R4

Wed 2008/07/30 14:31 JST
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Nintendo has made an official statement that they and 51 other software makers are suing the producers of the R4 and other similar devices which allow homebrew games (as well as not-so-homebrew games) to be played on the NDS.
These devices are known as "Majikon" [マジコン] in Japanese but is there an English term?

Will be interesting to see if they can ever stop these devices from being sold/manufactured.
Do you have an R4 or similar device? I dont own a PSP but I get the impression from all the patching that its difficult (bothersome) to play homebrew on the PSP?

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  • Andy
    Andy in Warsaw, Poland (Registered on 2007/11/03)
    Bounty Hunter
    http://myanimelist.net/profile/andrewgk

    Nah, It's really easy ^__^ I done it at home myself with no problem actually.
    And it actually allows you to have such cool gameboots (a short movie shown when game is starting on teh psp, default one is a crappy psp logo >_<")
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83w5kekDb8Q
    I've actually made that one myself :D

    Wed 2008/07/30 14:55:24 JST (ID #251812)
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  • spedtron
    spedtron in Singapore (Registered on 2007/08/22)
    serving nation Orz

    I admit im guilty :x but i belive many comrades out there are too hehe :p

    Wed 2008/07/30 14:55:35 JST (ID #251813)
    reply to spedtron's comment
    • raptor_cZn
      raptor_cZn in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia (Registered on 2007/12/12)
      Pre-U Student
      http://wakuwakusuru.zeroclipse.net

      Homebrew is great! I have CFW installed on my PSP and am lovin it =). Games load much faster from memory sticks compared to UMDs.

      Wed 2008/07/30 20:08:37 JST (ID #252038)
      reply to raptor_cZn's comment
  • bloodlust8
    bloodlust8 in Philippines (Registered on 2008/02/16)

    Using homebrew apps and as well as the not-so-homebrew games on psp is very easy. Actually it opened up some of the hidden potentials of the psp. It even made the psp much more creative and appealing with the custom themes, custom gameboots and whatnot. Also, it made the psp brick-safe.

    Wed 2008/07/30 15:09:44 JST (ID #251819)
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    • Andy
      Andy in Warsaw, Poland (Registered on 2007/11/03)
      Bounty Hunter
      http://myanimelist.net/profile/andrewgk

      PSP's where actually bricking cuz of the ppl trying to flash it...
      And it just recently that they found a way to repair all the bricks.
      But yeah it does make psp more appealing and sony is even using ideas from the custom firmware in its own official one :D

      Wed 2008/07/30 15:12:20 JST (ID #251823)
      reply to Andy's comment
      • thammuz
        thammuz in Pittsburgh (Registered on 2008/01/29)
        COMPENG/SWENG Student
        http://ryan2006.deviantart.com

        They just started producing a new motherboard, that blocks you from being able to use the unbricker and custom firmwares (again). I was thinking of picking up the R4 when I saw it a few times being sold in Akihabara, but I've read of fakes and wasn't sure if they were legit. :(

        Wed 2008/07/30 21:08:11 JST (ID #252081)
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  • RaptorFB
    RaptorFB (Registered on 2007/12/06)
    Student

    I've owned an R4 for a little over a year now, purely for "homebrew" purposes of course.
    I'd have to admit, after buying the R4, I've only bought one or two games for the DS, purely due to the preorder bonus or because I liked the company that made the game.

    The PSP, I've had for about 2 years and bought off of a friend AFTER I patched his. I found that the PSP was much more useful for running homebrew, for real, than playing... bootleg. Fortunately, it was relatively easy since he never played the thing and so the firmware was still on 1.0. I guess patching the PSP would be more difficult for later firmware revisions, but if you have made a Pandora battery and a magic memory stick, then the whole process isn't that hard after all.

    Wed 2008/07/30 15:12:17 JST (ID #251822)
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  • Shoddy Goldrider
    Shoddy Goldrider in Port Macquarie, Australia (Registered on 2008/05/12)

    I just recently bought a DSTT, and have been enjoying it.

    Wed 2008/07/30 15:18:33 JST (ID #251829)
    reply to Shoddy Goldrider's comment
    • Divine Fang
      Divine Fang in Malaysia (Registered on 2008/04/23)
      Otaku
      http://www.shin-otaku.com

      If I remember correctly, the chronological order of Majikon released should be
      SuperCard > ? > R4 > DSTT > N5

      Wed 2008/07/30 18:52:22 JST (ID #251993)
      reply to Divine Fang's comment
    • nya-chama
      nya-chama in London, United Kingdom (Registered on 2007/10/31)
      Student/Freelance Programmer

      I bought an M3 Real, I'm using it with the English version of M3 Sakura firmware(unofficial since it was only released in Japan).

      OMG, M3 Sakura is so awesome, it still needs to be improved though... homebrew can be a hit or a miss. R4s are so outdated I wonder why people are still buying them.

      Wed 2008/07/30 22:51:47 JST (ID #252144)
      reply to nya-chama's comment
      • R-1
        R-1 in a happy place. (Registered on 2007/07/05)
        Overman
        http://myplasticmoustache.blogspot.com/

        Mainly because they're stable. Bought an N5 for my friend and even with the updates, it won't run most games properly.

        Wed 2008/07/30 23:36:47 JST (ID #252181)
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  • achraf1989
    achraf1989 in morocco (Registered on 2007/07/07)
    student

    no actually i think its easier to flash your PSP and play homebrews all you need is the custom firmware and the pandora kit if anything goes wrong and both are easy to use and free you can find tutorials all over the net fir them

    Wed 2008/07/30 15:24:11 JST (ID #251837)
    reply to achraf1989's comment
  • etherlite
    etherlite in Jakarta, Indonesia (Registered on 2007/12/06)
    Medical School Student

    lol, i'm using R4 for my NDS, and it's good enough, well, never use any homebrew but VNDS tho

    Wed 2008/07/30 15:36:44 JST (ID #251845)
    reply to etherlite's comment
  • scum2k1
    scum2k1 in Irvine, CA (Registered on 2008/05/10)
    Professionally Unemployed

    PSP is slighty more difficult but nothing the above average person couldnt figure out with a little online tutorials. R4 one is so easy my little sister could operate it. By the way, they're called flash carts i think. I won't lie. I'm a hardcore pirate and your jedi mind tricks to make me feel guilty won't work.

    Wed 2008/07/30 15:50:16 JST (ID #251852)
    reply to scum2k1's comment
  • Tiny Red Man
    Tiny Red Man in Tiny Red Dot, Singapore. (Registered on 2007/04/11)
    free lance otaku, full time Protector of Peace.

    damn..i should bought NDS earlier... It's now or never!!

    Wed 2008/07/30 15:56:54 JST (ID #251858)
    reply to Tiny Red Man's comment
  • Blowfish
    Blowfish in Close to Dyusseru,Karlsland (Registered on 2008/06/11)
    Physical Therapist
    http://www.flyingpussyfoot.com

    I dont own a R4 and dont plan on picking one up.Im not that interested in homebrew stuff and i prefer to buy my games and physically own them

    Wed 2008/07/30 16:19:44 JST (ID #251873)
    reply to Blowfish's comment
  • Len-Vesper
    Len-Vesper in Quebec City, Canada (Registered on 2008/02/16)
    Network Architect, Administrator, Vmware Guru
    http://www.finetoo.org/

    PSP homebrew setup is amazingly simple. Now with the new time-machine program you can set any firmware you want at any time, with a simple config reboot. Plus the latest firmwares allow you to load up pretty much any emulation (I play ps1, genesis, and snes games on my PSP) from oldschool to limited newschool games.

    Nothing beats being able to play vagrant story while on the road.

    Wed 2008/07/30 16:21:59 JST (ID #251874)
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    • raptor_cZn
      raptor_cZn in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia (Registered on 2007/12/12)
      Pre-U Student
      http://wakuwakusuru.zeroclipse.net

      Yep, cfw allows you to install homebrew apps like popsloader so that you can play your PS1 games without compatibility issues.

      Wed 2008/07/30 20:06:26 JST (ID #252035)
      reply to raptor_cZn's comment
  • kenok
    kenok in Macross Quarter (Registered on 2008/02/29)
    Web Designer

    PSP homebrew and not-so-homebrew is pretty much easy, since its pretty much on the software level.

    But you do need to use a special battery/memory stick prepared for this purpose for custom firmware'ing your PSP from store-bought stock. After that wait till a firmware gets hacked/decrypted and flash it using regular firmware installation procedures.

    Wed 2008/07/30 16:35:29 JST (ID #251880)
    reply to kenok's comment
  • Evil King
    Evil King in Vlaardingen, the Netherlands, Earth (Registered on 2007/12/18)
    Student and full-time otaku

    Guess my little cousins would be sad; they just got a whole card full of games for their b-day. Never even knew what this R4 deal was about till now.

    Wed 2008/07/30 16:50:38 JST (ID #251891)
    reply to Evil King's comment
  • Thomas.k
    Thomas.k in Sao Paulo, Brazil (Registered on 2008/01/21)
    Administrator and anime lover
    http://www.animestore.com.br/blog

    I own a PSP for 2 years by now, and I am pretty satisfied, with hardcore games like Monster Hunter, Gundam and the upcoming Macross.
    The process of patching it is easy for a person who really read tutorials. It is similar to unlock an iphone, it is hard for those who don't know where the ROOT folder is located ( yes, some people ask that a lot ), but for those who have a little expertise like configure a wireless router, the task is easy.

    Wed 2008/07/30 17:04:28 JST (ID #251903)
    reply to Thomas.k's comment
    • Gammagreen_Zero
      Gammagreen_Zero in Porto, Portugal, Earth Federation (Registered on 2007/02/18)
      Student, Gamer, Part-time EFSF Pilot

      Yep, some people don't know even basics like ROOT... F'ing sad...

      Wed 2008/07/30 17:15:06 JST (ID #251915)
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    • raptor_cZn
      raptor_cZn in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia (Registered on 2007/12/12)
      Pre-U Student
      http://wakuwakusuru.zeroclipse.net

      Haha that's quite true. Most people tend to be lazy to do their research. There are plenty of sites with guides etc. on how to install cfw for your PSP. People do not know the location of root is like asking them to find any key on a keyboard ^^

      Wed 2008/07/30 20:04:57 JST (ID #252034)
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  • Gammagreen_Zero
    Gammagreen_Zero in Porto, Portugal, Earth Federation (Registered on 2007/02/18)
    Student, Gamer, Part-time EFSF Pilot

    I got so used to it that i can install a custom firmware in a PSP in around 10min ^_^'

    I use that to mainly put some emulators on my unit - some SNES, some Genesis and even GBA. Also, I sometimes do download some iso's either to try out the games or to play the games while I wait for them to arrive on my mail (when I really can't wait for a new game).

    Wed 2008/07/30 17:12:59 JST (ID #251913)
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  • Aoi_sora9x
    Aoi_sora9x in Singapore (Registered on 2007/11/04)
    Student
    http://asdesign.wordpress.com

    Ah well I just love R4 cards...
    Sold my PSP since I could not afford the games. Quite sad since 1 year after that they cracked firmware vers 3.6

    Wed 2008/07/30 17:28:20 JST (ID #251924)
    reply to Aoi_sora9x's comment
  • Nathan
    Nathan in Atlanta, GA, USA (Registered on 2007/08/22)
    student

    The R4 and all similar devices are called "Flash Carts" as far as I know. There are tons of others, including Supercard, Cyclo DS, and M3. The R4 people will most likely make some other sort of cart similar to the R4, just call it something different, then release firmware that's compatible with both.

    Wed 2008/07/30 17:36:31 JST (ID #251931)
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  • x33b
    x33b in Chicago (Registered on 2007/11/23)
    Network Admin

    I ran homebrew on my psp for a while but I accidentally flashed a Sony firmware over it and have bee to lazy to go back.

    Wed 2008/07/30 18:06:54 JST (ID #251952)
    reply to x33b's comment
  • MARl0
    MARl0 in United States (Registered on 2007/11/16)
    Graphic Designer

    The PSP custom firmware stuff is way over my head. Everyone tells me it's so simple, but I when try to read the tutorials for it, it just sounds like alien speak to me. Especially since I have one of the newest official firmwares installed, which makes it even more complicated.

    Wed 2008/07/30 18:35:13 JST (ID #251977)
    reply to MARl0's comment
  • Alafista OTAKU
    Alafista OTAKU in Singapore (Registered on 2006/12/25)
    Policy & Research Officer
    http://www.alafista.com/

    I remember reading somewhere that the R4 were selling like hotcakes in Akiba but it'd be interesting to see how the lawsuit will turn out.

    Wed 2008/07/30 18:53:04 JST (ID #251996)
    reply to Alafista OTAKU's comment
  • Pyoro
    Pyoro in Singapore (Registered on 2007/08/22)
    Student
    http://anime.tedfox.com/

    well it's now or ever. not that i own a DS though...

    Wed 2008/07/30 19:01:52 JST (ID #252002)
    reply to Pyoro's comment
  • silent1134
    silent1134 in Los Angeles, California (Registered on 2007/08/22)
    ???Confused???

    My friend has one and it works great

    Wed 2008/07/30 19:21:19 JST (ID #252010)
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  • Eva
    Eva in Singapore (Registered on 2008/05/18)
    Admin

    Actually, knowing how trigger happy Nintendo is with their lawsuits, I'm surprised it took them this long to take action against R4. But if they had taken this long to do it, it seems the case will have little chance of succeeding against R4. Or maybe Nintendo will simply drag on the case and kill R4 by draining them of money to fight the case. Nothing is ever too dirty when it comes to money.

    NDS seem to sell crazy amounts in Japan every month. I wonder if it'll ever reach a saturation point. In any case, I don't own any handheld console.

    Wed 2008/07/30 19:26:26 JST (ID #252016)
    reply to Eva's comment
  • Niemi
    Niemi in Canada (Registered on 2007/06/22)
    Office Monkey

    I'm apparently one of the odd ones out who use an M3 Simply, the twin brother of the R4. XD

    Wed 2008/07/30 19:38:50 JST (ID #252023)
    reply to Niemi's comment
  • aubz.
    aubz. in Vancouver (Registered on 2007/11/18)
    Multimedia Developer/Designer

    I own a CycloDS Evolution and a 6gb microSD SDHC card. I also have 2 PSPs both on CFWs with 8gb memsticks. Lets just say I'm never bored at home or on the road :P

    Wed 2008/07/30 19:43:08 JST (ID #252025)
    reply to aubz.'s comment
  • acw2097
    acw2097 in Pitts PA USA (Registered on 2008/06/11)
    おたくと大学生。
    http://jp.youtube.com/user/acw2097

    I know people with these. They work very well

    Wed 2008/07/30 19:45:03 JST (ID #252027)
    reply to acw2097's comment
  • Meimi132
    Meimi132 in Stuck in the void between the net life and real life. (Registered on 2007/12/03)
    Student, Otaku, She-Geek(Sheek lol)
    http://meimi132.wordpress.com/

    I hiss at my friend when he brags about his homebrew PSP and his homebrewed-DS. (Partially out of jealousy that he gets to play the Digimon Ranch game and others like it...and partially out of the fact he's a naughty boy!!!!)
    Homebrew PSP have to be pretty old if I'm correct? The first batch or something, before they got the software right so you couldn't edit/change it. He got his off ebay with a Halo theme on it, he's changed it since I believe. :sigh: I'm glad Nintendo are suing these people actually. I don't like the idea of changing my DS just so I can play stolen/copied games on it... I'm paranoid of it going wrong lol. (I still have the old-(retro as I'm calling it)DS.

    Wed 2008/07/30 20:13:12 JST (ID #252045)
    reply to Meimi132's comment
  • jowy
    jowy in philippines (Registered on 2008/01/23)
    vendor
    http://www.friendster.com

    I have 3 R4's. great homebrew system than Umd. They can carry some data like movies and mp3.

    Wed 2008/07/30 20:19:15 JST (ID #252051)
    reply to jowy's comment
  • GundamJehutyKai
    GundamJehutyKai in Foundation II Stellvia (Registered on 2007/09/12)
    Service desk support
    http://lookingglass.kokidokom.net

    PSP is generally harder to crack (requires more manpower and thought), but only needs to be done once. With the R4, you will need to get periodic updates as nintendo adds code to newer games to stop the R4 from working. The worry is that if they shut down the makers of R4, the updates also stop.

    But this is nothing new from nintendo. their latest wii updates broke the freeloader disk which allowed users to play legit copies of games from other regions on their region locked wii.

    Wed 2008/07/30 21:09:17 JST (ID #252082)
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    • BandAiD
      BandAiD in 米国 (Registered on 2008/01/08)
      C. Engineering Student
      http://otaku.baywords.com

      I think they'll have a tough time with that considering the manufacturer is located in China.

      Wed 2008/07/30 23:29:16 JST (ID #252174)
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  • Mr.Boy
    Mr.Boy in Graceland (Registered on 2006/12/31)
    Simulation
    http://www.animetreehouse.com

    I had my PSP modified with custom firmware by http://www.pspnurse.com , It's like having a whole new machine, plus I don't have to spend money on games any more. I actually needed to replace my analog stick and found out they offer the CFW upgrade and had it done also! The english word for this is "HAX". ;D

    Wed 2008/07/30 21:19:39 JST (ID #252091)
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  • Rin
    Rin in Toronto (Registered on 2008/01/04)
    Student Otaku (ITM Student) and ACG NA Staff
    http://koiaichaku.com/

    Ah, R4...
    Almost everyone is using one...
    Great little tool...

    Wed 2008/07/30 22:21:48 JST (ID #252130)
    reply to Rin's comment
  • Zou
    Zou in New York City (Registered on 2008/07/08)
    Student & Authorized Chicken Slapper
    http://www.otakuinternational.com

    I can understand why Nintendo is doing this of course but I personally love my modded DS. I can download all the games I want as well as use the programs made for it, LIke Color, where you can draw on your DS, some guys have made amazing looking pictures from that.

    Wed 2008/07/30 22:28:32 JST (ID #252134)
    reply to Zou's comment
  • Gav
    Gav in Northumberland, UK (Registered on 2006/12/26)
    Tech support

    I've got a similar device for my Gameboy micro, and its not like I don't own legit games, its just that some games are either impossible to find as they are long-since deleted, or that even second-hand they are so rare they fetch ridiculous prices on ebay and the like and I'm not able to afford/ justify spending that much cash on a game :-p

    Wed 2008/07/30 22:37:51 JST (ID #252140)
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  • Quentin aka Q
    Quentin aka Q in Varies (Hong Kong resident) (Registered on 2008/01/06)
    http://quentinlau.blogspot.com

    Ah the notorious R4. Most of my friends in Hong Kong who own an NDS have R4 in them. They run faster and more efficient than the other cards, and modding makes things easier and convenient for them. Too bad R4 is nearly completely sold out over here, and the government has sanctioned against modded gaming platforms, but I doubt it would have much effect; the customs are busy trying to crack down on pirated computer goods and CDs/DVDs already.

    Wed 2008/07/30 23:04:18 JST (ID #252156)
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  • BandAiD
    BandAiD in 米国 (Registered on 2008/01/08)
    C. Engineering Student
    http://otaku.baywords.com

    PSP is actually pretty damn easy to patch up, its only intimidating because there are like 200 ways to go about doing it, so when you start reading guides on how to do it you tend to read multiple at once, so its just a good idea to stick with one only.

    I had an R4, but i really regret getting rid of my DS and R4 now, I plan on picking them up again. I don't think Nintendo will have much luck with the case over here on it, even though we have a bunch of laws there are always exceptions made. I suppose the Wii isn't printing money fast enough for Nintendo. Had Nintendo not had the DS right now, I wouldn't even like the company at all.

    Wed 2008/07/30 23:27:34 JST (ID #252170)
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  • persocomsan
    persocomsan in Pueblo, CO (Registered on 2008/06/20)
    http://animaticfigmation.com/

    don't have a psp and only played one once, nor a ds, never really messed with them before, so I guess I'm one of the clueless people.

    Thu 2008/07/31 00:42:55 JST (ID #252217)
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  • ClearTranquil
    ClearTranquil in Vancouver, BC - Canada (Registered on 2008/06/20)
    Student // Collector // Gaijin
    http://zacbush.com

    I'm plugged into both departments.

    I have a DS and I bought an R4 soon after getting it. But, I don't really play my DS all that often, and I don't see any games I'd actually BUY for it (I mainly bought it in the first place for Phoenix Wright).

    As for PSP, I've been a self-proclaimed expert on the thing since the 1.50 days. I've been running emu's and iso's as long as I can remember, but out of respect, I DO buy the games I really really like (even tho I have an 8GB card to put pirates on). I love the PSP more as a media station and to play games from every other system than I do the PSP games, but sometimes things come along I'll get hooked on. I've been into DJ Max Portable (1/2) for about a year now.

    Thu 2008/07/31 01:11:11 JST (ID #252231)
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    • ClearTranquil
      ClearTranquil in Vancouver, BC - Canada (Registered on 2008/06/20)
      Student // Collector // Gaijin
      http://zacbush.com

      Sorry this was such a short-all-over-the-place summary. I'm late for work. Whee!

      Thu 2008/07/31 01:12:04 JST (ID #252233)
      reply to ClearTranquil's comment
  • manga
    manga in Sydney (Registered on 2008/06/27)
    Student
    http://bk201.wordpress.com/

    Pretty much anyone I know with a DS or PSP have an R4 or flash. Buying games is just too expensive. OFC $50 is all needed to get the thing for unlimited gamess.

    Thu 2008/07/31 01:51:49 JST (ID #252252)
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  • tails
    tails in New York City (Registered on 2008/07/29)
    Half Engineer, Half Student, All Robot
    http://discombobulatedyouth.blogspot.com/

    I have custom firmware on my PSP and I bought an R4 for my sister's NDS Lite. As a result, they've both been converted to PMP's. You can play homebrew on the PSP as easily as any UMD game once you have some hacked firmware installed (which is actually pretty easy to install).

    Thu 2008/07/31 05:23:54 JST (ID #252436)
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  • XSportSeeker
    XSportSeeker in Brazil (Registered on 2007/08/22)
    Dropping computers, starting all over again at Journalism
    http://xspblog.com

    About this... I'll just copy and paste the comment I posted on Kotaku:

    Kudos for Nintendo, for officialy not supporting the device, but bringing the subject again to the news.
    Free publicity for the DS.

    People who have a DS and don't have an R4 will have a reason to get the dust of their DSs.
    And people who don't have DSs and didn't know about R4 will now have one more reason to buy it.

    And if they win the Lawsuit, not only they will scrape some money of it, but also won't kill the carts since there are tons of them around, with even better quality than the R4.

    But we all heard stuff like that before, right Sony?

    Thu 2008/07/31 05:49:55 JST (ID #252451)
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    • XSportSeeker
      XSportSeeker in Brazil (Registered on 2007/08/22)
      Dropping computers, starting all over again at Journalism
      http://xspblog.com

      Also, yep, I have an R4, and I have a hacked PSP.

      PSP is a little more difficult to work the magic, Danny is right. But not impossible. I did it by myself, and am no electronics expert.

      Another thing: I bought both BECAUSE I was able to do such things... run homebrew stuff.
      And I don't mean pirated games.

      Thu 2008/07/31 05:52:33 JST (ID #252455)
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  • Kozta-Boom
    Kozta-Boom in Coconut cream pie world (Registered on 2008/06/25)
    Spartan
    http://www.ryobase.com

    I have PSP running CFW (custom firmware) and I'm really satisfied with it because I got psp games for free!! ^^"

    Thu 2008/07/31 06:59:59 JST (ID #252508)
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  • Kururu_luva
    Kururu_luva in Richmond, BC Canada (Registered on 2007/01/20)

    PSP with CFW is awesome. I can go back and play any ps1 games that I missed when i was a kid. Plus there's a capcom and neo geo arcade emulator, so it means Marvel vs Capcom and Metal Slug on the go. There's just a lot homebrew things you can do with the psp =)

    Thu 2008/07/31 07:18:38 JST (ID #252518)
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  • dreaming Artemis
    dreaming Artemis in Malaysia (Registered on 2007/11/28)
    Full time nerd
    http://www.dreaming-artemis.com

    I have one and do I use it for? A game storage device, I buy the original game (which is a big chunk of my pay) and then find the rom to store it on my R4. Why? Even though I could have just pirate the game. Because I'm also a software developer and I know how painful it is to lose revenue to piracy

    Thu 2008/07/31 08:12:19 JST (ID #252562)
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  • BeLe
    BeLe in Davao, Philippines (Registered on 2007/01/03)
    .NET/Web Developer
    http://scrumptious.animeblogger.net

    I bought an Edge(works similar to R4 and DSTT) flash cart for my DS recently and have really enjoyed it. Homebrew apps and being able to play music and movies and games with it are awesome.

    Thu 2008/07/31 08:38:13 JST (ID #252600)
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  • Denny
    Denny in Sydney (Registered on 2008/07/21)
    Student

    i used to buy games for my ds before i got an r4. The problem is most games take too long to be released in australia. its also alot more simple, having one cartridge for a number of games

    Thu 2008/07/31 08:42:13 JST (ID #252605)
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  • faiyaka
    faiyaka in California (Registered on 2007/10/11)
    Student

    yes -_-" i own a CycloDS. guilty as charged... but i stopped playing.

    i really lost interest in video games.

    Thu 2008/07/31 12:08:40 JST (ID #252724)
    reply to faiyaka's comment
  • Abi-kun
    Abi-kun in Poland (Registered on 2008/01/06)
    a guy who cares (sort of...)

    I had DSOne V1 for some time and recently bought DSTT. To make things worse I have almost all games ever released on DS (in "homebrew" version") including Doki Doki Majo Shinpan 2. I only played like.. 0.1% of them, but I'm more of a collector than a player (the same goes for recently reviewed fansubs...).

    Thu 2008/07/31 13:29:30 JST (ID #252752)
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  • Jenarwen
    Jenarwen in Vancouver (Registered on 2008/03/06)
    Art Student/Freelancer
    http://jenarwen.deviant.art.com

    I have a flash card for the DS. Use if for homebrew applications like the internet, and colours

    Fri 2008/08/01 01:53:23 JST (ID #253195)
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  • Freya
    Freya in 東京都 (Registered on 2007/01/11)
    CG映像専門学生
    http://slyphnier.atelier-freya.net/

    i have PSP and NDS, but for some reason i dun use neither R4 or homebrew... not because i have extra money to spend on original cart... but

    for R4 -> indeed its so simple and run smooth, u just need to transfer the ripped cart.data to mini SD card... and viola u can play the game, but i prefer to save my save data securely on original cart as i dun play lots game on NDS either

    same for R4... i dun use homebrew on PSP, because it brothersome (i dunno for sure how about latest homebrew)... and i need large capacity memorystick duo to load the game.data

    Fri 2008/08/01 08:45:25 JST (ID #253463)
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  • lostandfound
    lostandfound in Singapore (Registered on 2007/10/21)
    Hikikomori in the making
    http://supermariabros.deviantart.com/

    Argh! I be a pirate!

    Fri 2008/08/01 11:12:14 JST (ID #253580)
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  • MAsia
    MAsia in NERV HQ, Tokyo-3 (Registered on 2007/01/14)
    Supreme Commander of NERV Co.

    Well, my personal opnion is once you buy the player do whatever you want with it...we don;t need the game companies chasing other companies...However homebrews will keep coming whether they like it or not ^^

    Wed 2009/01/21 23:00:54 JST (ID #456918)
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  • Sat Nav
    Sat Nav in england (Registered on 2009/04/01)
    anime + games collector

    whats wrong with them so what if you play games that you cant afford.

    Fri 2009/04/10 13:50:37 JST (ID #557374)
    reply to Sat Nav's comment

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