Tokyo Trains

make up girls or loud cellphone talkers are not such a biggy, but the farts...o my...u just cant escape it

"Do it at home" makes sense. What I find the most annoying are smelly farts that last for hours and loud cellphone speakers.

I'm not sure how are girls putting makeup on the train is annoying... I'd find it lovely seeing a cute japanese girl putting on makeup.

Alright! Thanks for the Tokyo Train Map, Danny.

I think the worst is BO
NO escape o_o

the thing that annoys me the most is not farts... or makeup... nor is it phone-talkers...

it's those really smelly people... that ugh... just smell horrible =_=... Like... they haven't taken a shower in the last week or something =____=

Well, I've dealt with bad BO before. Got a friend who sometimes has some nasty BO. to the point where I'll roll down car windows a little in sub zero weather. But loud Cell phone talkers bug the heck outta me. Wanna just reach over and shove the phone down their throat (Or other fitting orifice)

Eating is a no no too. As far as farting goes, I wish there was a way to suck out those fart particles that enter your membrane.

It must be hell being on a train or subway in the morning...

-Begins rant mode-
Oy Danny, good timing.
There was a guy in the bus today that was talking with his girlfriend over the phone, and to not be discreet he was. At first he was all kind and gentle to her and began to utter she was emotionally abusive to him.
What is worse than criticizing your girlfriend first (bad move) for her behavior on your relatives, then complain about all what's mean she does to you (even worse) and empty your bag (your relation is going downhill for sure, buddy)? To do it in front of people who don't give a rat's crap (and I was seated next to him, talk about cursed).
And this guy had quite the crappy taste in terms of ringtone... Tarzan's trademark shout. Darn.
Gosh, I already hated people randomly talking on their cellphones because I really believe they talk alone, but when they get loud like that... Gah!
-End of rant-

I'm always annoyed by loud talkers, or those who blasts music off their handphones. BO is also another issue, why can't people keep themselves clean or at least minimum smell free?
Two thing I really like about Japan's trains when I visited, was the accuracy of train timings, and mainly the fact that the people are disciplined enough to let those in the train to get off first before making their way in. Here in Singapore, we have people forcing their way in just after the door opens, and not giving way to those trying to exit. Really pisses me off.

Well at least they are not putting on their makeup on a train and not while driving a car. It's amazing what I've seen some people doing while the are operating a car.

I wonder why a girl applying makeup on a train is a big deal... one thing I can think of is it ruins the magic of seeing a pretty lady once you see them without the makeup. ^^ then again if the train suddenly stop one might end up applying lipstick on another person's face. ^^;
about annoying people on trains, the smelly, crowding or loud mobile talkers I can take, it's the "last second dashing towards the train door squishing innocent bystander" kind that I want to Sparta kick off the train. I remember you mentioned that happens in Japan as well, I wonder if they have it in other countries?

Yeah... farting in a cramped environment is never cool...

Just this morning i saw a girl doing exactly that, her eyebrows i mean, and wanted to get my camera out but didn't .... ahhh .... wish i had now.

I would imagine one of the concerns about applying makeup in the train is for the safety of the person. Mascara (or whatever that lady is using) and other makeup applicators are kind of pointy... what happens if she's holding it up near her eyes and the train makes a sudden lurch or something? Ouch.

Or maybe train officials just don't want to see any women before they've been prettied up...

Tokyo trains don't lurch, do they? Aren't they perrfectly smooth?

I guess makeup is in the category of personal hygiene? I'm always fascinated about the amount of people applying makeup, wet, just showered hair, doing their ties-- its messy? Anti-social even? But I like observing. But when one doesn't can't make-up on the train, what time does one have..?

Where I reside make-up, farts, and cell phones may sometime be the least of one's worries. Many times, you deal with filthy train cars covered in filth, aggressive panhandlers and loud-mouth passengers with far too much built up anger.

The following video is footage from a recent incident that made news within the area. Personally, I have been witness to scenes as crazy as or even crazier than this when riding.

- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-NZtGz_7WI0

That is why I generally avoid trains and any other type of mass transit. On a somewhat similar note, I heard that this girl had been apprehended by authorities--THANK GOODNESS.

When I was in Japan (three years ago), my experience in the trains was great. Compared to trains here, well actually to trains I've been to because where I am there are no trains at all, but to places I've been (Europe, USA, Mexico City) Japanese trains are the best.

i hate people who walk around and use their cellphones like a walkie talkie. it gets really annoying but i guess thats what we have MP3 players for.

The Taibei MRT is pretty sweet, though it does get rather crowded (though not nearly so bad as Tokyo trains, I'm told).

As for the makeup issue, as some people have suggested, perhaps it's a matter of safety – a mascara applicator in the eye would certainly not be pleasant.

Moreover, though, it seems kind of impolite, almost, to do something like that in public. I imagine prevailing Japanese sentiment would demand that such toilette be carried out privately.

Maybe they should start a new sign campaign, showing a lady in a bathrobe with her hair in curlers and green stuff all over her face, brushing her teeth on the train, with the caption: "You wouldn't do all this on a train."

another Danny's sense of humor make my day ^^. Learn new word today & now awared that we can grab owr own fart & cover it on someone else face, wah ahhaha.

*take notes*
Ahh words one can never find in a textbook or dictionary. Danny, you have my thanks =D

me guilty of releasing some ^^. but it was only this one time...

Ah, I just wrote this poem for my English class. It's all based on riding the train experience. Try not to take it too personally.

Annoyed Passenger <-----(Title)

I hate it when people yawn,
sharing their bad breath

I hate how people cross their legs,
especially if they start kicking

I hate it when people tap to their music,
both hands and feet

I hate it when people smell,
like they haven’t bathe for weeks.

I hate it when people turn up their music,
so loud that even I can hear it

I hate how people spit,
like it doesn’t matter here.

I hate it when people litter,
when the garbage can’s right there.

I hate not having better options,
and I hate myself for hating everything.

I didn't realize Japanese people are annoyed at people doing make ups in train. I hardly see it when I was there but it wouldn't annoy me too much. I would not like to see loud mobile phone talkers but not many people do that inside the train due to the manner policy so that's tolerable too. Fart gas would be fatal for sure...

Farts are terrible...but sometimes unavoidable. I might be guilty of occasionally farting in a crowded street, but I always make a swift escape.

Me thinks they should start a common practice of alerting surrounding people of an oncoming fart. It'll make people laugh, it'll be a silly moment, and it'll avoid putting people into a bad mood; ultimately, increasing the level of happiness in the world.

i hate it when the person next to me blast his music loudly for everyone to hear. >.<

I hate people who push even if the train is empty

Farts are bad... indeed... even if you combine them with summer and BO-people.
Such stuff brings me close to faint.
Maybe that makeup stuff isn't wanted if the train stops and the person stabs it's eye due the stoping train? ^^;
In germany trains tend to stop rather harsh so here it would make sense in kind of safety reasons and i never have seen someone put up makeup on a german train.

Nigippe. I learnt a new word today!

I don't know what the fuss is about. It's not like they're endangering anybodies lives. I've seen some ladies doing the very same thing while they're behind the wheel at a red light. That's equally as dangerous as toxic fart gas!

Loud talkers, definitely.
Why?
Farts and BO are sometimes unavoidable. Some people just have it, some don't even know they have it.
I mean, it bothers me a lot... but I can understand.

But people who keep shouting and screaming on cellphones, this is just pure disrespect to others.

A complete lack of consideration.

But girls doing make-up on trains... nah, no problem at all. Maybe it's not because people don't like it, maybe it's for safety reasons?

Also, it all depends on how much make up the ladies are doing, right?

I mean, putting a lipstick and other minor stuff, no problem. Specially with long commuting times, sometimes people need to do some stuff on trains to save some time.

fart at you home LOL jesus!

im agree, manytimes i cant understand japaneses rules
i dont care if a girl is doing make up on the train

i'm usually on earbuds when i'm in trains so loud mobile talkers aren't such a biggy. body odour and occasional farts are a no-no.

I don't get annoyed at seeing girls doing their makeup on trains or in the car while driving in peak hour traffic. I find it quite fascinating really, kind of like a live performance of Photoshop sometimes depending on the subject and the artist. ;)

So between loud mobile talkers versus smelly farters, I'd actually choose smelly farters surprisingly. See smelly farters eventually fades away and you can always pinch your nose and stop breathing for a few seconds. As much as I hate bad smells, when it's loud mobile talkers, you can't really shut your ears can you?

what I really hate is when im hinking on my life, or hearing musci, or just sleepy and then suddenly someone with a guitar enter the train and starts singing/playing the guitar and asking for money.

> Japanese train times are so accurate that you can (usually) set your watch by them.

I don't know about that, my train from Kawasaki to Tokyo was 2 minutes late.

That was incidentally, the only delay I had in 2 weeks holiday in Japan. Here in the UK, a 2 minute delay wouldn't even be classed as a delay.

Try riding some of the subway trains around here in the U.S., they will scare you. Talking on cellphones, makeup girls....guys getting a quick feel???......man, your life is at risk every time you get on one of those things around here. You're more concerned about safety and not getting mugged, than casually annoyed. I guess that is the difference between Japan and America though.

The trains in Japan does seem awesome, though the minor flaws. The most annoying would be the loud cellphone talker, the makeup girls aren't annoying and I have never seen it here in Sweden.

I'm used to loud noises... I've never smelled or heard anybody fart in the trains here before... Talking about smelly smells, everything can be solved using one thing, DEODORANT...

Japanese's people are mostly quite the same than folks on the Paris subway (the smelling, lousy talk on cellphone, etc...) except that we are more galant with old people, pregant women and other handicap people. I don't say that parisians are perfect gentlemen (we are far from that), but there is no japanese gentleman at all in the subway. Spending one month in Tokyo I've never seen a Japanese man or woman leave there seat to an elder one.

Generally can't stand it when there is a riot for nothing, thus people speaking loud in their mobile phones or peoples playing the big man so everyone can hear/see it is very annoying. Just good that these kind of things occurs rarely. Don't see any problems with makeup girls.

IIRC, for many people in Japan, a lady who's publicly putting on make-up make them look like whores. Forgot where I read that.

The trams in my city are pure horror, youngsters that listen to music on their mobile phones, so everyone has to hear it, are probably the worst, they're everywhere! Even on the bus where there's less space. People are too scared to tell them that they should turn it off, because they always walk around in groups listening to their gangster rap shit and they're aggressive as hell. I've seen pretty much everything: Children getting pushed in front of trams, "ghetto" kids insulting old people, fights, threatening and more. Most people use the trams because it's easy to get around town with them, so the trains are less crowded and a lot safer, that's why I use them all the time.

I don't mind women putting make while on train, it means that they care how they look at work. What I hate on trains are people who talk really loud on the phone and smelly ones.

What was annoying when I got on the train after school was a large group of students being loud and not considering other passengers. This got out of hand that those individuals that did anythig wrong would get suspended from school.

In decreasing order of not liking..

Loud mobile speakers > farts > cosmetic.

What I hate more than loud mobile talkers are just loud talkers. Farts are pretty bad too... I don't mind make up girls, but as someone who doesn't wear any makeup I think it's usually a waste of money and time ^__^

Mmmh...I hate.... all lol.

Farting in enclosed spaces is so wrong, I hate walking peoples clouds.

Girls putting on makeup are an annoyance? I guess more annoyance would ensue if some left it off....Loud cellphone talkers really tick me off personally, but (thankfully) I have no experience with farting people.

I don't think I ever saw anyone putting on makeup or talking on the cell on the train.

I really liked the trains when I was in japan. The only problem we had in 16 days was some idiot salery man hanging/swinging from the luggage rack like an ape. Guy was practically sticking his crotch in my wifes face.

I jumped up and gave him a palm thrust to the chest while calling him an idiot in japanese. When it was over I looked around and the other people were smiling and noding their approval.

It was pretty funny.

I voted the cellphone talkers, but actually what irritates me most is the noise blasting out from those mp3 headsets. Those ppl should keep their own noise to themselves >_<

Talk as loud as you want, put on your make up, but fart next to me and I'll be staring at you and giving you the I hate you eyes. Err, I can't stand bad smelly things!

I wish we have trains in my town. Driving around is expensive nowadays... >.<"

You can never get away from smelly people especially if "street people" get on the train, since security is almost no existent here.
But what annoys me the most are people who are loud and intrude on other peoples space. Its like they want everyone to hear about their problems, thats what forums are for haha.

They picked the weirdest thing to complain about... but then again, each culture to its own *shrugs* I can stand up and walk away for noise, but the farts...... oh, god.

Not many choices on that list and the really nasty things are missing.

If I could, I would vote 'smelly people'. You know, those guys who seem shower once a month (if they shower at all, that is) and so on? Every bus has at least one of these guys.
Call me intolerant but I'm offended by those people. They should be thrown out of busses and trains and such.

japanese trains are the opposite of the ones here.

Here trains that only have a total traveling time of 30 mins manage to arrive 20 mins late.

People talking on mobile phones is the least of all problems here, the most annoying is kids listing to music on their mobile phones: loud.

Loud talking people are the most annoying (farting doesn't happen that often, at least not to me). Especially loud girls seem to be the most annoying... Guys are just loud but there's something in girls voice that just hurts your ears if they are too loud.

Farts are disgusting perse, while the other 2 option are not. That how I think.
Santiago´s metro is quite smelly =(

I don't mind at all. In fact I welcome them putting make up on the train. I rode a train just this weekend and there was a pretty woman sitting next to me. She was applying makeup halfway to our destination and when she was done I was amazed that she looked prettier. That was the first time that I got amazed at the power of makeup. heheh.

Farting on the other hand is a big no-no. That is just gross. Most especially when it happens in an elevator. experienced it a hundred times. lol. Really disgusting.

farts can be really annoying especially during summer and in peak hours and those spaces where fans dont work properly.
its like saving yourself from drowning and coming up for air every now and then. ugh!

Of course the farts can be really unpleasant if it lingers and your are sat next to the offending person. But what really gets me is loud people, or more specifically, drunk shouting people who want to either hug you or pick a fight.

Plus, who cares about a woman putting make up on? I don't get the concept.

apparently, because I grew up in a conservative home, trying to comb your hair in public is disrespectful putting make-up on too. I'd understand if a woman had to open her compact mirror to fix her smudged lipstick lest she look like a vampire or something...but some women do make-up in public way overboard and while people need not look, it distracts many actually. Or sometimes they use products that use too much perfume--the same crime of unpleasantness as a fart.

On farting...well it's kinda sad when you do that no? But they say (or so my professor says) some cultures find it unacceptable to even supress laughing at it :P but it's pollution still XD

I have though about it before. It seems nonsense to me. If you need to hide your face behind makeup, why getting out of the house without it, if you don't have to wear makeup to get out of the house why use it at all?

I think most women look better without makeup but that's just me.

I suppose they are putting on make up for an specific audience, office, date, something, and no make up is ok for the rest of the public.

And there is the safety issue.

Well, not loud mobile talkers (cause the loud talking is sometimes nesecarry to communicate through the phone, while on train ^^') themselfs, but just people that talk loudly to eachother. I can't understand why some people here, need to talk out loud, about a party last sunday and how awesomely some person puked there. '~'

well besides loud phonecalls, i guess smelly armpits is a serious problem here..since none of the trains actually come on time in malaysia, quite often you'll end up sandwiched in it... resulting in a lot of armpit-smelling moments T_T'

I also don't care for the large groups of kids who congregate in certain areas and just make a generally large amount of noise. I guess I'm showing my age there. Otherwise, I love trains-- especially Japan's trains. A well designed rail system is an amazing thing.

I had this horrible experience with a fart once. It was at a marching band practice competition and my school's band had just performed. We sat down in the bleachers near these two extremely obese people (SUV size, no joke). Well anyway, this horrible smell, which the only way to describe it as a stink bomb the equivalent of a hydrogen bomb, blasted my face and everyone in the audience. Five seconds before, however, the two obese people walked away. Would have only been a coincedence except they had a bunch of nachos and other mexican food with them.
I can take people talking on phones and doing make up, but a smelly fart always gets me.

I'm fairly amused by the entire series of this "please do it at home" posters I've seen so far, why can't the folks just put something up simple like "please be considerate" ? They must be trying too hard.

Hmm,,, these three wouldn't really wouldn't get me peed off, but I would have to say the loud mobile talkers. If you talk LOUD for an hour straight, then that would irritate me. Just let me sit (or stand) in peace to myself. Flatulence- ehh it kind of happens, can't avoid it.

"It will wrap around you and embrace your soul."

LOL.

well what can i say..... i really hate loud people over the phone & but something i just can't bare is smelly farters ewww!! specially when on the bus i mean when u are on the train u can at least go to the other side of the train but when on bus NOOO!

what annoys me are loud mobile phone sounds that makes some scandal inside the train when it rings >.>

another thing that annoys me is people who crowds and blocks the doors and not going further inside and occupy the spacious aisles >.>

What abt those who insist in blocking your way when you are trying to exit a train? Don't they know I have to get out first before they can get in?
This really gets my goat, or something like that...

Definitely mobile talkers, especially the ones that turn up their phone volume to the max.

The bus I take isn't too crowded, and there aren't very many makeup girls or loud mobilers, so I'll have to say farters are the biggest concern.
What bothers me the most about transit is getting off the bus and being blasted with sand/dust because the streets haven't been washed yet (to get rid of the sand they put down in the winter for traction).

gawd........i made a friggin account just to comment this...
i have far too much time on my hands....

but yea all those things: farting ppl loud talker n not so much makeup girls( unless they were ugly old ladies who put on makeup really annoyingly {no offense}) cuz i bet makeup girls r really cute. but the most annoying would b those ones who run to the door right when it closes n try to get on n shit. like y cant you just stand by the train like evryone else?!

and about the music blasting through headphones....... i do that all the time! cuz i have the shittiest headphones and i tend to sing the words sometimes too =')

o yea n idnt know if this happens to anyone else but ppl who play crappy ringtones like there a mp3 player or something. thats annoying too

o yea those ppl that like butt rite in front of you to get on. thats so annoying cuz they act like they did nothing wrong.... kindof like a dog when it farts n it just looks at you with that face. hey, kindof like those farting ppl on the trains! cool its like the 7 degrees of annoying ppl on trains T__T

Farting on trains? Oh my god! XD I agree that it's really a bad thing, but sometimes you can't avoid it, so you can't do anything. But loud mobile talkers are really annoying. -.- When he or she talks next to you loud then your ear gets hurt eventually. And you can't take no notice of it. For the makeup girls, it's a little funny. They don't have time for it, then they overslept, or when somebody toss them by accident then it could be funny. And they don't make noises.

Smokers with smoked clothes are killing me. A fart is gone by fast. Callers or just loudy ppl in a silence train car are the worst. I need to watch my anime in silence.

What I really HATE when going downtown via the metro/subway or take the bus, is people with very bad BO... and I mean repulsive. >_< And then you have teens (some), who can be annoying and rowdy at times.

I just came back from Japan last month. And here in Vancouver, BC I use the skytrain to go to school. So, here's a comparison (and I think about these alot when on my own trains):

Tokyo trains are always on time (latest since the 50s has been 15 seconds I hear)
---Vancouver trains come whenever they please and sometimes stop in once place for a few minutes

Tokyo trains have long comfortable seating
---Vancouver trains have hard small seats that anyone over 6ft can't sit in properly

Tokyo trains are fast
---Vancouver trains you can sometimes run beside (if they weren't in the air)

There is ONE thing that I like about my trains. The skytrain is above ground 95% of the time while Tokyo transit is below ground often (excluding the JR line which is a nice above-ground train).

As for etiquette: Japanese people are in general more polite. Here you get the occasional loud-cell-talker or rowdy bunch of kids. But it's not all that bad. If we had train rules are strict as Japan we wouldn't obey them anyways.

Smelly people is the worst for me ._.
It really can make you feel bad >_>

Danny, I can't agree more about 'foreign farts' being a somehow purely evil form of soul and mind rape. Oh, and thanks for the useful Nigippe tip, I'll try to get away whenever someone says that in Tokyo when I fly there, lol.

if someone farts thats common to me, what I hate most is smokers