Moe Anime

I can't seem to get into certain moe anime like To Love Ru. It really depends of on the story IMO

Is it only me or the coment box isn't working properly? o.o

haruhi aint stupid thats one thing for sure 100%. although toloveru did have fanservices which made it different from the manga a bit. anime lately is fun yet sorta gives me the feeling of bordome only like 13%

Anime with too much fanservice really turns me off, unless there is has really good comedy to compensate. Am I the only one who gets tired of execesive panchira?

They said that the show Seinfeld was "a show about nothing." It was probably the most watched television sitcom here. There was no plot just people reacting to situations in a weird way. I see most of these Anime as the same thing. You give a setting and you have the characters react in a funny way to situations. I prefer these types of Anime to ones like KimiKiss Pure Rogue where it took 20+ episodes to get to the point.

maa, basically i prefer lightweight stories and/or romance comedy stories so i dont think it's that bad... true that sometimes the lack of what you call substance may get annoying tho.. one thing that i hate from anime is when there's too many ecchiness/fan service in it... example is, Ikkitousen, I have no doubt that ikkitousen has great story, but i haven't watch it yet because too many pantsu shot in it >.<
and i dont think anime with only moe can get that popular...

I still love anime, but I've watched so much and so many different kinds over the years that I can get easily bored. Every anime series has "slow" periods; an average-quality series with no moe will probably end up losing my interest during the inevitable slow periods, whereas if it had decent moe I might be able to bear through it. Though it's easy to spurn cheap thrills, the truth is that a bit of cheap thrill can go a long way towards sustaining interest.
Of course, if the series is high-quality, then it doesn't matter whether or not if it's moe. However like everything else in life, high-quality things are the exception, not the norm.

It usually depends on the mood you're in. Too much of one thing can lead to boredom, and you might even think that it lacks a good story. I guess watching too much anime can be a bad thing, since my one friend watches alot of it back then. Now he doesn't really try out any new anime. Only anime he watches now is Code Geass season 2.

I am a big fan of moe animes, but if they lack substance it does not always make it to my watch list. Even so, it is good to sit down and watch some for laughs. Excessive fan service turns me off, but I happen to like ToLoveRU. Yami-chan >:b. But for such ecchi anime, they just can not compare to watching a HQ anime story that is so full of art in both the content and animation, that it puts me at the edge of my chair. These HQ anime are what I worship.
a.k.a. geeking out >:b

i usually go for story or content first, if not, will drop it after a few eps.
do welcome moe anime, but really had to have content for me to watch it till the end and continue next season

mmm i enjoy the eye candy for what it is, and it just makes the good ones that much more special ^_^

I think this is a useless discussion.
Different tastes, that's all.
Something that can be meaningless to some, might be very interesting to others, and vice-versa.
I never label this or that anime "crap", because they might be interesting to others.

Lots of people hate animes like Haruhi or Lucky Star just for the sake of it... most of the haters didn't even watch it. They only hate it because other people worship it.

Mainstream stuff will always have fans and haters.

Also, I guess every anime fan will someday face the "all animes looks like copies" phase. I had it, but I didn't go on forums to say crap about them.

As for me, I watched lots of interesting stuff lately, but don't have the time to commit to this or that series unfortunatelly.

Loved Hidamari Sketch, and watched some episodes of Manabi Straight.
I don't mind the occasional fanservice, as long as it doesn't completely shadows the whole story.

But yeah, since the dawn of Internet discussions and the popularization of anime, there's been discussions about how "animes these days are lacking substance".

There are lots of fans out there that takes one anime in particular.. like Ghost in the Shell, Akira or Evangelion... and think no other animes are worthy.

I say bullshit. Pita-ten can be as significant as Eva, it only depends on who's watching.

I haven't had time to take a look at the latest ones, but yeah like most say it's all about individual taste no sense arguing about it...

It's true that recently there has been an increase in moe titles, and some are indeed disappointing, most notably ToloveRu in terms of animation alone. And although we really need studios like Gonzo to keep making high quality stuff, moe is also a part of anime. So if you don't like it, dont nag; there are enough other great titles out there to watch. And as for Haruhi, those folks obviosly don't know what they're talking about.

imo once the manga becomes anime, everything usually (key word: usually) went to Hell. They just seem to not able to do a good enough job on the anime part. So i guess this doesn't concern me(=p) but i wonder why does every anime HAVE to have a substance? As a form of entertainment i think it's great to be pointless, because there are, imo, too much "points" in the real world and it's in anime that you can find a relaxing haven.

I don't know what they're complaining about--this is, in my opinion, one of the greatest seasons for anime in a long time!

I haven't watched much anime lately... but I did watch Haruhi and I think it's not just some moe-saturated fan-service-y anime. It's actually quite deep with a very interesting story to tell (give me season 2 already!). After all I think it's all based on a book.

Also, I've been wanting to see "Allison to Lilia" which is made by the same guy who did kino's journey - which I thought was great.

This last season has been one of the weaker in my opinion, I really scaled way back in viewing hours. I mean waaayy back. I'm hoping this is just a seasonal cycle and that things pick up this summer. I'm basically just watching Macross Frontier and Code Geass R2!!! Barely enough viewing to fill a weekend morning.

I just ignore what other people say about an anime. I don't care what other people say about it, if I like watching it then leave me alone -_-

IMO Haruhi is GOD!!! XD

As of late it is alright- however I pray that the manga-ka do not stray from good story telling and produce work sorely for the purpose of getting a quick buck for minimal drawing. I'm not sure why Haruhi is popular- I think it is because of her personality rather than any point to the storyline. Lucky Star (recently finished) was all about the lives of four schoolgirls and mainly on Konata and Otaku culture. The english release is coming out in the USA now, and now that I have my job I am going to secure the goods! Bandai is releasing it so I am sure they will carry through on committments, unlike Geneon who couldn't finish what they started, despite a loss!

Aria seems out of place in that discussion.

Haven't really watched the latest anime but don't really pay attention to animes that are only "moe" or full of fanservice. But can't tell which way anime lately has been going though havent ran into really interesting series lately so guess the quality is going down, mostly I watch older series now (Touch, Maison Ikkoku, Ginga Eiyuu Densetsu for example).

I'd agree that To love ru and zero no tsukaima somewhat lacking in substance but they're fun to watch so I watch them. I don't like the borderline porn of kanokon though. I also dropped Rosario+vampire as it lacks substance and I don't think it fun. I did read more manga of it though also dropped it some time ago.
As for aria, who said it doesn't have substance? It's pretty deep with character interaction and the "kiseki" stuffs. It lights up my life quite a few times. Girls are cute in it is a plus.

Substance is different between ppl and just that it does have substance doesn't mean it's fun to watch. I just watch what I love. I do watch anime based on reviews but quite a few of times I also watch anime that don't have good reviews and hate some that have good reviews.
In the end, watch what you like and don't watch what you don't. Who cares about opinion of others on things (novels and movies are the same) like this.

I agree that there are many moe series out there. Many companies are making moe series since it's relatively easy to produce(no need for complicated story) and can make gazillion merchandises. Because right now people can easily download anime series and so forth, companies don't make much profits from advertising(many moe series are broadcasted late at night or early morning) and DVD sales so they want to make profits from merchandises and so hence this trend of moe anime is happening.

I guess most of it has been said... but yea you can always argue about the taste of people. I did like Lucky Star lots, same with Haruhi and many other animes and yea i still watch ToLoveRU too, i wanna know how the story goes on. Though, that's my "problem" - if i start to watch an anime i will finish it cause i wanna know how it ends lol.
But if i look at my recent shows i notice that i did swap a lot from the "good for everyone" into the "more for girls" area... but i supose thats only due the availability of those.

I actually agree with the subject of the above conversation you mentioned. Its why ive found myself getting less and less into anime, and finding myself being inspired by other things.
Anime nowadays just seems intent on cramming as much boobs and vacuous, identikit moe girls into it to please the fans. I havent seen an anime with great character designs for ages.
I dont agree that Haruhi is a stupid anime though - its wierd, but its original and has likeable characters.
I really miss animes with substance and truly great, likeable characters such as Samurai Champloo and Cowboy Bebop. Oh, and everyone seems to want to stick mechas in their animes nowadays too! If there is an anime out there similar to Bebop, Champloo, FLCL and other classic animes, let me know, cos im not that impressed with the current offerings like claymore, code geass, to love ru, zero etc...

Cencoroll looks really intresting, but it seems to be taking forever to come out.

oh, it's my wallpaper !

here we go with the anime you watch sucks and mine doesn't discussion. these kinds of discussion always end up like that. i think we should all treat anime like food, i have my own tastes so don't mind what i like!

I just watch any anime that I find interesting...

to love-ru isn't Moe, it's just Ecchi (and not even that ecchi when compared to Kamen no maid Guy or Kanokon).

But given that moe is pretty damn hard to define, I fail to see how one could really write up a valid argument on the subject. and there is substance in the mentioned show, Even to love-ru. But it just sounds like some people are easily distracted by other things.
They are not GitS or Serial experiments lain, but I would rather that not all anime require me to concentrate and give complete undivided attention for every episode.

is haruhi even moe? well, except for mikuru....? I find it simply a creative way of presenting a show besides, there are more brainless anime out there. Personally, moe isn't for me since i tend to gravitate to the darker or comedy genres. But nonetheless, they are cute XD

I didn't know that Aria was an moe anime =.=;

Just like with anything, there's a certain amount of low-quality in anime...

I stopped watching ToLoveRu, primarily because I just had so much else of a higher interest for me to watch.

But I do love the well-done moe anime, especially when it's not just cheesecake, but is a bit of slice of life, like Minami-ke.

I don't know how anyone who watches anime can say something like "Haruhi is a stupid anime with no substance but why is it so popular?" Take, for instance, Naruto. Or Bleach. Are those moe titles? No. Is there any substance to them? Probably not. But those two are (or at least, were) two of the most popular anime in Japan.

Someone please help me understand Moe better. I didn't think such arguments could come from the word. I mean, I read somewhere that 2007 was "year of the Moe." What is a "Moe" anime?

What I define as Moe, were cute characters. I call Kamio Misuzu Moe but that doesn't mean AIR is filled with fan service ecchi scenes. o.o So what do people mean when they cal a series Moe?

I put anime girls in their own classes based on their body, personality, and innocence. And it's the cute child like characters that I consider Moe...So someone help me out here?

I don't know about To Love Ru or Zero no Tsukaima, but I would say Aria is far from lacking substance. Series don't need to be epic to have substance (*cough*Yotsuba*cough*)

As long as the story is good, I will happily watch. The animation is secondary for me.

HARUHI HAS SUBSTANCE DAMMIT!! Its got a fantastic story!!! Why do you think it was a popular novel first!?!

I ditched To Love Ru after one episode. Not something I wanted to waste my time on. But last season I did enjoy something called um... Goshuushou-sama Ninomiya-kun. I didn't even bother with Kanokon though. But I'm still watching 9 current series, of varying degrees (from goofy Kamen no Maid Guy to serious Nijuu Mensou no Musume).
I really enjoyed Haruhi myself, but I still think it's extremely overrated.

Well, what did they expect? "Lack of substance" is a rather subjective term if you ask me; I as a mecha fan wouldn't feel half the passion of Clannad fans while watching Clannad, and likewise for said fans watching Code Geass too. People should stop complaining for once and try to see if they can actually do a better job.

I have no problem with ToLoveRu besides that they don't need to do filler eps., but it looks like they are which up sets me a little. I love ecchi anime as well as anime that make me think. I love "slice of life" anime the most so ecchi animes are my bonus after I watch those.

Maybe I'm getting old (21) but i share the sentiment that a great deal of people want Moe anime for the sake of watching hot girls doing whatever. Dont get me wrong, i like it, but if given the choice between ToLoveRu or the Karas films, I'd go with Karas.
Am I losing the plot/getting old/stoopid ^-^;

Feel like I'm rehashing, but I don't think there's much of a problem. Yes, there are shows with excessive fanservice - someone mentioned Ikkitousen (I don't even remember the plot, it's borderline pure-H). I think there are enough good shows to balance it out though. It's all a matter of taste, preference and mood. Depending on what I'm feeling at the time, the same show could be wonderful or completely boring. And hey, sometimes I feel like brainless entertainment.

I personally like To LOVE-Ru; Zero was okay. I'm in the middle of Aria right now though, and I have to say that it's almost a masterpiece. It's amazing that it can have such a slow plot, with a complete lack of an antagonist, and still be entertaining.

1 thing i know for sure
tho i dunno if it true
this base on every otaku culture lately

onemanga newest manga scan, the new 1 in directory (from all u member posted) are filled with boobs/pantsu and some other moe factor, seem to be made at 2006-2007
this make manga transform into getting more perverted and perverted
i dun think the author like to do this, but they create a series, lot of ppl buy it and editor make/force them to make it
anime, since the beginning of 2007, i don't add much list on my watch list, moe, moe, moe factor everywhere, i re-watch all my old anime series

to me, right now, moe ARE overrated factor that must be place in every anime, this is why u see alot of director create alot of moe, otaku demands it
but we, the old otaku/pure otaku doesn't like this, much
new otaku are into perverted stuff, that is sad, yet an old/pure otaku is very few compared to new otaku

I generally try to watch only one or two moe anime per season... I find that their content (plot, humor, etc) isn't always that great, so usually I watch the first few episodes of all of them and then only watch the ones I enjoyed the most.

I have no problem with them if they're sort of directed at different audiences/they have different themes, etc, but most of them are really similar so it makes them boring...

I kind of agree. I don't think Haruhi is substanceless, but a lot of moe anime recently like To Love Ru, Kanokon, and Goushuushousama Ninomiya-kun are extremely pointless. Why are they so popular, then? Fanservice. You guys can't deny watching a series because it has cute girls. Just my two cents.

I've been to a con lateley where there was a presentation about this. Even they said that the industry is getting a bit flat, and there is more focus on crowdpleaser moe anime out there even mixing up shojo and shonen stuff to reach a greater audience (=more profit). Personally I don't mind, I like To Love-ru and even RosarioXV, and for Haruhi I don't even think it was about fanservice at all it did have a really good plot. (And looking at the light novel I couldn't see any moe either)
I usually switch between moe and more serious titles depending on what mood I have. Sometimes I feel like watching some Kanokon (obviously for the story's sake;) and sometimes I need something thought-provoking. But I must say I'm somehow missing the more serious titles from the new releases, so on the long run there might be a problem with that. (I still have some older titles on the watchlist)
Another thing: I noticed how many season 2 and 3 are coming out, but couldn't find any interesting NEW pieces.

"Haruhi is a stupid anime with no substance"
No way! It's one of the best anime in these couple years!

Moe is always criticized as being superficial and pointless (which it is, though I can't deny being a fan), but the way I see it, it's just as shallow as GAR and the mindless fighting and explosions you see in old mecha. Anime doesn't have to be deep to be good.

I love almost all anime to be honest. I'm not scared to say, I love tons of fan service, call me what you want but I like what I like. xD Also, I don't mean this to be insulting... but I think some people try to play down how much they like fan service, or deny it so as to not look like a pervert, well for anyone who does, or in case you don't realize that you really do like it, let me tell you this; it's a perfectly natural and human thing to like and feel, no one should feel as if it's wrong in any way, male or female, it's not dirty either, how do you think we all came to being? ^^

Speaking of moe, has anyone here heard of the International Moe League. As of recently, it seems as if there have been attempts to shut the league down. I went to the site earlier today and now it has disappeared? What's up wit dat?

I think it's because their stories/plot are easier to chew.

I mean we already stressed in real life because of our problems.

That's why we turn to entertainment like Anime to relax a bit.. rather than watch something that is mind bending that could add to stress maybe.

I bet the best Anime out there are the ones that could stress my brain. (or maybe my brain power is just low XD )

Then again, it would just boil down to what the person likes.

If a series introduces many characters with unique traits (different moe youso) and tends to emphasize those traits with shallow action-reaction behaviour, I would consider it to be more focused on the draw than the substance. This is why I like joke-heavy anime, since the enjoyability level can lie in things that are not rehashing an old Rumiko Takahashi manga.

I don't mind moe, as long as its not the only thing holding the show together, that is.
Both Zero and Haruhi are baes on novels, so I doubt that they'd be lacking in content as a novel but, I can see the turnover to anime being spread a bit thin in contrast. For the most part, anime has many genres and even the 'seemingly pointless' shows have an impact somehow.

I read the novels partly through the anime so I found Haruhi to be quiet deep - I mean come on what other anime is based on existential phenomenonalism (Descartes` anyone?)

I prefer anime with a strong back story, ala Code Geas or something with a a slice of life and doesn't pretend to be something it is not - ala Moyashimon.

Then everyonce in a while something out of the ordinary like Haruhi comes along, ala a bit of everything rolled into a lovely combo of favorites.

And Rosario ala Ikkitousen are the kind where so much fan service is present I become numb to it and become exceptionally bored.

I thnk that they need more that just a Moe girl to sell an anime title. They need to go back to there roots to some of stuff from the 1990's.

That is nonsence ,They have substance ! its just that there just showing too much ecchi which of course I like ^^.To love Ru is the best I like Sarenji the best MOOOEEEEEEEE

i thought that zero no tsukihima (the familiar of zero) had substance well u need to get to season 2 and 3 to get it but season 1 was great in my opinion cus all i had to do was turn off my brain and laugh. also in my opinion the exicution of moe is crucial like in alfen lied lots of moe fan serv but it had ALOT of substance, the manga mad me cry. also air TV/MOVIE again lots of moe no fan serv but it had substance

i get bored watching anime with too much fan serv im like ive seen this *falling on top of girl* so many times already or *girl falls he grabs boobs trying to catch her* seen it so many times. i want them to try something new for a change and if i dont get hooked watching the opening most of the time i dont get past the 1st or 3rd episode.

oh i found this really great anime with lots of substance it is called tweeeny witches (american version) (dubbed is impossible to find but it is) better name is magical girl squad alice . some moe, some. the moe in this anime is excusable come on were r talking about a little girl well well alot of girls. u r just gonna have to trust me the moe isnt outta place and well it doesnt add to the story but it isnt like moe moe moe it is more like every now and then some comic relife. cus the anime get very siriouse but at the same time it isnt as surious as code geass.

(im sorry im not good at typing and i dont do this kind of thing often)

but it is still great nonetheless something ud expect from 4C (they pretty much every anime ive seen from then (2) is very good) they dont make much anime they normaly make AMVs not fan made but they animate it them selves and not use many different anime

for me moe has to be done in a certain way if i am to like it. like great story the loe doesnt really add to it nor take focus away from it sorta like if it get sirious like really alot then it can be appropriate but from something ude expect moe from ie a little girl not some teenager well that also depends i actually like chobits witch was well 100% moe but come on how can u not fall in love with chi ( i think that is her name)and well nyu i understood why nyu was nyu (elfen lied) she was what lucy wanted to be what she couldnt be.

well what everything boils down to is what everyones taste is i dont like tooo much moe but a little is fime by me

There can never be enough MOE XD