NDS Backup

Tue 2009/10/06 10:49 JST
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Aoi-chan having a few rounds of Love Plus. Was suprised to hear many of my female comrades love the game too - any of you playing?

In the past, Nintendo has tried many times to crack down on companies that make backup devices for the Nintendo DS - the devices known as "Majikon" [マジコン] in Japanese.

Nintendo released a statement yesterday outlining how they have tried for the past two years to get rid of these device makers/sellers. What Nintendo done was to mainly send a bunch of warnings which got soaked in water, swallowed and dumped with the rest of the undigested corn and spinach.

Apart from saying that they are now going to actually sue these sellers, Nintendo have also taken a new strategy to try and get the public to report sellers flogging these devices.
Nintendo have set up a form which you can use to grass on sellers on and offline - would you if you spotted one?

Walk into any convenient store in Japan and more often than not, you will see mags published with the specific purpose of teaching folks how to use/where to buy and where to download roms for these devices.

Get along to Amazon and you will see such a publication. Have a look at the related items and you will see a ton more.
Have a feeling that these publishers are going to have to go a few rounds in the ring with Nintendo.

I was rather surprised when I saw them in the convenience stores/book shops. Inside there would be links to a load of sites on where to download roms and where to buy the devices.
Do they have books like this in your neck of the woods?

An article by Brian at Kotaku notes how folks using these backup devices range from female students to businessmen.

Via HImasoku.

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  • Heavy
    Heavy in Georgia U.S.A. (Registered on 2009/07/02)
    Exploring worlds and ways of thought

    I see also googling around that these modchips are being sold in vending machines. Which reminds me of a post a while back about what kind of vending machines would you make or stuff sold. If your backing up games you own, then yes. If doing copies for profit without consent then no, I would go into the whole good side bad side thing but don't want to write an entire page on it....Well not now anyway.

    Tue 2009/10/06 11:14:08 JST (ID #727049)
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  • F
    F in Vancouver (Registered on 2009/04/10)
    Starving writer

    B-b-b-but the PSP is so wonderful when hacked. ;_; Honestly, if cfw never existed, I would never have gotten a PSP.

    So on one hand, they make a hardware sale but no games. On the other hand, they sell neither. Obviously the former is slightly better, but I guess it's still a catch-22.

    Tue 2009/10/06 11:36:27 JST (ID #727065)
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  • memoriesoffaddict
    memoriesoffaddict in CA (Registered on 2008/10/30)
    University Student

    Those mags must be a joke. You can get the same results by just googling around for a bit if you are new to the device. No need to waste money on such things when Google is free.

    Tue 2009/10/06 11:43:57 JST (ID #727067)
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    • Phalon
      Phalon in South Dakota (Registered on 2008/04/13)
      Student / Software Engineer

      some people are too lazy to Google.

      Tue 2009/10/06 11:48:32 JST (ID #727070)
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    • Yaku
      Yaku in Chinatown, Los Angeles, USA (Registered on 2008/08/27)
      Student, part-time slave
      http://yakuri.wordpress.com/

      Some people aren't computer-literate and still need the source in a magazine. There's nothing wrong with it; some people still buy the newspaper even though there are many free online versions.

      Tue 2009/10/06 12:22:04 JST (ID #727082)
      reply to Yaku's comment
      • Heavy
        Heavy in Georgia U.S.A. (Registered on 2009/07/02)
        Exploring worlds and ways of thought

        That's right, es right.

        Tue 2009/10/06 12:41:28 JST (ID #727092)
        reply to Heavy's comment
      • TaRzAn
        TaRzAn in Just Below The Equator (Registered on 2009/05/25)
        Blue Suit Sapien with White Helmet
        http://conrad501.wordpress.com/

        heheheheh, someone once asked me why the heck am i still buying newspapers from the news stands when i can read it online for free??? And i said "well kid i'm a little old fashion and holding a newspaper in hand looks more cool than holding a mouse in front of a pc"..... :P

        Tue 2009/10/06 23:46:34 JST (ID #727285)
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        • Yaku
          Yaku in Chinatown, Los Angeles, USA (Registered on 2008/08/27)
          Student, part-time slave
          http://yakuri.wordpress.com/

          Holy smoke, it DOES look cooler!!! O_o

          Fri 2009/10/09 16:40:17 JST (ID #728367)
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  • silent1134
    silent1134 in Los Angeles, California (Registered on 2007/08/22)
    ???Confused???

    Wow these guys are like deliberately putting targets on their backs...

    Tue 2009/10/06 11:44:05 JST (ID #727068)
    reply to silent1134's comment
  • coffeebugg
    coffeebugg in coherently lucid (Registered on 2008/05/22)
    Otari Vader, Sith Lord for Hire, will fillet Makoto Itou for free
    http://coffeebugg.blogspot.com/

    What do we, the consumers, get in exchange for ratting out on these sellers and developers of Majikon?

    Personally, though these custom firmware developers only aim to make games more easily available to the masses, they are in fact putting them and the very consoles they "hack" out of business. While I definitely would want to be thrifty with the games I like, I still want to look forward to future releases.

    Would I want to report them? What's in it for me? =P

    Tue 2009/10/06 11:51:16 JST (ID #727071)
    reply to coffeebugg's comment
  • the great paul
    the great paul in heaven (Registered on 2008/03/14)
    pervert

    if there is a reward then i dont mind ratting on someone but if there isnt then i will just have to blackmail the guy selling it

    Tue 2009/10/06 11:51:49 JST (ID #727072)
    reply to the great paul's comment
  • Shear
    Shear in Massachusetts (Registered on 2009/05/25)
    Student
    http://otakumytaku.wordpress.com/

    Backup devices for the DS? I haven't really encountered such a thing before, but I don't really think that I'd bother to report sellers. I doubt I'd be up to the task of performing a free service to the Nintendo corporation out of good faith all that often.

    Tue 2009/10/06 11:57:11 JST (ID #727073)
    reply to Shear's comment
  • Arayden KOGs
    Arayden KOGs in 虚空 (Registered on 2009/02/06)

    If Nintendo's not to bother making their games at least compatible with different regions ( and eliminate the need to get a additional WII/DS ) , i don't see why i have to be bothered. Afterall, who won't be aware of the risks and be willing to void their warranties?

    So what if Nintendo is trying to have stringent anti-piracy strategies?

    Tue 2009/10/06 12:01:04 JST (ID #727074)
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    • DARKWiNGS6
      DARKWiNGS6 in UK (Registered on 2009/04/06)
      Student

      I'm not 100%, but I think the DS games are all region free. Which is probably why they can have such a good case against these products. I bought mine from Amazon over a year ago before they removed them all...

      Wed 2009/10/07 00:07:49 JST (ID #727288)
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  • パンダP
    パンダP (Registered on 2009/10/01)

    This is a huge problem for the game industry. It should be stopped as soon as possible. Then again, they should release products that aren't so easy to hack. The PSP was hacked within months of it's original release. They should pay a bunch of hackers to try and crack these things like apple is now paying the kid who hacked the iPhone in a week to test their products.

    Tue 2009/10/06 12:05:02 JST (ID #727075)
    reply to パンダP's comment
  • JOWhite
    JOWhite in USA (Registered on 2008/09/25)
    Meteorologist

    this is redundant when i first got my first PSP cause i wanted to hack it and add homebrew apps like an internet radio but with version 2.8 ( i believe) Internet Radio was added to the PSP. lol

    Tue 2009/10/06 12:10:07 JST (ID #727076)
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    • JOWhite
      JOWhite in USA (Registered on 2008/09/25)
      Meteorologist

      keyword: i WANTED to hack it but i never did. i tuck with official firmware and always have. i'd hate risking bricking new expensive devices

      Tue 2009/10/06 12:11:40 JST (ID #727078)
      reply to JOWhite's comment
  • yamada
    yamada in Belait District, Brunei Darussalam (Registered on 2009/02/04)
    studying comp studies, planning to look for part time job
    http://bruneian-otaku.blogspot.com

    We can hack on PSP/DS? D:

    Tue 2009/10/06 12:10:53 JST (ID #727077)
    reply to yamada's comment
  • i'm mr. danger
    i'm mr. danger in Florida (Registered on 2007/08/17)
    student , otaku and awesome blogger
    http://otakudan.com

    if a magazine was sold in the U.S. with a how to hack guide line, they would be sued is the matter of minutes. Nintendo has been fighting hard against people who hack their wii, Nintendo recently released a firmware that would kill any wii that has been hacked. the down point to that is that the new firmware is also killing some wiis that have not been hacked.

    Tue 2009/10/06 12:12:18 JST (ID #727079)
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  • Moemoekyun
    Moemoekyun in otakukingdom (Registered on 2009/07/18)
    http://moemoekyun.wordpress.com

    don't have handled games PSP or DS >_< poor me

    Tue 2009/10/06 12:22:27 JST (ID #727083)
    reply to Moemoekyun's comment
  • Yaku
    Yaku in Chinatown, Los Angeles, USA (Registered on 2008/08/27)
    Student, part-time slave
    http://yakuri.wordpress.com/

    This is a neverending struggle with not only game consoles, but any other device as well. It will never be resolved; it'll just get extended with each new console and new firmware.

    Personally I really like the fact I can do other things with the machines I buy. I never sold my gadgets since I use them until they fall apart in pieces, so I might as well take advantage of their capabilities to the max.

    Tue 2009/10/06 12:25:10 JST (ID #727085)
    reply to Yaku's comment
  • thammuz
    thammuz in Pittsburgh (Registered on 2008/01/29)
    COMPENG/SWENG Student
    http://ryan2006.deviantart.com

    I have seen similar items for more popular devices around my neck of the woods... Granted I haven't been in a book store for quite some time.

    Tue 2009/10/06 12:58:39 JST (ID #727099)
    reply to thammuz's comment
  • a_P
    a_P in San diego (Registered on 2009/10/05)
    Game test analyst, Wota

    I agree with yaku.There are Pros and cons in being able to personalize your consoles/handheld. I think that as long as some people are not satisfied with what they get in their gadgets that this battle will never end. Taking matters to court will just compensate some wounds but will not heal it.It will just cause the "haxing" industry to go more underground.

    On the other note, I think that console makers shouldnt solely try to eliminate these problems. It is also up to game developers and publishers to start stepping up.

    Tue 2009/10/06 13:08:32 JST (ID #727101)
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  • Bakkou
    Bakkou in Australia (Registered on 2009/04/01)
    Student

    I've never bothered to hack my psp or DSi, well it was because I was worried I would brick my psp and that I only just recently bought a DSi.

    Tue 2009/10/06 13:37:54 JST (ID #727116)
    reply to Bakkou's comment
  • WiseFreeman
    WiseFreeman in DC Cloning Laboratory (Registered on 2007/11/07)
    Dance Trooper: DCX-001 O.D.E. (Order of the Dancing Empire)
    http://dannychoo.com.my

    Now, what's the reward for busting those merchants?

    Tue 2009/10/06 13:55:47 JST (ID #727124)
    reply to WiseFreeman's comment
  • suki
    suki in Cape Town, South Africa (Registered on 2007/08/22)
    Graphic Design student | Receptionist | Otaku
    http://sukidesho.blogspot.com/

    ^^; Sad to say that I want to be able to hack my PSP/ DS when I get them TwT But, at the same time I consider not to XD;;;

    Tue 2009/10/06 15:18:12 JST (ID #727147)
    reply to suki's comment
  • Cyberchaos
    Cyberchaos in Australia, Sydney (Registered on 2008/02/17)
    NEET part-time - Technical Support Officer - Network security engineer
    http://burugureibi.blogspot.com/

    GAH!!!
    i really want a DSi now... - but i can't really justify the purchase

    Tue 2009/10/06 16:01:19 JST (ID #727169)
    reply to Cyberchaos's comment
  • Meimi132
    Meimi132 in Stuck in the void between the net life and real life. (Registered on 2007/12/03)
    Student, Otaku, She-Geek(Sheek lol)
    http://meimi132.wordpress.com/

    WANTS IT! Not like they'll ever make an english version though... which sucks. But its not like I thought it would.......

    Tue 2009/10/06 16:26:00 JST (ID #727174)
    reply to Meimi132's comment
  • Akiba-Kid
    Akiba-Kid in California, USA (Registered on 2008/01/17)
    Online Shop
    http://wildarms.egloos.com

    I heard about Nintendo doing what's described above but I did not realize that Japanese convenience store sold above mentioned books :P Well, I only go to convenience stores to buy drinks and leave fast and never bothered to check out the book sections but it is indeed surprising.

    Tue 2009/10/06 18:18:12 JST (ID #727196)
    reply to Akiba-Kid's comment
  • Patti
    Patti in Sydney, Australia (Registered on 2009/04/27)
    Time Traveller/High School Student
    http://thetsundere.wordpress.com/

    WOw you know females who play this game? Would like to try out this game myself, but thought it might look weird for a gal to be playing it! LOL
    maybe someday... if they release it in english... which is likely never xP oh well! I'll just have to learn more Japanese! ^^

    Tue 2009/10/06 18:55:01 JST (ID #727202)
    reply to Patti's comment
  • gordon
    gordon in 新加坡 Singapore (Registered on 2007/06/11)
    銀河帝国五〇一軍团 TK/TD 8316 M.E.P.D. Police Sergeant
    http://gordonator.com/

    majority of PSPs here are modded. ('~')

    Tue 2009/10/06 20:23:44 JST (ID #727222)
    reply to gordon's comment
  • uncreative
    uncreative in Japan (Registered on 2008/08/15)
    Student
    http://www.flickr.com/photos/dramacd/

    Nintendo is dumb. It's perfectly legal to buy and use one of these cards. The problem starts from people downloading games instead of paying for them.

    Tue 2009/10/06 22:05:05 JST (ID #727249)
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  • M07Marauder
    M07Marauder in Richland Hills, Texas (Registered on 2009/08/03)
    Prop Armor Craftsman :D

    Personally I think everything would be better open source.

    I don't really like buying anything unless I am able to customize it.

    Tue 2009/10/06 22:05:37 JST (ID #727250)
    reply to M07Marauder's comment
    • oweneck
      oweneck (Registered on 2008/10/10)
      Graphics Designer

      I agree, how would you feel if you bought a house and you weren't allow to upgrade, modify or even change the look of it?

      If you buy the hardware, you should be allowed to modify and do whatever you want with it, however stealing software and other games though, I don't agree with.

      Tue 2009/10/06 23:45:53 JST (ID #727284)
      reply to oweneck's comment
  • helpmeplz
    helpmeplz in London (Registered on 2009/05/12)
    student
    http://www.nintendokid.wordpress.com

    damm,my r4i has been blocked due to 1.4,and now i cant carry all games at once

    Wed 2009/10/07 00:46:57 JST (ID #727300)
    reply to helpmeplz's comment
  • silentkey
    silentkey in Singapore (Registered on 2008/01/24)
    Student, Uncle & hopfully a good husband..

    Wow...encouraging piracy openly...that's a first...

    Wed 2009/10/07 01:46:57 JST (ID #727311)
    reply to silentkey's comment
  • thebarrett
    thebarrett in California 死の金魚 (Registered on 2008/12/03)
    Gundam Pilot (in training)
    http://www.youtube.com/user/Thebarrett

    they can try their hardest... but the harder they make it to hack, the more hackers will want to hack it.. i won't turn anyone in sorry o_o they can do that work on their own, let them pay some schmuck to do it... its a waste of my time to help them, most people don't pirate their video games anyway, they get lots of money from strait laced people... I'll say this, people are tired of paying $70 USD for a video game, seeing as you can take 1 $70 game and duplicate it thousands of times so only 1 game costs money to make then it only costs them for the disk..

    they can afford to drop the prices but they won't because rich people buy them... they act like its hard to make a video game, these days its something that can easily be done on a home computer. they can't continue hiding their tyrant like behavior, sure in 1980 to 2000 games like the ones we have on the market would sell for $70, but its almost 2010 now and hardware and software is easier to get, 800GB of HD space is a normal thing... quad core processors, 8GB of RAM, and computers with this stuff can be bought for like $3000 >_>

    if you piece it all together you start to see the big picture, I'm not saying its good to pirate but they should know that as time goes by and prices keep going up, people are going to use more reasonable ways of obtaining games. by over pricing games they only hurt them selves in the long run, people will feel less inclined to pirate games if the prices were affordable.

    Wed 2009/10/07 02:30:38 JST (ID #727318)
    reply to thebarrett's comment
  • FMPhoenixHawk
    FMPhoenixHawk in Michigan, USA (Registered on 2008/01/20)
    Scientist, unemployed.
    http://fmphoenixhawk.livejournal.com

    Though the hack units are an interesting idea, they ultimately cause more harm than good. I've heard several stories about units getting bricked. I guess, because I don't get that many portable games, it's not as important for me. What I want is a way to legally make backups of my PlayStation games. (Which, if you do here, will get you massive fines, thanks to the DMCA. If they were on tape, whole different story.)

    Wed 2009/10/07 04:35:48 JST (ID #727347)
    reply to FMPhoenixHawk's comment
  • DarkWaveSurfer
    DarkWaveSurfer in Tokyo or Seattle (Registered on 2007/03/11)
    code monkey

    If this is what people are doing with their devices then somebody should get a clue and make a device that actually does what consumers want. People want Sony and Nintendo's portable devices and games, but they don't want to be pigeon holed into their restrictive services and software that waste the potential of their hardware. It's no wonder smartphones, which are horrible platforms for gaming, have been getting so much attention as gaming platforms.

    Wed 2009/10/07 05:16:13 JST (ID #727357)
    reply to DarkWaveSurfer's comment
  • Xcomp
    Xcomp in UK, Glasgow (Registered on 2008/12/01)
    http://xcomprandomness.co.uk/

    I spotted those "how to hack your console" magazines in Seven Eleven stores and bookshops in HK - Translated Chinese versions probably. I was a bit surprised too considering how they've been trying to clamp down on the Majikon devices in the smaller computer game shops.

    Wed 2009/10/07 08:50:52 JST (ID #727417)
    reply to Xcomp's comment
  • Alexeon
    Alexeon in California (Registered on 2008/06/09)
    Lazyman Extraordinaire
    http://theeternalcube.blogspot.com/

    I wish. It would make looking this stuff up so much easier... err, I mean, thats horrible! Yeah, horrible!


    -orders mags-


    Nah, who needs magazines when you have the interwebs?

    Wed 2009/10/07 09:21:21 JST (ID #727436)
    reply to Alexeon's comment
  • Kodama
    Kodama in Ottawa, Canada (Registered on 2009/03/28)
    Laptop Tech

    I like to use the car analogy. If I buy a car, then it is *MINE*! I will do with it as I so chose. Now if I want to make changes to the car, I'll concede the maker has the right to void the warranty. I might even go as far as allow that they can refuse to service it if I make a big enough change. But there are after market parts dealers all over the world willing and able to (legally) sell me those parts. If I put a nitro tank and a blower on my car and it's illegal to have these thing on a street car, then the cops will be pulling me over. Thats expected. If I only take it to a track on the back of a trailer, thats another story.
    The console makers seem to think that they have a say in what I do with MY property. If I break the law with such mods, there is existing copyright law (here at least) to deal with that. My take is if I want a function that the maker does not provide, It's my option to add it. (same deal as per warranties apply as above) I find this whole arms race thing a waste of time for makers, and may in the long term hurt sales. If they were smart, the console makers would look at the more popular add-ons that people are getting, and build in those features with the next iteration of the hardware. Micro-squish had a DRM wrapper that was supposed get added to non-DRM'd content if you loaded it onto a Zune. If this is still case, then that piece of hardware will never open my wallet.

    Wed 2009/10/07 10:22:26 JST (ID #727461)
    reply to Kodama's comment
  • Reltair
    Reltair in California, United States (Registered on 2009/06/13)
    College Student, Computer Science Major
    http://www.projectsaber.com

    I would so play Love Plus if my Japanese was better.

    Wed 2009/10/07 11:12:08 JST (ID #727482)
    reply to Reltair's comment
  • Gabusaki
    Gabusaki (Registered on 2008/10/20)
    http://www.youtube.com/user/Gabusaki

    Yeah, I've been thinking about getting Love Plus. I mean it looks good. I don't see why not...

    Wed 2009/10/07 11:50:01 JST (ID #727510)
    reply to Gabusaki's comment
  • yueki
    yueki in NYC (Registered on 2008/12/11)
    Graphic Designer

    Magazines like that would never fly in the US, land of anything can be sued.

    Wed 2009/10/07 13:16:05 JST (ID #727551)
    reply to yueki's comment
  • Y10NRDY
    Y10NRDY in USA (Registered on 2009/06/04)
    Comic Shop Owner

    we should be allowed to do whatever we want with tech we purchase HOWEVER...

    if we don't ever buy stuff then the companies will stop developing good stuff to play. so we need to have a conscience with whatever we do. which is naive as hell.

    ...and there you have it. a barrel roll.

    Wed 2009/10/07 13:26:30 JST (ID #727562)
    reply to Y10NRDY's comment
    • thebarrett
      thebarrett in California 死の金魚 (Registered on 2008/12/03)
      Gundam Pilot (in training)
      http://www.youtube.com/user/Thebarrett

      companies make good games because they want money. saying they are gonna stop trying to make money just because people pirate games is wrong... like i said in my above comment they over charge for the games they create, obviously if people stopped buying their overly priced stuff it would force them to make sales and actually start working HARD at selling their stuff, instead of just selling stuff at high prices because people have no cheaper alternative and have to buy it for whatever price they charge..

      Fri 2009/10/09 13:23:06 JST (ID #728308)
      reply to thebarrett's comment
  • crabdude
    crabdude in Switzerland (Registered on 2008/09/20)
    Student

    personally, I like to buy the games. I don't mind paying for them if it means that producers will be encouraged to make even better ones.

    Sat 2009/10/10 00:16:58 JST (ID #728520)
    reply to crabdude's comment

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