18-200mm F3.5-6.3 DC OS

Tue 2008/07/08 09:48 JST
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Need a new lens and pretty much decided to go for the 18-200mm F3.5-6.3 DC OS - about 57,000 yen.
Samples taken with this camera at Watch Impress and the original resolution of this photo (Yokohama) taken with this lens also at the other Watch Impress.
I want this because changing lenses is a pain in the bottom - either the macro or wide.
This lens goes from 18-200mm which will especially be ideal for the up n coming shows like wonfes and general use around town.
You have any lens recommendations?

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  • marvin
    marvin (Registered on 2006/12/24)
    http://www.marvinryan.com

    it isn't an Canon EF right? btw was wondering how long is the actual lens.

    Tue 2008/07/08 09:55:47 JST (ID #233030)
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  • Tiny Red Man
    Tiny Red Man in Tiny Red Dot, Singapore. (Registered on 2007/04/11)
    free lance otaku, full time Protector of Peace.

    by the time u know, u get SAL (suddenly acquired Lens)

    Tue 2008/07/08 10:00:13 JST (ID #233033)
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  • Neil Duckett
    Neil Duckett in Yoyogi, Tokyo (Registered on 2007/11/06)
    Software Engineer
    http://www.neilduckett.com

    Sweet picture man ..... love the colours in it.

    Tue 2008/07/08 10:41:09 JST (ID #233048)
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  • 6pack
    6pack (Registered on 2008/03/20)
    browsing the nets
    http://otakuposts.blogspot.com/

    which camera you're using danny?

    Tue 2008/07/08 10:55:31 JST (ID #233056)
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  • Uchikoma
    Uchikoma in Wales (Registered on 2008/06/14)
    Programmer
    http://www.nowloading.co.uk

    Very nice!

    I have a Pentax K10D, so my lens recommendations wouldn't be much use. I use a Pentax 28-105 as my general carry around lens, and have a Sigma 70-300 APO DG Macro for macro work and if I need some extra reach. Good think about Pentax is you can use all the old lenses, so I have a selection of nice fast manual prime lenses as well for family shots and things like that.

    Tue 2008/07/08 11:06:10 JST (ID #233061)
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    • Dead Snake
      Dead Snake in Ngayogyakarto Hadiningrat (Registered on 2007/05/11)
      writing mini thesises
      http://kazenomise.net/

      was using the analog pentax....now using nikon d40(but my pics aren't as good when I was using the analog pentax, I wonder why ^^;; )

      but I admit the Old analog pentax was nice... ^^

      Tue 2008/07/08 18:21:38 JST (ID #233282)
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      • Uchikoma
        Uchikoma in Wales (Registered on 2008/06/14)
        Programmer
        http://www.nowloading.co.uk

        I still have my K1000, lovely camera, and you can use it to hammer tent pegs/thieves skulls in as well as it's almost all solid brass body!

        Tue 2008/07/08 19:03:37 JST (ID #233303)
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  • marvin
    marvin (Registered on 2006/12/24)
    http://www.marvinryan.com

    forgot about recommendations... I'd recommend the Canon EF-S 17-85MM f4-5.6 IS USM.
    http://www.usa.canon.com/consumer/controller?act=ModelInfoAct&fcategoryid=149&modelid=10511
    equivalent to a 28-135mm lens. a great all around lens. better focusing distance of 1.15ft, comes with image stabilizer, has a decent enough wide angle and probably a lot cheaper.

    Tue 2008/07/08 11:49:33 JST (ID #233086)
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  • BeLe
    BeLe in Davao, Philippines (Registered on 2007/01/03)
    .NET/Web Developer
    http://scrumptious.animeblogger.net

    I'm not very familiar with canon lenses but I would actually recommend to anyone getting a 18-200mm lens for their dslr. Simply because you don't have to switch lenses anymore as you could lose a kodak moment the time you change your lens. And you don't have to carry extra lenses anymore since it'll be everything you'll need. Downside is that it's pretty heavy and bulky and the images are not quite as sharp in some 18-200mm. Go for it unless you're really picky down to every pixel, which most people wouldn't notice anyway.

    Tue 2008/07/08 11:57:44 JST (ID #233091)
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  • Roberto Poulpo
    Roberto Poulpo in Bordeaux, France (Registered on 2007/08/29)
    Product Manager and 3D Sculptor
    http://www.meuuh.net

    I have the same lens. I'm a little bit disappointed about it : the AF have sometime some troubles to find the spot, then, when you do a nice photo and take your time to do it, it's ok, but when you have to do some fast shoots, most of the time, the camera use a wrong AF spot (like 90% the background...)
    And the OS on and off doesn't change a lot for me...
    But as a daily lense, it's ok. Not the best, not the worst :)

    Tue 2008/07/08 12:20:53 JST (ID #233099)
    reply to Roberto Poulpo's comment
    • Danny Choo
      Danny Choo in Tokyo (Registered on 2006/12/11)
      CEO MIrai Inc
      http://www.dannychoo.com/profile/eng/

      What camera are you using?

      Tue 2008/07/08 12:34:35 JST (ID #233112)
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      • Roberto Poulpo
        Roberto Poulpo in Bordeaux, France (Registered on 2007/08/29)
        Product Manager and 3D Sculptor
        http://www.meuuh.net

        I have an EOS 350D which is a Digital Rebel XT if I'm not wrong (I'm in France)
        My best lens is the EF-S 10-22 mm that you also own from Canon :) I bought it after watching your photos when I did my trip in Japan, in akihabara. Thanks again :p

        Wed 2008/07/09 10:45:59 JST (ID #233871)
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  • Evil King
    Evil King in Vlaardingen, the Netherlands, Earth (Registered on 2007/12/18)
    Student and full-time otaku

    Wow, nice shot of the town that is. Don't know anything about lenses and cameras, but I know it's an expensive hobby to have. Me dad is still on old skool film-roll cameras though ^^

    Tue 2008/07/08 12:50:21 JST (ID #233131)
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  • elmimmo
    elmimmo in Tokyo (Registered on 2008/02/07)
    http://elmimmo.wordpress.com

    There is one Tamron going from 18-250 mm which is purportedly decent. I do not know what mounts for, though (I do know they have it for Pentax at least).

    Tue 2008/07/08 13:56:01 JST (ID #233155)
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  • Clentaron
    Clentaron in Finland (Registered on 2007/12/28)
    Student

    I've been thinking for many months of buying my first dslr, but I just can't seem to able to make up my mind. Probably gonna get Canon EOS Kiss F (1000D/Rebel XS) when in Japan next month, costs less there. The lens coming with the kit is just a basic lens, EF-S18-55mm F3.5-5.6 IS, but I think it's enough for a beginner like me.

    Then again, if I end up spending too much on figures and erogee, might have to skip the camera and buy it next year.

    Tue 2008/07/08 14:33:37 JST (ID #233174)
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  • aggitan
    aggitan in USA (Registered on 2008/04/08)
    Network Engineer
    http://www.aggitan.blogspot.com/

    Yesterday I ordered the Canon EOS 450D, it should be here today.

    Tue 2008/07/08 15:07:29 JST (ID #233185)
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    • gordon
      gordon in 新加坡 Singapore (Registered on 2007/06/11)
      銀河帝国五〇一軍团 TK/TD 8316 M.E.P.D. Police Sergeant
      http://gordonator.com/

      i hope to get this one too soon. that is if i don't buy any figures or gundams this month. ^^;

      Tue 2008/07/08 15:35:17 JST (ID #233207)
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  • Len-Vesper
    Len-Vesper in Quebec City, Canada (Registered on 2008/02/16)
    Network Architect, Administrator, Vmware Guru
    http://www.finetoo.org/

    I like the way that lens catches light. Gives a nice ambient glow. I can't seem to get the EXIF tag from that image - do you happen to remember what shutter speed/aperture/ISO you were using?

    The way it caught the light makes the picture subtle yet vibrant, or at least I find.

    I use a 18-55EFs and a 28-135 myself.

    Tue 2008/07/08 15:50:12 JST (ID #233219)
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  • CrazyAnimeTuga
    CrazyAnimeTuga in Portugal (Registered on 2007/01/02)
    Student
    http://animestuff.wordpress.com/

    I use the Sony Alpha 100 and going to get the SAL-24105 - 24-105mm f/3.5-4.5 which was recommended to me by a photography magazine technician

    Tue 2008/07/08 17:04:18 JST (ID #233253)
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  • Sgt Beavis
    Sgt Beavis in Dallas, TX, USA (Registered on 2007/07/23)
    Overpaid Computer Nerd
    http://www.flickr.com/photos/rboyett/

    I'm an Olympus man myself. I like the 4/3rds system which allows for smaller (and lighter) lenses. Also, Olympus has image stabilization built into the camera instead of the lens like Canon does.

    The only real downside used to be noise when using higher ISOs (like ISO 1600) but the E510, 520, and E3 seem to have done a very good job of overcoming that.

    Tue 2008/07/08 17:29:54 JST (ID #233264)
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  • ZeusII
    ZeusII in Barcelona (Registered on 2007/10/08)
    http://luna.elotrolado.net

    I've got this lenses since last year. I'm really happy with them. Great zoom and nice quality. With this, I only need to carry on lens when I go on a trip, and I don't need to bother changing them, just SHOT SHOT SHOT ;)

    I've taken 5000 photos on my last trip to japan using this lens. In my camera, the AF works really well, also when tracking moving targets, anyways, I can set the AF point in case the camera choses a wrong one. Stabilizer is nice, a great adittion but you better use a tripod (gonna buy one soon).

    The only downside I found is that on some situations with bad light, the fotos result a bit darker, but that is in part a fault of my Canon 400D and easyly solved shooting in manual+raw.

    Tue 2008/07/08 18:24:28 JST (ID #233286)
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  • Dead Snake
    Dead Snake in Ngayogyakarto Hadiningrat (Registered on 2007/05/11)
    writing mini thesises
    http://kazenomise.net/

    arrghh...many canon users here.... ^^;;

    any nikon users? me using nikon D40 with 2 lens ^^;; 18-55mm and 55-200mm LOL

    getting a 18-200 would be a very nice idea, but it seems my budget is on its limit now...must save money.....

    if u had 18-55mm and 55-200, would u sell them and get the 18-200?

    Tue 2008/07/08 18:28:23 JST (ID #233289)
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    • tetrflare
      tetrflare in Singapore (Registered on 2007/11/24)
      Spellcaster

      I'm using the nikon 18-200. From the reviews, it seems to be the best 18-200 lens among the brands.
      Beside the lens creep from heavy usage, I have no other complains. (It will not creep if lens is at the extreme) Slight softness at the 200mm if you pixel peep, but still very acceptable. The VR is simply amazing, much better than my Nikon 18-55mm VR.
      I kept my 18-55mm even though I have my 18-200mm because I though there may be a time I prefer a lighter and smaller lens, but that never happen.
      If you travel alot and need convenience, only then go change it, else I don't think it's worth the cost since you are on budget.
      Money vs Convenience

      Tue 2008/07/08 19:36:10 JST (ID #233344)
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      • Dead Snake
        Dead Snake in Ngayogyakarto Hadiningrat (Registered on 2007/05/11)
        writing mini thesises
        http://kazenomise.net/

        I decided to refrain myself from buying it, I will not buy a new lens until I can make decent photos from my current lens with my crappy skills ^^;; practice makes perfect....not the lenses.... ^^

        *bangs head to the table....

        Wed 2008/07/09 20:01:19 JST (ID #234201)
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    • Koshiko
      Koshiko in Sydney, Australia (Registered on 2007/08/03)
      website/graphic designer and karaoke amateur~
      http://www.furudango.com

      Nikon D40 <3 I'm so getting this one, I'm just trying to find it cheap it enough so I can get the 55-200 VR lens as well.
      Might be buying it soon as I'm planning to photograph a lot more for my new blog xD;
      If you need to be able to take out your camera and shoot straight away, then the 18-200 would be recommended, but I'd be very happy with any VR (Vibration Reduction) lens. It really depends on your budget and use.

      Tue 2008/07/08 22:13:37 JST (ID #233480)
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      • Dead Snake
        Dead Snake in Ngayogyakarto Hadiningrat (Registered on 2007/05/11)
        writing mini thesises
        http://kazenomise.net/

        I spent 1065 SGD for a package of D40kit(D40 body+AF-S 18-55mm)+ nikkor AF-S DX VR 55-200mm + 2 hoya filters + cam bag(lowepro...is it good?I think it is... ^^;; )+ small lenspen + 4GB lexar SD card

        this package was part of nikon's great singapore sale promotion, but when I compared the price with my country(indonesia) I think it's just a little cheaper...

        dunno the price in aussie ^^;;

        Wed 2008/07/09 19:58:40 JST (ID #234196)
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  • SFX2501
    SFX2501 in Vancouver (Registered on 2007/09/25)
    Lurking Web Designer

    IMO a 18-200mm with f/3.5-6.3 Is a great overall lens for everyday use, however I should mention a few things to you Danny: First we have the same camera, I don't know if you know this but because our cameras don't have 35mm sensors (we have 22.2mm) you have to multiply those focal lengths by a factor of 1.6x so you lens becomes a 29-320mm which is still within limits of everyday use. Also at 320mm zoom and f/6.3 you WILL need a tripod guaranteed unless you have an arm that is welded together. Personally for the pictures you take and what you are planning to take I would recommend the Canon 24-105mm f/4L (IS) but that lens is around $1000 USD so It is probably out of your budget. Sorry if I sounded a bit nerdy lol

    Tue 2008/07/08 18:56:27 JST (ID #233296)
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    • Edward
      Edward in SE Michigan/Osaka (Registered on 2006/12/24)
      Troubleshooter, Universal Exports
      http://funkyblueame.tumblr.com/

      This is a Sigma DC and is made for ASP-C sensor. No need for conversion.

      Wed 2008/07/09 00:12:08 JST (ID #233548)
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  • Insei
    Insei in Chile (Registered on 2008/06/12)
    Enginner, Photographer
    http://www.animetemuco.cl

    In the 17-85mm the good point is the IS.

    Is hard the choice of the lens, but U must think in the L series =)

    There is a telephoto 70-200 f4 L (canon). Isn't the best telephoto, but isn't the most expensive.

    Tue 2008/07/08 18:56:34 JST (ID #233297)
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  • bakkenrammer
    bakkenrammer (Registered on 2007/11/01)

    IMO, f/6.3 at 200mm is way too slow to be useful. You either need a monopod, tripod which in turn defeats the idea of travelling light. I personally use the 24-70 f/2.8 L as a general lens. Cheap lenses are also far too flimsy. In the olden days, lenses used to be lumps of metal and glass.

    Danny, if you want a telezoom...go for one of these:

    70-200mm f/4.0 L or if your budget allows it, get the IS version (image stabilizer). It's worth the investment if you want to experiment with photography.


    Tue 2008/07/08 20:30:48 JST (ID #233378)
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  • e-jump
    e-jump in Malaysia (Registered on 2007/12/22)
    Engineer by weekdays, Hikki by weekends
    http://ejump.wordpress.com/

    Is there such lense with that range for Sony alpha?
    currently im eying for one as its wasy for travelling, and might also consider wide lens.
    But im a total noob where recently i got conned on PL filter ;__;

    Tue 2008/07/08 21:25:16 JST (ID #233413)
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  • Koshiko
    Koshiko in Sydney, Australia (Registered on 2007/08/03)
    website/graphic designer and karaoke amateur~
    http://www.furudango.com

    I recommend any 'official' lenses, they lose less value over the years and are better quality overall. Try to get the IS one (Image Stabilisation), it will lessen the headache of finding out all your images are blurry when you check them on your computer ^^;;

    A very good resource for cameras and lenses in general can be found here -> http://www.kenrockwell.com/ - he uses mostly Nikon but does use Canon as well

    Tue 2008/07/08 21:43:33 JST (ID #233432)
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  • Edward
    Edward in SE Michigan/Osaka (Registered on 2006/12/24)
    Troubleshooter, Universal Exports
    http://funkyblueame.tumblr.com/

    Everyone, this is a Sigma lens and not brand specific. So on any APC-C size sensor camera, you should get the same results. Here are the specs. from the Sigma site: http://www.sigmaphoto.com/lenses/lenses_all_details.asp?id=3324&navigator=6

    I have the same concern as bakkenrammer about this lens. Since you will be using it in potentially low light areas, the lens is too slow. The widest maximum aperture at telephoto is small so this makes it a "slow" lens. Being slow it's not great for low light or action.

    Sorry no recommendations right now. I have been looking at lenses too, but mostly L series. ^^; I need to shop for something a little more in my budget. As I keep telling myself, don't forget your investment is in the glass. Camera bodies come and go as technology changes, but good glass will last.

    I'll drop you a line if I find anything interesting...

    Wed 2008/07/09 00:42:56 JST (ID #233557)
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  • Danny Choo
    Danny Choo in Tokyo (Registered on 2006/12/11)
    CEO MIrai Inc
    http://www.dannychoo.com/profile/eng/

    Thanks all for the great advice. I guess with many lenses its a case of "you wont know until you try it yourself" as I see both good and negative opinions of this lens.
    I wish there was a place that rented them ^^;

    Wed 2008/07/09 04:14:13 JST (ID #233675)
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    • Uchikoma
      Uchikoma in Wales (Registered on 2008/06/14)
      Programmer
      http://www.nowloading.co.uk

      See if the shop has a display lens, slap it on your camera and take a few test shots in the shop. You won't be able to try too many settings, but it should give you a chance to test things like focus hunt and sharpness.

      Wed 2008/07/09 11:03:17 JST (ID #233887)
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    • Dead Snake
      Dead Snake in Ngayogyakarto Hadiningrat (Registered on 2007/05/11)
      writing mini thesises
      http://kazenomise.net/

      why not borrow from a photo-geek comrade? ^^;; u don;t need to rent, u can try it for days, u get to know the lens better, u can decide to buy or not after returning the lens ^^

      Wed 2008/07/09 20:05:28 JST (ID #234205)
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  • kippei
    kippei in Singapore (Registered on 2007/09/01)
    Operation
    http://kitsunesuki.com

    24 - 105 F4L makes a good event lens

    Wed 2008/07/09 17:48:27 JST (ID #234075)
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  • lin-da-kenobi
    lin-da-kenobi in Lima, Peru ^^ (Registered on 2007/08/15)
    medicine student & otaku

    wooooaaa nice pix (right click Set As Background) ^^

    Fri 2008/07/11 08:47:45 JST (ID #235263)
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