Windows 7 Japan

Fri 2009/09/25 22:40 JST
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Taken this afternoon at the Bic Camera store in Shibuya. A shop assistant tells folks how they will get some exclusive pre-order goodies if they order their copy of Windows 7 now - the goodies being some Windows and 7UP YoYo's...
Have any of you been playing about with the beta versions? Planning on upgrading or sticking with Vista or XP?

Me was a Windows user since Windows 95 and switched to Mac in 2005. Before being a Mac user, I used to wonder what on earth could one do on a Mac apart from browse the Internets and check mail. Most of my staff at Amazon used a Mac and I remember saying to them "wheres the floppy drive?" ^^;
I also used to think that Macs didn't have any software. While Windows users have the choice of zillions of FTP apps, Macs have only a handful. But coming to think of it - its the quality over quantity that counts and a handful is all thats needed. In this case I use Transmit which is an excellent FTP app that supports Amazon S3 and what have you.

Without Windows however, I don't think I would be in the line of work I'm currently in. It was thanks to the self studying of Windows, partitioning FDisk, MBR and wot not that got me the qualifications I needed to Join Japan Airlines as a computer Engineer.
Without JAL, I would not have got into Nature doing Web Marketing in Tokyo and without that no Amazon etc.

Things I don't miss about Windows is having to wipe my current working copy of Windows and recover a clone that I took of a clean installation with my regular apps. I used Drive Image for a while before using Norton Ghost.

Things I do miss about Windows is Explorer - no not IE! I found the file management properties of Windows far superior (and still is) over Macs Finder.
For example, in Windows I get a thumbnailed preview of whats inside a folder - such a simple thing that would increase my productivity on a Mac.

Also, with Finder, when browsing for folders in the Save or Open dialog, I cant sort by date or type which is annoying as hell!
What gets on your nut and what do you enjoy about the current operating system you use?

After using Macs for few years, I find that I generally get things done quicker and as the system is Unix based, the environment is closer to the environment of our servers which run dannychoo.com, figure.fm and soon japannow.fm and manga.fm. Having a similar environment is important for development purposes for example - I had a load of encoding issues when using Apache with PHP on Windows.

At the end of the day however, its not a case of which operating is better than the other but giving various systems a whirl to see which fits or work style needs is recommended.

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  • uncreative
    uncreative in Japan (Registered on 2008/08/15)
    Student
    http://www.flickr.com/photos/dramacd/

    I just heard about this. The premium set comes with system sounds voiced by Mizuki Nana! I also heard that only 7,777 preorders would be taken. This would be a definite buy if I couldn't eventually get the sounds for free.

    Fri 2009/09/25 23:07:13 JST (ID #722587)
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    • etherlite
      etherlite in Jakarta, Indonesia (Registered on 2007/12/06)
      Medical School Student

      are you serious? i'd definitely buy it!!!

      Sat 2009/09/26 00:45:46 JST (ID #722643)
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      • uncreative
        uncreative in Japan (Registered on 2008/08/15)
        Student
        http://www.flickr.com/photos/dramacd/

        It's the Windows 7 Ultimate Premium set, Japan only. Unfortunately, I think it's sold out...

        Sat 2009/09/26 01:43:49 JST (ID #722663)
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        • etherlite
          etherlite in Jakarta, Indonesia (Registered on 2007/12/06)
          Medical School Student

          i read somewhere that if you preorder it, you'll get a chance to do a kuji (japanese lottery, the one which you roll that thing and a ball will come out)

          i already asked my friend to find out more about it in akiba tomorrow, well, the chances are low

          Sat 2009/09/26 04:40:04 JST (ID #722713)
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        • ふぇんりる
          ふぇんりる in 日本の関東 (Registered on 2007/09/03)
          引きこもり

          Sorry,I cannot write English.
          英語で書けないので日本語で。Ultimate/Professional/Home Premiumも有るよ。
          http://www.sofmap.com/topics/exec/_/id=windows7/-/sid=3/-/eVar3=MASPR
          この反応を見る限り窓辺ななみは日本限定なレアアイテムなんだねぇ。

          Mon 2009/09/28 00:45:15 JST (ID #723779)
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    • raptor_cZn
      raptor_cZn in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia (Registered on 2007/12/12)
      Pre-U Student
      http://wakuwakusuru.zeroclipse.net

      Uwaaa? Really?!!
      So limited... T_T

      Mon 2009/09/28 00:13:41 JST (ID #723773)
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  • soonkiong
    soonkiong in Malaysia (Registered on 2007/08/22)
    2nd year Civil Engineering Student
    http://soonkiong.blogspot.com

    I just switched from PC to Mac around two months ago. Have to admit, Mac is great and all but I still can't live without that Windows bootcamp partition around, especially with Windows 7 far better than I had expected. Mostly using Windows for autocad. Finder is way too weak, totally agree.

    Fri 2009/09/25 23:10:44 JST (ID #722588)
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  • Equity Private
    Equity Private in University of Notre Dame (Registered on 2009/03/27)
    Student
    http://www.dealbreaker.com

    Great article. It's quite true that you should use whatever suits your needs best. I use both Windows and OSX, both for different reasons. And yes, 7 is a huge improvement over Vista, and even over XP. Seeing the direction Microsoft was taking, I never though I'd see anything better than XP Pro anytime soon. Let's be honest, Vista was garbage. However, Windows 7 is hope for the future.

    Fri 2009/09/25 23:10:51 JST (ID #722589)
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    • Xelotath
      Xelotath in Quebec, Canada (Registered on 2008/07/04)
      Video Game Tester
      http://www.destructoid.com/blogs/Xelotath

      Vista was garbage at launch, now I'm running it and I never had any driver problem or any crash or freeze. Also the x64 version is better than XP x64. After you disable all the worthless security options and update de service packs everything runs smooth. Windows 7 is better but I'll wait until they release at least one service pack before upgrading.

      Sat 2009/09/26 08:27:51 JST (ID #722765)
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      • Equity Private
        Equity Private in University of Notre Dame (Registered on 2009/03/27)
        Student
        http://www.dealbreaker.com

        Not only does Vista run slower than XP, but I also think it looks much much worse. Furthermore, it's comparability is atrocious. All my friends who run it have problems 24/7. Vista was definitely garbage at launch, but it's still bad. I can't understand how anyone would ever pay more than $10 for it. I think I'll wait as well since XP does everything I need it to. I just don't see any reason to upgrade to either Vista or 7 considering my needs. XP runs Source, case closed.

        Sat 2009/09/26 08:48:32 JST (ID #722778)
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        • (Re-ACT)
          (Re-ACT) in cali, usa (Registered on 2009/01/07)
          bum,hachi roku driver

          QFMFT!
          Agreed.
          XP is still my favorite OS currently.

          Sat 2009/09/26 09:25:51 JST (ID #722788)
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        • Xelotath
          Xelotath in Quebec, Canada (Registered on 2008/07/04)
          Video Game Tester
          http://www.destructoid.com/blogs/Xelotath

          I didn't pay for it and I'll never pay for any OS. 400$ for an ultimate version of Windows is ridiculous. Linux is free and as much work went into it so why can't MS price Windows at a competitive price(around 40$). I know it cost a lot to make it but I don't know anyone who pays for windows aside from the pre-installed versions on store bought PCs. For 40-50$ I would buy it.

          As for Vista, I have a relatively powerful PC so the difference between this and XP in speed is not relevant. I do agree that I would run it on a PC less powerful than mine. Also, aero is the thing that eats ram and slows the PC down I turned it off. There is no perfect OS and for the moment Vista suits my need but I agree that XP(past SP2) was really good and that 7 will surpass vista.

          "XP runs Source, case closed." what is source?

          Sun 2009/09/27 05:35:56 JST (ID #723370)
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          • Equity Private
            Equity Private in University of Notre Dame (Registered on 2009/03/27)
            Student
            http://www.dealbreaker.com

            Counterstrike:Source.

            I can't justify paying for Windows, I always get it for free. OSX I pay for though, because it's reasonable priced...

            Wed 2009/09/30 02:17:30 JST (ID #724709)
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  • yunamon
    yunamon in a comfy chair above you influencing the FigNendo Wars... (Registered on 2009/03/31)
    Otaku Graphic Designer
    http://neoprolacus.spaces.live.com

    manga.fm!? So we get to see online mangas or doujins now?

    I'm currently a beta user of 7... Very satisfied thus far... Will get the final copy when it's release...

    Fri 2009/09/25 23:11:59 JST (ID #722590)
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    • hikky
      hikky in Austria (NOT Australia!) (Registered on 2008/05/19)
      NEET
      http://austrianotaku.com/

      manga.fm? Really wondering whats up with that too. I want my otaku.fm back! (ToT)

      Fri 2009/09/25 23:59:51 JST (ID #722623)
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    • bandit35
      bandit35 in U.S.A. (Registered on 2008/01/02)
      Civil Engineer, 토목 기사

      Maybe the April fools gag of Danny taking over Fakku was really premonition.

      Now back on topic. Been using Win7 on my laptop for a few months now, and must say I like it. Don't have much use for Linux or Mac as Autodesk will not port it applications over and until that happens there is no need to even bother on the production desktops.
      Now my backup domain controller is Ubuntu 9.04 Server edition and the wife's netbook has Ubuntu 9.04 on it also, was thinking of giving her snow leopard at a later date. So I'm not adverse to Linux or to Macs myself but until some major civil engineering software gets ported to run on either nativley they are not even under consideration.

      Just got to love dealer lock in.

      And no bootcamp, wine or parallels workstation are acceptable. They can't handle the power requirements of a civil software package. Believe me I've tried.

      Sat 2009/09/26 06:25:11 JST (ID #722738)
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  • IzayoiKagemaru
    IzayoiKagemaru in Portugal (Registered on 2008/09/16)
    Computer Tech. / Graphic Design
    http://reikukan.jimdo.com/

    I'm runing the RC right now and have been since the betas.

    So far I'm quite happy with it, it uses less resources than Vista and has more funcionality.

    And it loads amazingly fast on my 3 year old PC, and all the old software and games I use work with no problems.

    The only thing I found annoying is the HomeGroup network sharing, sometimes it takes a handfull of tries to get it working properly, but the old sharing service works fine.

    Fri 2009/09/25 23:13:38 JST (ID #722592)
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  • Jackass
    Jackass in New York (Registered on 2008/09/17)
    Student

    Currently using Windows 7 RC. I shall get the final copy to fix some minor issues such as generating thumbnails for mkv files.

    Fri 2009/09/25 23:16:02 JST (ID #722593)
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    • Zh3uS
      Zh3uS in Singapore (Registered on 2008/11/20)
      Student!
      http://zh3us.wordpress.com/

      i totally din know you could do that! Thumbnails for MKV o.o!!

      Sat 2009/09/26 00:08:50 JST (ID #722633)
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      • tymmur
        tymmur in his top secret nuclear bunker (Registered on 2008/01/20)
        Mad scientist

        That's what I was thinking. I tried a bit (not hard) to figure out how to do this on OSX. I came up with nothing so far, but then again usually the thumbnail is just the first image and it's often all black or a logo or something else, which isn't really a good description of the content ^^

        Sat 2009/09/26 08:35:54 JST (ID #722772)
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  • yamada
    yamada in Belait District, Brunei Darussalam (Registered on 2009/02/04)
    studying comp studies, planning to look for part time job
    http://bruneian-otaku.blogspot.com

    I'm still using XP OS, stuffs need to be updated but I can't do it meaning it's pirate ^^;

    I'm thinking to buy new laptop or maybe Mac, if I buy Mac I need to get used to the new OS(?). What I need it something big for my Mac or laptop/PC.

    Fri 2009/09/25 23:18:08 JST (ID #722595)
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    • Xelotath
      Xelotath in Quebec, Canada (Registered on 2008/07/04)
      Video Game Tester
      http://www.destructoid.com/blogs/Xelotath

      Search for mublinder on google, I was updating my XP version with it. It bypass the security check so that you can download the other updates. And it's free!

      Sat 2009/09/26 08:30:09 JST (ID #722767)
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      • (Re-ACT)
        (Re-ACT) in cali, usa (Registered on 2009/01/07)
        bum,hachi roku driver

        WOA!! Very good info. Thank You. I'll definitely give that software a try.

        Sat 2009/09/26 09:30:18 JST (ID #722789)
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  • paradigmshift
    paradigmshift in New York (Registered on 2008/09/14)
    Developer/Student
    http://threedeecomplex.wordpress.com/

    MS is offering awesome deals for Windows 7 in the US at least. There was the initial preorder deal that shaved 50% off Home and Professional upgrades. Theres the Windows 7 family pack that has 3 Home licenses for $150, and now there's the student discount, so anybody with a university email can get Home or Professional for $30. My school also offers Windows 7 free through MSDNAA as well. I'm planning on doing a mass upgrade and getting all my 5 of my computers on Windows 7. DirectX 11, integrated Media Center (that wasn't present on Windows Vista Business, which I use because I need Remote Desktop), integrated XP emulation mode, ability to run multiple video drivers (essential for the Lucid multi-GPU chipset coming out), all make the upgrade a no-brainer for me, especially with all those deals.

    Fri 2009/09/25 23:19:26 JST (ID #722597)
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    • Reltair
      Reltair in California, United States (Registered on 2009/06/13)
      College Student, Computer Science Major
      http://www.projectsaber.com

      My laptop currently has Windows 7 Professional that I got free through MSDNAA. Woot for CS!

      Sat 2009/09/26 13:20:44 JST (ID #722842)
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  • pipopaz
    pipopaz in US (Registered on 2008/08/26)
    thousand master II, Internet Learner, Auto didacta
    http://pipopaz.wordpress.com/

    I didn't have much trouble with Vista since I bought when lots of Service Pack had been released and with modest hardware. But, have to agree that windows 7 is a step in the right direction.
    Also agree that you should try different OSX and see what's best for your ^^, will love to get a mac right now but i'm just started saving XD.
    "soon japannow.fm and manga.fm"? can't wait to hear more about it ^^

    Fri 2009/09/25 23:20:02 JST (ID #722598)
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  • YuKi-To
    YuKi-To in Singapore/Indonesia (Registered on 2008/09/23)
    Nyoro-n...
    http://www.flickr.com/photos/yuki-to/

    manga.fm? I wonder what it would be like... :3

    Fri 2009/09/25 23:20:59 JST (ID #722600)
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  • gfartaria
    gfartaria in Portugal (Registered on 2008/10/14)
    Engineer

    Hi!
    Being a member of MSDNAA I'm currently using Windows 7 Professional x86 RTM. I totally skipped Vista and used WinXP up until now.
    I'm having a good experience with W7 and in spite of having only 1.5GB of RAM, 1.8GHz Centrino and a ATI9700 (128MB) on an old (4 years) laptop, it works great even with Aero on.
    I wonder who's using W7 with really low specs, I know mine are low but even lower.

    GF

    Fri 2009/09/25 23:24:20 JST (ID #722601)
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  • Alpenmilch
    Alpenmilch in Germany (Registered on 2009/04/26)

    I just bought a new pc with vista running on it and I got a free upgrade for windows 7....

    Fri 2009/09/25 23:24:33 JST (ID #722602)
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  • Kushieda
    Kushieda in Sydney, Australia (Registered on 2009/03/30)
    Student
    http://foxkey.blog126.fc2.com/

    Japannow and Manga fms? very nice.
    I still use the good ol Windows XP, but i've yet to tinker around with ALL it's functions mainly because I just use it practically. I guess the way I use a computer would change as I do more operations in the future, but that time is still far away.
    I've been meaning to hop onto the Mac bandwagon, i've had a little test run with them at school and it's a pretty difficult transition to a Mac computer. I guess it's one of those things i'll have to get used to, like how I forced myself to touch type << I used to only type with 3 of my fingers each hand..

    Fri 2009/09/25 23:25:09 JST (ID #722604)
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  • planetarian
    planetarian in Nowhereville, KY (Registered on 2009/06/12)
    Programmer
    http://piro.pirocast.net

    I'm using the final version via MSDN on several PCs (including my work system), and have been enjoying it quite a bit. They've got a winner on their hands.

    Fri 2009/09/25 23:26:25 JST (ID #722605)
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  • imaginebreaker
    imaginebreaker in Academy City (Registered on 2009/07/22)
    Student

    i prefer windows~~ i can operate better with it even thought mac look better...

    Fri 2009/09/25 23:26:58 JST (ID #722606)
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  • Tsun-chan
    Tsun-chan in the area of the burning River (Registered on 2009/02/18)
    unemployed machinist.. yeah

    Using xp 64 bit edition.. cause as of yet.. there aren't too many really good 64 bit operating systems that I'm aware of. though I honestly probably don't look very hard either.

    Fri 2009/09/25 23:28:10 JST (ID #722607)
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  • planetarian
    planetarian in Nowhereville, KY (Registered on 2009/06/12)
    Programmer
    http://piro.pirocast.net

    It should be noted that Win7 runs just fine even on typical netbook hardware -- 1.6GHz Atom N270, 1GB RAM, GMA950 graphics. Highly recommended.

    Fri 2009/09/25 23:28:39 JST (ID #722608)
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  • 6pack
    6pack (Registered on 2008/03/20)
    browsing the nets
    http://otakuposts.blogspot.com/

    there's no windows 7 pre-order here. i asked the microsoft helpline and they were clueless even on the pricing. talk about marketing strategies. lol. i'm still on windows xp here and will be upgrading to 7 whenever it comes out in my place (if i can afford it). hopefully they'll price it reasonably within the reach of poor people in developing countries like me.

    else i might switch to slax. Its free, just 200mb and quite fast. xD

    Fri 2009/09/25 23:41:11 JST (ID #722612)
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  • Robostrike1
    Robostrike1 in Canada (Registered on 2009/08/13)
    System Design Engineering (UWaterloo)
    http://robostrike.wordpress.com

    My university offers free Windows 7 for being a student ^_^ Apparently it gives a 2.2 rating for Netbooks ^_^

    Fri 2009/09/25 23:41:16 JST (ID #722613)
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  • greenlight
    greenlight (Registered on 2009/09/25)

    You can sort in open/save dialogs in Snow Leopard. Switch to list mode instead of column, thenr ight-click on the column headers to add new columns, and click them to sort.

    Fri 2009/09/25 23:46:53 JST (ID #722615)
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    • greenlight
      greenlight (Registered on 2009/09/25)

      Oh, and personally I much prefer the Mac OS Finder to Windows' explorer, no doubt because I've been a Mac user since birth. I could never live without Mac Finder features such as spring loaded folders, columns view, Labels, the sidebar, etc.

      Fri 2009/09/25 23:49:33 JST (ID #722617)
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  • yonasu
    yonasu in Otakuverse (Registered on 2009/07/09)
    Blogger
    http://www.yonasu.com

    Not going to get Windows 7 for any of my own computers, but I will try it on my friends' computers when they get it. I'm a Mac user myself and I'm very satisfied with it, I've been much more productive since I made the switch :)

    Fri 2009/09/25 23:48:00 JST (ID #722616)
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  • Cascade
    Cascade in Florida, United States (Registered on 2009/07/28)
    Student (University)

    I've been using Windows my whole life, and I have no problems with it. Probably the reason why I never switched over to Mac. Of course, I don't do any heavily techy based stuff, like coding or whatnot. I just do the basics, like watching videos, messing around on photoshop, HW, browsing the internet, and whatever else I need to.
    It's whatever works, and Windows is working fine right now. :D
    Of course, I am open about switching, it's just the cost of a Mac is kinda stopping me.

    Fri 2009/09/25 23:49:51 JST (ID #722618)
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  • hikky
    hikky in Austria (NOT Australia!) (Registered on 2008/05/19)
    NEET
    http://austrianotaku.com/

    Playing with the Beta Versions? Yah but I'm on the Final x64 Ultimate from MSDN since weeks! Wrote alittle bit about it but the post got eaten together with all other DC member news ^^;

    Windows 7 is the best OS MS came up with so far. Period! I don't have complaints atm after over one month on the Final version. The RC was running great too.
    The only problem is that those guys @ HP don't have completed drivers for my WiFi All-in-one device.

    All those who still work with an this 8 year old thingy called XP will hopefully switch now xD

    And yah, Finder isn't as perfect as Apple advertises it. One strange thing I noticed on friends new MBP lately is that files and folders aren't automtically rearranged if you resize a Finder window. @_@ Kinda weird.

    Fri 2009/09/25 23:53:51 JST (ID #722620)
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  • Smithy
    Smithy in Neo-Venezia (Registered on 2008/05/20)
    ~Undine~
    http://bluebluewave.wordpress.com

    I haven't been too impressed with Vista, after using the Windows 7 RC for a bit now, I'm preferring it over Vista. Has been running smoothly here without any issues. I'll probably get a retail version of Windows 7 when it's out.

    Fri 2009/09/25 23:57:40 JST (ID #722621)
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  • Okita
    Okita in Germany (Registered on 2008/10/28)
    Student & Game Designer
    http://www.artificialzeromedia.com/

    the ONLY reason MS is still in business is because of their success BACK THEN
    they are doing nothing but shit these days.

    I see no reason to go to windows 7 after that pathetic vista. Im thinking about going to ubtuntu and use XP for some of the few windows only apps.

    Fri 2009/09/25 23:58:57 JST (ID #722622)
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  • Sneddon
    Sneddon in Southampton, UK (Registered on 2008/08/28)
    10% Student, 10% Salesman, 80% Gaming/Otaku
    http://www.anidemon.co.cc/index.php?www

    they're offering Windows 7 to students for only £30 for the premium edition, so yep im upgrading :D

    Sat 2009/09/26 00:02:40 JST (ID #722624)
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  • no_hope
    no_hope in Melbourne, Australia (Registered on 2008/12/15)
    University Student

    while i am proficient in both Windows and the Mac OS, i tend to have a preference for Windows. maybe because i have come to love my computer taking up all my ram for no good reason, and the blue screen of death that for some reason has never plagued me, or because there are so many games that are more easily accessible on the Windows than compared to the Mac OS.

    anyway, from the Windows 7 RC, it seems to me that it's functioning much better than the current Vista, so i will most probably be planning to switch to it when i get a new computer.

    Sat 2009/09/26 00:04:03 JST (ID #722626)
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  • Zh3uS
    Zh3uS in Singapore (Registered on 2008/11/20)
    Student!
    http://zh3us.wordpress.com/

    ^^; using Windows 7 now and is very happy! Overall Speed and performance boost even over XP.

    Tried to bear with Vista for 1 Semester and decided i scrape it and install XP...

    Sat 2009/09/26 00:06:40 JST (ID #722630)
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  • notfair
    notfair in Malaysia (Registered on 2007/08/14)
    Student, ACG Fans
    http://modvisc.blogspot.com

    using RC version right now, it is wonderful compare to the vista.

    Sat 2009/09/26 00:08:29 JST (ID #722632)
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  • Bakkou
    Bakkou in Australia (Registered on 2009/04/01)
    Student

    I got W7 RC when it first came out, haven't used it since. As much as I enjoy W7, some programs I frequently used were not fully supported at the time I was using W7, WinXP ftw!

    Sat 2009/09/26 00:12:16 JST (ID #722635)
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  • Darkdam
    Darkdam in New York (Registered on 2007/09/01)
    http://darkdam.deviantart.com/

    ah yes, not being able to sort by date or type really is annoying, my school's computer are 99% mac and it's very difficult to look for files in my flash drives.

    Sat 2009/09/26 00:38:16 JST (ID #722638)
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  • Harts
    Harts in Estonia (Registered on 2008/06/02)
    Student

    >Have any of you been playing about with the beta versions? Planning on upgrading or sticking with Vista or XP?
    Have had the windows 7 RC on from the day it came out. Planning to install the RTM copy soon (I already have my copy from MSDNAA). Liked Vista, and like the 7 even more:)

    Sat 2009/09/26 00:40:52 JST (ID #722639)
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  • crunchbite
    crunchbite in Thunder Bay, ON (Registered on 2008/08/22)
    DSL Tech Support T____T, Kita-Kon Chairman
    http://www.kita-kon.org

    I'm going to stick with Windows. I don't find the mac OS' are better than Windows 7. I also game when I have nothing to work on so Windows is for me.

    Sat 2009/09/26 00:44:19 JST (ID #722642)
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  • GundamJehutyKai
    GundamJehutyKai in Foundation II Stellvia (Registered on 2007/09/12)
    Service desk support
    http://lookingglass.kokidokom.net

    Preordered my copy ages ago, back when they were doing big discounts. I'm a PC through and through

    And [url=http://gizmodo.com/5364205/the-truth-part-ii-dear-readers]this[/url] diagram accurately shows the pros and cons of the 3 main OS, I reckon!

    Sat 2009/09/26 00:53:20 JST (ID #722645)
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  • Ekowc
    Ekowc in Finland (Registered on 2007/07/15)
    Ordinary soul (student)
    http://www.ekowc.net

    yeah, both my main pc & laptop have win7 RC in active use.

    Sat 2009/09/26 01:07:13 JST (ID #722647)
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  • Mimo
    Mimo in India (Registered on 2009/06/03)
    Student

    been using candidate version for 3 months , quite nice. just that there is some driver problems. graphic card and camera.

    Sat 2009/09/26 01:20:48 JST (ID #722651)
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  • zuco
    zuco in Tokyo (Registered on 2009/03/19)
    Photographer
    http://www.zuco.org

    I'm using Linux since 1996 and since that time I never used Windows anymore. Actually I switch to MacOS for my graphic work and I'm still using Linux for many other stuff.
    Personally I think that spending money with Windows is just a waste. It's insecure, it crashes so many times it's close and its development responds only on Microsoft needs, not users needs. I cannot understand why people still waste their money is such a crappy product when they have the option for a wonderful OS such MacOS or Linux.

    Sat 2009/09/26 01:30:04 JST (ID #722653)
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    • shion
      shion in Italy (Registered on 2007/12/05)
      step to step drivers collaudator

      i agree with you Zuco.......i used windows from windows 98 SE to Windows XP , when Vista came out i passed to Linux ( i didn't like Vista).Now i used for 90% Ubuntu and for 10% XP/Vista.I the future i will buy a macbook for replace my notebook, qith bootcamp for only the games on windows.I don't like windows too much because is not "trasparence" with the owner, there are lot of programs that run without the owner know......

      Sat 2009/09/26 03:08:25 JST (ID #722686)
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    • ceasol
      ceasol in Edmonton, Canada (Registered on 2008/01/08)
      Otaku
      http://imperiomoe.wordpress.com

      Same here a happy SuSE and Ubuntu user I'm no need of Window$.

      My 2 year Dell laptop comes with Ubuntu I never reinstall the OS just updates. I have a friend with a Dell laptop with Windows Vista, he reinstall the OS at least 5 times: update conflicts, virus, etc.

      Window$ no thanks!!

      Sat 2009/09/26 03:54:43 JST (ID #722697)
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    • The Bard
      The Bard in Dokodemo ii yo (Registered on 2008/03/12)
      Poet (not)

      I use Windows out of necessity. The day Linux/Mac gets the same treatment that game makers give Windows, is the day I throw Windows out the window (no pun intended).

      Sat 2009/09/26 04:48:59 JST (ID #722719)
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      • kabuki_128
        kabuki_128 in Spain (Registered on 2009/07/05)
        Computer Engineer (in learning process)

        Thats the way I think. Windows is in his last years (hope).

        Sat 2009/09/26 05:48:30 JST (ID #722732)
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    • paradigmshift
      paradigmshift in New York (Registered on 2008/09/14)
      Developer/Student
      http://threedeecomplex.wordpress.com/

      I get Windows for free first of all (MSDNAA), and for other licenses I jumped on the discounted upgrades and the student discount as well, so I don't think I am *wasting* money with Windows.

      Windows 7 and Vista are very secure operating systems, and there is the constant update support, along with the free Service Packs, for additional security, compared with Apple which maintains its security through obscurity model. Most security problems come from the meaty part between the seat and the computer.

      As for development, MS Visual Studio is an excellent IDE, and I base my livelihood on MS products (my web development at work occurs on IIS, using ASP .NET and MS SQL Server). They haven't let me down yet, and they haven't let my company's clients down yet either. So I would say that is responding to "user needs" fairly well.

      The only times Windows has crashed on me lately is when I push my overclocks beyond what my system can handle, or when I fiddle around with beta video card drivers. Otherwise, Vista SP2 and Win7 RC have been rock solid.

      The day I can utilize newly released video cards without waiting for a terribly buggy Linux driver from ATI or NVIDIA, running all the latest games on maxed settings (with DirectX 11), without having to run terrible emulation or restarting into Windows anyways is the day I will switch to Linux (I have a multi-boot with FreeBSD for most of my development work, so more likely I am hoping for more BSD improvements). As of right now, Windows is a perfectly stable OS with all the functionality I need that also provides for all my entertainment and hobby needs as well. Why should I use anything else?

      Sat 2009/09/26 05:21:14 JST (ID #722721)
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      • Anondorf
        Anondorf in Granada, Spain (Registered on 2008/09/26)
        (almost) latin teacher, viking-in-training
        http://suexcelencia.wordpress.com

        >>all the functionality I need that also provides for all my entertainment and hobby needs as well. Why should I use anything else?
        I could use exactly the same line as a reason for me supporting linux (currently Fedora 11, after 3 years with ubuntu). However, I do not think of windows as trash, not totally at least. It's simply an election based on: what you need, what you want, and what you like. I've leave behind some great games and lived a few moments of despair thanks to my choice, but I don't regret it.
        Want to try Mac sometime in the future, with some money in my pockets ^w^;

        Sat 2009/09/26 06:05:27 JST (ID #722736)
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      • Requiem
        Requiem in Mars (Registered on 2007/11/07)
        Web developer

        Windows is stable now yes, and from your privileged point of view it seems cost effective, but I still wouldn't like to run an OS where the entire architecture is built to trap me in case I don't use a "genuine" copy.

        Personally, I enjoy not entering key codes, keeping CD cases, making activation calls or having a hardware update lock me out of my system.

        Linux gives me peace of mind.

        Sat 2009/09/26 11:14:42 JST (ID #722801)
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        • paradigmshift
          paradigmshift in New York (Registered on 2008/09/14)
          Developer/Student
          http://threedeecomplex.wordpress.com/

          As long as you have a genuine copy, you shouldn't have any issues then, right? It isn't just MS Windows that has DRM, almost anything nowadays that has a copyright attached to it has DRM. I just keep my Windows keys on file on a couple of USB sticks, and I can always access them through my MSNDAA account. Nothing too complex, and I've never had to make a call to activate, or ever get suddenly locked out or anything.

          My peace of mind comes from the fact that I can upgrade to the latest hardware whenever and utilize it instantly, and play all the latest PC games at their max settings, and that when I buy software, I generally don't have to hunt for the alternate version for my OS or wait for that version to come out. We all have different priorities.

          Sat 2009/09/26 12:17:54 JST (ID #722814)
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          • Requiem
            Requiem in Mars (Registered on 2007/11/07)
            Web developer

            Like you said different priorities, MS has still done lots of shady stuff from embedding secrets codes in office documents, secretly logging everything you type into Word or silently installing unremovable plugins to 3rd party software, I don't know how anyone still thrust them but some people will just defend their masters fiercely, specially lucky an privileged ones.

            Sun 2009/09/27 00:17:44 JST (ID #723265)
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            • paradigmshift
              paradigmshift in New York (Registered on 2008/09/14)
              Developer/Student
              http://threedeecomplex.wordpress.com/

              I don't *trust* MS any more than I would trust any other company I purchase software or products from. I know they are a corporation and they exist to make money. Doesn't mean they are some evil empire that wants to subjugate us. You have some serious paranoia, especially with the claim of keystroke logging in Word. Are you not going to buy any TVs anymore because you're afraid that the manufacturer is secretly recording what you watch? I'm sure that eventually somebody would notice strange packets being transmitted from their computer and through their routers when using MS Word if this was the case.

              That's why I'm taking issue here. You are using demeaning and negative language to describe people who use MS products, like MS are our "masters" as if we are being enslaved and that Linux is some sort of holy savior. Get off your pedestal. Both are operating systems with pros and cons, and people will use what they are familiar with and what gets their work done. As for saying only the lucky and privileged who are willing to use MS, the biggest competitor to Windows especially in developing and third world nations, is pirated Windows. Those people would rather use bootleg copies of Windows instead of a free OS like Linux, and I would not say they are the definition of lucky and privileged at all.

              Sun 2009/09/27 03:08:59 JST (ID #723331)
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              • Requiem
                Requiem in Mars (Registered on 2007/11/07)
                Web developer

                Actually they (including myself) are privileged to live where copyrights are not actively enforced, it's a real privilege just like your student discount (actually better).

                And you are lucky not to have any hardware issues or upgrade lockups, I used to do support for a company (although I was hired as a developer) and had to deal with activation keys and hardware drivers almost daily plus the occasional activation call (oh I almost forgot about the virus)

                Say what you want, no TV maker has as bad track record as MS (although SONY is trying hard)

                Sorry to call them your masters, I can see why it's your choice.

                I'm just baffled how people get so emotionally invested in defending a company that regard them as cattle. For instance zuco doesn't need windows so he comments that it's a waste of money and you just had to rush and defend Windows, that (yougetadicountso) it's not a waste of money, so I'm like "perhaps but it's a hassle" yet you seem to insist these problems don't exist because you haven't found them and that antagonizing users is ok because other corps do it, I insist that's wrong and you call me paranoid.

                Do you see the pattern here? You obviously have to defend your choice and you obviously need the last word so go ahead, take it. Cheers.

                Mon 2009/09/28 17:30:19 JST (ID #724111)
    • tymmur
      tymmur in his top secret nuclear bunker (Registered on 2008/01/20)
      Mad scientist

      I first used Commodore 64, then Amiga 500 and then mac. I never used Windows as primary OS, except for a single laptop running XP. I know it sounds strange to buy an XP notebook when you use mac, but this predates bootcamp and I needed it to run some windows only stuff. It gave me the option to really compare the OSes though.

      I will not pick Windows as a primary OS again. The reason is quite simple: I want a computer with a working GCC and POSIX system. It greatly subtracts from productivity when it's missing, at least for me. Sure stuff like cygwin compensates for that, but it's just not the same as it's slow and limited.

      "Windows is the worst OS with the best installer". A professor once said that during a break when the students started talking about OSes. The installer part is not even valid anymore. OSX works quite well and Ubuntu is not something to fear either. Compared to windows that is. I know some people who might not be able to install any OS :P
      Also it's not the worst OS either. There are some OSes with such a limited amount of users that nobody codes software for them. SkyOS comes to mind, which is basically a one man project. The OS itself might be quite nice, but without software...

      Sat 2009/09/26 07:31:05 JST (ID #722752)
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  • Setsukyie
    Setsukyie in Malaysia (Registered on 2008/01/05)
    Student during the day, otaku at night, and amateur musician ^_^
    http://www.thebanzaieffect.com/

    I've been a Windows user all my life (using XP now)
    But I'm interested in Mac..
    If only it was less expensive >_<

    Sat 2009/09/26 01:34:10 JST (ID #722657)
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  • omnicon
    omnicon in Texas (Registered on 2009/07/22)
    Graphic Designer
    http://www.omnicononline.com

    I've been running Win7 since it was available for beta, and have been using RC at work and at home for some time now, and I love it. Its quick and not as bulky as any other windows OS and i have to say that the lines between Mac and Windows are starting to blur. As soon as more companies start putting out drivers that take full advantage, there will be no stopping it!

    Sat 2009/09/26 01:36:42 JST (ID #722658)
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  • Searider
    Searider in Taipei (Registered on 2009/06/08)
    Exchange Student
    http://sander.zunavi.dk/

    I just got me a new laptop the other day, and here in Taiwan, it's absolutely impossible to get anything legal without Vista on, so I'm looking very much forward to the day I am able to switch it to Windows 7.

    Sat 2009/09/26 01:42:59 JST (ID #722662)
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  • Erhune
    Erhune in Tôkyô (Registered on 2008/02/28)
    Professional geek
    http://www.npng.org/blog

    I'm currently using Vista since XP doesn't support GPT partition tables (so no partition > 2 Tb, so no 4x1.5 Tb RAID5 array T_T). I tried Seven RC1 when it was released, found it very good - especially the new taskbar which is essentially the fantastic Mac OS dock with a better presentation, I think - so I preordered the final version. Nice move by M$ to have had these really discounted preorders, too bad there were so few of them (at least in France).

    Sat 2009/09/26 01:51:14 JST (ID #722666)
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  • silentkey
    silentkey in Singapore (Registered on 2008/01/24)
    Student, Uncle & hopfully a good husband..

    Using Windows for most of my work...can use Mac as well...but will take time to learn how to use it properly...

    Sat 2009/09/26 02:10:35 JST (ID #722668)
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  • FMPhoenixHawk
    FMPhoenixHawk in Michigan, USA (Registered on 2008/01/20)
    Scientist, unemployed.
    http://fmphoenixhawk.livejournal.com

    Already have my Win 7 pre-order with Amazon. I should get a second one, though, so I can upgrade Mom's computer, if WinTOTAL has an update to Win 7/Vista.

    Sat 2009/09/26 02:16:31 JST (ID #722669)
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  • Kyoraki
    Kyoraki in West Sussex England (Registered on 2009/02/07)
    College Student

    I spent 5 years trying to get XP perfect, lots of little tweaks here and there, and now I no longer recognise it from the default installation.
    One thing I can recommend to all windows users however- Remove all DRM from windows. Now. It will give you so much freedom over your system it will be unbelievable.

    Sat 2009/09/26 02:20:21 JST (ID #722670)
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  • Morgan Lamia
    Morgan Lamia in Oxford, England. (Registered on 2009/08/10)
    Sentai Ranger
    http://morganlamia.blogspot.com/

    I'll most likely switch over to 7 a few months after retail release, when there's a bit more support for it and such. I'm still on XP right now ^^; (Not exactly a Vista fan...)

    Sat 2009/09/26 02:23:16 JST (ID #722671)
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  • senken
    senken in Vancouver, Canada (Registered on 2009/03/26)
    IT Administrator

    I would like the pre-order set with Mizuki Nana voice pack!!!

    Sat 2009/09/26 02:30:31 JST (ID #722672)
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  • FD3S
    FD3S in Kanada (Registered on 2009/04/09)

    I switched from XP Service Pack 3 to Windows 7 couple months ago.

    Sat 2009/09/26 02:40:01 JST (ID #722675)
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  • Orange
    Orange (Registered on 2008/06/12)
    http://orange.exofire.net

    I've been running Windows 7 RC for a while now. I have a copy of Windows 7 Pro (yay for university resources) so I'll probably install that over the weekend.

    Sat 2009/09/26 02:41:01 JST (ID #722676)
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  • Vortigren
    Vortigren in the Bamboo Hut of East Jakarta, Republic of Indonesia (Registered on 2009/09/04)
    Student, Bowler, Collector
    http://carldica.wordpress.com

    For some reason, XP is still the best for me, although currently I'm using Vista Ultimate. Would love to try Windows 7 with all the expansion pack etc.

    Sat 2009/09/26 02:43:43 JST (ID #722678)
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  • RogueTrooper
    RogueTrooper in Berkshire UK (Registered on 2009/01/06)
    Dental Technician, i make teeth!
    http://antsizedman.blogspot.com/

    Did'nt realise Mac did not have a thumbnail vieew that would be quite annoying for me.

    Sat 2009/09/26 02:44:10 JST (ID #722679)
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  • the great paul
    the great paul in heaven (Registered on 2008/03/14)
    pervert

    i use my windows to play games and download while i use my mac to write my papers and programs

    Sat 2009/09/26 02:57:14 JST (ID #722683)
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  • 月下メロン
    月下メロン (Registered on 2009/09/05)
    Programmer, DJ, 仮面浪人w
    http://findingtheblue.blogspot.com

    I'll be using Windows 7 as my main OS in about a month or so. For now I'll stick with Vista, I don't think it is too bad but I think 7 is a big improvement over it. I have a few machines running Linux/BSD but no Mac computers, mainly the price is a barrier because when I have that money I want to spend it on other things.

    One day I'd like to try Mac out properly.

    Sat 2009/09/26 03:02:18 JST (ID #722684)
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  • nbreath
    nbreath in Pasto, Colombia (Registered on 2008/10/11)
    Student
    http://situsaleatorius.blogspot.com

    This remidns me that I have to set up a launch event of W7 in my university for october @_@

    Sat 2009/09/26 03:33:13 JST (ID #722691)
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  • chun
    chun in need to be in bed (Registered on 2007/01/09)
    part time illustrationist, doll clothing seamstress
    http://puppy52art.com/

    huhu good to hear an honest opinion about mac vs windows from U Danny :P I'm currenting running Win7 on my lappy, and for me computer mac or windows they're tools for me to use to make my artwork :) Currently unfortunately one of my favourite program does not run on Mac so... that's one of the main reason I refused to be "converted back" to mac other than the price tag ^^; My first personal computer was a Mac ;)!

    Sat 2009/09/26 04:11:50 JST (ID #722702)
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  • Moemoekyun
    Moemoekyun in otakukingdom (Registered on 2009/07/18)
    http://moemoekyun.wordpress.com

    I study computer and the curiculum stil teach you vista not 7 !

    Sat 2009/09/26 04:21:10 JST (ID #722705)
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  • Mew2
    Mew2 in Icewind Dale (Registered on 2009/07/11)
    http://thisblogissuxor.blogspot.com

    I read you can upgrade to the "Home Premium" version for 30 dollars with a .edu email address which sounds tempting. I used the beta and did like it so maybe I will upgrade in the future, but it seems like a waste for basically just a new UI and a bit "lighter" OS

    Sat 2009/09/26 04:21:47 JST (ID #722706)
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  • SeiWhiteMoe
    SeiWhiteMoe in Caracas,Venezuela (Registered on 2009/06/18)
    Full-time geek/Part-time student/Part-time musician
    http://randomgeekness.livejournal.com/

    I'm going to be on Vista for a loooong time XD.

    Sat 2009/09/26 04:40:41 JST (ID #722714)
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  • The Bard
    The Bard in Dokodemo ii yo (Registered on 2008/03/12)
    Poet (not)

    I can certainly relate to you regarding the need for matching your development/testing/production environments. I'm a heavy gamer, so my main gaming/development machine has to run Windows. The production environments however, are Linux. Testing is a pain too, with the various web browsers out there, and some (looking at you IE), don't coexist well with each other on the same OS. Thank God for virtualization.

    Am sticking with Vista for now, since I paid a lot for the Ultimate version last time. Will consider 7 upgrade (as in complete wipe + clean install) mid of next year.

    Sat 2009/09/26 04:43:59 JST (ID #722717)
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  • Chasuu
    Chasuu (Registered on 2009/09/04)
    http://myanimelist.net/profile/Chace

    I've had the beta for about a month now and I love it.
    I haven't had any bugs or problems so far.
    Vastly superior to Vista IMO.

    Sat 2009/09/26 05:04:56 JST (ID #722720)
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  • WiseFreeman
    WiseFreeman in DC Cloning Laboratory (Registered on 2007/11/07)
    Dance Trooper: DCX-001 O.D.E. (Order of the Dancing Empire)
    http://dannychoo.com.my

    I will definitely switch to Windows 7.

    Been using Vista Ultimate 64bit & wasn't as smooth as I thought even though it runs on my Quad core extreme with 8Gb memory Ram on my mobile workstation.

    Sat 2009/09/26 05:35:14 JST (ID #722724)
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  • kabuki_128
    kabuki_128 in Spain (Registered on 2009/07/05)
    Computer Engineer (in learning process)

    I will move to Unix based systems, like Linux. I think Debian will be the option I will choose for the future. By now I'm using Ubuntu and Windows XP (for gaming).

    Sat 2009/09/26 05:37:38 JST (ID #722725)
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  • Sgt Chase
    Sgt Chase in Minnesota (Registered on 2008/12/27)
    Wireless Consultant

    I have been Beta testing Windows 7 for 6 months now and i have to say it's much better than Fantastic Vista (sarcasim).

    It takes the best of Windows XP and the better side of Vista and merges them together. Also one of the great things about it is the cost. It costs half of what it would when Vista came out. But a reward for Beta testers sending in info is they recieve a free copy of Windows 7 Ultimate when it's launched if you have been sending info for 4 months. Still would like a Mac thou for alot of editing software they have.

    Sat 2009/09/26 05:38:54 JST (ID #722727)
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  • Rurouni Heero
    Rurouni Heero in Quebec ,Canada (Registered on 2008/01/24)
    Hospital supply manager and Gundam pilot in training

    I've been beta testing 7 for 5 months and I just love it. Gonna be using double boot with XP64 and 7 like I'm using right now.

    Sat 2009/09/26 05:40:29 JST (ID #722728)
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  • NPC
    NPC in Rocklin, CA (Registered on 2007/12/06)
    JR. College Student
    http://npc.talkingincircles.net/

    Sticking with XP for now, since this is a 5 year old computer or so. I also don't want to mess with the drivers of my sound card wich are exclusive XP.

    What I'll end up doing is making my next PC entirely Linux/Unix compatible and just run that and use this as a production station.

    Sat 2009/09/26 05:41:20 JST (ID #722729)
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    • tymmur
      tymmur in his top secret nuclear bunker (Registered on 2008/01/20)
      Mad scientist

      making my next PC entirely Linux/Unix compatible

      Sounds good. Using a POSIX system (which is basically all linux/unix families, including OSX) gives access to the entire world of free linux applications. Quite a lot of them are actually quite good. Also you can easily make bash scripts to avoid doing repeating tasks manually and it's not hard.

      It goes without saying that you should pick OS based on what you expect to use the computer for. However buying hardware, which is known to work well in both linux and Windows seems like a good idea as you will can just install a new OS if you start to hate your current one ^^

      Sat 2009/09/26 07:12:54 JST (ID #722747)
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  • misteryoshi
    misteryoshi in Planet Frankfurt, Germania System (Registered on 2009/09/03)
    Japanology Student/Jedi Knight

    I've also been using Windows 7 Beta for a while now and though I'm no OS expert, I can defintely say that it is a major improvement compared to its predecessors.

    Sat 2009/09/26 06:30:55 JST (ID #722739)
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  • Overlord Basara
    Overlord Basara in Sweden (Registered on 2009/07/13)
    unemployed gamer and anime watcher
    http://otoboku.se

    I´m using Win7 RC1 at this moment. Installating it? No problem.

    Finding drives to my parts? No worries.

    Faster startup/close? Yup. Less BSOD? Yes.

    So far since I installed Win7 RC1 nothing has gone wrong.

    I´d love to test out Snow Leopard, but I´m not going to buy a expensive mac for it.

    Sat 2009/09/26 06:52:55 JST (ID #722741)
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  • Asian Ed
    Asian Ed in Charlotte, NC (Registered on 2008/12/25)
    Technical Account Manager
    http://howdoyoufigure.wordpress.com

    Running RTM on everything I have since it was released. I might have to take some pictures of some presales while I'm here in Japan to share with the folks back home...

    Sat 2009/09/26 06:59:06 JST (ID #722742)
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  • tymmur
    tymmur in his top secret nuclear bunker (Registered on 2008/01/20)
    Mad scientist

    I also used to think that Macs didn't have any software. While Windows users have the choice of zillions of FTP apps, Macs have only a handful. But coming to think of it - its the quality over quantity that counts and a handful is all thats needed

    I encountered this thinking before. Windows fanboys usually refers to the quantity of Windows applications. Sure the quantity is not that great on mac, but you only need one application if it gets the job done without too much hassle.

    I guess the best example of this could be the app GraphicConverter. The first version is ancient and could convert between different image formats (jpg to gif and so on). The new versions supports a zillion formats and you can manipulate the images a whole lot as well so the name is odd compared to what it can do today.

    One example would be the images I have posted here. I edited all of them in GraphicConverter. It's quite easy and fast to resize all the images you want to the same height and then I added the width of all of them and made an image where I copy pasted the actual images into. Takes almost no time and great results (I wonder if I need it now that we can post multiple images though).

    Another example would be a 50 year old photo I scanned. Something went wrong when taking the picture so it's really dark and you can make out two faces and the building in the background. I used GraphicConverter to first rotate the image to make the edges completely horizontal and vertical (nobody can place it like that in a scanner at 800 dpi so rotating will always be needed) and then I highlighted the image alone and used the command to make a new image from the selected. I then had an image of the whole picture and nothing but the picture. I then modified the colours. I applied that all values more than say 90 (I used a slider) should be set to 90 and then the range 0 to 90 should be scaled to 0 to 255. Now the picture became much brighter without making the really dark places brighter. Basically it made it easier to tell the different shades of dark apart. All of a sudden the picture revealed it's secret (which nobody knew) that the darkness had concealed an additional 3 people. The quality of those people even became good enough to tell who they were. I also used this to convert to grayscale and then make it use values from 0 to 255. This provides much better results when printing on a grayscale printer.

    GraphicConverter can do a whole lot of other stuff I haven't figured out how to use yet, such as layers and actually drawing (in paint style, though with a few advanced tools). I have yet to encounter such a single graphical application for Windows, which can cover every graphical need I have and this one is even shareware.

    This became a bit long, but I think it makes my point clear. Why should anyone want many applications when a few or just a single one can do the job just fine?

    As for Windows 7... Well I use OSX as my main OS and has XP in bootcamp. I only use bootcamp to run Windows only software and only one app/game at a time so it really wouldn't make any difference to me if it's one OS or another one. I will use the cheap and easy solution, which is not to upgrade ^^

    Sat 2009/09/26 07:06:47 JST (ID #722744)
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  • lost_eden
    lost_eden in Scotland (Registered on 2009/04/15)
    University Student/Anime Society President
    http://www.imagesofeden.co.uk

    Me uses Windows, Mac OS & Linux on a daily basis so I get the best of all worlds. Then again I am a Computer Science student so it's hardly a common arrangement...

    Desktop (in my room) runs Linux with Windows VMs for Photoshop/Lightroom stuff, laptop (in the lab) runs Mac OS with Windows VMs for when I need to run Visual Studio or such. Only time I boot the desktop into Windows is for games, which I don't play a lot of. It was such a hassle before I discovered what VMs were, I either had to keep rebooting or have multiple computers - now I can sit at my Linux desktop & load up Windows XP on the other monitor in seconds & have access to all of my Linux files too. Multiple monitors & a stable host OS with multiple VMs is a sweet way of working :)

    I also hate Finder, for really simple things like it doesn't have an address/location bar so you can't quickly type in the path you want to go to with tab-autocomplete. But the one thing really stands out when comparing the different OSes is that both Mac OS & Windows lack a centralised package manager - in Linux every single piece of software on my computer (including the OS itself) is installed/updated/upgraded/uninstalled using a single program - you never have to search for programs on the web, find the right versions, etc. & you know that every single piece of software on your computer is up to date with a single update command.

    Sat 2009/09/26 07:47:32 JST (ID #722757)
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    • tymmur
      tymmur in his top secret nuclear bunker (Registered on 2008/01/20)
      Mad scientist

      both Mac OS & Windows lack a centralised package manager

      OSX has fink. Sure you have to install it yourself, but once it's installed it will do as you request. I think it even use some aptget code, but I'm not sure. Also while the system is CLI on it's own, somebody made a GUI frontend. I don't know if it's any good though because I always use the CLI ^^

      Fink only keeps track of what it installed itself so you still need to use software update, but that one runs in the background on the OS, so I don't think that's a problem. There is also an application, which can scan your entire HD and make a list of all your applications with version number. It then compares that to some online list and informs you if you have outdated software. Works quite well (though I'm not using it at the moment :P)

      As you can see it's not that hard to get the feature you request in OSX but you do need to install it yourself while it's preinstalled in linux.

      Sat 2009/09/26 08:48:30 JST (ID #722777)
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  • gerbo-san
    gerbo-san in Arequipa Peru (Registered on 2009/03/24)
    Industrial engineer
    http://inotas.blogspot.com

    I'm a PC user, but had my time as a Mac lover. I still remember those PowerPCs 7200 (one of the first models with PPC processor), the SCSI drives. MacOS 7.6.1. Of course I remember cos I had to install them. About 8 from the 20 Macs that the Uni had. With Macs I had my first internet experience and definitely the UI was _way_ better than Win95. Software was a problem but easily solved with Hotline (something like a FTP with a tracker). Those were nice years, adding the MP3s I downloaded. ;)
    Now I move between two words, Windows and Linux. Windows has a nice File explorer, but the resilience of Linux I cannot give up. I only use Win to play or use certain software that is not available for Linux (but I should try Wine seriously). Also, I made the change by my own, wondering when I'm going to do the same with my life =P, tried a pair of versions, tried softwares, did some research, although I'm still just a simple desktop user, and I'm proud with my choice, of what Linux is currently. Just have to study more. =)

    Sat 2009/09/26 08:16:18 JST (ID #722761)
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  • Takako
    Takako in Philippines (Registered on 2009/04/16)
    writer/blogger/gamer/otaku
    http://popgoespj.blogspot.com

    looking forward to the two new sites.

    My computer history got started on one of those old-time Mac unibody units. My dad made the switch to Mac a long time ago and now carries around one of the new macbook airs. As for me, I got started doodling around with a GUI on that old venerable model.

    At school, I got started with DOS and WordStar, moving on through the Windows builds from 3.x and onward.

    Presently I use an RC of Win7 at home, and love it; at the office, we're all still using XP. have been vastly tempted to put 7 on my work machine, but know I'd lose a day or two in the switchover, so never tried it.

    of all the Windows builds I like 7 best - it really is a step up over XP and totally wipes the floor with buggy ol' Vista.

    Sat 2009/09/26 08:31:53 JST (ID #722770)
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  • pluki7
    pluki7 in Jakarta, Indonesia (Registered on 2007/04/18)
    broadcasting slave

    Been using Macs since System 7 and Windows since 3.1... The biggest difference is always about viruses (virii?) and stability issues. Not good when you're living between deadlines. I admit if Windows is virus free it would've been good enough to use, but Macs have never failed me. My PC friends used to check their floppies with my Mac to see if there were viruses, and if any was found it was simply deleted... no virus checker needed.

    Sat 2009/09/26 08:34:51 JST (ID #722771)
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  • Patti
    Patti in Sydney, Australia (Registered on 2009/04/27)
    Time Traveller/High School Student
    http://thetsundere.wordpress.com/

    Meh... I use a Mac ^^

    but Manga.fm sounds interesting! xD

    Sat 2009/09/26 08:40:37 JST (ID #722774)
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  • lightningsabre
    lightningsabre in Vancouver (Registered on 2007/08/30)
    Pseudo-Graphic Designer, 触手 wrangler, H-Man
    http://lightningsabre.blogspot.com/

    Buying OS is expensive even if it's just an upgrade... I'd love to get out of the Vista thing on my laptop. I'm not liking it at all. Still liking the XP on the main computer though. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

    Sat 2009/09/26 08:54:47 JST (ID #722779)
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  • grendizer
    grendizer in Malta (Registered on 2009/06/24)
    Teacher of English
    http://www.freewebs.com/superrobots/

    I'm still using Windows XP and happy with it.

    Sat 2009/09/26 09:16:11 JST (ID #722785)
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  • Veeediot
    Veeediot in Canada (Registered on 2009/01/30)
    Multimedia Designer/Developer
    http://www.mcmonagle-interphase.com/

    I grew up with Macs all my life, and only started using Windows when I started building my own PCs.
    It's strange for me how everyone talks about the dreaded BSOD. I used to get kernel panics on a weekly basis with my old G4 iMac, but I've never had a single BSOD in windows. I think both have improved durastically in stability though, and I doubt people are seeing many crashes in either OS anymore.

    I've been using Windows 7 RC7100 since it was released, and it's a huge improvement over both Vista and XP. I especially like the new taskbar, although I admit that I still wish it was a little more like the OSX dock. Pinning folders to the task bar is what irks me most because it adds the pinned folder to the right-click menu of explorer.exe which gets pinned to your taskbar instead of creating a new task-bar icon for just the one folder. Ideally, I'd like to be able to pin a folder to the task-bar and have it's contents pop up from it with one click. Instead, I have to right-click the explorer.exe icon, click the folder from that menu and then have the folder open in windows explorer.

    Sat 2009/09/26 09:42:28 JST (ID #722791)
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  • silent1134
    silent1134 in Los Angeles, California (Registered on 2007/08/22)
    ???Confused???

    Still an XP user, don't think I'll be changing that anytime soon....

    Sat 2009/09/26 10:06:41 JST (ID #722797)
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  • Alto50
    Alto50 in U.S. (Registered on 2008/03/22)
    University Student, otaku
    http://chenzen.org

    I've been always been a Windows user, but I have dabbled with OS-X myself before on my PC. I currently have a triple-booting machine (7, OS-X, and Ubuntu), but end up using 7 the most. I think it's partially the fact that I'm just stuck in my ways and partially because all the major video games are only for windows. I do like OS-X's nice, clean feel to it. Aesthetically - OS-X wins hands down, but for me; Windows is still the way to go. Especially with 7 coming out. The beta has been great, and I assume the RTM will be much better. God, I'm so happy to finally get rid of XP.

    Sat 2009/09/26 11:00:29 JST (ID #722799)
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  • nightmarejan
    nightmarejan in the absence of light (Registered on 2009/05/14)
    Graphic Design student/Pest-ridden Jackal of the Earth
    http://kriegtherion.deveiantart.com

    Mac>PC, nuff said.

    Sat 2009/09/26 11:25:27 JST (ID #722802)
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  • 404
    404 (Registered on 2009/09/21)
    http://www.kokul-idk.com

    Windows 7 is a huge improvement over Vista in terms of performance, usability, driver support, etc. It really is a true competitor to the user interface of Mac OS X, and that's saying a lot. I myself have enjoyed using the RC and the beta versions, and I will be upgrading from Vista to Windows 7 in the near future. Thankfully, my university has a deal with Microsoft so that we can get free copies.

    Sat 2009/09/26 11:27:46 JST (ID #722803)
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  • AT1987
    AT1987 in Thailand (Registered on 2007/12/02)
    http://at1987.com

    I'm using Vista Business now. It can run 1 - 2 week without problem or slow down like XP but I won't upgrade to Windows 7 since the OEM package is cheaper than upgrade version in Thailand.

    Today Microsoft Thailand also has the event for blogger in Thailand. I'm going to join it.

    Sat 2009/09/26 11:31:22 JST (ID #722804)
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  • kona.kona
    kona.kona in Singapore (Registered on 2008/10/15)
    Student
    http://konadora.wordpress.com

    I've heard that Windows 7 is a much better of Windows Vista, but there are still some glitches that needs working around. Still sticking with vista for now T__T

    Sat 2009/09/26 11:40:32 JST (ID #722806)
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  • Miri
    Miri in (。◕‿‿◕。) (Registered on 2009/01/30)
    Student
    http://miri.textcube.com/

    I'm using Win7RC - planning to stick with it until February.

    Sat 2009/09/26 11:44:23 JST (ID #722808)
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  • Tauke
    Tauke in Labuan, Malaysia (Registered on 2009/07/06)
    Student
    http://tauke.110mb.com

    My first experience with Windows is 3.1 and from there I've test every new update of Windows (except the server edition). Windows 7 offer the best experience right after a clean installation. Very customizable and of course all the extra touch that reminds me of the Plus! pack series. :D

    Like you said, it boils down to the need of the users and it doesn't matter whether it is a Mac or PC. Most important is we can get the job done. :P

    Sat 2009/09/26 12:22:51 JST (ID #722817)
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  • thebarrett
    thebarrett in California 死の金魚 (Registered on 2008/12/03)
    Gundam Pilot (in training)
    http://www.youtube.com/user/Thebarrett

    i like Linux ^_^; even though i use XP i been playing around with Linux in a Virtual Machine... but the thing i love about windows is the freeware and shareware stuff that people create, although most are viruses, a lot of them are fun apps and games.

    not sure what the Finder is like on Mac, but i found the explorer on XP annoying to use. i recently started using Google Desktop and it has a cool indexing mode which indexes everything on your PC and gives you a nice browse feature, you can type anything in the Google search bar on your desktop and things on your Computer will start popping up if it has a related name. its quite handy ^_^ apparently you can get it on Mac also http://desktop.google.com/mac/index.html

    Sat 2009/09/26 12:47:41 JST (ID #722828)
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  • deuce
    deuce in United States (Registered on 2009/05/15)
    Graphic & Interactive Designer
    http://www.wesmanley.com

    I don't miss the PC at work when I come home to my MacBook Pro. Then again, I don't miss the PC while I am at work since it sits under the desk below a Mac Pro! :)

    Sat 2009/09/26 13:15:01 JST (ID #722834)
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  • Dante-X
    Dante-X in surabaya,indonesia (Registered on 2007/08/09)
    demon hunter
    http://www.j-fan.com

    it's more friendly than vista?
    i heard from info it's don't need higher specification for PC ,now i'm still stuck with XP

    Sat 2009/09/26 14:12:52 JST (ID #722887)
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  • suicchi
    suicchi in osaka, japan (Registered on 2008/11/22)
    research student
    http://osakacchi.blogspot.com/

    got the RC version, planning to try it with Parallels but haven't done so.
    been wanting a mac for years before finally getting one, and loving it that i dropped the japanese phone for an iphone XD (not that it's that related)

    Sat 2009/09/26 17:28:41 JST (ID #723047)
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  • Feylin
    Feylin in Richmond, BC (Registered on 2007/12/13)
    Student

    Lol, I'm already running on Windows 7 Ultimate. Fantastic OS! A hell lot better than vista AND XP. The interface is much cleaner, and easier to manage when handling dozens of windows at a time.

    Sat 2009/09/26 18:04:14 JST (ID #723071)
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  • Cyberchaos
    Cyberchaos in Australia, Sydney (Registered on 2008/02/17)
    NEET part-time - Technical Support Officer - Network security engineer
    http://burugureibi.blogspot.com/

    Y'know, I'm probably just going to go invest in a Mac sooner or later - Ease of use and all
    But i'll still use XP till it completely keels over in a heap of it's own mess.

    Next path is either Mac or Win7 - Whatever my wallet tells me to do

    Sat 2009/09/26 18:04:16 JST (ID #723072)
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  • Syaoran
    Syaoran in Io, Jupiter (Registered on 2009/01/31)
    Otaku, US Army, Student (Political Science)
    http://figure.tsuki-board.net/profile/Syaoran

    Been legally using Windows 7 Ultimate since the MSDN came out ^^ Before that I was using Vista Business since the MSDN of it came out (and loved it over XP). Messing around with Server 2008 R2, ever give Windows Server a run Danny?

    Sat 2009/09/26 19:05:18 JST (ID #723107)
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  • elmimmo
    elmimmo in Tokyo (Registered on 2008/02/07)
    http://elmimmo.wordpress.com

    > in Windows I get a thumbnailed preview of whats inside a folder

    Danny, for Mac OS X, check this out: http://hasseg.org/imageFolderQLGenerator/

    Nah, have not tried it. You will be our Guinea pig :-P

    And no, I have not gone through >100 to see if someone already had recommended it.

    Sat 2009/09/26 19:22:29 JST (ID #723114)
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  • Didotz
    Didotz in Hamamatsu, Japan (Registered on 2009/04/29)
    Certified Trouble Maker, Part-Time Otaku
    http://picasaweb.google.com/adi.widyatmoko?feat=email

    I've been an avid windows user for all my life and scared to move on to mac. but 6 months ago, my fujitsu died in front of me. then i decided to get an "affair" with another one. so i decided to buy a mac. really wanted to have a mac, but too scared to make the change. and now i never regret the choice that i made. although i do agree with danny. windows explorer is the best. i love those tree view and how you can write the address directly in address bar.

    did anybody got trouble with snow leopard? the spaces's transition effect is terrible.

    Sat 2009/09/26 22:43:38 JST (ID #723218)
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    • elmimmo
      elmimmo in Tokyo (Registered on 2008/02/07)
      http://elmimmo.wordpress.com

      Not the answer to all your wishes, but Shift+Command+G (or menu Go > Go to folder…) will give you a text field where you can manually type the address of a local folder.

      Sat 2009/09/26 23:24:07 JST (ID #723240)
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  • LesterHo
    LesterHo in Tokyo, Japan (Registered on 2008/11/16)
    Student
    http://www.lesterho.com

    Am using windows vista now and planning to get myself a MAC next year if possible.

    Sat 2009/09/26 23:34:39 JST (ID #723244)
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  • Vixums
    Vixums in USA (Registered on 2009/08/20)
    Star Gazer
    http://vixums.wordpress.com/

    I'm definitely going to upgrade, I have the beta version on my laptop and on my PC, and I couldn't be happier with an operating system.

    Sun 2009/09/27 00:05:38 JST (ID #723258)
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  • Kevin Nguyen
    Kevin Nguyen in Florida, USA (Registered on 2008/09/18)
    Student
    http://lordofgundams.blogspot.com/

    I had a Vista laptop till the graphics card went down under. When I have the money I'm going MAac bound.

    Sun 2009/09/27 00:21:16 JST (ID #723267)
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  • cobaltleo
    cobaltleo in USA (Registered on 2007/08/23)
    technorat

    I've been running the RC2 of windows 7 and i love it. but i'm also one of the people who never had "ANY" problems with vista. everything i use or wanted ran perfectly on the vista system. I tried windows 7 just to see what my system score would be with the current hardware I had. and decided to try it out since its a 64bit copy. Awesome!

    Sun 2009/09/27 06:26:06 JST (ID #723377)
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  • ArcherNB
    ArcherNB in Planet New Tokyo, Kusari Space (Registered on 2009/06/09)
    Freelancer, Blogger
    http://archersanime.blogspot.com/

    I run Vista Home Premium On My Laptop and Would probably go to windows 7 but i just cannot afford it and really do not have a reason to. I like Vista

    Sun 2009/09/27 08:18:18 JST (ID #723404)
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  • phossil
    phossil in Guatemala City (Registered on 2008/07/22)
    http://twitter.com/phossil
    http://www.animoe.net

    I did the switch to Win 7 when doing the Pre-launch day of Windows in my country. http://bit.ly/4mAaZ
    I am a Windows user since Win95, but didnt like it too much, until Win98 SE, then, the next OS that I liked (and I still do) is XP. I used Vista, but only four months because it was used in the job, but now that Im with Win7 I liked a lot and better keep it and use it. ^^

    Sun 2009/09/27 08:51:04 JST (ID #723418)
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  • circa86
    circa86 (Registered on 2009/09/27)

    Danny, on Snow Leopard you CAN actually short by Date Modified, Size, Kind, etc. by just switching to list view, right clicking on the sort bar, and adding the options you like.

    I can't STAND using the Windows file browser for what I do, when dealing with animation projects and workflow Quicklook alone saves me hours and hours over time. I really don't like the web browser style explorer at all, I much prefer Finder.

    Sun 2009/09/27 11:56:11 JST (ID #723480)
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  • circa86
    circa86 (Registered on 2009/09/27)

    I guess I should say, you can SORT by . . . . . . in the Open/Save dialogue boxes with the instructions above!

    Sun 2009/09/27 11:56:42 JST (ID #723481)
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  • Hamu-Sumo
    Hamu-Sumo in Germany (Registered on 2008/10/12)
    Student in Internet-based Systems

    Downloaded Win7 yesterday (yee-haw MSDNAA). Wanna make my notebook Vista-free. :3

    Sun 2009/09/27 18:11:51 JST (ID #723625)
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  • agcpictures
    agcpictures in La La Land (Registered on 2009/08/14)
    Screenwriter Wannabe

    i always used windows until i took engineering classes undergrad when we had to use macs for some things.. not iwhatever but the old school ones.. nothing sux0red more than spending hours on a problem and then having it say 'uh-oh' and then that stupid little bomb shows up..

    Sun 2009/09/27 18:53:34 JST (ID #723643)
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  • crabdude
    crabdude in Switzerland (Registered on 2008/09/20)
    Student

    I don't have any complaints about XP, it works. My problem is that I like to mess around with settings and tweak little things which ends up corrupting windows or something important ^^;

    Sun 2009/09/27 20:55:31 JST (ID #723700)
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  • Kamui
    Kamui in Orlando, Fl (Registered on 2008/08/23)
    Print media/promotions and marketing

    I've been on Windows 7 for a while now, and float back and forth between Macs and Windows... eh I don't see much difference in 7 yet, infact my lappy with 4 gigs of ram and a nice dual core is actually somewhat sluggish at times! BTW anyone play Luna Online?

    Sun 2009/09/27 22:59:21 JST (ID #723740)
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  • ふぇんりる
    ふぇんりる in 日本の関東 (Registered on 2007/09/03)
    引きこもり

    絶対「窓辺ななみ」を挙げると思ってたので、一言も触れないとは以外だわ。

    Mon 2009/09/28 00:41:06 JST (ID #723776)
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  • Hayden
    Hayden in London, UK (Registered on 2007/01/06)
    Custom Pc Builder, Muppet, Pyromaniac, Demolitions Expert, Guitar Slinger,
    http://myspace.com/dyingoblivion

    Ive been using Windows 7 RTM since it was released. I was testing out build 7100 Prior to that & before that I was on vista ultimate x64 for a year & before that I was on XP x86. however most machines on my network at home are XP based machines which i remotely connect to from my main system when i need to manage them. generally. I got 1 set up as a folding rig, another rig that only handles my downloads & some folding, & another rig thats just for general use for everyone else & a 4th rig is just a back up rig which gets powerd up every now n again to make sure its working & ready to roll incase my main pc went down. which it has twice... first time, my chipset fried. 2nd time my 4870 shorted out.

    Mon 2009/09/28 02:16:50 JST (ID #723798)
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  • Sayoko
    Sayoko in Vancouver BC Canada (Registered on 2008/02/13)
    Graphic Designer
    http://kidd.nu

    I'm using Windows 7 Final 64-bit via a programming friend. It takes a while to get used to, especially if you're jumping from, say, Windows XP but compared to Vista which I have on my laptop, you can really tell there's a performance boost (besides the obvious - the specs of both systems, desktop vs laptop).

    We have to use Macs at school though (being graphic designers and their thing for Macs apparently). Evil little buggers.

    Mon 2009/09/28 06:35:21 JST (ID #723850)
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  • Yesac13
    Yesac13 in Maine, USA (Registered on 2008/01/22)
    Self Employed - Small Business

    Personally, I've had good luck with Vista. However, I hasten to say I'm on Vista Home Premium 64 bit. From what I have read, 64 bit Vista runs much better, especially if you have a stronger computer with plenty of ram. I have had no serious issues with Vista at all. It has been totally reliable for me! Although the 64 bit version is said not to run 32 bit programs well, I have run them with no problems so far.

    However, I may upgrade to Windows 7 just to get rid of the excessive stupid "okay to proceed" clicks I have to do just to run some programs. I need to check to be sure but I think Windows 7 got rid of that dumb crap.

    One special point I have to make that many people may not realize - if you get a new OS, get a full new version, not an upgrade. I've noticed most problems tend to be from people who bought upgrades instead of a whole new OS. To get a full version cheap, buy one new computer hardware then buy the OEM version.

    Mon 2009/09/28 08:13:46 JST (ID #723869)
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    • Triela
      Triela (Registered on 2009/09/06)

      I agree, get the full version of the OS. I ended up shooting myself in both feet and deeply regretted buying the Vista Ultimate 32/64 bit upgrade pack. Before finding a little... loop hole in the installation of the upgrade I had to use XP Pro 32bit and stick with the 32 bit version of Vista when upgrading. Through the loop hole I was able to just use the Vista Ultimate upgrade to install on a blank HD. Still was a royal pain in the backside, and now with all the updates for Vista... still takes the better part of a day to install the OS.

      I've been playing around and loving Windows 7 beta. The 64 bit version works wonders in overall performance over Vista. Remarkably speedy, less stress on system resources, and the games I enjoyed in Vista I enjoy more with Windows 7, as they seem to run faster and smoother. And up until recently when I managed to royally confuse the audio card I've had no blue screens or crashes, its only hung once during the audio card mess.

      As for the Mac line of computers... I hold nothing against Apple, they make some sexy though expensive systems, and one day I'll own a Mac and run both Mac and my PCs side by side.

      Mon 2009/09/28 09:47:30 JST (ID #723902)
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  • Streetpilot1
    Streetpilot1 in Philadelphia, USA (Registered on 2008/04/02)
    Limousine Driver

    I plan on trying it out. If this turns out to be another "Vista" disaster then I'm done with "Windows" altogether.

    Mon 2009/09/28 11:43:40 JST (ID #723957)
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    • Hayden
      Hayden in London, UK (Registered on 2007/01/06)
      Custom Pc Builder, Muppet, Pyromaniac, Demolitions Expert, Guitar Slinger,
      http://myspace.com/dyingoblivion

      Have fun running a mac

      Tue 2009/09/29 03:34:16 JST (ID #724325)
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  • docdre
    docdre (Registered on 2008/08/07)

    They're now selling pre-order offers for Operating Systems?

    Mon 2009/09/28 19:20:04 JST (ID #724155)
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  • Wavehawk
    Wavehawk in Melbourne, Australia (Registered on 2009/07/05)
    Passing-Thru KamenRider

    "This is all DECADE'S fault!"

    Tue 2009/09/29 23:08:25 JST (ID #724667)
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  • \T.J/
    \T.J/ in Vegas (Registered on 2009/09/01)
    NEET/Super hero

    I hear that Windows 7 is just windows vista with a few minor changes, I will stick with XP ;)

    Thu 2009/10/01 15:59:51 JST (ID #725443)
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    • the1iam
      the1iam in 新嘉坡市樟宜区四美町 (Registered on 2007/04/11)
      大学生
      http://the1iam.blogspot.com/

      Yes, but those changes are enough to be better than XP, including fixes that people were complaing about Vista.

      Fri 2009/10/30 01:56:48 JST (ID #736019)
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  • takusan
    takusan in The Land of The Few (Registered on 2009/09/30)
    Hehe, Occupation, really?

    XP forever! Vista was pretty awful, and I remember most of my friends choosing Vista because it looked better. Oh so foolish, remember just downloading a Vista skin for XP, and then removing it again, just because XP rules:)
    I've also used Mac quite a bit, it's fine, but there's just something that annoys me about it.

    Thu 2009/10/01 20:37:58 JST (ID #725517)
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  • Andrei
    Andrei in Romania (Registered on 2009/10/07)
    webmaster
    http://www.animerated.com

    I am using Windows 7 build 7100 by some months and it totally changed my Windows experience. I do things faster, i love the new bar (the preview and the stacks are wonderful) and until now i couldnt find any program that wouldn't run on it. Runs very fast, looks very nice and I cannot tell its an evaluation copy at all. Well, only if i look at the right lower corner of my display. Can you imagine that XP was way slower than W7 on 3 gigs of RAM? Begone XP, I don't want to hear anymore of you, bugger. Windows 7 is not Vista with just some changes. It is Vista tuned and much much faster. It will do wonders on a laptop.

    Thu 2009/10/08 02:10:39 JST (ID #727796)
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  • sung
    sung in NYC (Registered on 2009/04/20)
    DIYBio-er, Student
    http://codexlib.blogspot.com

    Win 7 is a great operating system. Not perfect, but enough to give OS X some serious competition in terms of quality. I suspect that a lot of people who are on xp machines will switch over to win7 pretty soon.

    What win7 doesn't have, is the UNIX backbone of the OS X, which makes working with some of the science specific softwares difficult at best. I just love how you can use fink on OS X and gain access and support to both GNU linux based apps and Microsoft-developed enterprise applications. And shell scripting, don't get me started on that.

    Fri 2009/10/09 23:52:32 JST (ID #728506)
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  • Andrei
    Andrei in Romania (Registered on 2009/10/07)
    webmaster
    http://www.animerated.com

    Sung, you are right but take in consideration that the majority (like 90% of us) do not know even what shell scripting is and we will never try to access both GNU and MS applications on the same OS. Ease of use, speed and friendly interface is what the majority of us will look to find in W7. And home users will be the backbone of the W7 sales. I wait for MS so get rid of the registry in the next Windows.

    Sat 2009/10/10 03:20:51 JST (ID #728591)
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  • Crosse
    Crosse in Ar Ciel (Registered on 2009/10/28)
    Oracle
    http://notebook.seitoukai.net

    This is how I see it:

    Windows: More programs, great for games and system-intensive apps; best suited for entertainment.
    Mac: Less programs, great for focused productivity; best suited for artists and for creatives.

    And yes, it's pretty hard to dodge productivity in Mac since you can't play time-consuming games with it. XD

    Wed 2009/10/28 21:22:40 JST (ID #735547)
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  • the1iam
    the1iam in 新嘉坡市樟宜区四美町 (Registered on 2007/04/11)
    大学生
    http://the1iam.blogspot.com/

    I have tried the beta and RC, and it does work well on my 2-yr old Vista laptop. Won't be buying it until I get a new PC though.

    Fri 2009/10/30 01:55:13 JST (ID #736017)
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