Toyosu Photo Walk

Fri 2008/11/21 14:00 JST
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Its a lovely evening so thought we would go walkies around the Lalaport area at Toyosu - a nice place for shopping, food and an evening stroll.
While we're out n about, I thought we'd have the usual chit chat. Tonight I'd like to talk about 'haters'. I've encountered quite a few in my time and you may have too.

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Haters are folks who hate your very existence for no apparent reason. There you are just minding your own business when a hater appears and starts to do or say things that get on your nut. I used to get depressed by these folks for a while until I realized that they all were a piece of the jigsaw puzzle that was needed to get me to where I am now. We actually need haters.

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I'm going to talk about two particular haters and how they indirectly helped me.
One was a half Korean/Japanese classmate at university who was native-ish Japanese but didn't learn Korean as a child.
During class I spoke to him as a friend but learned from others how he would suddenly bring up the subject of "Hey you know that Danny? He's such an idiot. Why does he need to learn Korean?" I was surprised to learn how much he hated me!

One day in class, while I was struggling reading some Korean text, he suddenly stood up in class and shouted (in Japanese) "Look! Why don't you just study more! You are keeping the whole class behind!"

The experience left me embarrassed and shaking with anger. It's an experience that I don't purposely choose to remember but can recall it like it was yesterday. I read somewhere that emotional experiences can be easily recalled because when one is emotional, some sort of hormone is released which makes it easier to remember experiences and fixes that time and space in memory - this is the reason why most of your emotional memories (sorrow, happiness, anger) can be replayed clearly. Me not an expert on the subject or terminology though.

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Was depressed about the experience but the sadness and anger wasn't doing me any good. I decided to use that energy instead to focus on improving my Korean just as the guy suggested. Spent every ounce of my time learning new grammar patterns and absorbing myself in the language just like I did when learning Japanese. A few weeks after the experience, my effort was beginning to pay off.

The teacher would basically be going over grammar patterns from the textbook that we done homework from but I made sure that I studied a few chapters ahead and also made the use of other text books.
I would be asked to complete a sentence using some new grammar pattern but I would always use new stuff which I studied on my own.

"Very good! Danny! Chal Haesumnida! Everybody, repeat after Danny..." I felt like a kid back in primary school being praised by the teacher for being able to spell "d-o-l-p-h-i-n."
That guys face would stiffen up and turn bright red as he clenched his pen which dug deep into his notebook and I made sure that he didn't have the pleasure of me not looking at him. I guess those who laugh last really do laugh the longest.

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The next hater was a lovely piece of work. We were both hired at the same time and he was chosen to be my boss. Everything seemed to be going well until we started to work with each other. He didn't have any previous management experience and took the "I'm-your-boss-so-shut-up-and-listen-to-what-I-say" model. I had just started out in my career and was fine with that and had no problem with taking orders.

I've always been the one to take initiative and tend to do stuff which I think will benefit the company even though its not necessarily in my job description.
My boss however was the type who just wanted to get work done and go home. He really had no passion for what he was doing. I initially heard him arguing with the General Manager that 7,000,000 yen wasn't enough to support himself, his wife and two kids. I'm guessing that he felt his pay didn't cover managing a subordinate who wanted to do stuff outside his job description.

One day, after reporting back to him on a project that the General Manager was pleased with, he slammed his fists on my desk and shouted "Stop Fu*cking wasting my fu*cking time!" - it was another one of those "in-front-of-everybody-(including-the-cute-office-ladies)" thing. I remember blood rushing to my head and feeling dizzy after. Never been so humiliated in my life. The office was silent and the air tense with the other employees not knowing how to react. I was in tears.

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Feeling sorry for myself wasn't doing any good so I started to look for solutions. By this time, I had also felt that I was outgrowing my role and It was a small company. I soon realized that I needed to explore opportunities outside.

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I started to meet with recruiters who introduced me to many companies. Meeting with these folks helped me grow quickly. My network started to grow over night and I also learned many interviewee techniques. For job positions which I've turned down, the prospective employer would always want to keep in touch. I still keep in touch with recruiters/head hunters and some of them still ask me if I'm available or know somebody who is ^^;

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I also started to learn what my market value was given my skills and experience. Knowing your market value is essential in making a successful career for yourself.

In the end, I had placed myself in a different company but before I left my current company, they fired my boss - not only for treating me like poo on the shoe but also for several other counts of professional misconduct.

I was young at the time and while I knew I was outgrowing my role, I didn't take initiative to look for external opportunities until indirectly pushed by my lovely boss. I thank him for being a piece of my life jigsaw puzzle.

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These days however, my haters are mostly of the online variety.
My theories as to why folks start to hate you are:-

- Human instinct is to protect him/herself. You see this reaction if somebody falls over - their arms naturally extend to protect them from the fall. If a human feels threatened by your existence, they may try to harm you directly or indirectly.

- Humans with low self esteem may find that attacking you makes them feel better about themselves as it 'places them above you.' I notice this *a lot* on the Japanese Internet. Many folks in Japanese society are given the "I'm-your-boss-so-shut-up-and-listen-to-what-I-say" treatment - needless to say that they feel like poo on the shoe when they get home. They then proceed to take it out on people/companies on the Internet with foul language. This form of gang bashing is known as "Matsuri" which literally means "Festival" - a group of folks having a good time bashing others.

- Many humans hate the unknown. And because something is unknown, the only means a hater has to protect themselves is hatred which they try to use to expel you.

I also personally experienced this form of hatred at school too. I lived many of my years bullied by a particular person - the guy who I mentioned before who wanted to smash my head in with a metal bat. I was a quiet weak child who was brought up with foster parents who bullied me at home too - didn't exactly leave me feeling confident at school. Haters took advantage of this fact to make them feel better about themselves.

- Some humans may 'blame' you for how well you are doing at school or in society and see you as the cause of their current predicaments. You do well because of your hard work while others want your abilities (or what you have) by doing nothing. Jealousy is a trait that can even be seen in animals but if they could learn how to feel good about themselves, they need not be jealous of anything or anybody.

- Some humans hate you for not being how they want you to be. In their mind they have already decided how certain sets of humans should behave and when you are being just you and not behaving as they expect, they will hate you because you are not meeting their expectations. They could possibly see this as a threat to them because they don't know how to handle people who are not in their presets.

- Another reason why humans may choose you as a target of hatred is because they use you as a benchmark to 'do better' than you. This is annoying and a compliment at the same time ^^; I see this going on between companies. A particular company that I worked at hated another company and used them as a benchmark.

- Some humans may hate you due to some sort of misunderstanding. I always employ and encourage open communication especially for sensitive topics. If the hater is somebody you care about, take the initiative to try to find out the cause of you being hated as it could be something over something very silly indeed.

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My observations of haters are:-
- Haters linger - they want to know what you are doing/saying and this probably goes back to my theory of them perceiving you as a threat. If you are online, they will visit your site regularly and if your hater is a real life offline hater then they will try to find out what you are up to - could be through mutual friends.

- I have come across many haters who start to believe that things you say or do is directed at them. My theory is that they either want you to acknowledge the hatred that they have for you or gain sympathy or recognition from peers - they so this by picking out something you say or do and believe it is directed at them somehow. This probably makes them feel special which could stem from them blaming you for their current position or situation in society.

- Haters will let as many people as possible know how much they hate you. My theory is that they try to recruit the sympathy of fellows which makes them feel wanted and recognized.

- Online haters never use their real name - they usually hide behind an online identity. Being 'invisible' means that a hater can poke n tease at you without you knowing who they are and this may give them extreme heightened levels of pleasure which may make up for their distress at their current predicament in society.

- People who are initially friends can become your best haters. I have experienced this behavior on and offline. I had a few previous colleagues who started off being friendly and turning into monsters! But at the same time, I knew initial haters who turned out to be incredibly good buddies too.

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So how about me? Who do I hate? Well I used to hate Ichiro (yes Ichiro ^^;) after I saw a clip on TV of him being horrible to fans who traveled to Seattle from Japan to see him. I feel like a complete pratt thinking that I used to hate somebody who is so far away from me and who I don't even know. I don't hate anybody these days because hating people does not really do anything for me. Hating somebody uses up time and some form of life energy which I would rather be using to focus on my own life.

So what should you do about that person at school or work that hates you for no apparent reason? Well there is a reason they hate you but its probably because you are just being yourself and you should never have to change yourself to please them. I tried to change myself to please my bullies by asking them to punch me - they punched but I was never part of their clan and glad I didn't end up like them. Many of my 'friends' ended up turning to the dark side of the force and bullied me to be part of the clan. They never studied and many of them started to do badly in their studies.

If you are on the end of being hated, have a look at some of the reasons above and hopefully there will be some comments of advice too which will help you deal with your situation. You should continue to focus on the things that you need to do that contributes to *your* life. Its still day one for all of us and we are always learning and growing in this game of life. Haters may initially get on your nut but should realize that they are there for a reason and that fate has made them into a piece of your jigsaw puzzle that slowly gets completed as you go through life.

Society has all walks of people and we would never be able to successfully get through life without experiencing haters and learning how to deal with them. Remember that we need haters to help us grow and that they are in your life for a reason. You must work out what that reason is and learn how to deal with them. By understanding that its most probably because they are jealous, scared or need attention will help you define how to deal with them.

What you must not do is spend large amounts of time worrying or thinking about the people who hate you. This is your life and not theirs. You should not waste your precious life on people who hate you and focus on your beautiful life that you have ahead of you.

If you are happy, passionate about what you do and enjoying the variety of life then you will realize how insignificant haters are compared to the wonderful life you have.

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Soooo, the takeaways for this evening is...
- We all need haters. They are invaluable to learning how to deal with similar folk in the future.

- Haters may initially get on your nut but the more haters you experience, the more easily you will be able to deal with them.

- Learn to deal with haters but don't waste your precious life on them - focus on *your* life.

- Learn to deal with haters but never get depressed over them. Do not let them get the better over you.

- Haters can sometimes be a message from fate prompting you to do something.

- Variety is the spice of life. Sometimes the spice has a sharp bitter taste, sometimes its sweet and fragrant. Life would be boring without challenge or variety. Haters are only part of the challenges that we need to experience in life.

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  • Burford
    Burford in the path of a traction engine. (Registered on 2008/05/28)
    Lurker, and part time super-villian.
    http://burfordus.wordpress.com

    Wow... I've never experienced a real 'hater' before, just the childish ones who mocked me for my appearance. Even then I had some reputation so they tended to be hateful in private.
    I cant understand (even with your explanations above) why people would be so irrational to someone they've only just met, it confounds me, and quite frankly amuses me to some extent.

    But still, their loss to your colossal gain.

    Fri 2008/11/21 13:33:06 JST (ID #380580)
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  • lerry[maru]
    lerry[maru] in Kuala Lumpur, MY (Registered on 2008/09/14)
    Nekophilia

    None of my friends turned into monsters so far. ^^ I'm glad I made real good friends.
    Have no experience with haters. Perhaps one day in the future.

    And uhh, is it only me who thought that the blue crane(?) looks like a dolphin's tail? O.o

    Fri 2008/11/21 13:38:42 JST (ID #380583)
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  • punynari
    punynari in Yokosuka, Japan (Registered on 2008/09/20)
    US Navy Sailor
    http://punynari.wordpress.com/

    I do have some people at work that pressure me to do better (sometimes harshly). They lightened up a bit, but it used to be bad. When I first got there, there was someone who I believe did hate me (and even made personal attacks). Mostly because of the attention I was getting from higher ups. When I proved that I was no threat to the hierarchy, I am treated alot better. Alfa Male syndrome. Protecting ones place kind of thing.

    Fri 2008/11/21 13:48:29 JST (ID #380589)
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  • zephi
    zephi in Sydney, Australia (Registered on 2008/04/26)
    student
    http://zephi-san.deviantart.com/

    Danny, is there anything special at Toyosu? Is it a place that is worth visiting during a trip? I like the view of the harbour though.

    I'm sure everyone has haters in their life... Just that most of them don't show it or say it in front of your face.
    I was bullied when I first got into high school. They probably we're doing it to show off or just for a laugh. Apart from that bad start, I eventually got along with everyone in my grade. I hated their guts up until they started to approach me in a friendly manner towards the end of high school.
    I remember one time some annoying kid in a different grade kept saying racists comments. I wanted to punch him the face, but stopped about a centimeter from his face. I can still clearly remember his facial reaction, and he never bothered me again.

    Fri 2008/11/21 13:54:14 JST (ID #380593)
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    • Danny Choo
      Danny Choo in Tokyo (Registered on 2006/12/11)
      CEO MIrai Inc
      http://www.dannychoo.com/profile/eng/

      Toyosu is basically a shopping complex. Probably not for a trip on a tight schedule but recommended for folks who live in Tokyo.

      Fri 2008/11/21 14:10:30 JST (ID #380611)
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  • Cyberchaos
    Cyberchaos in Australia, Sydney (Registered on 2008/02/17)
    NEET part-time - Technical Support Officer - Network security engineer
    http://burugureibi.blogspot.com/

    Very inspirational post Danny
    Definitely learned alot from this post. Will re-read again - bookmarked

    Is there EXIF data attached your photos on flickr? i'd really like to know what settings you put on your camera for those shots.

    Fri 2008/11/21 14:02:29 JST (ID #380595)
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    • Danny Choo
      Danny Choo in Tokyo (Registered on 2006/12/11)
      CEO MIrai Inc
      http://www.dannychoo.com/profile/eng/

      EXIF avail in the wallpaper shots only I think. P setting with ISO at 800.

      Fri 2008/11/21 14:08:44 JST (ID #380607)
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      • Cyberchaos
        Cyberchaos in Australia, Sydney (Registered on 2008/02/17)
        NEET part-time - Technical Support Officer - Network security engineer
        http://burugureibi.blogspot.com/

        Thanks. Did a quick check - seems like you're on 1600

        Wow, the noise on 1600 came out pretty good though. On the 400D, it comes out pretty messy/badly. Canon must've done a great job improving the sensor quality on the 450D

        Fri 2008/11/21 14:27:52 JST (ID #380623)
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  • Blurmage
    Blurmage in Singapore (Registered on 2007/12/28)
    http://blurmage.blogspot.com/

    Woah nice photos, any tips on taking photos in a night scene?

    Anyway on haters, everyone will bound to experience one or more in life I guess.
    It's just how you learn to deal with it really.

    Fri 2008/11/21 14:03:23 JST (ID #380597)
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    • Danny Choo
      Danny Choo in Tokyo (Registered on 2006/12/11)
      CEO MIrai Inc
      http://www.dannychoo.com/profile/eng/

      Look for something to lean camera against if you dont have a tripod.

      Fri 2008/11/21 14:09:09 JST (ID #380609)
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    • Cyberchaos
      Cyberchaos in Australia, Sydney (Registered on 2008/02/17)
      NEET part-time - Technical Support Officer - Network security engineer
      http://burugureibi.blogspot.com/

      Invest in a unipod
      Lightweight and inexpensive. And much easier/faster to setup.

      Also can be used like a walking cane of some sort when you're lazy ^^

      Fri 2008/11/21 14:45:59 JST (ID #380636)
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  • manga
    manga in Sydney (Registered on 2008/06/27)
    Student
    http://bk201.wordpress.com/

    So how's the relationship with that Korean guy and you now? Or have you just shut down all connections?

    I'm glad my school is free of 'haters.' The only haters that we encounter are the 'rival' school down the road who like to call us names, stick the rude finger when their bus passes our bus stop. Funny how they make fun of us, thinking they are better than us, but we beat them academically by a milestone, and in recent times sport :D
    I don't even remember last time I hated a person. Maybe I just find people annoying but I still tolerate it.

    Fri 2008/11/21 14:07:05 JST (ID #380603)
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  • vincento_py
    vincento_py in Kawaguchi, Japan (Registered on 2008/06/16)
    Lover of Akiba!
    http://vincentosshrine.com/

    Thanks Danny for share your experiences, this is just what I need now... Sincerely, thank you!

    Fri 2008/11/21 14:07:12 JST (ID #380604)
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  • InFlames
    InFlames in Germany, West Side (Registered on 2008/01/29)
    Nyoron~

    Woah, that's so awesome. These photos catched really good views of this evening you had. Thanks a lot.

    Fri 2008/11/21 14:11:03 JST (ID #380612)
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  • dans
    dans in Chiba, Japan (Registered on 2007/08/05)
    IT Manager
    http://thumbnail-of-life.blogspot.com/

    I do have people who hate me but I guess it's not as bad as yours.
    I used to go to Toyosu Lalaport because I used to live in Ariake. There is one chinese restaurant there ( don't remember the name ) that sells TanTanMen. I used to go there and had TanTanMen. Delicious.

    Fri 2008/11/21 14:20:06 JST (ID #380617)
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  • soulfringe
    soulfringe in Sacramento California, United States (Registered on 2008/10/25)
    Delivery Driver | Semi-student
    http://www.soulfringe.com/

    I love the photo walks Danny.

    I also hate them, because it makes me want to go to japan even more.

    Fri 2008/11/21 14:21:02 JST (ID #380618)
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    • soulfringe
      soulfringe in Sacramento California, United States (Registered on 2008/10/25)
      Delivery Driver | Semi-student
      http://www.soulfringe.com/

      And after reading the long story I have to say one of your hater accounts was similar to one of my own.

      Years ago when I first went to College, I was taking japanese for a minor (I was planning on a programming major to make GOOD video games, so japan was a must) anyways, in this Japanese class I was a struggling hard, I could not grasp the grammar, and the class was full of nerds/otaku. ( I was only half-otaku at the time).

      So anyways the teacher would call on us to translate a phrase into japanese or vice versa orally. Well because I had such a difficulty, one time the teacher called on me, and I couldn't answer her. After proclaiming "I dont know" a few times, this one scrawny stereotypical nerd you see only in movies started lauing at me saying "oh god its sooo easy" out loud. Well, the rest of the class didn't think it was so funny, because I, who am/was built like the stereo typical jock, popped out of my seat, and slammed my hands on the desk and shouted something like "keep laughing it up little man, and we'll laugh it up some more afterclass". After I did that, he grimaced a facial expression that proclaimed "I think i just pooped my pants"

      I never found it funny to laugh at people if they found something to not be as easy as you. I didn't have the motivation to learn japanese like they did. It was just something I felt I HAD to do. Now of course I WANT to do it.

      Fri 2008/11/21 14:45:35 JST (ID #380635)
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  • Kaori Lolita
    Kaori Lolita in Singapore (Registered on 2007/04/18)
    Student Nurse
    http://kaori-lolita.livejournal.com

    "It's an experience that I don't purposely choose to remember but can recall it like it was yesterday. " <-- totally empathise with that. at least you are able to talk about it now, i guess you've managed to get over it ^^;
    sadly, mine still haunts me and makes me cringe whenever i think about it. ahhh

    Fri 2008/11/21 14:25:43 JST (ID #380621)
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  • UpcomingOtaku
    UpcomingOtaku in Singapore (Registered on 2008/06/27)
    Student
    http://yakisobacup.wordpress.com

    As a quiet guy with lower than average self-esteem, I have at times attracted haters. In fact these periods of being hated tend to correspond to the moments of my life where I was weakest, eg. doing badly at school, Just troubled by problems and so on.

    The first half of my high school life was pretty disastrous because as an introvert I lacked social skills badly and ultimately I had very little friend. Being absent minded at that time did not help. I ended up being bullied by the entire class. They would exclude me from everything, insult my looks and so on.

    Fortunately the later half of high school was better as I finally learned how to make friends and avoid being picked on. However, it was a very harsh experience and to this day I'm still afraid of socialising after being rejected repeatedly in the past.

    Still trying to get over it. Fortunately I never really got punched or anything. ^^

    Fri 2008/11/21 14:27:44 JST (ID #380622)
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  • Alphonse
    Alphonse in Surabaya, Indonesia (Registered on 2008/07/29)
    Electrical Engineering Fresh Graduate

    wao, long reading but worthed...learn something new from this ^^

    "Some humans hate you for not being how they want you to be. In their mind they have already decided how certain sets of humans should behave and when you are being just you and not behaving as they expect, they will hate you because you are not meeting their expectations. They could possibly see this as a threat to them because they don't know how to handle people who are not in their presets."
    >> Jigoku Shojo Mitsuganae 4th eps o_O

    Fri 2008/11/21 14:31:01 JST (ID #380626)
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  • Zakaさん
    Zakaさん in アメリカ?日本かも??( ゚Д゚) (Registered on 2008/11/11)
    王オタク x 天才様
    http://www.zakarius.com/

    I found the pictures to be somehow comforting as I read this... it's like taking a walk and listening.
    I've been reading this blog for over a year (like I said I only just made an account :P) and I don't see how people can hate you for this. All you do is provide entertainment and information, even help, advice, and inspiration to others. Part of the reason I started a site too ^^
    You're very right about the online haters in particular though. I think it makes it easy for them since they don't have to hate to your face or provide a real name or anything, it's like no repercussions. And it's everywhere: message boards, forums, MMOs.

    The important thing, I think, for anyone to remember, is not to hate back, but to wish them better, because it's most likely there is something bothering them to cause such an attitude. True strength is not in biting back, but in self confidence and self improvement from any experience.

    Anyway thank you for sharing your thoughts and inspirations yet again, Danny!

    Fri 2008/11/21 14:31:57 JST (ID #380628)
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  • Eclair
    Eclair in singapore (Registered on 2008/09/19)
    No more NEET, enineering student now...g
    http://saiseki.blogsome.com/

    Haters aren't that much of a problem until they start being violent ^^;; From there on you might feel like taking revenge too cause they did some horrible stuff. Haters online can't really do much except flaming you. I had a few classmates whom I always compete in studying, but they're just rivals ^^;; Hating back the haters only make you feel tired and waste your time. If you worry so much about them then just go online and look at some 2D girls lol.

    Fri 2008/11/21 14:39:39 JST (ID #380633)
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  • Terrorhunt
    Terrorhunt in the Fortress of Solitude. (Registered on 2008/11/15)
    Otaku-in-training
    http://www.flickr.com/people/terrorhunt/

    I can a hater or hated.
    I always exiled myself from everyone when I'm on 'Hater" mode. That way, I'll do less damage to my relationship with my companions.

    Fri 2008/11/21 14:42:44 JST (ID #380634)
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  • aprilius20
    aprilius20 in Malaysia. Physically, at least. (Registered on 2008/10/26)
    Student, part-time Haruhi wannabe (that bit about godhood etc)
    http://www.aprilius20.com

    Interesting boss you had there. I would probably have started laughing uncontrollably, and just make things worse=.="

    Fri 2008/11/21 14:52:00 JST (ID #380638)
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  • quicoto
    quicoto in Spain (Registered on 2007/12/10)
    Blogger
    http://quicoto.com

    Nice pics dude. I hope you'll write a Christmas review with a lot of pics from Tokyo :P

    Fri 2008/11/21 15:16:11 JST (ID #380662)
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  • Sabekuji Kaneda
    Sabekuji Kaneda in Parañaque, Philippines (Registered on 2008/06/21)
    Mechanical Engineering student
    http://sabekujikaneda.multiply.com/

    Ah, haters. I see a lot of these people everywhere. They are like pests and as such they are needed to be exterminated like pests. There's a part in me that wants to see these people suffer, just like how they made the people they hated suffer.

    You have a very high level of self-control Mr Danny. I think I would act differently if I met the same people you met years ago. That Korean guy for example, if he did the same thing to me I would have charged towards him and gave him a good beating. Your self-control astonishes me Mr Danny x_x

    Fri 2008/11/21 15:23:50 JST (ID #380675)
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  • Phenie
    Phenie in Aichi (Registered on 2007/01/08)
    Catgirl Trainer.
    http://www.phenie.com

    Danny... you need to write a motivational book. ^^;

    Once again - the amount that I feel this article relates to my life is amazing, as I read it. it really lights some kind of inspirational flame in my heart. I know I'm going to read over it again and again...

    I've lived with haters for a long time... mainly people who would tell me "you're wasting my life, XXX will never work", "That'll never get you anywhere" etc. At first it really got to me - but now I'm somewhat used to it, and most of the time think it's their jealousy more than anything else - so I think I'm over that set of haters.

    As per usual, thanks for the great article!

    Fri 2008/11/21 15:28:33 JST (ID #380681)
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  • hika
    hika in 蒼天の楽園 (Registered on 2008/07/05)
    SMS隊所属
    http://lightofthedawn.wordpress.com

    Ah the haters theory.. first listened to it in the animax workshop.. but it is really useful when dealing with hater..
    most recent haters issue i can think of is probably the korean artist suicide incident..

    Fri 2008/11/21 15:36:32 JST (ID #380692)
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  • gordon
    gordon in 新加坡 Singapore (Registered on 2007/06/11)
    銀河帝国五〇一軍团 TK/TD 8316 M.E.P.D. Police Sergeant
    http://gordonator.com/

    Hate is a strong word. Hate shouldn't manifest unless one has done a great deal of harm to another person. usually we just get annoyed, irritated or angry at someone but maybe not to the extend of hate. anyway life is short, why waste energy hating someone over petty differences? ^^;

    Fri 2008/11/21 15:38:57 JST (ID #380695)
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  • Altair Hashan
    Altair Hashan in Ljubljana, Slovenia (Registered on 2008/05/18)
    A Real RocknRolla

    Haters don't really hate you Danny. they hate good things. they hope for good stuff, and wishing for good stuff and it didn't happen to them and suddenly you show up having everything they wished and hoped for, so naturally they hate you because they envy you. but thats the point, the more successful you are, the more haters you got. so instead of worrying on how you gonna get rid of 20 haters you need to focus how to get 40.

    Fri 2008/11/21 15:48:32 JST (ID #380703)
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  • Harts
    Harts in Estonia (Registered on 2008/06/02)
    Student

    Helpful and great article, you raise some very good points, Danny:)

    Fri 2008/11/21 15:49:44 JST (ID #380704)
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  • CrazyAnimeTuga
    CrazyAnimeTuga in Portugal (Registered on 2007/01/02)
    Student
    http://animestuff.wordpress.com/

    The only hater I remember is my systems and signals teacher, that guy is a real pain in the ass, I remember me and my friends asking him during a class how to a specific trigonometric function in matlab and the guy just said you guys are already old enough to take care of your selfs. I was like WTF?!?! I paying this son of a b... and this is the answer I get? Plus he wasn't even doing a thing just sitting with his laptop in front of him and doing nothing and we all think he takes pleasure in leaving students behind. What did I do in that class? I picked up my stuff and left

    Fri 2008/11/21 16:00:25 JST (ID #380714)
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  • kwech
    kwech in Japan in March '09! (Registered on 2008/10/06)
    Internet Media
    http://twitter.com/kwech

    Inspirational as always, Danny. We need haters so we can appreciate the good times all the more, right? And thanks for answering the photo settings question above!

    Fri 2008/11/21 16:10:06 JST (ID #380728)
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  • Senn
    Senn in KL/SG (Registered on 2007/04/03)
    Web Designer
    http://insennity.com/

    Dunno anyone who hates me that much or maybe I just chose to ignore them most of the time. True enough, I feel that it's a waste of time to hate someone, so does to "acknowledge" their hates. "yea, you hate me.. and..?", simply can't see any conclusion here. Unless they go violence, that's totally not tolerable. Agree with haters make you grow stronger, provided you know how to deal with the hates.

    Fri 2008/11/21 16:33:55 JST (ID #380765)
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  • Ken.Lam
    Ken.Lam in Tokyo (Registered on 2008/11/21)
    IT Consultant
    http://www.flickr.com/photos/airlambo23/sets/

    Got to commend you in holding back your temper and not going postal!

    When did you take those pictures? Was at Toyosu last Friday and they had some really nice Xmas decorations!

    Like your blog and keep up the good work!

    Fri 2008/11/21 16:43:42 JST (ID #380780)
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    • Ken.Lam
      Ken.Lam in Tokyo (Registered on 2008/11/21)
      IT Consultant
      http://www.flickr.com/photos/airlambo23/sets/

      Oh yeah forgot to mention that there is a excellent Dim Sum restaurant in Harumi not far from there if you miss proper HK style dim sum and not that weird japanese variety!

      Fri 2008/11/21 16:47:18 JST (ID #380783)
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  • cyclo
    cyclo in Singapore (Registered on 2007/12/11)
    Student
    http://animize.wordpress.com

    wow thanks for the advice!

    My neighbour who lives one floor above me hates my family, and possibly the entire neighbourhood for no apparent reason >< A week after I moved in this year, my family started to hear strange knocking sounds from the ceiling in the middle of the night, and subsequently the knocking became almost 24/7. He's the only guy upstairs, so it has to be him; and when we approached him at first, he shouted at us and told us not to show our "f*ing faces" in front of him >_>
    Recently he started to blast his radio all day, and to his demise, it has affected everyone in my block and the next block. Overheard a few cheerful old people talking about it today when I went for a swim downstairs, you have no idea how empowered I felt! The estate management is finally starting to take serious measures against this unemployed chap ^^

    Well, I've learnt to live with the crazy noises for a few months now, guess you're right about how we shouldn't let haters affect our lives, and concentrate on our own lives ^^

    Fri 2008/11/21 17:20:41 JST (ID #380822)
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  • very inspirational indeed and great photos like always. I was wondering when you were going to do another photo walk. I have had a couple of haters in my life and some of them were closer then I thought (my own family). I have had people doubt me my whole life always telling me I can't do this and can't do that. well they just added more fuel to my fire to keep me going. but I will leave those stories to tell in person.

    Fri 2008/11/21 17:21:34 JST (ID #380823)
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  • ar
    ar in A PLACE THAT YOU CAN'T FIND (Registered on 2008/11/16)
    student

    nice background of that photos

    Fri 2008/11/21 17:25:29 JST (ID #380828)
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  • ar
    ar in A PLACE THAT YOU CAN'T FIND (Registered on 2008/11/16)
    student

    nice background of that photos

    Fri 2008/11/21 17:25:41 JST (ID #380829)
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  • Sarith
    Sarith in California, USA (Registered on 2008/07/17)
    Student
    http://fruitjuicy.wordpress.com/

    This was very motivational. Thank you for writing this out.

    Fri 2008/11/21 17:26:58 JST (ID #380832)
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  • lostandfound
    lostandfound in Singapore (Registered on 2007/10/21)
    Hikikomori in the making
    http://supermariabros.deviantart.com/

    I don't think I've met a real life hater before, I'm pretty much accepteed my most people but I do get feel like people are talking behind my back or something... But who cares LOL

    Oh and the hater which got into the same workplace as you, what's he doing now? It would be funny if he found out that your success is due to him hating you...
    If you do meet him say this to him," I earn *bleep*yen every year, how about you?" LOL j/k~

    This post is really good, it tells me that I;ve still got a long way to go and I'm still experince... Thanks for sharing and maybe I could use what you've taught in the future!

    Fri 2008/11/21 17:33:44 JST (ID #380838)
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    • lostandfound
      lostandfound in Singapore (Registered on 2007/10/21)
      Hikikomori in the making
      http://supermariabros.deviantart.com/

      Super typos... Let me re-write everything...

      I don't think I've met a real life hater before, I'm pretty much accepted by most people but I do get the feeling that people are talking behind my back or something... But who cares LOL

      Oh and the hater which got into the same workplace as you, what's he doing now? It would be funny if he found out that your success was due to him hating you...
      If you do meet him say this to him," I earn *bleep* yen every year, how about you?" LOL j/k~

      This post is really good, it tells me that I've still got a long way to go and I'm still inexperinced... Thanks for sharing and maybe I could use what you've taught in the future!

      Fri 2008/11/21 17:41:07 JST (ID #380847)
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      • 6pack
        6pack (Registered on 2008/03/20)
        browsing the nets
        http://otakuposts.blogspot.com/

        no need to retype the typos. i read somewhere that only the first and last alphabets are required to recall a word. middle alphabets can be jumbled and we will still read it properly.
        eg: soemwehre, aplhabets, mddile, jmubeld, and so on.

        Fri 2008/11/21 20:25:05 JST (ID #380982)
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  • Tiny Red Man
    Tiny Red Man in Tiny Red Dot, Singapore. (Registered on 2007/04/11)
    free lance otaku, full time Protector of Peace.

    i hate haters as they are always bullying the weak.. and somehow, i'm always trying to protect the weak =/ So, for me, i try not to hate anyway unless i really think that there's some problem with that guy (either he's too lazy to even help himself and expect others to help him or he hardly contribute to the community)..

    Hmm.. does that unknowingly make me a hater too?

    Anw: my personally experience with haters always ended up with me having to ignore them. In my term, "firewall" them. Treat them as transparent and just ignore them totally. even if they come and find trouble with you, fire them back a little and they will somehow back off. (sometimes, you might have to learn how to show your fire just a tiny little bit before they start hunting their next prey).

    Fri 2008/11/21 18:11:21 JST (ID #380872)
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  • Deathy
    Deathy in Brazil (Registered on 2007/04/20)
    Photography Student
    http://hugodeathy.deviantart.com/

    Very nice post Danny, I'll bookmark this and show to a few friends who suffer/suffered bully. Thanks for sharing your experience.

    Fri 2008/11/21 18:16:35 JST (ID #380875)
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  • tenrou
    tenrou in Honolulu, HI (Registered on 2008/04/16)
    流浪人

    Haven't had any real haters in a couple of years...I've found that most haters eventually start failing at life (the negative attitude effects everything they do), and drop out of my radar over time...at the position I'm at now (in the military), you really start to weed out most of those types of folks...

    However, experienced quite a few in the past...can't be helped; just live and learn... ^_^

    Fri 2008/11/21 18:22:44 JST (ID #380880)
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  • jbhannah
    jbhannah in Tempe, AZ (Registered on 2008/03/18)
    Student, webpenguin/designer, programmer, Mac addict
    http://jbhannah.net

    That first pic reminds me of Half Life 2 for some reason…good time for a friendly reminder, don't go out into the sewers or canals late at night without taking proper anti-zombie and anti-Combine precautions to protect yourself.

    Fri 2008/11/21 18:52:08 JST (ID #380907)
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  • marvin
    marvin (Registered on 2006/12/24)
    http://www.marvinryan.com

    reading your article and ending up not looking at the images. ^^ had to go back and look at the images after reading. ^^;
    never really got bullied the way you had, but did have haters. a close friend of mine back when I was still in School. since I used to consider him a very good friend, he knew almost everything about me. unfortunately he used that info to stab me at the back, spread nasty rumours and make up stories about me. like you said he worked by gaining sympathy or recognition from our peers, and bending them to share his views of me. of course he succeeded in conditioning some of my friends to hate me, not that I give it much thought these days, I'm not sure if it's right or wrong, but I often choose to ignore these people, rather than waste my energy hating them back. these days however the guy who first hated me has started being friendly, although I bear no ill will towards him, I wouldn't put so much trust on the person. unfortunately though some of those folks he converted then seem to still linger on their hate. ^^;

    btw what's that "T" shaped structure with the Christmas lights? is it a landmark/monument or just a crane with lights? ^^

    Fri 2008/11/21 18:56:15 JST (ID #380912)
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  • Quen
    Quen in ニューヨーク (Registered on 2008/08/13)
    http://www.sankakucomplex.com/

    Nice pictures, make me ashamed of having such a lowly point and shoot myself.

    Maybe I should think about going for a SLR sometime in the future...

    Good thing I'm brooding and anti-social enough to not get involved much with those sort of people ^^

    Fri 2008/11/21 19:01:32 JST (ID #380919)
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  • Cavalock
    Cavalock in Singapore (Registered on 2008/02/23)
    Editor
    http://cavalock.blogspot.com/

    Another well written post Danny. Thanks, I kinda needed to read something like that. Yah, got haters in my workplace. But i try not to write or blog bout them, or things that depress me. hah

    Fri 2008/11/21 19:11:32 JST (ID #380932)
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  • bell
    bell in singapore (Registered on 2008/04/02)

    A very good read.
    Thanks for sharing your insights, Danny
    They are always around(the haters) and will be always around. So far I just ignore them, they haven't stepped over the line for me to blow my top at.

    Fri 2008/11/21 19:23:02 JST (ID #380946)
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  • Jotham
    Jotham in Los Angeles, CA (Registered on 2008/03/08)
    Student
    http://yellowguy89.blogspot.com/

    I've always thought of haters, or simply, people who do not like me are just obstacles. I dont pay much attention to them, which makes them more angry. But in the end you've assured me its for the better. Thanks for that input. I'll keep that anger and use it as my drive to...strive haha...
    Nice pictures too

    Fri 2008/11/21 19:37:29 JST (ID #380955)
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  • Matsu
    Matsu in Singapore (Registered on 2008/01/18)
    Popular Culture Vulture

    Spot on Danny. Another great piece. I think there is a fine line between "hate" and "like" - that's why some of these "haters" become buddies later on in life. I had bullies in school who make fun of my name and I never reacted - physically anyway - and was really glad not to.

    Fri 2008/11/21 19:38:48 JST (ID #380957)
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  • tueac
    tueac in Singapore (Registered on 2008/08/23)
    Fresh Diploma Grad... enlisted.. Cpl soon I hope...
    http://splifearts.com

    My friends Hated you, yes you Danny Choo, because you are living their aspired to be Perfect Life!...

    Btw i got approval to put the Animax promotion video online... YAY

    Fri 2008/11/21 19:54:57 JST (ID #380965)
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  • MARl0
    MARl0 in United States (Registered on 2007/11/16)
    Graphic Designer

    I had a hater at my last job. My supervisor had a very bizarre and unnatural hatred for me. I was the best designer there, and I knew all the adobe programs better then anyone there. I was basically the "go to" guy for nearly everyone, and honestly pretty much ran the department. I think she probably had an inferiority complex and was intimidated that I was better at running the department then she was, so she was always gunning for me. And then last April, she finally got her wish. When the company needed to lay off a couple people, she recommended that I be the first one to get the axe. And sadly, because she was in a higher position then me, the boss took her word for it and let me go. It was really sad, because he seriously let go the best employee he had in that entire department, all because he trusted a completely dishonest employee of his. -_-

    Fri 2008/11/21 20:09:02 JST (ID #380972)
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    • Smithy
      Smithy in Neo-Venezia (Registered on 2008/05/20)
      ~Undine~
      http://bluebluewave.wordpress.com

      That sucks. I'm not unfamiliar with this type of situation so I know a bit how it can be hard to cope with.
      Hopefully you found or will find a better job at another company! ^^

      Fri 2008/11/21 21:20:02 JST (ID #381029)
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    • Danny Choo
      Danny Choo in Tokyo (Registered on 2006/12/11)
      CEO MIrai Inc
      http://www.dannychoo.com/profile/eng/

      How about your job now? Are you in a better position?

      Sat 2008/11/22 13:32:52 JST (ID #381745)
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    • Akidora
      Akidora in KL, Malaysia (Registered on 2008/09/02)
      NEET

      Don't worry, it's their loss not yours. Since you're so talents you could easily get a better job (^_^)V

      Mon 2008/11/24 07:08:08 JST (ID #383674)
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    • tymmur
      tymmur in his top secret nuclear bunker (Registered on 2008/01/20)
      Mad scientist

      I think this is a fairly common scenario. The people who wants to be the centre of things, controlling everything and everybody and "my word is law" mentallity tend to aim for being managers. If a company gets managers like that without realising it, then it can kill a healthy company since the company can't be worth more than the people in it, at least not in the long run.

      I once had a boss like that. He split everybody into groups of 1-3 people and then he made up lies to keep the groups apart. This way he actually managed to really be the big boss and the rest of us couldn't do anything about horrible leadership and complete lack of skills from his part. Needless to say I got away from that place ASAP. I even had a fight with the boss most likely because he realised that I realised he was lying.
      Today there is a general warning about this guy at uni. He is working hard on catching students who needs "field experience" to continue the studies and he is totally exploiting those he catch (like demanding a lot, long working hours and trying to completely avoid paying). I didn't have anything to do with that warning but since it comes from other people telling the professors about their experiences then I guess it's good that I got away when I had the chance. Also I learned that I should watch out for bosses and not stay anywhere with a bad boss. It also told me that being in a union can be important, specially when the boss decides on no paycheck.

      Mon 2008/11/24 13:27:48 JST (ID #383986)
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  • Neku
    Neku in Surrey BC Canada NA Earth (Registered on 2008/06/01)
    Vampire
    http://feeout.blogspot.com/

    To be truthful I never encountered a notable 'hater' irl... on the internet for sure but that doesn't really count everyone hates on the internet.

    But I do hate the company Telus ^.^ I'm letting everyone know that they have absolutely horrible costumer service. That is all.

    Fri 2008/11/21 20:15:53 JST (ID #380976)
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  • 6pack
    6pack (Registered on 2008/03/20)
    browsing the nets
    http://otakuposts.blogspot.com/

    hmm, nice article. had to look at the pics again since i didn't notice them the first time. haters are a part of like i think. i just ignore them, but i felt bad when i was younger and used to get depressed a lot. now i just mind my own business.

    and that "I'm-your-boss-so-shut-up-and-listen-to-what-I-say" model is very much prevalent here in india too. all companies i worked for had such people there who would get annoyed if something they didnt think was told to them. i suppose they suffer from a very big ego problem.

    i think i hated someone when i was young, but forgot why and then stopped hating altogether a long time back. also know many people (relatives) who hate me cause i'm the only poor guy among our them.

    Fri 2008/11/21 20:37:29 JST (ID #380992)
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  • Alafista OTAKU
    Alafista OTAKU in Singapore (Registered on 2006/12/25)
    Policy & Research Officer
    http://www.alafista.com/

    Another nice piece of inspiration article. I never let haters bother me thought. They spend all the time trying to think of hateful things while I just happily going along enjoying my life.

    On another note, your tips on networking and speaking to folks really helps. In the past, I just stood at one corner and waited for people to approach me and introduce themselves and few things came out of them. As I started to meet more people now, I've started to build my own confidences as well. Its just feels great to meet someone that says "Oh you're XXX, I read your blog".

    Fri 2008/11/21 20:38:37 JST (ID #380996)
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    • marvin
      marvin (Registered on 2006/12/24)
      http://www.marvinryan.com

      seeing how all of you learned so much on Danny's talk makes me wish I had flew over there to join in. ^^

      Sat 2008/11/22 16:14:13 JST (ID #381845)
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  • litokid
    litokid in Toronto, Canada (Registered on 2007/11/25)
    university film student | ecchikid | the Archivist
    http://www.vimeo.com/longhim

    "Are there haters in your life?" That's a difficult question to answer.

    Overt haters, no. I was quiet back in high school, and just a bit more outgoing now that I'm in University, but either way I get along with everybody - at least on the outside. I have many acquaintances and few real friends, but everyone likes me well enough that if anyone started hating on me they'd find themselves friendless real quick. I know there's a hater near me, but we like each other enough as people...just not colleagues. Long story, that. To any prospective filmmakers, co-directing is good for only one thing: losing friends.

    I did have a hater in high school - my photography teacher. I was easily the best student in that class, including the teacher himself. I was unfailingly polite and respectful, but the whole class knew it was true. He began picking on me in class, pointing out mistakes that sometimes weren't mistakes, giving me lower marks for no good reason and going out of his way to make my life miserable. When talking with other media arts teachers, he would acknowledge my talent, but I'm not sure if that had to do with the fact that the other teachers loved me.

    I suppose he felt the need to be dominant and alpha male in his own class. It was such a childish display though that the entire class actually lost respect for him, and I myself began addressing him politely in veiled, defiant insults.

    Fri 2008/11/21 21:20:54 JST (ID #381030)
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  • Makoto
    Makoto in Centreville, Virginia (Registered on 2008/09/10)
    Kendo Kid / 大学生
    http://makocat.deviantart.com

    The lastest hater I've encountered was on the forum for my university's anime club. Her name was Tofu, probably of Japanese heritage, and she was extremely against my starting of my Japanese Club. I didn't fight back but tried to grasp what, between her flaming, she was trying to say. At the end I understood that she assumed I would find people for my japanese club by visiting an anime forum; stereotyping basically.
    It wasn't my intention but I understood where her fury came from. I left my last remarks about my true intentions and I apologized if she assumed otherwise. I went on my marry was and made a club that I enjoy to this day. I don't step foot in the anime club because I do fear a weird experience with Tofu.

    Fri 2008/11/21 21:26:11 JST (ID #381034)
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  • Smithy
    Smithy in Neo-Venezia (Registered on 2008/05/20)
    ~Undine~
    http://bluebluewave.wordpress.com

    A very nice article, quite inspirational and what you say is a truth based on invaluable experience.

    I have not met that many haters irl, on the Internet there seem to be tons more, and their numbers have grown this past decade such that at times it seems the Internet is a haven for haters and people just seeking to insult or harm others, very sad.

    On another note, those photos are truly amazing, beautiful!
    You took those with your DSLR and custom settings it seems. Did you rea dup on any guides or done workshops to be able to make such photos or does it come with trial and error?

    Fri 2008/11/21 21:26:19 JST (ID #381035)
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  • Barsona
    Barsona in Bay Area, California (Registered on 2007/08/03)
    NEET (no, student, AND employed min. wage)
    http://otterhangar.blogspot.com/

    "We all need haters. They are invaluable to learning how to deal with similar folk in the future."

    This has been bugging me... Sure mistakes need to be made in order to progress development in society, but there comes a point where so much exposure to hate can leave one desensitized -for instance me. I am, as of right now, desensitized to all things related to race, nationality/ethnicity, religion, politics, and sexual preference -thank you South Park and friends for screwing with me. I know they are wrong to say, but I really don't give a crap any more.

    I mean, I am definitely toned down from my high school days -where I was literally angry all the time-, but I am still angry at society. If anything, I am pretty much a hater to all those who push me the wrong way.

    Fri 2008/11/21 22:09:29 JST (ID #381069)
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  • Yaku
    Yaku in Chinatown, Los Angeles, USA (Registered on 2008/08/27)
    Student, part-time slave
    http://yakuri.wordpress.com/

    Agggg~ as a korean descendant I am ashamed of that korean-japanese person for getting on your nuts. It was his own fault he didn't study enough and harassing you was uncalled for. I hope it didn't live a bad impression of koreans, half or not.

    I've had my haters and truly the best haters can be your closest friends (which sucks because you consider them your friends and sometimes can't really hate them). That's why nowadays I have a very hard time making new friends, since I go into it half-wary of them.

    Fri 2008/11/21 22:39:29 JST (ID #381099)
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    • tymmur
      tymmur in his top secret nuclear bunker (Registered on 2008/01/20)
      Mad scientist

      I can inform you that I have nothing against Koreans. It wouldn't be fair to judge a whole nation based on my encounter with one Korean who acted really weird/stupid.

      I once encountered this Korean girl on a winter night (like 10 pm). She was running down the street (right in the middle of the street, not on the sidewalk) wearning nothing but night clothes and it appeared to be a really thin dress. She was talking nonsense but eventually we got out of her that her boyfriend dumped her and had run away when she didn't accept that he left her (she quoted him to have called her bitch, whore, unfaithful and so on). Now she was looking for him but didn't know where he was anymore. We had to take care of her or she would freeze to death (remember she was wearing nearly nothing and had bare feet and it was like -5°C). While driving her home she spotted her ex-boyfriend and left the car even before I had time to completely stop. He looked like a up-to-no-good type who were looking at houses to figure out which one to break into (I guess he presumed he had lost her at that time). I really didn't want to let her go for her own good but she could charge me for abduction if I didn't let her go when she requested it >.<
      Considering how she acted she would have charged anybody who prevented her from reaching her exboyfriend even if it would have been somebody saving her from drowning or something. She really had left all common sense.

      I never saw or heard from her again.

      Truely a sad story but I'm not thinking that Koreans in general lacks judgement to take care of themselves.

      Mon 2008/11/24 13:53:56 JST (ID #384012)
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      • Yaku
        Yaku in Chinatown, Los Angeles, USA (Registered on 2008/08/27)
        Student, part-time slave
        http://yakuri.wordpress.com/

        You are right, that girl is most probably touched in the head and has nothing to do with Koreans as a whole (was she really Korean? unless she spoke Korean at some point I don't assume all asians are korean).

        I judge because as my own heritage and being in touch with my heritage country people I have encountered that kind of person Danny talked about. It's sad to say said person was one of my best friends.

        Wed 2008/11/26 20:52:53 JST (ID #387073)
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  • silent1134
    silent1134 in Los Angeles, California (Registered on 2007/08/22)
    ???Confused???

    I've only had to deal with a hater once during elementary school and it was a real long six years...though we started out as friends, he just one day decided to hate my guts for no apparent reason and would not explain why...with each passing year he just became more of a arrogant and egotistical prick that picked on those that was not as "smart" as him...

    Nice motivational piece Danny...helps a lot with dealing with those hater types...and the night views are lovely, wish I could say the same about my neighborhood...

    Fri 2008/11/21 23:32:47 JST (ID #381135)
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  • Hidden Oasis
    Hidden Oasis in California, United Sates (Registered on 2008/10/28)
    College Freshmen

    Luckily for me, I've never had to experience that stuff. I've never really seen bullies in my elementary school, high school, or college.

    Fri 2008/11/21 23:33:56 JST (ID #381137)
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  • memoriesoffaddict
    memoriesoffaddict in CA (Registered on 2008/10/30)
    University Student

    True that friends later turn into some type of haters. I had one at then end of high school, finally showed what he thought of me. Didn't really understand though because his grades were better than mine, but i believe it was because of my religion and lifestyle. He hated my religion saying my family were traitors to our ancestry, I guess my lifestyle was better than his because his parents divorced in our last year and he always asked to borrow my games,anime's, n stuff(if i say no he would come over to my house knowing I was too nice to say no after that and have him leave in 2 mins looking stupid). Well i guess it was a great experience though because I did get a lot smarter due to him(he+I had a friendly competition with our test scores,he probably got better scores out of it too for i always felt that he wanted to be higher than me). Do I hate him at the end, well used to because I felt he used me to borrow my stuff n stab me in the spine after HS is over, but not now I shrugged it off after a 2 weeks no use staying mad about what had already happened.

    Sat 2008/11/22 00:18:41 JST (ID #381173)
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  • Key-Ta-Rho
    Key-Ta-Rho in Germany (Registered on 2008/03/26)
    University Student

    Was a little bit bugged back in school by some cool guys who were jealous i guess.First one of them bugged me for weeks until i once just said "Shut the f*** up" while a teacher heard it and then one day one of them kicked my nose slightly and not really on purpose, which started bleeding a little bit only seconds before class began. I didn´t say a word, cuz they raelly honestly apologized and it was not that bad at all, and from that day they turned to be almost admiring me.

    Sat 2008/11/22 00:28:40 JST (ID #381178)
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  • chun
    chun in need to be in bed (Registered on 2007/01/09)
    part time illustrationist, doll clothing seamstress
    http://puppy52art.com/

    Hmm feeling you there on some good friends becoming haters bit, thank you for sharing how you deal with your haters tho :) I guess looking at things in positive way is probably the best way to deal with it!

    Sat 2008/11/22 00:47:03 JST (ID #381189)
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  • Anonymous Tea Drinker
    Anonymous Tea Drinker (Registered on 2008/11/13)

    There are seriously people out there who haven't experienced a hater? That's...well, considering my own experiences, that's surprising.
    I've experienced plenty of haters, quite often due to differences between myself and others.
    So many haters, so little time... The ways I deal with them really depends on the situation though. In the most basic of situations, back in high school, there was this "bully" who was simply an ignorant dolt. He would basically pick on anyone better than he (which was nearly most of the school). One day, while walking through the hall, he started kicking my guitar case. My simple solution: beat him with my guitar case. I don't think he bothered me again, but I also broke the handle on my guitar case (which I later fixed).

    Of course, simply retaliating isn't always the best answer. In many situations, it's preferable just to ignore the haters. I had this one terrible job...I had to work with this one guy who had been working there for a little longer than me who thought he was my boss. He was so incredibly lazy most of the time, and whenever something difficult came up that he had been told to do, he tried to pass it onto someone else. I tried being cordial. I tried cooperating with him. Eventually, I just ignored him, which was one of the greatest things ever. That guy craved attention and having people listen to him, so when another coworker and I simply started ignoring him, he basically fell apart. Luckily, I got to see that before I left that job a month later (it was simply an annoying job).

    Of course, other haters in my life have been the type to try to discourage me for whatever reason. Some people hate me because academics are easy for me, while others don't like my interests. Some people simply hate others who aren't exactly like they are. Often, the best thing to do is to ignore those people who try to hinder your progress. Your own opinions should matter more than theirs.
    There are even the haters who hate me because I'm actually trying to better my life by getting through college. There are those out there who shun a good education, because they themselves don't have one. It's just ridiculous.

    Sat 2008/11/22 01:10:10 JST (ID #381220)
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  • Larein
    Larein in California, USA (Registered on 2008/10/23)
    A person who draws things.
    http://lala-larein.blogspot.com/

    Oh, this was definitely a interesting read. I haven't really had to deal with haters so, hopefully that's how things will stay. ^_^' But everything you wrote is right and can be applied to other situations too.

    Sat 2008/11/22 01:25:33 JST (ID #381232)
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  • Meimi132
    Meimi132 in Stuck in the void between the net life and real life. (Registered on 2007/12/03)
    Student, Otaku, She-Geek(Sheek lol)
    http://meimi132.wordpress.com/

    Those two haters sound like utter bastards... I've never had people shout at me like that before...to my memory at any rate... I might have blocked it out... who knows... I usually have a mild dislike for people, it's never as strong as hate. I jokingly hate people, actors usually, like Tom Cruise...(He at his wifes placenta!!!! And he has a giant ego....bah...) I used to dislike Ben Affleck untill I saw him in Dogma.(AWESOME movie.)
    I hate those who base oppinions and judgements on appearences only. Those are people I do actually hate... chavs too... but probably only british people will know what a chav is....

    Sat 2008/11/22 01:44:23 JST (ID #381261)
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    • Meimi132
      Meimi132 in Stuck in the void between the net life and real life. (Registered on 2007/12/03)
      Student, Otaku, She-Geek(Sheek lol)
      http://meimi132.wordpress.com/

      I completely forgot to comment on the photos themselves.... to engrossed in reading... Cities at night are so lovely.
      You'll have to show us the christmas lights when they're up in Tokyo!!!
      I can't wait for the lights to go on here.

      Sat 2008/11/22 01:47:39 JST (ID #381265)
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    • Melo
      Melo in stitutionalized (Registered on 2008/04/14)

      I have to agree with you on actors/celebrities. I don't hate them but I'm generally disinterested or just turned off by how plastic some of them can be. When I saw Tom Cruise jumping on the couch (and who hasn't) I didn't think he was crazy like some people. I just thought it was tacky how orchestrated that whole thing seemed. But generally I tune out anything Hollywood.

      Mon 2008/11/24 07:44:18 JST (ID #383704)
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  • Kabuklu
    Kabuklu in Istanbul, Turkey (Registered on 2008/06/18)
    Student

    In fact it's impossible to be loved by everybody, there will always be people who hate/don't like me even if I become a saint. And the interesting part is people really don't need a reason to hate anyone most of the time. Marilyn Monroe said something somewhat relevant to this: "...if they love you that much without knowing you, they can also hate you the same way". I'm not talking about the first part of the sentence but the second part really makes sense, people just don't need a reason sometimes.

    Sat 2008/11/22 01:48:43 JST (ID #381268)
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  • Andrei-kun
    Andrei-kun in California, USA (Registered on 2008/10/23)
    Student
    http://andreijournal.blogspot.com

    I don't have actually too much haters outside because I tried not to attract one. We know that haters gives us indirect help, but I guess in all of this years I'm living, I prefer to learn by myself, without actually affecting anyone except me. I just like to enjoy what I'm doing now which is the same as the fellow colleagues here.

    Sat 2008/11/22 02:11:40 JST (ID #381281)
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    • Andrei-kun
      Andrei-kun in California, USA (Registered on 2008/10/23)
      Student
      http://andreijournal.blogspot.com

      Comments on the pics.
      I like the lighting for the tower(?) Is it crane? XD
      Nice article Danny, I hope for you that someday, the negative feelings would be deleted. :D
      uhhhhhhh 将来を見てください。 <-- This was just a copy from Google Translate. XD (sorry)

      Sat 2008/11/22 02:19:39 JST (ID #381291)
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  • :katie:
    :katie: in United States (Registered on 2008/08/07)
    High School Student
    http://suzumiyaharuhinodan.blogspot.com

    Thank you Danny. This really lightened my mood ^^

    Sat 2008/11/22 02:30:49 JST (ID #381302)
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  • lightningsabre
    lightningsabre in Vancouver (Registered on 2007/08/30)
    Pseudo-Graphic Designer, 触手 wrangler, H-Man
    http://lightningsabre.blogspot.com/

    Hmm, I've been keeping my friends at quite a length. I'm just not a social person. If I do have a hater, then I wouldn't know it.

    I'm afraid I may be a hater, but I don't show it to them or talk loudly like that in public. I keep to myself. Maybe "hater" is too strong of a word, a "disliker" sounds better for me. Some of the people I dislike is because of their work habits. They go only for the easy jobs and leave the hard ones for others and some just constantly talking on the phone for a personal call, and another just now was looking up travel plans since it's vacation time starting tomorrow. I dislike these attitudes very much, but I try not to let it get to me. If anything, I'm slowly following their habits, which is VERY BAD for me. I don't want to develop these bad habits, but I can't help it... when people aren't working like they're supposed to, how does that make you feel when you're trying to work hard?

    Pardon the rant... I am at work when it's not my regular day, and it's not putting me in a good mood at all.

    Sat 2008/11/22 03:55:17 JST (ID #381376)
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    • marvin
      marvin (Registered on 2006/12/24)
      http://www.marvinryan.com

      having that king of workplace is hard. but I think there was one of Danny's post that might help you. he talks about a life goal, this might help you focus on your work. I'll see if I can find it, it's probably embedded in one of his photowalk or week in Tokyo posts. ^^;

      Sat 2008/11/22 17:18:34 JST (ID #381886)
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    • marvin
      marvin (Registered on 2006/12/24)
      http://www.marvinryan.com

      whoops my mistake it was in a post of its own:
      http://www.dannychoo.com/adp/eng/327/Destination.html

      Sat 2008/11/22 17:26:41 JST (ID #381891)
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      • lightningsabre
        lightningsabre in Vancouver (Registered on 2007/08/30)
        Pseudo-Graphic Designer, 触手 wrangler, H-Man
        http://lightningsabre.blogspot.com/

        Wow thanks for looking that up Marv. That was from sometime ago 0.o

        I guess I haven't made my own destination yet, just so many options and not enough motivation to do it. Someday I'll really have to because I really am sick of these things at work.

        Sun 2008/11/23 05:45:22 JST (ID #382376)
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    • GNdynames
      GNdynames in Toronto, Ontario (Registered on 2008/07/29)
      Student, Bioresearch Assistant, WAVE VP Communications
      http://gndynames.wordpress.com

      I'm the exact same kind of guy. I *strongly* dislike those who always seek the easy way through life's problem (especially since I landed myself in a pretty hardcore program), so you can pretty much imagine what happens when I find out someone who barely puts effort into stuff ends up with better grades than me.

      Sun 2008/11/23 07:35:02 JST (ID #382478)
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      • GNdynames
        GNdynames in Toronto, Ontario (Registered on 2008/07/29)
        Student, Bioresearch Assistant, WAVE VP Communications
        http://gndynames.wordpress.com

        by problems I mean school related problems. Quite sad the fact that aside from anime and school I know nothing else.

        Sun 2008/11/23 07:36:32 JST (ID #382481)
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        • lightningsabre
          lightningsabre in Vancouver (Registered on 2007/08/30)
          Pseudo-Graphic Designer, 触手 wrangler, H-Man
          http://lightningsabre.blogspot.com/

          You're still learning and still young, still got lots ahead to learn and know about stuff... whereas I'm getting quite old and done nothing with my life. I wish you luck with that hardcore program. But damn you're doing lots of stuff too, like translating that Fate project. Really awesome!

          I've gotten soft and complacent that I get too comfortable at this stupid job. >_< Someone make a good anime motivational poster for me plx? XD

          Sun 2008/11/23 08:18:18 JST (ID #382512)
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  • Evo00
    Evo00 in United Kingdom (Registered on 2008/11/03)
    Casshern - Student

    Looks so amazing. I want to visit Japan some time But currently don't have the money at the moment to go with me being a student and all those University Fees

    Sat 2008/11/22 03:56:08 JST (ID #381377)
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  • uncreative
    uncreative in Japan (Registered on 2008/08/15)
    Student
    http://www.flickr.com/photos/dramacd/

    Escapism really helps you take your mind off of haters.

    Sat 2008/11/22 04:49:52 JST (ID #381422)
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  • Nathan
    Nathan in Atlanta, GA, USA (Registered on 2007/08/22)
    student

    Thank you Danny! This specific kind of information on dealing with haters is very important to me. Not really for my own sake, but for my younger brother. He has experienced "hating" much more than I have, and I really need to give him great advice about it. I'm going to send this to him now!

    Sat 2008/11/22 05:09:52 JST (ID #381430)
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  • Coco the Bean
    Coco the Bean in Northern California (Registered on 2008/01/06)
    Pokemon master
    http://thecococafe.wordpress.com/

    Thank you for this wonderful article.
    I don't think there are people actively hating on me, of if there are any they're pretty quiet about it. Then again I don't stand out too much, so maybe the haters just haven't discovered me yet lol.
    "Haters linger - they want to know what you are doing/saying and this probably goes back to my theory of them perceiving you as a threat. If you are online, they will visit your site regularly and if your hater is a real life offline hater then they will try to find out what you are up to - could be through mutual friends."
    - I see this all the time, especially online. I swear, some people must get half of their hits/pageviews from people who hate them.

    Sat 2008/11/22 05:37:45 JST (ID #381457)
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    • Coco the Bean
      Coco the Bean in Northern California (Registered on 2008/01/06)
      Pokemon master
      http://thecococafe.wordpress.com/

      OOoh wait, I do have a hater. My sister's bird. (I refuse to acknowledge him as my own D< ) I know he hates me, but he's only friendly to me when my sister's not around, and uses me to get pats on the head. When my sister's around he won't let me pet him and just squawks at me.

      I don't actually hate him though, more like I'm tsundere when it comes to my bird. I-I mean, my sister's bird. I don't have a bird! >.<

      Sat 2008/11/22 05:53:47 JST (ID #381471)
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  • blackcrescent
    blackcrescent (Registered on 2008/10/09)
    hobo

    I was soaked into the haters thing I didn't take the time to enjoy the pictures.

    Sat 2008/11/22 05:58:28 JST (ID #381475)
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  • rayk
    rayk in Australia (Registered on 2007/08/01)
    Pirate cat
    http://www.artbypavel.com

    Nice article danny and photography! I don't think I've had a hater or met one ^^; , then again I'm not the most social person.

    Sat 2008/11/22 06:10:57 JST (ID #381487)
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  • Dann
    Dann in Colombia (Registered on 2008/05/12)
    Merchant

    Beautiful pics and great article, thank you.

    Sat 2008/11/22 06:22:50 JST (ID #381494)
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  • ben_s
    ben_s in Melbourne, Australia (Registered on 2008/06/23)
    Multimedia Technology Student
    http://thehappyninjadrawn.wordpress.com

    Nice photos Danny, did you take them with your KISS 2?

    I've experienced haters here and there, more online than in real life though. E-hate is so much easier I suppose since you can hide behind your made up screen name and such. I got a bit of E-hate on some of my videos that I posted on a skateboard forum. I grew from that e-hate, and my camera work has gotten a lot better since then. Without that hate I wouldn't have progressed with my camera work.

    Sat 2008/11/22 06:49:31 JST (ID #381516)
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  • andra
    andra in Singapore (Registered on 2007/11/06)
    中学生
    http://thezhukeeper.blogspot.com

    Does Danny reply to the hate mails? ^^;

    haha, this time the large blue christmas light photo caught my attention! People always say "picture speaks a thousand words" but now its more like "words show a thousand pictures" ^^;

    Sat 2008/11/22 06:58:16 JST (ID #381524)
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  • The Lyrical Loli
    The Lyrical Loli in Los Angeles, California, U.S. (Registered on 2007/10/14)
    Kokoro Kotonoha's personal trainer
    http://loli1983.wordpress.com

    Los Angeles without haters would make Los Angeles a better place. Unfortunately because of various lifestyles available in Los Angeles, there is a lot of hate.

    Haters are a great recipe in your life if you are going somewhere to make that specific hater hate you more and come to realize how pathetic that person is for even hating (you) to begin with. A hater can also dedicate more time paying attention to others instead of taking that time and do something with their own damn life. Haters cannot accept others for who they are.

    Today i am dealing with a great amount of hate for being my damn self. In fact i had to sacrifice my relationship with a lot of people over the last few months because of the hate i was getting for being myself. I can honestly say that some people do not belong online. For example if you resort to starting a feud online, that person cannot stand it and will try to do something to you in the real world someday. There are a lot of people out to get me but because i'm more mature about the situation i do not resort to violence. It's just the damn internet! You can say something without bad intentions and someone else out there in the cyber-world would take it as if it were a stab in their chest. It's stupid. Believe me, what i say online i mean it. I live in a country where we have freedom of speech. We can say the dumbest things ever and not worry about the authorities knocking down your door and be-heading you for it. But majority of my haters that 'hated' me and parted ways with hated because of my talent. It's rough when you have artistic talent because 100% of the time there is a hater for you in the art world. And obviously, i also have my share of haters because of my addiction to Anime & Japanese culture.

    Hell, i can't even tell my co-workers at work how cute Asian women are because i don't compliment Latino women the same way i do with Asian women. They hate me for having a different taste.

    And believe me, i hate people myself. Everyone hates someone. I actually hate 1 member on Dannychoo.com but not for no reason, i actually have a GOOD reason. Other than that, i hate mainstream rappers, but i have a good reason for that as well, and I hate Hollywood celebrities for no reason (lol). Hollywood isn;t as great as you think it is.

    Sat 2008/11/22 07:14:14 JST (ID #381536)
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    • marvin
      marvin (Registered on 2006/12/24)
      http://www.marvinryan.com

      I agree, any place would be better off without haters.
      sorry to hear about your haters who hate you for being yourself, but from my experience it's best to ignore these haters. it would only make them happier if you actually acknowledge the hate they throw at you. just concentrate on working on your art and improve your talents. don't waste your energy on hate or hating back. in the end you'd be in a better position/standing in life than those haters.

      Sat 2008/11/22 16:45:25 JST (ID #381865)
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      • The Lyrical Loli
        The Lyrical Loli in Los Angeles, California, U.S. (Registered on 2007/10/14)
        Kokoro Kotonoha's personal trainer
        http://loli1983.wordpress.com

        Oh believe me, i'm not bothering with them anymore. Eventually when my art is recognized more and more in the streets, they will see it and come to realize the mistake they made, especially when we were all part of the same crew at one point. Their loss.

        Sat 2008/11/22 18:57:52 JST (ID #381981)
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    • GNdynames
      GNdynames in Toronto, Ontario (Registered on 2008/07/29)
      Student, Bioresearch Assistant, WAVE VP Communications
      http://gndynames.wordpress.com

      Don't believe in yourself, believe in us who believes in you.

      Sorry if it's not the right time. I just thought it fits.

      Sun 2008/11/23 03:56:45 JST (ID #382304)
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    • Silvernoodle
      Silvernoodle in Calgary, Alberta, Canada (Registered on 2008/10/26)
      Inventory Planner

      I agree with you about people hating (put name here)artists for manga, comic books & etc. These people should spend less time bitching online and pickup a pencil and paper and improve their drawing skills. Usually their criticism is not constructive.

      Sun 2008/11/23 09:34:35 JST (ID #382581)
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  • Hawkie1337
    Hawkie1337 in Whitby, Ontario, Canada, North America, Earth (Registered on 2008/08/21)
    Cook, avid manga reader, avid video game player
    http://blogbygene.blogspot.com/

    very nice photots, i liked the one near the end of the post with the apartment ( i think it was).ya in my life there are haters. one guy i work with, everyone calls him slow GG (his initals r GG) and hes slow cause an idiot trained him. he basically just hates my life cause im better then he is, and i show that i am. like he says ohh im the best on fryer grill (i work in a restaurant) then i go and show him im like 50 times faster, and this was before i became one of the fastest there. now im like 2nd or 3rd or sumthing in line for supervisor. he once said 2 me ( like last monday) that im 2 slow 2 be a supervisor and that i will never be one. yes its funny i trained the people that trainded him.not true i trained the people that trainded the people that trained him.i taught the first one good but he failded 2 teach the second one good. so in turned they failed teaching GG.actually the ebst cook we have rite now just said like on munday morning that he prefers 2 work with me over everyone else. i hope that makes sum amount of sence.

    Sat 2008/11/22 09:19:12 JST (ID #381613)
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  • Gibson
    Gibson in California (Registered on 2007/05/27)
    Student artist
    http://www.requestview.wordpress.com

    I swear that Danny's life experience is just like an anime... Btw do you know you current net value Danny?

    Sat 2008/11/22 10:13:55 JST (ID #381672)
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  • AlexWatkiss
    AlexWatkiss in Nottingham (Registered on 2008/06/29)
    Student
    http://www.myspace.com/alexwatkiss1991

    Everyone should love you danny you have done amazing things and nobody can argue about that keep up your amazingness it radiates all over the world.....

    Sat 2008/11/22 12:49:45 JST (ID #381729)
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  • Bluesnow
    Bluesnow (Registered on 2008/08/09)
    Lazy College Student

    I only experienced a hater once back in the 4th grade...
    She was some sort of preppy girl... and her and her friends kept stealing my stuff and pushing me... I was pretty stupid back then though... so I didn't know they were teasing me... I thought it was some kind of gamexD
    One time they push me though and I fell on asphalt and my knees got all bloody and my friends saw what happened. Two of my friends were tom boys and kind of punksxD... like the girls that guys wouldn't even want to mess withxd~And they went over there and beat the crap out of them and I wasn't teased anymore. =D

    I haven't had any haters since adult hood O.o
    I've had people that are completely indifferent to me... thats kind of a worse feeling... because you don't know whats going on in their headxD

    Sat 2008/11/22 14:16:15 JST (ID #381775)
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  • Evo00
    Evo00 in United Kingdom (Registered on 2008/11/03)
    Casshern - Student

    I've definately had a few haters in my life time. Since I lived in England alot. During high school been bullied a few times by people. It was not very nice. A terrible feeling.

    Sat 2008/11/22 16:43:40 JST (ID #381863)
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  • persocomsan
    persocomsan in Pueblo, CO (Registered on 2008/06/20)
    http://animaticfigmation.com/

    I've had plenty of haters, especially in my childhood. I came from a small town where I was well known for some reason, in a negative light, supposedly because of my family name or something stupid like that, and well, I was accused of many bad things and people would go so far as to not only do bad things (vandalize, steal, etc) and actually attempt to frame me for it, but they would dress how I dressed and try to look like me just so I would get the blame put on me. My teachers hated me because I didn't focus on my studies, and I partially think it's the bullying I received and constant worry from people accusing me of things that I just couldn't shift my brain to thinking about schoolwork. So I did poorly in school and my social skills deteriorated majorly over time. I got into bad things after school because I guess I was angry for my past and sought some kind of "revenge" but it was all a dead end. In the end I escaped the bad things and found someone who compliments me, but the fact still remains that I'm almost a complete recluse. I have a hard time leaving my house and when I do things will go fine for a little while but the slightest things seem to overwhelm me. I have haters in my own family because they see me as useless and a waste, I'm trying to teach myself things and connect to people online because in real life I have a hard time meeting people. Could this be fear of being hated? Your words are definitely helpful and they remind me that I shouldn't fear being hated by people but I have the hardest time taking the first steps of getting out of this lifestyle I've gotten sucked into. My passions in the past faded because no one believed in me enough to make me believe in myself. Now I'm at a point in life where I live day-to-day and I have a hard time figuring out what it is I really want to do with it. I think coming here and reading things like this is gradually helping me though. Your motivational posts invoke thoughts and ideas in my head but what stops me is they seem impractical for where and how I'm living right now. And this is really embarrassing writing this where everyone can read it... but I'll leave it here as a bookmark in this time in my life, and hopefully one day look back on it and smile at how far I've come. I want to make something of myself some day to prove that the haters I've had in my life were stepping stones and not stones that sank me to the bottom of the river.

    Sat 2008/11/22 19:30:50 JST (ID #382009)
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  • CaTZ
    CaTZ in Indonesia (Registered on 2007/02/10)
    Game Designer & 2D Artist
    http://catzstudio.blogspot.com/

    Oh hell yeah, and this is not one of those 'when I was a child ones' too

    It happens when the first time I work in a office after I graduated. It was a local gamedev company. I get along with most of the people there, except for this guy, who all of the sudden, hate me for no reason. Won't talk to me, won't even smile, and always made a nasty remark about me.

    Sat 2008/11/22 20:08:10 JST (ID #382042)
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  • CloudX21
    CloudX21 in Indiana (Registered on 2008/04/28)
    Computer Science Major (Programming/Website Developement)

    I Have only had one real bad hater in my life and that was in my childhood. This particular hater would bully me behind the teachers back, sometimes even with punches. He would bully me with everything he could. I usually did good and school and I think I'm pretty good at sports and I think he was just jealous of what I had. This bullying went on when I was in elementary school. Around 4 years later I saw my childhood bully at a local Walmart. He was in the electronics section. I started to walk toward him and he saw this. By this time I was much bigger than him so he walked off real fast. I wasn't planning on doing anything I was just going to look at the games. I guess I got the last laugh. lol n_n

    Sat 2008/11/22 20:31:35 JST (ID #382066)
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  • WiseFreeman
    WiseFreeman in DC Cloning Laboratory (Registered on 2007/11/07)
    Dance Trooper: DCX-001 O.D.E. (Order of the Dancing Empire)
    http://dannychoo.com.my

    Superbly awesome! This is an extremely priceless article! I totally agree on all the points by Danny as I personally experienced it.

    I had a handful of haters back during my school time, mostly because my mentality & the way I presented myself was very different(as in mature). They tend to act friendly in front of me but act otherwise while at my back.
    I came to knew about it from some buddies who came forward & told me secretly, the reason that my buddies came to told me was because I treated everyone well & fair, it doesn't make sense for me to had been sabotaged & backstab from somebody.


    Just recently I'd attracted my first-ever online hater ^_^
    Initially I'm kinda heated up that why some anonymous wanna find trouble with me & claimed that he knew about me from his self-proclaim "source".
    Fortunately for that hater, I was calm & my lawyer advised not to waste my time & resources to sue this particular S'pore blogger.

    Thank you very much "Puma"(cover-up name) for being my jigsaw puzzle y(^_^)y

    Sat 2008/11/22 22:00:34 JST (ID #382103)
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    • WiseFreeman
      WiseFreeman in DC Cloning Laboratory (Registered on 2007/11/07)
      Dance Trooper: DCX-001 O.D.E. (Order of the Dancing Empire)
      http://dannychoo.com.my

      By the way, very nice photoshoot as always ^_^

      I still wonder why it was named "Lalaport" ^^;

      Sat 2008/11/22 22:02:35 JST (ID #382104)
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  • Poofiemus
    Poofiemus in Education Camp, US (Registered on 2008/07/21)
    University's Slave

    I don't have any haters currently in my life, though I had plenty in elementary school and a few in middle school. The ones in elementary school were definitely the "don't understand" type. I think they were baffled that someone could be perfectly happy playing pretend on the edge of the playground rather than playing soccer or tetherball, and yet who also didn't hang out with most of the other girls on the monkey bars doing wanna-be gymnastics.

    In middle school, they kind of lost their touch. They'd try to keep everything to snide, psuedo-subtle comments, like, "You're weird." (Yeah, not really subtle at all, is it? But hey, middle schoolers aren't known for being towering intellects on the whole.) But then I'd just grin, and say, "Thanks!" They soon gave up when they realized their efforts were futile.

    I did have one notable hater in the 8th grade. Amanda. We were both in advanced band and both played flute, but I'd started playing in the 5th grade and she started in the sixth, so I was in the advanced band two years in a row, but for her, that was her only year in advanced band. Anyway, a couple weeks into the school year, we had a little test to determine who was a first flute versus second, etc. Amanda thought she was going to be the best--it was obvious simply in the way she sat as she played. But then, after I played, my teacher was like, "Okay, you're first, Amanda, you're second." I was really happy-totally wasn't expecting it. But Amanda was really bitter about it, and pretty much seethed the rest of the year. What made it worse is that she was one of those girls who was all into trying hard to look pretty, and I didn't give a crap, so not only was she jealous, she didn't understand me either. I was kind of amused by her though, because her attitude through the whole thing was kind of petty, and made an effort to keep first chair just because I didn't want to deal with her ego if she managed to get first. XD

    Sat 2008/11/22 22:56:14 JST (ID #382130)
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  • bakamile
    bakamile in Croatia (Registered on 2007/08/11)
    Freelance otaku

    In my line of work I'm surrounded with haters. There must be a reason why such people exist. Also, beautiful night pictures.

    Sat 2008/11/22 23:05:57 JST (ID #382134)
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  • Vincent III
    Vincent III in Pittsburgh, PA (Registered on 2007/03/22)
    College Student/Web Designer

    I've came across quite a few haters in my life. My childhood I was pretty much that stereotypical nerd who got beat up on a normal basis ^^I I feel those years made me stronger as a person though and helped me find out who I am, and who others are in life. I brush off most insults and attacks now due to I know that they have no effect on my life and that the only person who truly knows who I am, is myself.

    Sat 2008/11/22 23:19:56 JST (ID #382152)
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  • kadhine
    kadhine (Registered on 2008/11/22)

    My sister and I were talking about haters just before I read this article. She just started her own blog and acquired an anon. hater (they never identify themselves, ne?)after only 5 days or so. I don't know if it's in bad form to put her link here so I won't risk it... Anyways, thank you for sharing your personal experiences with us. I have quite a few haters around me and I do find living well is the best revenge, I enjoy seeing them eat themselves up about me :D and yes, it does inspire me to try harder.

    I love the snoopy store in Lalaport!

    Sun 2008/11/23 00:07:31 JST (ID #382164)
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    • JijiN3k0
      JijiN3k0 in Trinidad & Tobago (Registered on 2008/11/23)
      n/a
      http://jijineko.blogspot.com

      Yeah- Stupid hater! I believe he fell into the category of ignorant person afraid of the unknown! Who says it was impossible to have 8 wisdom teeth! :P

      Mon 2008/12/15 00:04:21 JST (ID #412193)
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  • Karasu-kun
    Karasu-kun in オタキュブ (Registered on 2007/07/27)
    大学生徒
    http://ichinichijuu.blogspot.com/

    I think I finally put my finger on why you're so great, Danny. You're "real", you have very little if no pretense about yourself or your life, and you don't try and pretend things that by all rights should matter, don't. A lot of people in a position like yours lose their humanity over time, or have none to begin with. I've known these people. They say, "Don't personalize things, they make you look bad," or they won't mention anything specific about themselves because they view themselves as "above" everyone by not talking about things like haters, or problems that they have, like you just did.

    And as far as haters, personally, I've actually been friends with a hater before and to this day this person doesn't know why I don't like them. This is the type of person that's insecure and can't join in fun for fear of looking like an idiot, so they make fun of everyone and everything everybody does instead. And yet they need validation, so they'll pick on what you like but then wonder why you don't want to include them in anything you do. I'm sure most people have encountered this type before. At first with this person it was merely an annoyance, and then after a while it just became an obsession of his argue about anything and everything with everyone around him, and he would openly admit it. He was your typical cloistered american, which didn't bother me until everything HAD to be pinned to his values (which unsurprisingly were religion-based more often than not), his bigotry surfaced and it was just uncomfortable to be around him. So naturally, liking anime was a problem, as was liking Japan or anything international or worldly, compounded by the fact that he liked american comics to the point of preoccupation. Some gems were that, "White guys don't get a fair shake anymore and when I'm in a position of power I'm going to make a white guys only scholarship for college," and the last straw came when he openly berated one of his friends for wanting to research his Russian heritage. I believe the exact line was, "Why the hell would he want to do that, all he's researching is a stupid language, snow, vodka and prostitutes!" I dislike intolerance and irrationality, and I dislike those who purport to be more rational than everyone when they're just a hypocrite playing by their own rigid rules. I can't count the number of times I let things slide because I'm just not very confrontational or argumentative until you push me. And even to this day I talk to other friends that found him insufferable and cast him off and we all wonder why we stayed friends with him as long as we did, and all we can come up with is "pity" or feeling guilty.

    Sun 2008/11/23 00:39:14 JST (ID #382189)
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  • Karasu-kun
    Karasu-kun in オタキュブ (Registered on 2007/07/27)
    大学生徒
    http://ichinichijuu.blogspot.com/

    And, is it really bad that I've had at least one person in my life like the archetypes you've mentioned, Danny? ^^;

    Sun 2008/11/23 00:44:43 JST (ID #382197)
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  • GNdynames
    GNdynames in Toronto, Ontario (Registered on 2008/07/29)
    Student, Bioresearch Assistant, WAVE VP Communications
    http://gndynames.wordpress.com

    I've always been amazed at how Danny makes everything an opportunity. It's funny since I've had no regrets in my life after I've joined the group.

    Haters might be too harsh to call some of my old friends back at highschool who had nothing better to do than to mock those around them. I suppose it's more of my problem though since I'm the one who wasn't pleased at them for putting down other people, and when I spoke out to them they turned on me, saying I try to be someone I'm not by hanging out with Chinese kids (which was totally ironic because all of them were Chinese, 75% of our school was Chinese, and they can't speak a sentence in Chinese without replacing every other word with an English word) and soon enough they started making fun of me for using my paychecks on otaku goods (the irony here is that I'm the only one who had a part time job). That was during the summer before we headed off to different universities and the end of our 7 year friendship. I tried to mend our friendship but I ended up with a bunch of lols and more carefully phraised versions of "you suck".

    Sun 2008/11/23 03:27:59 JST (ID #382287)
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    • lightningsabre
      lightningsabre in Vancouver (Registered on 2007/08/30)
      Pseudo-Graphic Designer, 触手 wrangler, H-Man
      http://lightningsabre.blogspot.com/

      I think you did the right thing for not following your friends putting down other people. I've tried to please so many people so that I don't make people hate me. But it becomes very two-faced & hypocritical when the people I'm trying to please are (always) in conflict with each other. I just wished they could get along with each other better, but too many personalities clashing.

      Anyways, I'm impressed you actually tried to mend it. It's just too bad for them for not accepting your offer.

      Sun 2008/11/23 08:26:28 JST (ID #382519)
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  • Silvernoodle
    Silvernoodle in Calgary, Alberta, Canada (Registered on 2008/10/26)
    Inventory Planner

    Wow Danny... great article. (I enjoy your writings; they are well written and insightful.)

    Your attitude about focusing your energy and moving on is great. I don't know if it is your mixed cultural and educational background that gives you the perseverance (Asian) and optimism (Western) to succeed.

    Your point about Japanese loggers bashing others seems so unlike the usual image I have of polite Japanese. But I have read Japanese students being bashed online and some have tried to commit suicide. I can only speak of Chinese, but they seem to internalize so much of what other people think that it cause them so much frustration and self-doubt. They are locked into this negative spiral always trying to appease these people.

    That is why I find your attitude great. You know how to draw the line and not let them affect you.

    Sun 2008/11/23 09:24:27 JST (ID #382565)
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  • CloudX21
    CloudX21 in Indiana (Registered on 2008/04/28)
    Computer Science Major (Programming/Website Developement)

    Oh yea I forgot to mention. Nice photo shoot danny. n_n

    Sun 2008/11/23 11:41:18 JST (ID #382707)
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  • kadosho
    kadosho in Tacoma. WA USA (Registered on 2008/03/04)
    Unemployed and searching
    http://www.allgames.com/

    Quite the write up Danny, its never easy to come out and admit something like this.
    I can't forget how many people I knew the same way, changed into someone else later.
    But there are indeed positive things ahead, so no need to "sweat the small stuff" ^_^

    Sun 2008/11/23 14:39:46 JST (ID #382825)
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  • kousaka
    kousaka in USA (Registered on 2007/09/01)
    student

    Another great post and pics to go along.^^

    Interesting people you met. Can't recall ever being the target of someone's hate, but if i did I would just try to ignore them if possible. I am the only master of my own life and only i will decide how my day will go.

    It bugs me to hear that people are constantly harrassed by the haters in their life and i feel for you having to deal with them getting on your nut constantly. After a while one would probably look for a way to retaliate, but that is not the way. If haters only learned to use that energy for something positive, the world would be a much better place.

    Sun 2008/11/23 19:19:13 JST (ID #383067)
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  • Dragonic
    Dragonic in West Yorkshire, United Kingdom (Registered on 2008/07/14)
    http://dragonic.wordpress.com/

    Great post as always Danny!

    The following might be a bit off topic for this particular post but here goes:
    This actually made me feel alot easier about my whole Job Workshop thing that i've been really nervous about which starts tomorrow, particularly the recruitment section that you wrote about. I'm a naturally shy person, so going into new situations kinda scares me as im not in my comfort zone (As it does everyone else I suppose) but MANY of your posts are helping me realise that I need to leave my comfort zone to help me achieve my goals in life and not get/stay in a rutt.

    Danny Choo awesome posts as always ^-^

    Sun 2008/11/23 23:44:46 JST (ID #383327)
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  • Kyle
    Kyle in Seattle, Washington (Registered on 2007/10/08)
    Student/Part-timer

    Ugh, Japan is just so beautiful! I want to live there when I grow up, but I hear it's really a hassle to stay in Japan if you're a foreigner. Something to do with the government not liking foreigners staying in Japan for too long, then get kicked out of the country. I don't know, that's what I heard. I have a cousin in Japan that told me some problems she had, so I don't really know. I think I'll just stick with Italy. ^_^'

    Mon 2008/11/24 00:39:05 JST (ID #383371)
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    • Destinii Haruya
      Destinii Haruya in Achfary. Heard of it? Thought not... (Registered on 2008/10/12)
      Schoolkid
      http://did-someone-say-anime.blogspot.com

      I so want to live over there too... doesn't help that everyone in my area thinks it's ugly, mind. Ugly?!? You must be crazy, residents of Sutherland... >.>

      Sat 2008/11/29 17:03:23 JST (ID #391403)
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  • tymmur
    tymmur in his top secret nuclear bunker (Registered on 2008/01/20)
    Mad scientist

    I have always encountered people who hated me. However it haven't been for "no apparent reason".
    It all started when I started school. Some kids were mean to me and the school decided that naturally the majority were right and the kid alone were the problem. They decided to send me to a child psychologist. His conclusion was something like "This boy is unusual bright and understands things unusual for his age. Because of this he says stuff that the kids of his age doesn't understand. Some kids of that age (6-7 years old) gets frustrated and attacks everything they fail to understand.". Now the problem was known but the school didn't solve it. In fact they still considered me to be the problem and eventually my parents gave up on the school and I came to a new school...

    However I didn't leave the school system that had decided to hate me. The day before I started in the new school the teacher told the class that the class was good as it was and that they shouldn't welcome me. In fact it would be good if the kids could treat me so bad that I would leave again. My parents learned this because the kids wondered about this message and told their parents. Some of the parents told my parents and some of them filed a compain about the teacher. Nothing came out of that compain.

    Most of the kids in the new school treated me ok, but the teachers treated me like scum and supported the kids who bullied me. To solve the bullying problem the teachers came up with the solution that I wasn't allowed to play with the other kids during recess and I had to stay at a specific location (not in class or the schoolyard, but a specific place elsewhere). Isolation reduced the problem but then the other kids came up with a new plan. They started lying about what problems I caused during recess and that I was in the schoolyard. They tried that one on a day where I actually met somebody who could confirm that I was in the right location... now that could have caused me great problems. Eventually I couldn't find anybody to witness against their new lie and the teachers started treating me like I had killed somebody. Then I moved school again.
    The teachers here hated me too (I was even starved at school camp. I really wasn't allowed to eat all my food and I didn't get any food on the last day o_O ). One time I got assaulted by a classmate in the schoolyard during recess. I passed out and woke up on a stretcher carried by two teachers. I ended up in hospital where they decided on surgery the same day due to internal bleedings. When I MUCH later returned to school I was met with "I barely touched him" and the school went with that and nothing happened. Looks like it was ok to physically scar me for life. Eventually we had to give up on that school too.

    Now something interesting happened. The teachers still treated me like scum, but they made an oops. They called for a meeting with my parents about all the problems they considered that I had. They had my file on the table during the meeting and it told that every time I changed school the old school sent my file to the new school (this is illegal for the schools to do, but if it isn't detected) and that the first school had written that I had caused havoc in my class. Now I was stamped as a bad boy and next schools added similar stuff.

    My parents decided to send me to a private school to get away from all that. Back then we didn't even have money for even a used car so spending money on a private school meant working evenings too for my dad >.<

    However it was worth it since the problems died overnight. For the first time I started in a new school where the teachers didn't hate me from day 1 and after 8 years of pure hell it actually became fun to go to school. I also started learning stuff and my grades improved a great deal.

    I officially hate my first 8 years of school since it hated me and tried to make life as hard for me as possible. We hear about bullying in schools once in a while but the media never talks about bullying being controlled by teachers. However I can see the teachers in my sister's class controls bullying too. Looks like if the teachers gives special permissions to certain kids, they can use those kids to control the class... or something. I didn't encounter bullying at the private school basically because it had strong leadership from both teachers and headmaster. The headmaster was prepared to fire a teacher if the teacher failed to stop bullying.

    Now I'm in uni and the only haters that I encounter now are the ones who tries to get credit for my work. Looks like I put up more of a fight to defend my work and grades than other people. I usually have this problem with people who think they are going to fail or even drop out. Luckily I only encountered this a few (less than 5) times.

    Sorry if this got a bit long, but I felt like talking. I rarely talk about this because people generally think that the school can't be that bad and that there is something wrong with me since it went that bad. People don't realise how powerless you can be if people with power over you are out to get you for no reason. Thinking back on all this makes me cry and I almost never cry. Specially the hospital thing is hard on me. :~(

    I guess that's what I had to say about haters, at least for now. Needless to say I have strong feelings about them.

    Mon 2008/11/24 05:44:47 JST (ID #383583)
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    • tymmur
      tymmur in his top secret nuclear bunker (Registered on 2008/01/20)
      Mad scientist

      This turned out to be harder on me that I imagined. I spent 2 hours writing this and ended up crying when thinking about this again. I couldn't stop thinking about it and it kept me awake so I only slept 3 hours last night.

      I checked for replies when I got up and was actually hurt when there were none. Normally I would be like "ok, fine" and move on, but this time I wrote something that matters so much to me that I really want other people to read it.

      I know it's long and I know I might seem inpatient, but I will still ask: Did anybody read this?

      Mon 2008/11/24 12:55:41 JST (ID #383952)
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      • Danny Choo
        Danny Choo in Tokyo (Registered on 2006/12/11)
        CEO MIrai Inc
        http://www.dannychoo.com/profile/eng/

        We read it. Some times its difficult to react.
        What did you personally learn from your experiences? From reading mine you can see that I have a conclusion for my personal experiences.

        Mon 2008/11/24 13:41:34 JST (ID #384001)
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        • tymmur
          tymmur in his top secret nuclear bunker (Registered on 2008/01/20)
          Mad scientist

          I'm not sure if I learned anything positive from it. I learned that you can't rely on people in power (in this case the teachers/schools) to follow the laws and give you a fair treatment (I'm still shocked that assault that resulted in surgery the same day can be ignored because the attacker says "I barely touched him"). I also learned that some people will be cruel to other people if it means that they aren't the target themselves.

          I'm not sure if I learned anything constructive other than you can't trust people. I encountered a few kids who wanted to make friends with me and after they had been at my place a few times, they knew that I cared about what stuff I owned and they used that to make the bullying at school even more mean since they used stuff that I cared about. I tried that on all the public schools I have attended.

          I don't think I learned anything that I can use for good stuff like you do. If anything then I guess it is to protect my family against the school system. This is currently siblings and their children, but it would specially be my own children when that time comes... if it comes. The doctors wasn't sure if my fertility is unaffected by the assault and to be honest I don't dare to get it checked, at least not right now. I don't know what I would do if the result is negative.

          Mon 2008/11/24 14:15:57 JST (ID #384026)
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    • ExApparition
      ExApparition in California, USA (Registered on 2008/08/07)
      Student

      Wow, scrolling down from the article this long paragraph particularly caught my eye. An amazingly sad story. I'm just surprised no one stepped in to help you, those people who just sat there and watched while you got bullied... especially teachers. Horrible people.
      The schools around here are very strict on bullying and there are even student related activities to prevent it.

      Tue 2008/11/25 12:00:20 JST (ID #385038)
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      • tymmur
        tymmur in his top secret nuclear bunker (Registered on 2008/01/20)
        Mad scientist

        It would appear that the school management got the note about me before I arrived and informed the teachers. The teachers might even have been told to treat me so bad that I would leave again. At least they acted like they had been told that. This means that it's quite natural that they didn't want to help me.

        Once in a while somebody from my class tried to help me. However helping me was the same as going against the teacher and that wasn't any fun for them so they stopped doing that.

        I have one story that pretty much tells how I was treated by the teachers. The class should pick two students for the student council. I decided to go for it and there were like 6 candidates. One teacher said that since it should be the voice of the whole class we should have an election to pick who to act on behalf of the class (kind of like the government system). I won together with another guy and we got around 80% of the votes combined (he got one more vote than me). The teacher said that it's good that the class agreed so strongly on who to pick. The next day another teacher declared that the election was a bad idea and I lost my place in the student council. It was given to a guy, who only got one vote (his own). Several parents complained about teaching dictatorship instead of democracy but the school didn't care or at least I was never allowed to join the school council.

        When I was in school, bullying wasn't an official problem. It was just something that happened to kids who asked for it themselves. Today the government passed a law telling that schools have to make a plan on how to prevent bullying. The plans tend to be kind of randomly made, ain't working and aren't even used when bullying is a problem so the result is that nothing changed, or maybe it's even worse today because the school defend themselves with the fact that they made the plan they should make so (in their eyes) there is no bullying that their school.

        I read that Sweden passed a law that outlaws bullying in schools. This means that if it happens then the parents can report the teacher/school to the police. I'm not sure what happens when they do, but it happens once in a while. I read in the newspaper that some parents did that because their child was tied up and other kids screamed him into the ears, which made him hearing impaired and the school didn't care. I don't know who gave the kids the idea to scream each other into the ears, but it's listed as torture to do that. I don't know why we accept that schoolkids torture and permanently damages each other, but for some reason it's accepted on at least some schools (accepted in the way that the kids get away with it because the school don't care).

        Tue 2008/11/25 14:09:20 JST (ID #385127)
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    • brian
      brian in Tokyo (Registered on 2007/10/03)
      Programmer
      http://techsuki.net

      Hello tymmur. Is there someway to contact you? I thought there was some kinda contact form to message members here but I can't find it.

      Sun 2008/11/30 05:19:31 JST (ID #392051)
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    • (Re-ACT)
      (Re-ACT) in cali, usa (Registered on 2009/01/07)
      bum,hachi roku driver

      Man I totally agree.
      Had similar problems too but because I was of a different race than the majority and I was the shortest person in class. If I was a teacher, I would put a stop to bullying because its stupid.
      After all you've been through, you become stronger emotionally and smarter. Haters just want to take advantage of your weakness, I've learned to look at things from a different perspective now so haters are just scumbags that have no life.
      Its okay for your post to be long...discuss away, screw haters.

      Thu 2009/08/20 01:57:51 JST (ID #704921)
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  • ecam
    ecam in Malaysia (Registered on 2007/09/28)
    Project Engineer
    http://www.ahmadhisyam.com

    talking about hater, hater is most common in office environment. they hate to see ppl do better than them. let me tell u a story about an aspiring worker who is accused of stealing his office mate's money.

    U see, the victim complained that her money had been stolen. And the most probable suspect is the one sitting next to her. And ahhh to add to the seasoning, they found the money in the document tray of the said suspect. The question is, if you're a thief, would you put ur loot at a place that can discriminate u? Y not put in ur wallet. After all it is just a small lump of rm200. I smell conspiracy here.

    And to heard the victim that she went to see the security officer and asked to see the security tape. And all that they can see is the suspect really put his hand to the tray but they don't see he's holding the money (it is his tray for god sake!!). And just base on this they decide to go after the suspect and make him confess kempetai style. And so the suspect swear he didn't do it and said he will take this this to the higher people.

    Guess what, the victim try to hush him up by saying this incident can cause some rep penalty. She said she already got her money back and decide to leave it at that. U see, thievery is frowned upon very hard in malaysia. So who the culprit? the accused aspiring worker or the victim? Is this some insidious plan to make that guy leave the company? Oh and the guy will never trust all his co worker.

    Mon 2008/11/24 06:13:02 JST (ID #383618)
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  • R-1
    R-1 in a happy place. (Registered on 2007/07/05)
    Overman
    http://myplasticmoustache.blogspot.com/

    *Claps Loudly*

    Mon 2008/11/24 08:50:30 JST (ID #383750)
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  • suki
    suki in Cape Town, South Africa (Registered on 2007/08/22)
    Graphic Design student | Receptionist | Otaku
    http://sukidesho.blogspot.com/

    Beautiful post, Danny-san! In both pictures and content ^-^
    It's something that we can all learn from

    Mon 2008/11/24 12:27:32 JST (ID #383940)
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  • duffman
    duffman in the Urban Jungle that is Manila(PH)~ (Registered on 2007/10/30)
    Daigakusei [Consular and Diplomatic Affairs]
    http://dixinfernal.wordpress.com

    good thing i don't have any kind of encounters with haters^^

    Mon 2008/11/24 12:36:53 JST (ID #383946)
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  • Robostrike
    Robostrike in Waterloo, Ontario (Registered on 2008/01/02)
    System Design Engineering (UWaterloo)
    http://robostrike.wordpress.com

    Haters are a good way to learn about society and the variety of people. Just don't go near them if you see them. If online, block them and stop them from going to your blog.

    Mon 2008/11/24 16:27:03 JST (ID #384117)
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  • kâkebuke
    kâkebuke in Paris, Not Texas (Registered on 2007/12/17)
    Wibbling+Writing+Teaching
    http://www.kakebuke.net

    Another inspirational post. :) Although I have not encountered many haters so far, I feel that your analysis is quite accurate as well as encouraging.

    The architecture of the building in the second-to-last picture is rather interesting.

    Tue 2008/11/25 01:08:16 JST (ID #384489)
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  • sheepchan
    sheepchan in daydream land, Portugal (Registered on 2008/03/24)
    university student
    http://comica23.deviantart.com

    Really well said, when you mentioned about how we can actually be glad that we have haters. ^_^

    Actually, I've got some bullies during the secondary school, but nothing serious thought. It was coz I was the only Asian in the whole school I guess lol. Yet it was actually kinda fun whenever me and my best friend (who got bullied together with me) remember about those days lol. X3
    There was also once time a girl hated me with passion, but then, knowing that she was envious of my skills actually made me kinda happy and feeling victorious over her deep inside lolol~ XD

    But well, I can't really see why haters can have so much grudge towards someone, as if he/she killed their family lol. Taking Magibon as example, I don't find her particularly interesting or annoying, maybe just boring for only doing kawaii wannabe expression in front of her cam, but how can it arouse so much hate in others?? I mean, why does people bother to have so much hate towards something they are not interested in? ^_~; It's not that she done anyone wrong, so people who finds her uninteresting can just look elsewhere, yet they have to spend their precious time to flame someone for doing something uninteresting for them lol. So yeah, they can really hold so much grudge and even spend so much effort to flame someone coz they are just as you said. XP

    Tue 2008/11/25 03:28:37 JST (ID #384564)
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  • Arieru-chan
    Arieru-chan in Australia (Registered on 2007/11/09)
    Part time retail - Full time otaku

    Thank you so much for those wise and insightful words. Honestly.

    I'm in a position at the moment where I'm letting people like that severely alter my life. Letting, being the key word. I don’t intent to let them hold that power over me anymore.

    Thank you.

    Tue 2008/11/25 03:47:46 JST (ID #384577)
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  • ExApparition
    ExApparition in California, USA (Registered on 2008/08/07)
    Student

    I've seen my shares of haters, especially during my middle school and most of my high school year. Experience has taught me to be... *kind* to them. When some one has a problem with me, I've learnt to reply in a nice manner and try to befriend them. I found out that this is the most effective way to resolve our conflict.
    However, there was one instance.
    There used to be a guy who bullied me because i was *weak* you could say. He took karate classes and would love to spend his time performing his *tricks* on me (mostly tripping). Anyways, this was starting to bug me so one day I punched him(bad mistake). He eventually got me back... and soon after that we stopped talking.
    Now(yes I'm still in High School) I avoid him as much as possible >.<, it's been a year already. Oh yeah, forgot to mention, before he bullied me we were somewhat friends. More like acquaintances but a bit closer.

    Tue 2008/11/25 12:11:25 JST (ID #385048)
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    • (Re-ACT)
      (Re-ACT) in cali, usa (Registered on 2009/01/07)
      bum,hachi roku driver

      Yup I agree don't be like me and be a douche bag to haters ^^;

      Thu 2009/08/20 02:03:19 JST (ID #704925)
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  • nbreath
    nbreath in Pasto, Colombia (Registered on 2008/10/11)
    Student
    http://situsaleatorius.blogspot.com

    The most important is learn about this, with yours experience Danny, ones sad and anothers fun, all can learn something from you and why not... for use in own lifes(keep this kind of post, also I'm new here but I read your other post like this and anoher figure stuff XD). Haters "need feel most important hurting people" but you can use this "pressure" to improve your skills, this doesn't mean that situation will be easy for you, but you can get up and keep walking. In my case have some "low" haters, people who are joking(too much) about me, but I never take his comments and now I'm fine.

    Tue 2008/11/25 17:49:51 JST (ID #385337)
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  • ikarusangel
    ikarusangel in Tegucigalpa, Honduras (Registered on 2008/09/16)
    marketing and international business

    DANNY! Thanks for share

    Wed 2008/11/26 02:50:58 JST (ID #385736)
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  • okcancel
    okcancel (Registered on 2008/09/15)
    web something something
    http://parametriks.com

    everyman has to go through hell to reach his paradise.
    hehe. well, i was hated, i hated, now i just ignore a lot, or at least try to.

    Wed 2008/11/26 03:35:29 JST (ID #385785)
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  • daichouginga
    daichouginga in Byston Well, the land between the earth and the sea (Registered on 2008/06/04)
    The Sword of Magus
    http://daichouginga.blogspot.com/

    Wow, thanks for the motivation! This is also and exact timing for me to read this, I just got a problem of mine an hour ago and after reading this, I've become motivated to face any consequences I'm facing right now. Thanks! ^^

    Wed 2008/11/26 23:21:10 JST (ID #387202)
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  • takamichi
    takamichi (Registered on 2008/09/12)

    normally I'd sense haters before the begin hating me XD that's why I'm able to avoid them most of the time ^w^ However when it's inevitable to be with them ~ that's when the real problem starts T__T

    Thu 2008/11/27 08:33:47 JST (ID #387860)
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  • Destinii Haruya
    Destinii Haruya in Achfary. Heard of it? Thought not... (Registered on 2008/10/12)
    Schoolkid
    http://did-someone-say-anime.blogspot.com

    My life's absolutely full of haters. Almost everyone in northwest Scotland treats me like some kind of doggy doodoo. Which is why I spend about 67% of my life online.

    Sat 2008/11/29 17:06:03 JST (ID #391405)
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  • PudgyM29
    PudgyM29 in Chicago, IL. [U.S.A.] (Registered on 2008/03/30)
    Fledgling repowriter
    http://sn.im/sdr002

    I have 'haters'. Both on-line, and even in that area where on-line crosses over to the "real world".
    I do not know if I am 'proud' of this, but I managed to convert at least two people who were promoting a monthly assemblage of real people who maintained a weblog into such devout haters that _they shut down the *_public_* on-line assemblage announcement weblog in order to prevent me from appearing at get-togethers where they would be_. {The salient quote: "We're doing this to keep Pudgy from showing up."} [References available on request.]
    On-line situations can attract haters. But you do find on-line haters who use their real identities. It usually occurs when they know other on-line people in real life.
    I am confident enough in my own knowledge and abilities. I do not require 'validation' from other people, especially 'haters'. I believe *that* is what really perturbs 'haters' more than anything else. If you appreciate what I do, fine. If you don't, and you make the effort to tell me this, fine also. I'll keep you on the list of persons about whom I pay no heed.
    The photographs were good, too.

    Sun 2008/11/30 04:59:44 JST (ID #392003)
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  • Shockerz
    Shockerz in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia (Registered on 2008/10/12)
    Student
    http://shockerz.wordpress.com/

    I didn't know that hater can bring us great changes in our life to a better person. I can't say that I didn't have haters but I feel it have.

    Sun 2008/11/30 16:22:19 JST (ID #392724)
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  • うちは サスケ
    うちは サスケ in Bulgaria (Registered on 2008/10/22)
    Student
    http://musou-enrai.deviantart.com/

    Danny, that was a heck of a post! I rarely find so useful information gathered all up in one place. Haters do suck but your theory is a great! What doesn't kill me, makes me stronger! Indeed one should be probably happy when he faces hardships because he has to overcome them, and get stronger. And someone told me(I think it was my dad) that life gives everyone obstacles big enough for them to overcome.
    Do I have any haters? Yeah, I think I do. Over the years discipline gets worse, students don't do their homeworks... heck they don't even bother to carry textbooks anymore. And when someone does his homework, studies - he sticks out. A lot of my classmates whine about how teachers don't pass me remarks. Not to brag but me and one schoolmate are almost the only ones doing something in school. And when the rest of the class, "the scum," doesn't understand something I said during English or French class, it's my fault they're so dimwitted. Tsk! Sometimes they're so LOUD and annoying that just want to take my bag and leave! And the hell with everything! But... I have to endure this! Shikataganai!

    Mon 2008/12/01 05:11:56 JST (ID #393422)
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  • kona.kona
    kona.kona in Singapore (Registered on 2008/10/15)
    Student
    http://konadora.wordpress.com

    I feel so ashamed of my fellow Korean brother... *hides in a corner and begs for forgiveness*

    Sat 2008/12/06 10:12:24 JST (ID #400970)
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    • kona.kona
      kona.kona in Singapore (Registered on 2008/10/15)
      Student
      http://konadora.wordpress.com

      And just an add on, I really found your entire post useful. Used to hate alot of people in the past, only to realise that it did not benefit me at all. Instead, went all-optimistic, and things are now so much better. Posts like this once in a while are refreshing and captivating :D

      P.S: didn't know you spoke Korean! Do you speak Korean now too?

      Sat 2008/12/06 10:18:46 JST (ID #400977)
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  • -'silent'-
    -'silent'- in Canada (Registered on 2008/11/29)
    Currently Jobless (LOL!)

    danny, this is so inspirational, copy paste save : ), although life has its ups and downs, you still tend to continue to stand up every time you fall, its human nature...keep it up!

    now i wonder if they still bully danny?, danny, use a blaster!

    Sun 2008/12/07 03:22:06 JST (ID #401796)
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  • xyanide
    xyanide in The Netherlands (Registered on 2008/09/21)
    Audio Engineer
    http://www.otakusdream.org

    I tend to stay clear of haters, that's all you need to do. I've been bullied as a kid ever since elementary throughout highschool, I wasn't a threat to most people at all as I was just odd and usually just being screwed around with. At any rate it's learned me to trust no one and estimate people's intentions to the bone, this obviously isn't a good development and a bit paranoid even of close friends sometimes.

    Best way to deal with haters? Brush it off with a "Screw you too" or simply f**k them up (physically or mentally), it'll scare them into not screwing around with you anymore and it usually stops right away. If not? Rinse and repeat, don't be scared of the consequences and of course killing is never the answer.

    Sun 2008/12/07 16:53:58 JST (ID #402624)
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  • haibane
    haibane in Texas (Registered on 2008/11/06)
    Radiographer

    Actually alot of my friends do not like seeing me advance in studies or education in college as soon as it happens they switch to hating mode . Which is funny becasue I have spent countless hours tutoring them in their studies and encouraging them to succeed . For some reason when I succeed in something they like to pull me down as though all of us need to be in the same level "we all need to be losers without jobs or else your not cool" . I guess it´s jealosy or they see me as some form of a sell out ? but I just think my friends are a bunch of losers .

    Thu 2008/12/11 00:37:36 JST (ID #406919)
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  • Alex Peh
    Alex Peh in Singapore (Registered on 2009/01/04)
    Job seeker

    Haters are part and parcel in this dog-eat-dog world. When eveyone's being so competitive in an coop up environment, there's bound to be people who doesn't see much eye to eye with one another and would one to make the person u hated miserable. Like what Danny had said, sometimes these people are the ones who propels you further to becoming a more stronger person than before. As the saying goes "What doesn't breaks you makes you stronger."

    Sun 2009/01/04 17:50:20 JST (ID #435442)
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  • Zarn
    Zarn in the wrong side of Asia (Registered on 2007/07/11)
    Summer school skipper

    Actually I'm quite hated in my class, and it does get to me sometimes, especially when my friends ain't around and I have none to talk to. I don't why , but apparently it's something about me that they're jealous or disapprove of. There isn't much to be done right now as I have no other school choices and am uneasy about leaving this place after all these years. I just hope I'll manage to pass the exams somehow.

    Mon 2009/01/05 22:31:31 JST (ID #436850)
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  • IRTeA
    IRTeA in Puddingland (Registered on 2008/08/30)
    Future Idol
    http://puddingparadise.blogspot.com

    I was talking with my friend about having haters, and he give me a link to this page.
    Really useful information and touching story there.
    Thanks for sharing Danny.

    Fri 2009/01/09 08:56:41 JST (ID #441451)
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  • Natso
    Natso in Texas, USA (Registered on 2009/01/09)
    Programmer
    http://natso.darknovagames.com

    Haters... I can't recall having any from high-school and up, there were bullies before that (the generic kind at every middle-school, but who doesn't have these?), but I'd hardly call them haters. I'm a pretty damn adaptive guy (so as to avoid conflict). When I'm in a new area or working on something for a project I haven't been in before, I watch for protocol and reactions to make sure I'm not doing anything out of place. I do like to add new things to help, but I'll usually ask first. meh~

    Fri 2009/01/09 21:23:37 JST (ID #441971)
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  • zer0ne
    zer0ne in CCK, Singapore (Registered on 2009/01/17)
    Otaku ^^

    Your article about haters touch me to tears. What you said are right.

    When I first time watch Magibon video, there are many negative comments about her from a lot of viewers. At first I thought she was a weird Japanese girl. Later I found out she was very popular in Japan and I tried to find out who she is, and my perception of her is wrong. Who would have thought she was an American teenager who lover things Japanese, and she want to express her Japanese interest in YouTube. Thank you for your insight.

    d@@b

    Wed 2009/01/21 18:41:18 JST (ID #456731)
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  • drakanity
    drakanity in United States, CA (Registered on 2008/12/27)

    There are always haters. Everywhere. Actually your definition of a hater is a little different than mine.

    I consider myself a hater lol. Well not really, but I like to hate for fun. Only to friends though.

    Everyone's opinion is different, so there are always people who are jealous of others who then become haters.

    Mon 2009/01/26 22:34:00 JST (ID #463482)
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  • bodhemon
    bodhemon in Washington D.c. (Registered on 2009/02/19)
    carpenter

    Danny, this is truly a remarkable post. It is rare to hear someone speaking so eloquently and frankly about something many find so discomforting, even rarer on the web. I commend you for being so upfront with your vulnerability, which (I think) is the source of all true power.
    you've got a friend in DC
    gabe

    Thu 2009/02/19 02:18:41 JST (ID #494597)
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  • Miri
    Miri in (。◕‿‿◕。) (Registered on 2009/01/30)
    Student
    http://miri.textcube.com/

    A remarkable post; it shall be bookmarked for later reference.

    Tue 2009/03/10 10:19:10 JST (ID #516280)
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  • willdavis
    willdavis (Registered on 2008/08/19)
    Chemical Engineering Student
    http://flickr.com/photos/daboryuu

    The first pic reminds me of the training ground in Balamb Garden in FFVIII!!

    Sat 2009/05/02 19:01:13 JST (ID #588379)
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    • willdavis
      willdavis (Registered on 2008/08/19)
      Chemical Engineering Student
      http://flickr.com/photos/daboryuu

      Really liked this article, it helped me a lot to focus on things that matter and forget about haters. Actually, I think they're quite necessary to have haters, it helps you remain focus and they remind you what you can turn into if you lose sight of your goal. Excellent as always, Danny.

      Sat 2009/05/02 19:05:36 JST (ID #588381)
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    • (Re-ACT)
      (Re-ACT) in cali, usa (Registered on 2009/01/07)
      bum,hachi roku driver

      Yeah I just noticed that too!!!
      Gotta watch out for that T-Rex (@_@)

      Thu 2009/08/20 02:06:07 JST (ID #704930)
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  • Bashir
    Bashir in North American Continent (Registered on 2009/03/24)
    Among the evergrowing ranks of unemployed

    Very profound, and very true.

    Mon 2009/07/06 05:59:11 JST (ID #668051)
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  • Marooned Islander
    Marooned Islander in Old Blighty (Registered on 2008/09/22)
    Big Daddy!

    Do ex-girlfriends count?

    Thu 2009/08/06 09:00:25 JST (ID #695476)
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  • Wavehawk
    Wavehawk in Melbourne, Australia (Registered on 2009/07/05)
    Passing-Thru KamenRider

    Says a lot that I learned to fight because of 'haters'. The sad thing about haters is that if you want to gain their respect you have to become one of them.

    And really, si that what you want to be?

    Sat 2009/08/08 15:40:09 JST (ID #697153)
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  • (Re-ACT)
    (Re-ACT) in cali, usa (Registered on 2009/01/07)
    bum,hachi roku driver

    Man this post made my day. Thank for putting that out that haters are not worth wasting life on!
    Being in the US, I'm surrounded by haters no matter where I look.
    Part of the reason they hate is because they are narrow minded so they think that if something is weird, they automatically reject it whether its a new set of clothes, new car style, or dance move, and etc...
    They obviously don't have a purpose in life, time spent hatin' CAN be spent improving your skills or talents or even just having fun with friends so why hate?

    Thu 2009/08/20 00:58:33 JST (ID #704894)
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  • peachie
    peachie in Howl's Moving Castle (Registered on 2009/02/18)
    Secret Keeper
    http://tunasashimi.i.ph

    I love what you wrote, Danny, thanks for sharing this :) I've had my share of haters and this is really helpful :)

    Tue 2009/11/10 11:59:40 JST (ID #739409)
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