You are not good enough

Plan B: Show the folks my car.

yikes ^^; while I feel bad for the guy, I feel his pain about everyday stuff getting inflated ^^; I do wish rather than getting depressed, if he really love his GF he may wish to try to find ways to make more $? While I feel that the parents have their daughter's well being above all, they should not expect her to completely rely on the guy for a living ^^;

Absolutely despicable, I didn't know that generation of the Japanese were still like that.

Plus that guy needs to stand up for himself, I suppose love counts for nothing these days. Just Kane.

You always see things like this happen in anime, I never would have thought they occur in real life as well x_x

at least if hes tryin his hardest to earn money, the parents should at least give him a chance, any chance they see him being lazy and using money on his favorite stuff, thats when they should say that

Poor guy somehow... and Chun said pretty much everything... once again. :P
But does $ really matter more then true love? Mhhhh!
I rather know my daugther being happy and healthy then being with a rich idiot who does horrible things. <.<

ouch that is the worst pride hitter ever. Then again it is understandable that the parents would not want their daughter to be with him, thinking of her future. However, laughing at him about it (if they did) is a bit extreme.

That's horrible, Danny, did you go through something siilar!!!!

if the money is so important for these parent, i wonder why they didn't ask the salary of the guy directly to their daughter instead of humiliating the poor guy like this. No wonder that the average birth rate are decreasing in japan when you see story like that

Reality bites... really hard ! X'D

So her parents turn him down, get depressed, and writes about it... i pity him.

but he shoul'da bite back at her parents, saying "to the darkest pits of Tartarus you go ! i love her and to me, money isn't everything..."

IT may sound cliché, but he gotta stand up for himself (we'll all go through that situation someday). Happens to every guy or girl, whatever place or culture. Fight for your love or die (in shame) in the attempt.

Chill out, think of impressing them, or just persist, is the advice i'd give him. Best of luck to him & he better work that problem out soon... or else he'll end up a hikikomori. X'D

At the first thought I really feel bad for the guy, but thinking about it I can kind of see why the parents turned him down. They just want their daughter to be in good hands.
That being sad it was a bit harsh to laugh at him...I really hope things would be ok later.
I would hope a relationship would not end due to a simple money issue.

Elope

Well, with how prices are going up these days and the fact that he's in living Japan where people say is one of the most expensive countries to live in, I wouldn't be surprised if his GF's parents turn him down after hearing the amount he earns.

He should try and get a better job. That is, if he really does love the girl. Also, the girl should convince her parents that she truly does love the guy and that she would assist each other financially when they get married. I mean c'mon, that's what REAL love is. Then again, REAL love is RARE nowadays -_-

man that's tough.
but love conquers all! ....most of the time

Just hope that he doesn't go on a killing spree

So long as she is happy being with him and him her, then they should not worry about what their parents think if money is all they think of when wanting their offspring to marry.

Funny they have the nerve to ask that. Here in the US it's frowned upon if you ask someone how much they make a year, it's not polite behavior. I'd be pissed if this happened to me.

If the girl looks like the pictured Sairenji Haruna here, then it is definitly not good enough.

Thats harsh. Of course he shouldn't break up with her because of her snotty parents. If they really love each other then I'm sure they will both find a way to make due. If they both work they can support each other, and thats really what marriage should be about. Loving each other to the point where you would willingly make sacrifices to support the one you love the most.

Here's another idea: Maybe his girlfriend should split up with her parents because they are f*cking assholes.

Poor chap. I can understand where the parents are coming from though, since I've been subjected to that condescending attitude before ;-;

I can understand the parents reacting the way they did, though it could and should have been handled differently. They shouldn't have laughed at him, and they should have asked what kind of plans he has for the future. It takes most people quite a long time to get on their feet and make the money that they want to make. If they love each other then that should be just fine, but at the same time they BOTH need to consider living costs and how much money they are making. Living without money is extremely hard and leads to unhappy relationships, because it makes individuals unhappy.

Personally if I were him I would have told them about plans I have for the future and I wouldn't break up with her. But then again, I don't know if I would rush marriage unless I was financially secure. I would want to give my wife the kind of wedding she wants, and that can, at times, mean a significant amount of money.

How about if he still persevere! HE LOVED THE GIRL! he should show his GF's parents a thing or two. But mainly, he should first say "I'm not gonna marry your daughter yet. I just want to see you folks. And as for marrying her, we still have to plan things."
And since they said to him that he ain't fit enough, Take it as a challenge. Leaving your GF because of such reasons is a big mistake he's gonna regret. It might be just a big test.

is that 2600000 yen his monthly or yearly package. even if its a yearly one he's getting about 60% more than me. That means i have no chance of getting a japanese gf or marrying a japanese girl orz. Dont tell me that inflation is so high that this huge amount of cash is insufficient to meet two peoples requirement. what is the average annual income in japan?

The guy shouldn't get be too effected to the words that his GF's parents said and show to them that he can support and provide for her GF ^^

Love conquers all =3

Pshh too bad for him! He really should make more if he's gonna support him and his girl. My dad made twice as much as him and that still wasn't enough so he had to get a better job in order to marry my mom and move to America.

*Unzip

*Putting the dolphin on the table

And now ? Am i still not good enough ?

thats like a slap in the face... but like malo said before, as long as the misses-to-be is happy & satisfied and the guy is making a commitment to the relationship, i think everything should be fine with or without her parents. that way, after 10 years or so, hopefully they could go back to her parents and rub it in their faces about how well they turned out to be.

Anyone else have this experience? I mean just meeting the parents is a big deal. Worse than any job interview I can remember. My gf at the time did a great job of hyping me up, and the important thing was that we were happy together. Unfortunately for his case the receiving parents looked at it at a financial/business view. Thats THEIR loss.
I wish him my best and I hope it motivates him for the right reasons. the motivation to prove someone wrong only lasts for so long, its the motivation to prove yourself wrong that will stay with one forever.
You only need to do it once and you'll wonder why you didn't do it any sooner. I wish the best for this guy, he alone will figure out what to do. In any case, I say listen to what everyone has to say about it, and throw it all out the window. He can only grow stronger from this experience.

They're selling their daughters not marrying them.

People are only poor when they have no loved ones.

If Ranma 1/2, taught us anything it's to elope to China, and UFO Ultramaiden Valkyrie, To LOVE-Ru, Urusei Yatsura and many other taught us anything it's to run away from home!!!

i wonder if the guy really inteded to ask for the girls hand in marriage??? I mean we are asuming that was his intention? But... what if he was just there to meet them out of courtesy? I say this because it sounds like the guy and girl had not discussed her parents before the meeting. (STRIKE ONE : communication problems) If they had gotten to know each other better before hand , he would have been prepared for their attitudes. Remembe we also don't know how old they are (the couple) or how long have they been in their relationship. It sounds to me like they were movin to fast. (STRIKE TWO : speed lovin ) I mean the guy sounds like a kid that either is still in college or doesnt have enough education/life experiece. (STRIKE THREE : dang youngens )

In the end , i think he should just get over it.

If she does not work, that isn't very much...

That's sad. But still, the man should not lose hope. If he really loves the woman, he must swallow his pride for now and try hard to find a solution for his problem.

Oh boy, this reminds me of the first time I met my wife's parents. Meeting my father in law the first time and language. ^o^ Nervous does not describe how I felt. ^o^

I'm sure the parents don't feel he makes enough money to marry their daughter. Maybe they also want to see how committed he is to marrying their daughter. Laughing at him want to see if that will motivate him to step up to the challenge.

I agree with how the parents feel but not the laughing at part. They need to look out for their daughter and it wouldn't be right to give their blessing to a marriage that might not work.

yikes...i'm kinda sadden from this but from the parent's perspective it is to their best interest that their daughter is well taken care of in the future...still sad tho

Sad but I understand that her parents want to make sure that their daughters are well taken care of.

2,600,000 a year? or a month?~
also
wut kinda job would give u this much~

That amount should be for a year, right?... and it's not enough? MY GOD! do every Japanese households expect that much?
There are billions of people earning lesser than that amount and they are living happily together. So what is the problem with those parents mentioned? zzz

That reminds me...
I need to get serious with my life... (don't buy unnecessary stuffs, for short)
don't want that to happen to me.

The guy shouldn't just bother with the parents. I mean it's nice that the parents would give their blessings but they don't really need to be a deal breaker IMO. Its his and her gf's life anyway. Just ask the gf if she would help him by also earning on her own rather than just supporting both of them by himself. If not then go find someone else who will, there's a million (even billion?) other girls out there you know.

So this is the reason why there's a lack of childbirth in Japan?

I understand where the parents are coming from since their just looking out for their daughter's future...but laughing is just mean...Hope that guy finds a way to get through it...

Poor guy. But if he just gives up, definitely nothing will come of this relationship. If he really likes the girl, he should do his best to prove that money isn't the only quality they should be looking at for their daughter's man.

If I were the parents, instead of just blatantly laughing, ask what field he is in, what his hopes are for his career, any possible further education, etc. I imagine that two people each making that much money a year could live together comfortably, but maybe I have skewed perceptions of how much living costs.

similar story here...a girl at my relative's church who just graduated as a doctor wanted to marry her bf who was a car mechanic. Needless to say, the girls' family was not impressed. This was a Christian church too mind yea...whatever happened to the "no judgement" part of church?
Seems like people will say, and do whatever when it comes down to moolah =S

"Her parents laughed at him and said that he was not good enough for their daughter."

I am not a people person and not good with dealing with relationships (my achilles heel), but that is complete and utter bull. Ask her what she thinks of this and then make a decision- This is why I want a private wedding between me and a certain special other in the future- decisions are made between us and I could do without others opinions of the two of us.

I feel my grandparents felt like that with my Dad. Heck, my Mom makes more money than my Dad. My Mom has not been the home type since 1988. She went to college and got herself a job and I am currently semi-enjoy it. I need to finish my degree in physics and in the mean time need to get promoted to manager at a local pharmacy.
My whole life is full of outside the norm I think it is a shame that no one can escape that closed mindedness. If I were in a similar situation I would do like my parents did. Get married in a city hall and wait for the fall out.
I kinda feel for that guy.

2.6 million yen is a pretty low salary for Japan -- the country's average is 4 million -- and certainly not enough to support a family's costs for rent, food and so on. That kind of money is about what a barista at a coffee shop might make.

While I fully support working wives (I wish mine would work a bit harder) it has to be recognised that due to child-bearing and discrimination, women in Japan as well as the USA and Britain have significant disadvantages of earning potential. In the best case, the husband should be able to support the family by himself, and the wife's income should be for luxuries not necessities. Perhaps one day, womens' contribution to house work and child rearing will be properly recognised (that is, paid) but that day is a long time off.

That said, it was pretty harsh of the parents to scold this lad in front of the daughter. I expect they did it to send a message to him and her.

What the lad needs to do, if he is serious about the girl, is get himself a plan for improving his career potential. Maybe take a degree in evening classes or something like that.

such prejudice are unavoidable in asian societies. naturally, the parents would ideally want their daughter to be wedded to a dependent spouse. i wouldn't claim to be an expert on romance, but i fervently believe that if they are truly meant for each other, not even their parents can do anything.

this may sound cliche, but i say the guy oughta take it in his stride. someone else will come along eventually. but hey don't take it from me, take it from the many other bachelors around the world.

i like to know how's danny's marriage to his wife came about ^^

I knew this existed, but that doesn't make it any less harsh. Guess I should just lie about my earnings if I want to marry a Japanese girl. Does this happen often, or are parents becoming a little more open-minded in Japan?

He should've asked how much her family earns and why did the parents reject him that earns big, most people in this time need money and usually it very hard to earn money, I think the parents just didn't like the person acted, or the guy just overreacted to the situation, if I were that guy I won't be so pissed with that kind of appeal.

Thats so mean!!! Evil parents....

I can understand the parents view somewhat; they have a great interest in their daughter having a good future. Laughing is quite harsh but, supposing that asking one what their income is normal in Japan... the issue is really 'how they worded their thoughts'. I've met many people who have gotten married without the blessing of the girl's family and it doesn't always work out due to the tension between the parties involved.
That said, I do feel bad for the guy. Men in conservative societies are the head of the house and as such, providing a salary that seems minor by the parents standards, is a pretty fatal blow to the proposed marriage.
Not good.

I say if they love each other then they should get married anyway. In-laws are always a pain to deal with regardless if you had their approval or not. Or he can sulk around acting depressed getting himself no where.

if that's the case, i will awe her parents with my collection of figures and gundams. that will sure impress them. ('~')

I wonder how the girl felt when they laughed at her boyfriend... Embarasssed? Justified? :/

Well why don't they take the girl to the guys parents house and have the man's parents ask her how much she makes!!!! Don't the man's parents have any influence in this matters, shouldn't the woman have to make a good impression and bring in money as well.

In the US (as i can't comment elsewhere through experience) Woman are very adamant about equality. Many will make more than there husband while he stays at home to raise the children, or both will work and utilize daycare to make up for their lost time. So i think the days and meeting your GF's parents and feeling obligated to perform well and impress them financially should be long over. This set idea of a man providing only and a woman raising kids is an idea that's a lil arcane these days.

Anyone can work, or raise kids, or get married, and they can do it anyway they please as long as it makes them happy.

It may be custom, but if the boyfriend and the girlfriend really do truly love each other, they should be able to work together and come up with a solution. It could be the girlfriend getting a job and putting off starting a family, it could be the boyfriend getting a higher paying job, or it could be running off and getting married without parental blessing and dealing with all the fallout.

If they do not really truly love each other, then this is the first stumbling block and things will probably get a lot worse if they make it past this one...

The parents laughing I can see as a way to majorly discourage the boyfriend, but I think that there are a lot of other ways to do that without ruining the boyfriends self confidence. Their daughter may just marry him no matter what the parents say or think and laughing at the boyfriend is a great way to get estranged from your daughter...

Ouch. I can understand the parents wanting to look out for their daughter, but the laughing part seems excessive.

I'd advise the guy if he's in love he should keep a stiff upper lip and presevere, wheter that means trying to find a better job or what not. Being in love and wanting to get married could certainly give me otherwise impossible willpower to accomplish something.

tldr; Ganbare

my mom earns 2x more then him... ^^ as a Nurse here in Amsterdam, The Netherlands .
but she has to work hard for it tho.

Is US$23,691 normal in Japan? Coz it's seems really low to me. I have almost double that. =/

^And I'm still below average in my region. =/

I'm not great with this kind of thing, but the best advice is that it isn't the end of the world. OK, so the situation sucks and it's an upmountain struggle but in that case he could just keep going with the status quo and keep his options open for the future. I used to get worked up over women until I worked that out for myself ^^ off topic, I'm glad I'm earning the equivalent of the 'average' Japanese wage.

All parents hate and fear their daughters' boyfriends from the moment the midwife says, "Congratulations, it's a girl."

Well, that sucks. But I understand the parent's situation since my sister's boyfriend had to go through that as well. Or I should say brother-in-law.

BTW, I have that doujin. You have to have a specific fetish in order to enjoy that doujin. ^^;

that guy isn't good enough, no balls.

Run away I say.

Pictures of the GF please, lets see if she's good enough for him.

i would ask my gf do u care what your parents say, i can speak from experience meet gf parents was so nervous they knew and all they said was "he a good guy but why did u choose someone 7 years older then u. mom is still trying to over that fact dad well is neutral he didn't really care." could tell how he look like at the facts and meet me didn't care, she didn't care either

That was mean of her parents=.=;

man thats hard for him, I can feel his pain...

Yea thats the one thing about Asian families, MONEY MONEY MONEY MONEY you lawyer now? you doctor? you famous pianist? you CEO? NO?? COME TALK TO ME WHEN YOU ARE!

Funny enough, I when I met my wife, she was already an established professional, just like me, and we were already over the age of 25 so we could more or less decide for ourselves. But we still asked our parents for permission to marry, which was given readily.

That being said, the're both still young, so they still have plenty of time to improve thier financial status, and when they do decide to marry eventually, they will be mature enough to carry on a long lasting relationship. In the meantime, I say he indulge his dolphin, just be careful otherwise if daddy finds out, it's dolphin sashimi for dinner! LOL!!!

This guy needs to have more guts. If he can't stand up to the girl's parents for something as simple as that, how much more if he needs to work harder for keeping them both together?

damn, thats gotta hurt.

I hate when that happens,it happens a LOT here in korea!!!!!!!!!!!! Seems like korean girls are a bunch of goldigging greedy ______!!!!!!! Japanese girls are WAY BETTER!!!!!!!!!