Counterfeit Figures

Member wormgear ends up one of the worst counterfeit figures I've ever seen. This is just horrendous. A few more pics at his blog and here.
Looks like the seller of this figure is also using pictures of my Mirei too...
The online figure dealers I recommend for legit figures are...
[*] Hobby Search
[*] Anime Export
[*] Kid Nemo Company
[*] Anime USA
[*] Otaku Fuel
[*] Hobby Stock
[*] J List
And if you have other recommended trusted figure dealers then feel free to mention them here too. If you have horror stories of pre-order cancels, bad packaging or fakes then feel free to mention those too - we must protect the interests of the consumer!
Original text from wormgear below.
I saw a member post a few weeks ago about this, and coincidentally, the "Mirei-san" figure that I ordered two days before reading that was also a fake. I am pretty disappointed, but I have only myself to blame-- I really didn't examine the eBay auction carefully enough.
You can read more about it (and see more pics) here:
http://brotherwormgear.blogspot.com/2008/06/kounterfeit-kotobukiya_25.html
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student , otaku and awesome blogger
http://otakudan.com
that "thing" looks gross
Software Quality Engineer
http://brotherwormgear.blogspot.com/
It's just awful. It makes me sad.
CEO MIrai Inc
http://www.dannychoo.com/profile/eng/
Want to hijack this - could you make the other images on your blog enlargeable?
Software Quality Engineer
http://brotherwormgear.blogspot.com/
Here you go Danny-- a Photocast!
http://photocast.mac.com/brotherwormgear/iPhoto/fake_mirei/index.rss
CEO MIrai Inc
http://www.dannychoo.com/profile/eng/
Hmmm - still no work...
Software Quality Engineer
http://brotherwormgear.blogspot.com/
Shoot. I thought it would open up in your iPhoto. OK well THIS will work for sure!
http://web.mac.com/brotherwormgear/iWeb/Fake%20Mirei
Anigao Kigurumi Cosplayer, Professional mask maker.
http://www.kigurumicosplay.com
Was searching for figures on ebay(well there are decent sellers there too ok) and found a seller selling such figuress. The thing I didn't understand is how that seller get a rather high and positive rating from seemingly totally random people with high rankings themselves... or are people who buy these actually don't mind these.
student
http://zephi-san.deviantart.com/
That sucks, I would avoid anything that is exported from China thru ebay... My guess probably 90% fake counterfeit. Some from Hong Kong too are fakes.
I can see why you went with ebay, because the company has stopped producing the figure right?
Software Quality Engineer
http://brotherwormgear.blogspot.com/
It seems to be sold out everywhere, and yes-- it's no longer in production. I'm hoping I can still find one.
Merchant
I was thinking on buying one in Amazon.com for 89USD and aahhh too slow someone bought it first. This figure is one of my most regrets, why did't bought it on time. Kotobukiya should release Mirei San again.
Merchant
Btw sorry for that rip off and I will join you in your quest :(
Software Quality Engineer
http://brotherwormgear.blogspot.com/
Thank you Dann!
Rogu!!
There's another option its kind of expensive, but you could have people buy it for you from Japan and have it sent to it. I'm not trying to advertise for the site but, its an example, try shoppingmalljapan.com but I've used this to get a rare Saber figure anyways.
It'll cost you a big premium but if u really want it, thats one way.
Teacher, Artist, Writer
http://eatdrinkmanotaku.blogspot.com/
: ( sad panda.
For collectors or lovers of particular anime nothing is worse than counterfeits ><
http://darkdam.deviantart.com/
I know how you fell man. I actually brought a model of Lei Feng from DOA of ebay with a price that was "to good to be true." The box says kotobukiya but the figure was poor quality and had red marks all over her body. Looks like an defect model.
free lance otaku, full time Protector of Peace.
Quoting from your blog..."but a very cheap imitation made by a rip-off artist in China"...What I think is happening is that it's a defect copy that they sold you. Most manufacturers always have over tons of defects. For eg, out of 10 good ones that they sold, they probably threw out 100. I'm currently working as a packer in an ebay seller company, and it's a fact that I throw out hundreds of my stuffs daily inorder to send out only 20 of them. Same case for all ebay seller out there.
Yours was probably a defect and some black-hearted chinese took it and sold it to some third party dealer, which explains the lousy packaging etc..
free lance otaku, full time Protector of Peace.
btw: i order some figures from http://www.tokyofantasy.com/
CEO MIrai Inc
http://www.dannychoo.com/profile/eng/
A defect of a rip off?
free lance otaku, full time Protector of Peace.
a defect of the original kotobukiya. and most, if not ALL, figures are made in china.. we have to bare in mind that.
http://www.marvinryan.com
I don't think it's a defective kotobukiya. workmanship is to shroudy to pass off even as a reject. it's true that figures like Mirei are made in China, but you can't say that there aren't fake figure makers out there as well. although it is true that saying "very cheap imitation made by a rip-off artist in China" is a tad bit stereotypical, and who knows it might have been manufactured some place else. but you can't honestly say that it could not have been made in China as well.
Software Quality Engineer
http://brotherwormgear.blogspot.com/
Yeahhh-- honestly, no stereotypes or racism intended here, I just assumed it must be a locally-produced item (local to the seller). Well, I certainly learned my lesson!
Student / Software Engineer
so danny, how can you tell that they used your picture?
Software Quality Engineer
http://brotherwormgear.blogspot.com/
Wow!!! Actually I didn't know what Danny meant by that initially, but I see now-- the photos in that eBay auction are the photos that Danny took of HIS Mirei-san figure!! That's CRAZY-- check it out!
http://www.dannychoo.com/gallery_theme/eng/gallery_mirei/photo/Mirei+San/
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=230248582917
I wonder if sub-consciously, I felt safe ordering the figure because I had seen those exact same photos before!! That just blew my mind....
CEO MIrai Inc
http://www.dannychoo.com/profile/eng/
compare photos in links posted by wormgear.
-1
http://necrophadian.blogspot.com/
I never, ever trust Ebay (especially if the seller is from China, sorry if I sound racist/schmooist/whatever-ist). If a product i want is sold out, i just do a /sigh and smack myself in the head for not grabbing it sooner. Ebay is a cesspool of fakes and misinformation.
student
That's not racist that's just being careful. I don't trust ebay either and never buy there. ^_^
Animation Grad looking for work
I recently started using ebay but had a feeling all the really awesome deals outta china were too good to be true. I bought a counterstrike Rei and it looked legit with the sega packaging and it came from China. Maybe I was lucky?
Software Quality Engineer
http://brotherwormgear.blogspot.com/
I had already purchased some really great and long-out-of-production figures on eBay, so I believed it to be safe, regardless of where the seller was located. Check these out (especially if you're a fan of Vagabond: http://brotherwormgear.blogspot.com/2008/03/return-of-god-of-death.html )
BTW - I fixed the links on my blog so that the fake mirei photos can be enlarged; I don't know what happened there.
http://www.marvinryan.com
got a fake Saber once,
http://www.marvinryan.com/blog/2006/09/16/fatestay-night-saber-french-doll-cerberus-project/
was a figure newbie then so couldn't tell the difference. thankfully folks at figure.fm pointed it out and I got a refund.
here's how to tell if that certain saber figure is a fake:
http://www.marvinryan.com/blog/2006/09/16/fake-figures/
part time illustrationist, doll clothing seamstress
http://puppy52art.com/
Hmmm Danny are U going to complain to ebay about them using your photo without your permission? So frigging annoying ugh!
CEO MIrai Inc
http://www.dannychoo.com/profile/eng/
not going to waste my time on this one. It is annoying...
part time illustrationist, doll clothing seamstress
http://puppy52art.com/
so frustrating that ebay probably also makes it difficult for the people to report stolen images =_=; *shakes fists*
http://www.marvinryan.com
ebay, multiply, frindster, myspace, etc. they are all the same. they won't take responsibility for their users. then again if they did they would probably be drowned out by lawsuits. ^^
student, vexillologist
http://twitter.com/zscout370
That is why Danny Choo watermarks his photographs and whatnot before he posts them here. He mentioned also why in the post about his (and other's) photos from Sleeping in Tokyo.
part time illustrationist, doll clothing seamstress
http://puppy52art.com/
I find it kinda ironic that the ebay image thief watermarked danny's pix with his own too lol
G-man hunter
that said iv'e seen plenty of people on ebay with pictures that have other companies logos watermarked on the pics and not photo's of the item they're selling
student, vexillologist
http://twitter.com/zscout370
I seen that often too.
already left the world
Ironic it's seems but majority of Original Figurines were also Made in China
My Max Factory Karen & Miina from Please Twins series had the "Made in China" logo too.
I thought they were made them in Japan.
oh well, i'll just follow our local trusted stores.
Student
Yikes!!
That's horrible.
Online Shop
http://wildarms.egloos.com
Ebay is such a bad place for figures, you can never tell whether they are legit or fake... My sympathy to wormgear >_<
Student
http://www.tecurious.com
I like how the bolded/colored words in the "Satisfaction guarantee" section in the ebay auction read "WE FOR WE"
>_>
Engineering research
http://kikenshisou.wordpress.com
ご愁傷さま。I can imagine the fevered anticipation of arrival of an out-of-print figure then falling in the crushing depths to find its a fake. Even though I've just started collecting figures myself ^^;
Personally I've only tried Hobby Link Japan <http://www.hlj.com> No major problems so far except inherent minor manufacturing defects.
student
http://zephi-san.deviantart.com/
I'm very happy with Hobby Link Japan as well. Fast to process orders, good packaging.
???Confused???
Yikes, I was thinking of making my first purchase of figures from ebay soon, but this is giving me second thoughts...is it alright to assume it might be legit if the seller is from Japan?
Oh and my condolences, Wormgear, for that unfortunate purchase...
software manager
http://wawawawasuremono.com
I've gambled a bit with ebay and so far haven't been burned [*knocks on wood*]: max factory mikuru, gsc lineage ii dark elf, alter arcueid all looking legit as far as i can tell. max factory ryoko, alter fate and kotobukiya erika sendo on their way atm. look carefully at the seller's feedback - i found one power seller with 2k+ transactions but 6 negative comments in the last 3 months. most of them were about bootleg figs so i steered clear of that one.
i'd never assume anything, 'specially based soley on location. you may want to submit requests to the seller for pics of the product if they've pulled their images from elsewhere.
good luck!
???Confused???
Thanks for the tips!!! I'll take it into account when I plan my purchase...
dannychoo.com の読者
they wat i usually do as well, try to google out that seller. changes you might see some angry customer posting picture of bootleg products from him in forums.
example searching in google "username bootleg"
大がくせい
I've been careful when buying figure and also my high standard for figure would usually make me not interested in bootleg to begin with. I've been buying pretty much all my figure(and also some game and soundtrack) from http://www.play-asia.com no copy of figure their.
大がくせい
Oh also forgot to mention, I did look in the past to buy figure on e bay but I just couldn't trust the dealer, and even when I asked if the figure the was official one or not the dealer only replied "I don't know". So I avoid e bay for figure.
Castoffable figurines fan
Hmm, the counterfeit figure is made of PVC or resin/cold cast? Because from the pics of the packaging in your blog, that kind of packaging usually used to pack resin/cold-cast figurines. For counterfeited PVC figure, usually even the box is counterfeited too.
BTW, aside from counterfeited PVC figure, you can also find lots of prepainted resin/cold cast figure too (and they are't legal either; some of them are recast of resin kit from WF etc)
Student
the description on that ebay link said it is a resin kit...
Pokemon master
http://thecococafe.wordpress.com/
Ew. :[
I once saw some trading figures on ebay that had paint peeling off, and they were leaning all over the place. That seller had to have been some sort of idiot.
Student
http://animestuff.wordpress.com/
I only buy figures and gunpla from stores I trust, never through Ebay because I don't trust it. A good friend of mine is most likely going to start selling his figures on Ebay and they're all legit because he owns a shop and I buy most of my stuff from him.
IT
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ronaldbayan/
I have a chinese knock-off of Kazumi, which the retailer was honest enough to tell me. except for the shiny hair its almost like the original. I got it because the original is no longer available over here. I stay away from Ebay.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ronaldbayan/2585962709/
Student of LIFE!
There are lots of bootlegs here! its so irritating, and the worse part is they price it almost the same as the real thing so its a complete ripoff! i've had my share of rip offs,about 2 ;_;
銀河帝国五〇一軍团 TK/TD 8316 M.E.P.D. Police Sergeant
http://gordonator.com/
i do most of my purchase at local shops. else its from HobbyLink Japan (HLJ). i like how HLJ do the packaging. ^^;
Exchange Student
HLJ ftw! Alway order from them and never had a problem.
student
Same here. Delivery usually takes a few weeks though..
Student and full-time otaku
Terrible. Ebay is really dangerous for that sort of thing. I always check the feedback properly and *never* order anything from China. It's best to look for sellers from Japan that also offer EMS; sofar I've never been wrong with that.
Hikikomori in the making
http://supermariabros.deviantart.com/
This is just wrong... I guess we all have to watch each others' backs so that something like this don't happen again...
Student
ouch...I saw few fake figures here and there, but they are easy to spot. When shop on ebay, read the description several times before the purchase... sometimes you just can't be cheap on certain things, especially the ones u love/like
Pre-U Student
http://wakuwakusuru.zeroclipse.net
Yeah.. If the price is too good to be true then most prolly its a fake. Have bought figures from HK sellers over eBay but have not gotten any counterfeits so far. Only use eBay for figures that are discontinued from manufactures and can't be bought from the usual stores.
Network Specialist by day, Otaku by some other time
I was lucky enough to own another version of Mirei-san from Kotobukiya. Got it for a bargain for $39 from www.play-asia.com. it was one where she is wearing red. I was very hesistant as it may have been a bootleg but was overwhelmed when it arrive after 2 weeks.
Pre-U Student
http://wakuwakusuru.zeroclipse.net
Play Asia is a reputable store and I don't think they will ever sell bootleg products.
Game Designer & 2D Artist
http://catzstudio.blogspot.com/
I'd second that.. PA has been reputable... so far :P
got my original Mirei from them too
Engineering computing
Me too, me too.. Play Asia is good
I buyed Mirei-san "HK Comic Fair 2007 Special" at $39, black hair and red dress, very beautiful!
3D artist
http://andyh.cgsociety.org
Hm, well the ebay listing describes it very clearly as a resin figure. Its bound to not be the official one, as it was PVC.
http://girlg33k.blogspot.com/
If you live in America, it wouldn't be a bad idea to pick up a Diamond Previews catalog every month. You can find them in any comic book store. You can order figures, books, etc, that are being released in America, and also Japanese imports of books and things. Some of the stuff is for retail (meaning you'd have to buy in bulk), but most of the stuff ya'll would probably buy you can order individually.
NSF, Hikkikomori
http://yukikaze.wordpress.com/
when buying stuff from overseas, its best to go through reputable japanese links or if possible inspect them in person.
Admin
I have 3 authentic Mirei-san:
(a) HK Comic Fair 2007 Special version - red with black bra/panties (still available at Play Asia http://www.play-asia.com/paOS-13-71-8x-77-1-49-en-15-mirei-70-28pi.html)
(b) Kanto-region exclusive version - purple with white bra/panties (http://www.kotobukiya.co.jp/item/page/pvc_aos_mirei/index.shtml)
(c) Blue Abyss version - deep blue with red bra/panties (still available through http://www.kotobukiya.co.jp/item/page/pvc_aos_mirei_b/index.shtml)
I'm in the process of getting the Kansai-version exclusive - blonde Mirei san in white with purple bra/panties (http://ichigekizero.blogspot.com/2007/08/mirei-san-kansai-version-photos.html).
Basically, I bought :
(a) the HK Comic version through Play-Asia.
(b) the Kanto-version through Yahoo Japan Auction (mint in box)
(c) the Blue-Abyss version through Amazon Japan (follow the link in the Kotobukiya online store)
(d) the Kansai-version through Yahoo Japan Auction (the seller states it's second hand, but it comes nicely repacked in the box)
I'm sorry you bought the counterfeit Mirei-san.
motion capture editor
its a shame to see people counterfeiting things, less money in the market means less quality releases...when will people learn.
anyway as for legit places i get my figures from
cd japan
hobby link japan
toyslogic
Finance
http://www.eetaku.com
Amazing. The Mirei was obviously fake but then the saber with the box looked pretty legit...I wouldn't have known the difference.
Wanderer of the Mist
http://hangmen13.16ops.com/
Make that butt-ugly fake Mirei an official DC avatar LOL.
Polytechnic Junior, Bronze Lifesaving Trainee, Mech Designer In-training.
http://thehangerbay.wordpress.com/
Another unfortunate joining the ranks of MOK-KOS and Sader.
Anime Store Owner, artist, Web master
http://www.chucksanimeshrine.com
wow that's a terrible Mieri. Another cheap Chinese ripoff.
Anime Store Owner, artist, Web master
http://www.chucksanimeshrine.com
*I mean Mirei....probably said "Mieri" on the package.
Overman
http://myplasticmoustache.blogspot.com/
Gah, I've felt that kind of burn too, from a fakish-looking Kazami Mizuho with a suspicious clear top.
オタク all day long
http://www.nekomagic.com
That's so sad =(
I bought some counterfeit figures on ebay couple times. That really pissed me off.
Study Services Analyst
http://nrshenanigans.blogspot.com/
I'm pretty sure I might have counterfeit Haruhi Nendoroid. It looks pretty good, but i bought it on ebay for $8. Thats a tell tell sign. But i would be pissed to pay full price for a ripoff!
Secretary
http://figured.wordpress.com/
Animexing.com strung me along for ages, and they charged me UP FRONT for a pre-order. Very weird.
Insurance CSR
Been getting a majority of my figures from www.toylet.net and I am saving on shipping since its only like 10 min away from work. If anyone knows frank and sons and is in the OC/ LA Area in California, they should also check out this place too. The owner larry is pretty up to date on his site and has alot of the newer figures on his site for preorder as well.
mechanic
http://mangarabbit5000.deviantart.com/
man, that sucks....Ive been buying figures from ebay on occasion, but it is usually from independent individuals looking to sell the figures due to no more space, or to buy new ones. i luckily have had no fakes and i usually ask for better detailed photos from seller. if they cant produce photos i wont buy from them!.........ive recently started buying from online companies from japan, or middleman companies like j-list.
NEET
that just looks disgusting -_-'
Studio Photographer
http://www.flickr.com/photos/nyxin/sets/
Wow that looks horrible! Since a lot of bootlegs come out of HK I'm usually very hesitant to buy anything from there with eBay or anything. I do a lot of research like checking feedback and googling to see if they've been mentioned in forums as possible bootleg sellers before buying and even then that's only if I can't find it anywhere else. Sometimes I request actual pics instead of stock/promo pics if I'm still not sure. Haven't got a bootleg yet but I've only gotten 2-3 figs from eBay HK sellers and thankfully they're legit.
Student
It really is of shoddy quality compared to the original. Maybe it would be good for you to practice either your painting or customizing skills on?
Programmer Trainee
http://jointsareokay.blogspot.com
Ouch.
Am so sorry to hear.
To think I was planning to order a figma from there >_<
Better not then...but it looks real...and the person claims it's from Max Factory
Student
http://y4.deviantart.com
Man taht sucks.... sorry to hear that.... i donno if you are still looking for that figure, but in this site which i ordered from and is definitly legit, there is a alternate version of your figure in stock
http://www.locushk.com/index.php?sp=&p=6&cat2=151&cat1=19&cat0=7&id=980&cat1=19&cat0=7&new=&more=&s=0250510c9fe608c9b875d1f33ac8617b&lang=en
University Student
In terms of actual online stores, I trust Kid Nemo since every order I've had through them so far has gone smoothly and wonderfully (although I have A LOT on pre-order with them and hope I don't get screwed over like poor Meronpan has with cancelled pre-orders in the future. http://wawawawasuremono.com/figure-store-reviews/ ). You just can't fail with Hobby Search. They're fantastic! Unfortunately, the shipping costs an arm, a leg, and various internal organs. I really wish they had a North American branch. I'm not too impressed with ToysLogic so far since they've cancelled 3 of my 6 pre-orders. :(
As for eBay, I trust Tokyo Hunter the most. He's professional, responds very quickly, and there's no question about the authenticity of his products. ^_^ There's also toys.japan . It looks kind of sketchy how he raises and lowers the figure cost vs. the shipping cost constantly depending on competing auctions (I watched his auctions for a long time before deciding to buy). I know it's probably to remain competitive, but it kinda makes the eyebrow rise. I can testify that he does sell legit merch though. Max Factory's Kureha is currently directly in front of me. She's flawless and her box had the shiny, holographic "H Japan" sticker and all. =^_^=
student, otaku, fast food worker
I've never seen a real Mirei so i cant say as to how bad it looks.
I just order'ed a figure off animecornerstore.com I'm new to the whole figure buying experience and most of mine have been buys from DC and actual purchases from store's. I wont know if I got a real one or a badly made fake till I get the shipment within a few days. Hopefully I'll be getting a real "Race Queen" Rei Ayanami from Kotobukiya... I plan on posting an article as soon as I am able to due to restriction for upload's on her authenticity.
Here's hoping!