JASRAC

Wow… I thought it was only the American music industry who did not “get it.”
For me, and everyone I know, the internet helps expand my music experience. I am exposed to a lot more types of music on the internet than on radio (music on commercial radio in the US has been dead to me for the past 10 years!). When you are exposed to this new music, and like it, you will more likely want to purchase it… isn’t that better than nobody hearing it and have zero sales?
Now, the same would go for lyrics… somebody tweets a lyric… you wonder where it came from… look it up… listen to the song… like it… buy it.
What the hell is wrong with these people!

I had the same thing happen to me on YouTube ^^;;

I posted the textless opening / closing for Witchblade anime and got notice that Funimation filed claim. Slammed up some ads and restricted the video so it won't play outside of Funimation's license territory ^^;;

... From being stupid to being downright ridiculous, IP sure has taken a ugly turn for the worse.

Guh, seriously? First off, you can't possibly fit a significant portion of a song's lyrics in a 140 character tweet, IMO. Second off, like SlickDog said above, if you like the lyrics, it'll just encourage you to check out the song and maybe, perhaps, purchase it.
Seriously, this seems like nothing more than a desperate money grab. -.-
That being said, unless I'm mistaken, I don't think Japan has "fair use" actually codified in law like the U.S. does. (Note: I'm not saying whether quoting lyrics in a tweet is "fair use" or not, just that the legal concept of such may not exist in Japanese law.)

Agora tudo que vamos ouvir tem que ser comprado? Sacanagem isso! Se eu fazer um cover de uma música que eu gosto eu estou tentando ganhar publicidade com ela? Inacreditável!

Pretty much the same here in Italy with SIAE (our JASRAC), though I did not yet have any problems with music and internet, but I did have a few with "real" issues. They would probably make you pay some kind of fee for listening to music outside without earphones and whatnot :(
As for music and the internet, well... I probably wouldnt know any of the awesome groups I know right now, because the only way I had before the internet to get to know new music was MTV, and well, they had a pretty small circle of genres :x

In short, JASRAC is the American equivalent of America's MPIAA?

Extreme enforcers like this frighten me.

I agree that artists content should be protected, but I think the levels that people like this go to are incredibly extreme. Can't disagree that it is needed though. If a lot of users had there way, things would get out of hand. Of course if these companies had their way, that would be out of hand as well. I guess you can chalk it down to a Yin Yang kind of thang! (ha!)

The only thing I have had to deal with on this, is I often will embed Anime Openings and Endings on my blog from other youtube users, only to find half of them have been removed because of this sort of thing.

It's a darn shame because it's exactly as SlickDog says. Seeing such stuff on the net is exposure, and exposure sells if the people like it and are willing to spend money on it. I guess it could work in reverse though too...

Couple of minor problems.
Made a lame video documentary of an anime event in Brazil and slapped several anime music through it.
Removed by copyright infringement on the music.
Recently, I made a video parody (think YouTube poop and similar) of a video from ICanHasCheezburger, to post as video reply.
The video was also removed for copyright infringement.

I must also add that hardcoded on the video, explained on the description of the videos, and even added on annotations, from the beginning, I wrote all the credits. Never claimed anything was mine other than the editing.

It's their right to ask to remove it anyways, but as I see, they only have to loose from that. I was only trying to show my appreciation. Needless to say I'll never waste my time making another parody of ICanHasCheezburger content. In fact, I stopped visiting their website, contributing to their content and recommending it to friends.

Fortunately, there are plenty of creative blogs and websites that won't send the dogs after you should you ever try to use their content to tell others how much you like it.

How does tweeting them differ from having lyrics as a status on msn/facebook/wherever, or even singing along to a tune where someone might hear you? Or have they banned that too? o_0
Seems like employment in the modern music industry requires one be clinically insane...

The copyright protectors can limit only so much.. Sure, pull out a popular music video, it won't be long until a few more pops up. Pull out a popular picture, won't be long until someone requests it to be uploaded somewhere else. And with torrents they will never achieve any more than causing few inconveniences. Copyright protectors are only humans, whereas the internet has grown similar to a god.

I remember uploading a few AMVs on YouTube back in 2006. My Naruto AMV almost reached 300k views before it got pulled. :(

I don't make videos so haven't experienced that. The DC Dancing Trooper videos are Great!! But in light of this if I were you before I went to sleep I would try quickly to get permission in some way from the record companies that are in Japan at least for the ones you have so we can continue to see them in the future. This isn't advice its just a feeling. If they got recognition that you have used them and notified Youtube ect, that just means other things are in the works I believe - could be wrong - but business is business.

I sure hope it all works out ok for DC.

As for the Tweets and Facebook like things, again I don't use them or even read actors - racecar drivers ect. pages I am interested in as I don't have time to make space for it.
Best of luck.

The way they treat individuals these days with copyright infringement penalties, you'd think they're attacking other corporations, not fans expressing interest or love of a product, nor seeing their vital contribution to word-of-mouth (or keystroke) advertising on behalf of a cool idea. I think --knowing full well that I have little to no stake in the matter-- that these laws should be adjusted to reflect the scale of the threat of damage to the plaintiff. Such extreme measures really only seem geared to protect the property of firms, corporations or studios from other alike entities----and since that's the origin of the threat to begin with, then they should concentrate their firepower on the targets that matter, rather than future customers.

This is crazy! Now I'm even more weary of continuing to make singing covers of Japanese songs. I hope your dancing trooper videos won't be affected at all.

I've been hearing how JASRAC is notorious for rights and all that. I had little different experience regarding to the right issue when I tried to sell some Harry Potter doujinshi on ebay. My auction was taken down immediately and I got an email from Warner Bros department asking if the item I was selling was official Harry Potter product. I never bother to sell movie related doujinshi ever again afterward ^^;

If I didn't stumble onto some songs and did research on the artist, then that's just one less customer for them...

Heheh, I heard about JASRAC from Hayate X Blade. Interesting what I learn from manga. I wonder if they'll slap on that sort of thing on my video. They sure don't have too much things to do if they go through youtube just to stop some of the audio there... I mean there are TONS of videos there!

Well, JASRAC is just doing its job, or else their staff had all better close shop and return home to the family farm. I think they need to embrace the concept of Fair Use of intellectual properties. DannyChoo website posts are member-restricted, are they not ? It's not a mass public party going on here, is it ? A big party, yes, but registration still required. Can't stop others from forwarding material without permission, though. Tricky.

hmm... didn't you used to use some Pizzicato 5 songs on your old videos. ^^; guess they thought they'd make better money slapping ads on your video than taking it down. ^^;

I used to have a online radio last year, and was paying jasrac every month for the music.
But one day, I received a call from universal music, telling me that I have to pay to broadcast their music.. even If I was allready paying Jasrac!

So I had to pay Jasrac every month + pay each music to universal, sony,...

So I stopped the online radio! ^^

On youtube I got some message telling me that I am using a music without the authorisation, but nothing was ask to do.. they just put some ads on the video!

BUT I had all the right on the music because I created the music my self.. it took me 1 month to get the ads removed..if you send a message to youtube, you got no respond.. I had to contact the compagnie that claim the right on my music, tell them, it is a mistake,... than after 1 month the ads disapear..

So you get charged by this organization when you upload an AMV in youtube or sing one of their songs in an Anime convention?

Right on~~ Wish them luck in alienating fans and potential customers alike :)

What if one to re-upload a PV? Would companies have qualms about that?
I understand protection of their own property and acknowledge it. Have to look at it from the perspective of the IP holders, when content made to entertain and generate money is being stolen for only the entertain part these companies are not going to be happy people. Especially in public companies where they have a DUTY to benefit their shareholders, I believe that if they don't it's a legal issue.

A fee for tweeting lyrics of a song? That's just going a little overboard...

Hmm? Fee for tweeting lyrics? Quite silly.

I saw many Youtube videos being muted and pulled by WMG. These actions caused many people to rage and even go as far as to boycott anything WMG related....I had a message once and felt like quickly swapping the music track with a more unfitting trance one on one of my HD Video tests in fear that my video would be muted.

This is quite entertaining as both the music and gaming industry are trying to crack down on piracy. Silent Hunter 5 forces players to play on Ubisoft's gaming server and if they D/C from that server you'd have to start from where you last D/C'ed.

I can understand the misuse of intellectual properties in regards to piracy, but charging for using it as background music for things like home videos and in public places like restaurants, and even just posting lyrics, might be taking it a little far.

Videos I can understand... but lyrics?!? Seriously?! Thats just.... one step too far... its just words after all... that'd be like McDonalds charging us for saying 'I'm Lovin' it' or any company charging for us using their branding... oi.....whats the world coming too...

This is downright ridiculous.. lyrics? I mean seriously? What are they thinking?

Just wait, next will be itunes charging 10 cents every time we play a 30 second clip before we make a song purchase...

o.O

The same thing here in Germany.
Here it´s known as "GEMA"

Ugh, I hate that stuff. They had a similar thing going on here where people even with very small companies had to pay like €1000 a year to play some music for their staff -____-

I understand that music artists and studios have some rights but these days they're taking it too far. As long as no moneys are being made off a song by any other than the artist, they shouldn't whine.

Oh my god ! Internet in japan seems to be a strange thing I now understand why japanese people censor themselves on the net. According to international law, I'm sure that tweeting a sentence from a song isn't a crime (140 crs isn't that much). But I think you'd better keep secret your thinking about that. Othervise TV and Media compagny will stop working with you and will say that you are an evil pirat ^^.

and who knows, ...maybe next time, illustrators and authors will also charge you for making fanarts & fanfics.. 0_0

Who's butt hatch idea was it to do that? Obviously they're a couple of brain cells short of a pair. Almost seems reminiscent of the book 1984. Big Brother is watching us!

What? >.>

I'll probably be screwed upside down after such a regulation. >_<

Pay or not to pay...guess we just have to be careful about using music these days....

How do they expect to sell anything outside of japan if you can't get a chance to hear about it. Every single japanese c.d. I have bought was because I listened to one of their songs online. If it wasn't for free anime and music I wouldn't know a single thing about japan and it's amazing culture that I'm sure we have all grown to love.

wow, you hear his load of horse#%^ from JASRAC (and I would bet the usually-more-crooked US music industry to follow in their footsteps), yet you have artists like Black Eyed Peas doing a suprise and FREE concert in NYC right now. EXPOSURE of content creates sales, epically in today's internet age. Create a worthy track that gets virally spread and watch artist mint millions of $ (billions of yen) As long as the fair-use clause is being upheld and the 3rd party/fan aren't making $ from it, than JASRAC and anybody else dumb enough to shoot themselves in the foot like this need to shut up already and let what sells, sells.

Uploading lyrics illegal?! What the heck is wrong with that?! This is ridiculous. I understand that uploading the actual song is not really a right thing to do, but I doubt the sales would go up if Internet uploading was eradicated.

Bwuahahahahaha! JASRAC is all the big scary thing to be afraid of on the internets.

most of the foreign music (japanese above all) that i had descovered is thanks to internet and its possibility. It give me the possibility, every day, to listen a lot of music that in my country it would be impossible to find. i think that uploading music to help people to know and find new groups and singers should be free and completly legal. It helps us, and helps music.

I got the same email from Youtube that the material I uploaded was owned by Atlus, but instead of taking it down, they just puts ads up on the page to generate some $$$. The video was of Fuuka with her swimwear from Persona 3.

Leo Laporte says it best: The music industry states flatly that we're all pirates. Guilty until proven innocent. So since we're all being accused of it, we might as well do it to justify the accusation. All I can say is in another 20 years when the fat pigs in their ivory towers and plush corner offices have finally croaked, there will finally be execs in charge that just "get it".

yep have experience with jasrac too got one of my youtube acc. taken down well my fault too back then, was an anime uploader
but hey im not anymore!

lol, I don't give a damn if JASRAC tries to make my youtube thing all uploaded with alot of things, my response to that is... *coughs and shakes Japan as how you would shake diamonds from rough stuff* and... *shows a picture of JASRAC and then eats it* They're all mad because they want to blow their money on expensive cigars and their suits which tear out on 4 days and their cheap girlfriends. I guess they never seen a demon cow with a rocket engine for a rear end and having 2 miniguns for horns.

. From being stupid to being downright ridiculous, IP sure has taken a ugly turn for the worse.