB) on a daily basis, and then a full backup for that week onto my external HDD at the end of every week. Backup is good. I know of people who have lost a huge amount of important data because of failure to backup. The results are not pretty.

    Thu 2008/08/21 10:02:47 JST (ID #272726)
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  • suki
    suki in Cape Town, South Africa (Registered on 2007/08/22)
    Graphic Design student | Receptionist | Otaku
    http://sukidesho.blogspot.com/

    I have an extra HDD for backups but... it's the same one I use to stash all my anime, manga and eroge so...
    It's a bit tough to have it all on one HDD. I have learned that dvd's are bad, with that whole 'cyclic redundency check' error and all ^^;

    Thu 2008/08/21 10:04:01 JST (ID #272730)
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  • BeLe
    BeLe in Davao, Philippines (Registered on 2007/01/03)
    .NET/Web Developer
    http://scrumptious.animeblogger.net

    My backup's backup are always stored on optical media simply because they last longer than HDDs imo. Most HDDs have a lifespan of 5 years or less that's why I keep my precious data on dvds. My only complain though is that these dvds can really pile up

    Thu 2008/08/21 10:04:40 JST (ID #272732)
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  • spatecc-kun
    spatecc-kun in Mexico CIty (Registered on 2008/08/21)
    Genius at work
    http://gashapon.com.mx

    I work on a data recovery firm. I think there are many companies who can restore your data (but it will be expensive). There is no perfect backup plan, we receive a great number of USB disks in what people store their valuable information, but they are very delicate and even a little fall can damage the inner components. Every hard disk is an electromechanic device, subject to stress, heat, surges, smashes, flood, etc. Even if you choose RAID or DVDs, a disaster still can occur. I think you can do your backups easily (try Cobian backup, freeware), save your data in different locations, use carbonite-like services, say your prayers, pay your dues, eat vegetables and dont love too much your info!

    Thu 2008/08/21 10:26:56 JST (ID #272789)
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  • silent1134
    silent1134 in Los Angeles, California (Registered on 2007/08/22)
    ???Confused???

    I use to only have an external HD, but I back up stuff on DVD-R, I prolly do blu-ray when it gets cheaper in the future...

    Thu 2008/08/21 11:05:00 JST (ID #272862)
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  • mel
    mel in NY (Registered on 2008/02/05)
    otaku-ist
    http://myanimelist.net/profile/mel

    I will never buy another Maxtor Drive again, mine died a few months ago also, searching on the web and people also have the same problem with Maxtor drives.

    Thu 2008/08/21 11:25:58 JST (ID #272893)
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  • GnuoyKun
    GnuoyKun in Santo Ângelo, RS, Brazil (Registered on 2008/05/12)
    Computer Science Student
    http://gnuoykun.bebo.com

    I mostly burn everything to DVDs, since my connection with the intarwebz isn't that big ^^"

    Thu 2008/08/21 11:43:42 JST (ID #272912)
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  • squallsgriever
    squallsgriever in jordan (Registered on 2008/08/21)
    computer science Student / Programmer

    hi all i think the best way to to save your backup is tp buy an 160GB ipod and use it as an external HD coz you know the ipod dont die easily but,the only problem is the price of the ipod but if its important data then the mony wont be a problem, so i think its the best way to save your backup coz i use it and its not that bad

    Thu 2008/08/21 12:06:15 JST (ID #272945)
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  • DrGUID
    DrGUID in London (Registered on 2007/11/14)
    Web Developer (i.e. Otaku)
    http://www.brettb.com/TravelLog.Tokyo.asp

    If that kawaii girl spills her coke on your HDD you're looking for trouble.

    Thu 2008/08/21 12:37:35 JST (ID #272967)
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  • adan
    adan in Fiber Optic, Indonesia (Registered on 2007/06/11)
    Web Designer
    http://eropanda.aoindonesia.net

    I used 6x500GB HDDs for my backup... ahh lots stuff need to be saved.

    Thu 2008/08/21 13:20:22 JST (ID #272998)
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  • Freya
    Freya in 東京都 (Registered on 2007/01/11)
    CG映像専門学生
    http://slyphnier.atelier-freya.net/

    from what i know blu-ray recorder drives still have outrages price... its cost around 120.000yen if last time i check... at least until mid next year i expect the price still higher than 100k
    HDD maybe the best solution rightnow (in term reliability+usage as you can write as much as you want)... as 500mb WD/Seagate drives cost only around 6000yen (standard desktop line/type)

    for the cheapest way... buy good drive (new Pioneer S-J16 looks good), burn DVD-DL (dual layer 8gb) imo

    other than that... entry level tape recorder might good for backup-ing since tape technology rarely changed

    for me... still using DVD-R to backup files.. to make sure the reliability, i use good dvd-r such as TDK Durabis line and writted them in 4x speed only
    for files that often updated such as software/patch... i backup them on DVD-RAM (BD-RAM should awesome when available)

    Thu 2008/08/21 13:38:10 JST (ID #273011)
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  • Schrimp
    Schrimp in France (Registered on 2008/08/20)
    Programmer

    Only do backups for thing I can't re-have elsewhere. Like part of prog-line or stories I made. Other things like video can be re-download :)

    Thu 2008/08/21 16:43:13 JST (ID #273144)
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  • Actar
    Actar in front of his Laptop, trapped in Singapore (Registered on 2008/05/27)
    Video Reviewer of Anime Figures, Mecha and Merch (youtube.com/user/Actar576295)
    http://actar.wordpress.com

    I have 2 external HDs. One that keeps on getting corrupted files. I store all the anime in the WD drive, the original copy, and back up on DVD and on the other drive.

    I do not have any anime on my 2 main drives. Mostly programs, videos, pics and games on those.

    Thu 2008/08/21 18:00:44 JST (ID #273200)
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  • radical anime fan
    radical anime fan in Singapore, Furnace City, Cinderblock Outskirts. (Registered on 2007/01/25)
    Polytechnic Junior, Bronze Lifesaving Trainee, Mech Designer In-training.
    http://thehangerbay.wordpress.com/

    I don't back up my stuff at all....
    That's bad, right?

    Thu 2008/08/21 18:51:12 JST (ID #273252)
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    • Skye
      Skye in Washington D.C. (Registered on 2007/12/21)
      Student

      Sure is. I just lost about 40GB of music, pictures and some anime. I lost everything. Now I wish I had bought that external hard drive when I had the chance. I had in my Favorites a link to a page in Wikipedia style that gave links for many series of anime to download but I lost everything and I don't remember the site.

      Fri 2008/08/22 01:14:22 JST (ID #273636)
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    • lostandfound
      lostandfound in Singapore (Registered on 2007/10/21)
      Hikikomori in the making
      http://supermariabros.deviantart.com/

      You're not alone! I don't back up too!

      Fri 2008/08/22 16:25:07 JST (ID #274505)
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  • Snare
    Snare in Horsham, England (Registered on 2008/04/30)
    Pre-Press Technician

    Backup is always such a pain, there really needs to be some innovation in the area!

    At work we have an Overland device with 400gb tapes, we still lose data on a regular occurance due to power cuts, in-compatibility and lack of space.

    Anyway, I think that something like a Blue Ray (with a backup of itself somewhere else) would be a good bet :)

    Thu 2008/08/21 19:30:11 JST (ID #273349)
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  • MS pilot
    MS pilot in (somewhere in the desert) (Registered on 2008/05/14)
    Mine Layer

    We usually use external hard disks here. 1 Terra byte cost around 19000 Yen. Cheap!

    Thu 2008/08/21 19:34:52 JST (ID #273361)
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  • Mikuni
    Mikuni in Finland (Registered on 2008/05/15)
    Student

    I only backup the drive where my OS is to external disk, rest are on their own. Haven't had any HD's that would have failed so bad I wasn't able to get the data back before the disk was totally dead. I wouldn't backup anything if I had to do it manually but Leopard's Time Machine is such an easy-to-use program that as long as I have the drive space there's no reason why I wouldn't keep it on.

    About the magical place for series, www.boxtorrents.com is that magical place. It's great place for completed series and has reliable seeds.

    Thu 2008/08/21 20:15:21 JST (ID #273415)
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  • Harts
    Harts in Estonia (Registered on 2008/06/02)
    Student

    I back up everything useful (documents, pictures, game saves etc)to external hard drive from all the computers in my family (currently 2 desktops and 3 laptops) regularly every Friday evening. Software-side I use Norton Ghost to make backup images of hard drives. It is a lot faster than copying hundreds of small files. Because of that, I usually hold all of the important stuff in one given computer on one drive (usually not the system drive), so only one drive must be backed up. But if needed, I back up the system drive too for fast recovery. I usually don't hold a longer backup archive than 2 backups for a computer. So drive space for backups in not an issue yet:)

    Thu 2008/08/21 21:28:23 JST (ID #273485)
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  • manga
    manga in Sydney (Registered on 2008/06/27)
    Student
    http://bk201.wordpress.com/

    DVD for the time being. Fingers crossed that my stuff dont magically burn!

    Fri 2008/08/22 01:58:58 JST (ID #273670)
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  • SpiritAngelo
    SpiritAngelo in Singapore (Registered on 2008/05/22)
    Technical Support Specialist
    http://www.fallenhaven.per.sg

    NAS with Mirror Raids ~
    I am using those with 500gb mirror ~
    Need more space ? Another NAS with 500gb hdd x 2 ~

    Fri 2008/08/22 05:06:10 JST (ID #273846)
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  • wildquaker
    wildquaker in Philippines (Registered on 2008/08/12)
    Web Developer
    http://wildquaker.blogspot.com

    I think burning it to Blu Rays would be much safer. That's at least what I think anyway. It's just too much work for HDs. Not mentioning it's cheaper too.

    Fri 2008/08/22 09:15:11 JST (ID #274137)
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  • andra
    andra in Singapore (Registered on 2007/11/06)
    中学生
    http://thezhukeeper.blogspot.com

    only use a piece of 500gb external hdd ^^;

    Fri 2008/08/22 17:22:59 JST (ID #274541)
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  • notfair
    notfair in Malaysia (Registered on 2007/08/14)
    Student, ACG Fans
    http://modvisc.blogspot.com

    I usually burn into DVDRs, but the new and fresh data will be in my HD for a while(few days to few weeks), unwanted data will gone.

    Fri 2008/08/22 18:01:58 JST (ID #274569)
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  • SPaulMac
    SPaulMac in Kentucky, United States (Registered on 2007/10/12)

    Lots of hard drives, especially now with Apple's Time Machine making it so easy. I currently have just under 3TB of drives backing up the 4 active computers in the house. I've also used SuperDuper! with a great deal success for automated backups. Even all this is no guarantee I won't lose something eventually.

    Sun 2008/08/24 05:01:23 JST (ID #276178)
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  • ~char~
    ~char~ in here! (Registered on 2008/09/11)
    Informatics(ComSci-ish) student/self-taught graphic designer and illustrator
    http://picchar.cerestia.net

    I don't have a back-up... XD
    I need external drives >.>
    I have too many video files XD (anime mostly, plus images and scans (of my own illus))

    Thu 2008/09/11 20:40:08 JST (ID #298296)
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  • GreenVirus
    GreenVirus in C:Windows (Registered on 2009/01/21)
    Student / Wannabe Artist
    http://tsundereworks.wordpress.com

    2TB Seagate HDD 7200 RPM 64MB Cache [2 X 1000 GB]

    RAID-1 & Time Machine on Leopard

    Currently 86% Full. Damn, what the hell do I download?

    Sat 2009/02/21 03:29:42 JST (ID #496740)
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  • Neutron
    Neutron in A place with many dangerous materials. (Registered on 2008/11/17)
    Simple Program Creator, 3D Designer (Without animation), Flammable Organic Gas Producer, Oxygen consumer

    woowowow....yah.
    i think i need to send all of my data to my rewritable DVD.....

    be careful danny....

    Mon 2009/02/23 15:29:31 JST (ID #499687)
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  • StuperRicco
    StuperRicco in Montreal, Canuck-ville (aka Canada) (Registered on 2008/07/01)
    buffer

    I burn anime fansubs and MP3s on DVD-R and pics on CD-R as backup (in case something happens or if I need to format) mostly considering the fact that I have like 8 USB keys (around 18GB, 2 of them are 256 and one is 512MB), which I use for saving other applications. Hooray for CD-Rs and DVD-Rs.

    Wed 2009/02/25 10:20:28 JST (ID #501686)
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  • Patrick Barron
    Patrick Barron in Michigan, United States of America (Registered on 2008/02/09)
    Grocery Store Clerk

    Trying to back up your system is nest to impossiable to do. My dad used to be an IT manager adn it really very hard to do. With updates on tons of applications and programs the idex becomes obsolete fast.

    I just back up some of my documents and media file the old fashion way and keep it an exteran hard drive. I only back up a few program files.

    Thu 2009/02/26 09:47:57 JST (ID #502578)
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  • shorts
    shorts in Australia (Registered on 2009/01/27)
    Apple Computer Technician

    Time Machine and DL DVD for important archives. That ice cube case looks exactly like mine! (minus the figure) Ive given up on the outer casing...

    Mon 2009/07/06 16:27:23 JST (ID #668548)
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  • game861
    game861 in United States (Registered on 2008/09/16)

    I just use normal CD-R's

    Fri 2009/07/17 17:04:18 JST (ID #679039)
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