File sharing in Japan

Tue 2008/03/18 06:43 JST
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There has been much talk over the past few days about a recent announcement that Japanese ISPs are going to forcibly cut off users who share files over the internet. But the English press have worded the news to sound different to what was reported in Japan.

Yomiuri English news talks about how P2P users of Winny etc will be cut off from their ISPs and that "The move aims to deal with the rise in illegal copying of music, gaming software and images."

However, the Japan Internet Providers Association released a press release which states that they are after heavy users of Winny and similar P2P software due to the load that those users are placing on the network and not because of any illegal copying. The extra load caused by heavy P2P users causes instability for other internet users.
Nikkei BP also report on the crack down of heavy Winny users but mention nothing about copyrighted material.

There was however some discussions about some sort of crackdown due to copyright material but that was a last September.
While heavy P2P customers may be bad for an ISPs network, cracking down on all forms of P2P including torrents would also be bad for the ISPs - they would loose customers would just cancel their subscription and go elsewhere. This is one of the reasons why I believe that P2P will still live on for quite a while in Japan - just as long as one does not over do it by downloading a zillion GBs of dolphin care material via Winny.

For those who don't know, Winny is Japans most used P2P software - one can find just about *anything* on it. While old material disappears after time with torrents, Winny always seems to have what one maybe looking for.
Member 0ne has a tutorial on how to set up Winny at his blog for those who are interested in internet security.

Winny is also the cause of many embarrassing cases of intellectual property loss - there is a virus that goes around the Winny network that zips up files on ones local drive, takes a snapshot of the desktop and then sends it to the Winny network. Many companies have lost customer information and even a police sargent lost over 10,000 items of data belonging to the metropolitan police - he was using Winny at work... (source).

Today I thought it would be interesting to talk about what sort of restrictions ISPs have in your region. I hear that some of you have a cap on the amount you can download? None of the ISPs over here cap internet usage - its usually a flat fee and one can use as much as they want.

Thanks to the 61 people who sent the yomiuri, tech crunch and gizmodo links.

Nearly forgot to mention about the photo - didn't have a picture of somebody being arrested due to heavy Winny usage so thought I would show an unrelated pic of the office with the new Ikea lights above the figures and near the window ^^;

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  • Martin Wandering
    Martin Wandering in The Wild West (Registered on 2008/02/04)
    Spiral Warrior
    http://www.perfectdesignsense.com/martinwandering

    Back in the States there's a little worry that one'll get busted for file sharing, but here in Taiwan it seems to be a non-issue.

    I look forward to a shining future in which the obsolescence of copyright law will have been recognized and information and media will be freely available to all. Also, we'll live in space colonies.

    Mon 2008/03/17 16:09:55 JST (ID #157629)
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    • HaoDesu
      HaoDesu (Registered on 2009/02/04)
      Video game developer
      http://www.instant-ramen.net

      Though Taiwan is getting more and more bothersome on piracy. Compared to five or ten years ago, Taiwanese streets were soaring with pirated software. It's virtually impossible to find pirated software now on the streets (as it was very common some years ago)

      Fri 2009/02/06 23:49:58 JST (ID #478232)
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  • Last{[0]}Raven
    Last{[0]}Raven in South Korea (Registered on 2008/01/02)
    Raven, AMV & MAD maker, Otaku
    http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=last0raven

    i only file share work documents that are like group work. lol

    Mon 2008/03/17 16:12:31 JST (ID #157630)
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  • Exiled_Gundam
    Exiled_Gundam in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia (Registered on 2007/08/22)
    Castoffable figurines fan

    ISP here do cap speed for torrent, but some torrent client (like Deluge) somehow can bypass it

    Mon 2008/03/17 16:13:35 JST (ID #157633)
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  • GundamJehutyKai
    GundamJehutyKai in Foundation II Stellvia (Registered on 2007/09/12)
    Service desk support
    http://lookingglass.kokidokom.net

    Generally speaking, My ISP which I was with (and will be with again, once they reconnect me after moving home) doesn't restrict download speed but I'm pretty sure it throttles general traffic in the evening as I have noticed slowdown in my surfing late in the evening. Nothing too major tho and everything still works so I don't have any major complaints. Downloads are still (relatively) speedy.

    Mon 2008/03/17 16:25:53 JST (ID #157640)
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  • animefreak222
    animefreak222 (Registered on 2007/05/27)

    haha!another case of the odex paradox on p2p sharing!!(-~-)

    Mon 2008/03/17 16:29:31 JST (ID #157642)
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  • Felix the Cat
    Felix the Cat in Irvine, California (Registered on 2007/10/23)
    UCI Student
    http://www.flickr.com/photos/felix-the-cat/

    As far as torrenting goes, I haven't really heard of many restrictions. My ISP hasn't had a problem with my dowloading, but my friend has lost internet access for a while because he went past his limit. Forgot which ISP it was. The only thing I've had to do is adjust ports for downloading, gaming, etc. Nothing big.

    Mon 2008/03/17 16:32:35 JST (ID #157644)
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  • CrazyO
    CrazyO in Germany (Registered on 2008/02/18)

    As far as i know in germany you cant sue someone for downloading copyrighted material but for sharing. And its not allowed for your ISP to look what you did on the internet except the police suspects you of heavy crimes (terrorism, child pornography and the likes). The european government also recently decided that ISPs dont have to expose their users for crimes related to civil law.

    But some time past since the last time i checked for those things. They could have changed...

    Mon 2008/03/17 16:43:41 JST (ID #157647)
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  • Timotei
    Timotei in Sweden (Registered on 2008/02/17)
    NEET
    http://hobbyjapan.blogspot.com/

    Sweden is in berserk mode to catch people that shares here. Though there has been like 5 cases, so it's not like it's a big chance one will get caught.

    Thepiratebay had a bit problem, it's a sad world we live in.

    I mainly use Utorrent and Share( it's alot safer I heard).

    Mon 2008/03/17 17:18:19 JST (ID #157654)
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  • windbell
    windbell in Singapore/シンガポール, Tokyo/東京 (Registered on 2006/12/25)
    Web Developer/ウェブデベロッパー, Photographer/写真や
    http://www.moeside.net/weblog

    Friends on IRC nickname me 'Winny' ^^;

    We don't have a cap on the bandwidth and pay a flat fee. But due to the ODEX incident I have not been downloading much. In the worst case scenario there's SSH to resort to...

    Is that the Karsten Chair from IKEA? I have one too, pretty comfy.

    Mon 2008/03/17 17:22:24 JST (ID #157656)
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  • Dead Snake
    Dead Snake in Ngayogyakarto Hadiningrat (Registered on 2007/05/11)
    writing mini thesises
    http://kazenomise.net/

    apparently my network admin just sliced off my speed from a shared 512kbps into private 32kbps connection....
    well...can't complain since it's free ^^;;;;

    but most(I think all) of the isp here aren't restricting torrent/p2p, the problem is that the isps here doesn't have any decent speed for almost anything

    Mon 2008/03/17 17:35:47 JST (ID #157660)
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  • Fabian
    Fabian in Germany (Registered on 2008/01/08)
    student

    Over here one ISP is known for throttling file-sharing and especially Bittorrent-traffic even if the customer has a flat rate.

    But then again, this is a good reason for an extraordinary cancellation of the contract, because the general terms and conditions don't say you have to be cost-effective when using the ISPs services.

    What worries me a little bit is a law that forces our ISPs to store connection data (mobile phone, e-mail, internet) for six months. So far only the police and intelligence services can access this data and the former only after an investigating judge allowed them to do so.

    So far this hardly has anything to do with copyrights but I think this might change soon. The European Commission wants to allow copyright holders to access this data in an attempt to fight the sharing of copyright protected stuff over the internet.
    If these plans are carried out we will have the absurd situation that it's easier for the film and music industry to access the ISPs data than it is for the police.
    If you ask me it's pretty obvious that a few black suitcases changed hands a while back, because for me it's hard to believe that the European Commission really is that dumb.

    German file-sharers may be lucky, because it's highly likely that our Federal Constitutional Court will overturn the law forcing the ISPs to store the connection data (for a long time) in first place by the end of this month. It's obvious that this law is unconstitutional.

    Mon 2008/03/17 17:49:03 JST (ID #157667)
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  • Hatix
    Hatix in Antwerp, Belgium (Registered on 2007/04/25)
    IT, Programmer, Otaku, ...
    http://blog.jpopdb.org/

    Well, Belgium was (and still is) quite well known for its expensive broadband and download/upload limits. But it's getting better due to more competition.

    Years ago I started with a broadband connection of 50eur with a limit of 10gb (of which was 1gb upload, so basically only 9gb download). Then they changed it to 15gb (woohoo), of which 1.5gb upload. Now it's better, now have a broadband connection of 40eur and 100gb download&upload. But it's only slowly going to unlimited, with some providers giving unlimited upload but still limiting download. There are of course always more expensive connections or business connections...
    I wish it was here like in Sweden of Japan...

    Mon 2008/03/17 17:51:08 JST (ID #157669)
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  • Caitlin
    Caitlin in Japan (Registered on 2008/03/07)
    Dancing Monkey
    http://caitlinomara.com

    Glad to see that and I hope they're not lying or padding their words. I'm not a Winny user or a heavy bandwidth user but I do like some US shows that I can't get here, even with satellite TV.

    Mon 2008/03/17 17:55:22 JST (ID #157673)
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  • CrazyO
    CrazyO in Germany (Registered on 2008/02/18)

    i cant reply here, is this normal?

    anyway @fabian: do you have any sources for this? Because the latest things i found are saying the opposite: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/08/03/europe_music-downloads_identification/

    Mon 2008/03/17 18:23:37 JST (ID #157693)
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  • Nai
    Nai in Hungary (Registered on 2007/08/22)
    IT

    In Hungary, the two main ISP providers has limits (150gb-250gb / month) of downloading, and after that they issue you with a warning, then ban, if you dont hold yourself back. But there are many other isps, mainly little ones who dont care about this, but, only in the capital of Hungary. In the countryside the people are not that lucky, only 1 or 2 isp providers.

    Mon 2008/03/17 18:42:50 JST (ID #157699)
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  • Ben-Ohki
    Ben-Ohki in Ottawa - Canada (Registered on 2007/12/03)
    Programmer
    http://benohki.blogspot.com

    One of Canada's largest ISP (Bell Sympatico) recently admitted to throttling speeds after many years of denial. While Canada's laws a little more vague than in the US, Canadian ISPs will indeed comply with warnings from US IP owners when abuse is reported - I should know (I was sent a take-down notice once for torrenting some software)... of course, nothing ever came of it and it was my first warning anyway. My ISP would rather keep my $45 per month than to let me leave to find another ISP. :P

    Mon 2008/03/17 18:46:33 JST (ID #157700)
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  • Ejlan
    Ejlan in Sweden (Registered on 2008/01/07)
    Student

    Here in Sweden we have a flat fee and no cap that i know of. And atm we Swedish users don't have much worry about(i may be a little after on this but i think it's still correct) since they aren't allowed to collect out IP addresses and mostly of the heavier p2p users use torrents or other more private alternatives

    Mon 2008/03/17 18:53:10 JST (ID #157705)
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  • Aaronime
    Aaronime in Mars, Canada (Registered on 2007/07/27)
    Human

    w00t~! Canada! Just the fact we're right beside big brother USA that has the world's largest entertainment industry- and downloading torrents/p2p/filesharing isn't illegal here! Infact they protect us when there's an issue with MPAA or w/e.
    They sometimes block Canadian IPs, but i've been using proxies ever since the beginning of high school =D

    Mon 2008/03/17 19:03:07 JST (ID #157718)
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  • CrazyAnimeTuga
    CrazyAnimeTuga in Portugal (Registered on 2007/01/02)
    Student
    http://animestuff.wordpress.com/

    I don't have a download cap anymore thx to plus 7,5€ XD on my internet bill.
    The internet was made to share information with everyone and that information involves everything, from music, video, images, news but it was made to be shared as personal gain only and according to international laws information no matter its origins its free. So this things of blocking ISPs and crap is just plain wrong.

    There is no decline in the music industry, not in the movies either. The bands don't earn much money from the selling of their CDs only the distributors do and the bands win almost nothing their real money comes from concerts. Anyone who likes a good movie goes to the cinema or wait till it comes out on DVD or Blu-Ray because downloading them you'll only probably get a good image but the true image and sound quality are inside the original disc.

    Mon 2008/03/17 19:09:27 JST (ID #157725)
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  • microdark
    microdark in Portugal (Registered on 2007/12/04)
    University Student

    File sharing is easy on Portugal, even the isp provider ease it up, there is n limit at the port range (I saw people in other countries complaining that they can't use P2P) and the traffic limit is wide large (I've got 80gig of international download, ilimited national download as well as upload for 35€). The is the legal problem to, recently, one of the great P2P distribution site(torrent, named Btuga, for those that are interested) was closed by the police and the owner was charged of copyright infringement. I don't have trouble because most anime, 95% of it, isn't licensed in Portugal, so there isn't any problem(I have some in portuguese to =P ).

    Mon 2008/03/17 19:15:00 JST (ID #157728)
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  • lostandfound
    lostandfound in Singapore (Registered on 2007/10/21)
    Hikikomori in the making
    http://supermariabros.deviantart.com/

    Shhh! Don't tell anyone... Oh yeah! I'm not from Singapore...

    Mon 2008/03/17 19:36:54 JST (ID #157742)
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  • chuy
    chuy in Thailand (Registered on 2007/09/28)
    Student
    http://chuymaster.exteen.com

    I don't have a data usage limitation. But the speed is usually slower in a peak time. Unfortunately, connection to oversea is not really good. I usually get about 10-50% of my real connection speed when connecting to oversea.

    Mon 2008/03/17 19:41:36 JST (ID #157747)
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  • Evil King
    Evil King in Vlaardingen, the Netherlands, Earth (Registered on 2007/12/18)
    Student and full-time otaku

    Some ISP's here still have download limits, but it seems to be disappearing. I most often use the newsgroups, but the newest shows go from the torrents. I recently switched from Azureus to uTorrent and I'm loving it: the latter doesn't soak up RAM to impossible levels.

    BTW I just love the office Danny and how you nicely fit the figures in there. My room is just crappy if it comes to displaying, in the attic with crooked ceilings and no free walls...

    Mon 2008/03/17 20:19:02 JST (ID #157763)
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  • Fabian
    Fabian in Germany (Registered on 2008/01/08)
    student

    @CrazyO: Looks like I confused the European Commission's plan to filter the internet traffic with our government's plan to give copyright holders easier access to the connection data of ISPs.

    So it's not the EU Commission but the German government/Bundesrat that...err..cares 'a little bit' too much about what the content industry wants.

    As far as sources go:
    (German): http://www.heise.de/newsticker/EU-Antipiraterie-Plaene-finden-Beifall-im-Bundesrat--/meldung/105097
    http://www.ipjur.com/2007/01/german-government-passes-bill-for.php3

    The latter is written by an patent attorney so it's mainly about patent enforcement, but most of this applies to ordinary copyright enforcement as well. I haven't found a better source in English language.

    Mon 2008/03/17 20:32:16 JST (ID #157772)
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  • Benjamin Takeyo
    Benjamin Takeyo in Lieu de la batille decisive (Registered on 2007/12/04)
    ひきこもり/Hikikomori. Suits my current state more than a 大学生/University Student. ^^

    Well, based on my experiences on these three countries.

    In order of when I first had broadband experience:

    Australia - medium to high speed with silly download quota and Telstra. No torrents blocking/shaping, except if your ISP is Exetel.
    Well, then again, there is TPG with their 150 GB plan... but I left Australia before I had the chance to taste that plan, and I was with TPG, too! >_<

    Indonesia - the bare minimum speed to be called broadband, however unlimited download is available at a more affordable price. No torrents blocking/shaping.

    Malaysia - the best I've had so far. Low to medium speed, unlimited download at about half the price I paid in Australia and Indonesia. My ISP (Izzi) don't shape/block torrents, however TM Nuts and many other ISPs block.

    Japan still rule! There will be 1.2 gbps connection there in the near future, right?.. drollllll ^^

    Mon 2008/03/17 20:46:35 JST (ID #157778)
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  • Boris
    Boris in USA (Registered on 2006/12/25)
    Visual Communications and Web 2.0
    http://www.imagineboris.com

    Rather then upgrade their network they seem to want to filter the traffic. :-( Same thing is happening in USA with Comcast ISP (cable internet). They are now limiting your data if you download too much and you can receive an angry email from them saying you been downloading illegal copyright materials. They are mostly doing this because of network load. Since they have a very large number of users and main monopoly in most areas. Also, with FiOs internet by Verizon (which is faster then cable) they need to keep their server running fast.

    I agree that P2P even with restrictions and ban of users will not go away. Its a large part of the online life. There will always be ISP that does not filter traffic and they will receive users that move away from ISP that does limit/filter traffic. (sorry I wrote too much) hehe

    ^_^

    Mon 2008/03/17 20:49:50 JST (ID #157779)
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  • PoWeR
    PoWeR in Vancouver (Registered on 2007/08/28)
    Student
    http://www.xfire.com/profile/power1x1/

    Thats a relief lol... anyways I can't even file-share that much with a 30kb/s Broadband connection... (Cursed Shawcable charges too much)

    kinda makes me envy ppl living in Japan lol

    Mon 2008/03/17 21:01:50 JST (ID #157792)
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  • laughingman
    laughingman in Canada (Registered on 2007/11/18)
    McMaster Mechanical Engineering & Management II
    http://www.virtualinfusion.net/

    spread the love in the gray side of the law in Canada. Piracy is such a gray issue here, that no one seems to openly arise the question of restrictions; well, the American companies have been trying to sway Canadian legislatures to do something about it, but it won't happen for a while I'm guessing.

    Anyways, share the love, but if you love so much, try and get the actual copy is what I always like to say. I usually end up buying the whole cd's of certain artists whose song I've downloaded, and even the same for Manga read off the internet and movies.

    Mon 2008/03/17 21:11:54 JST (ID #157800)
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  • squee
    squee in Singapore (Registered on 2007/09/26)
    Techie
    http://squeejunkyard.blogspot.com/

    The reason unlimited access high speed internet exist is for us to download lotsa stuff fast. Who the hell is gonna get say 10mbps unlimited connections to read emails.

    Mon 2008/03/17 21:20:56 JST (ID #157803)
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  • Tami
    Tami in Germany - Düsseldorf (Registered on 2007/12/16)
    IT-Architect, SysAdmin, WebDesign and Coding, Virtualization (VMware + NetApp)
    http://www.milkdrop.de/

    Hmm i quit using any kind of file sharing tools a long time ago... prolly over 6 or 7 years ago.
    Though the current stuff ongoing in germany about the laws and such is quiet annoying, though Fabian did cover it himself enough. ;)
    I never had any troubles with the ISPs i had in my past over "to-much-traffic" or whatever, seems i have been lucky (and yes i do DL a loooot... just not via filesharing tools - to afraid - i have other means ^^).
    As for your IKEA lamps, i see you got the ones i use too. Though i don't know if it's because it's a picture or whatever but i think the top shelf gets to much light compared to the lower ones... maybe try to adjust the light better?
    In any case, now that i see how your shelfes are i would have went with indirect lightning from under the shelfes - little fluorescent tubes from computer case modding or such, they have easy to hide small 12V cables too. Their light isn't to bright but makes a nice warm atmosphere around the figures i would think, it works for my BONDE rack though. ^^

    Mon 2008/03/17 21:22:45 JST (ID #157804)
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  • squee
    squee in Singapore (Registered on 2007/09/26)
    Techie
    http://squeejunkyard.blogspot.com/

    The reason unlimited access high speed internet exist is for us to download lotsa stuff fast. Who the hell is gonna get say 10mbps unlimited connections to read emails.

    Mon 2008/03/17 21:29:46 JST (ID #157806)
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  • Vincent III
    Vincent III in Pittsburgh, PA (Registered on 2007/03/22)
    College Student/Web Designer

    It's good you clarified what the situation was exactly, due to I always thought it was an anti-p2p crackdown. Regardless I still think this is going to do more harm than good. I can't say this for everyone, but P2P has opened me up to more anime, music and games then I could even imagine 10 years ago. I do refuse to download domestic (US) materials, but I only download import materials due to lack of being able to even listen to it in the US without buying it for a high price. All the J-Rock and J-Pop getting more popular in the US is more than likely from P2P. Most big animes that get popular here are first popular from P2P. If there is a game, movie or album I enjoy, I will go out and buy it. If they cut that off, I believe they are cutting off this new-stream of Japanese Culture to people interested in it.

    Mon 2008/03/17 21:30:12 JST (ID #157807)
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  • microdark
    microdark in Portugal (Registered on 2007/12/04)
    University Student

    It's seems that the country's with the highest speed connections, like Japan, are the ones having trouble, guess that they haven't learned that speed isn't all, if the centrals (don't know the name given to them) can´t handle the amount of connections and the speed, then, they should upgrade first this and them give a boost to the speed, this is what is happening in Portugal, first the central, then the line and last, give the speed.

    Mon 2008/03/17 21:32:44 JST (ID #157809)
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  • MrShawn
    MrShawn in Houston, Texas (Registered on 2008/01/19)
    Student
    http://mrshawn16.blogspot.com

    The USA has too much to worry about. They dont focus much on the people that steals files from the rich.

    Mon 2008/03/17 21:46:10 JST (ID #157818)
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  • Saku
    Saku in Toronto (Registered on 2008/02/07)
    Wannabe Web Developer
    http://www.sakuafk.com

    Here in Canada, file sharing is a grey matter as someone already says and there is no rules (AFAIK) that really states that you can't use p2p (download and upload).

    Based on my experience with multiple ISPs, they really hate it when you do file sharing (uploading files) because I think it puts too much load on their network in comparison to download. Hence why some ISPs are probably throttling your speed when you use p2p softwares especially torrents.

    I know for a fact that my ISP rogers cable throttles my internet every friggin time I use torrents and even suspend my internet for couple hours (tech supports probably gonna say " there is no problem with our network " line when you call XD. I did a little experiment with this by opening 15 files at the same time using torrents and left it overnight. When I woke up, I got no internet until I called tech support -.- .

    In addition, they block certain ports so your D/L and U/L speed on torrent is uber slow unless you can find an unblock port.

    As for myself, I strictly use mIRC and direct download because having torrents really causes some major lags on my online gaming.

    Rogers has bandwith limit caps on each of their internet package ,however, if you go over, there is no extra charges as long as it's within reasonable amount XD.

    Sorry for the long comment XD

    Mon 2008/03/17 22:05:12 JST (ID #157823)
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  • Akiba-Kid
    Akiba-Kid in California, USA (Registered on 2008/01/17)
    Online Shop
    http://wildarms.egloos.com

    I remember one time, my hard drive crashed and I lost many of the precious stuffs(let's call them health materials). I bought a new hard drive and put Winny on full drive to get all my datas back. I guess I downloaded about 200GB worth of stuffs and then I got a letter from my ISP telling me that if I keep using bandwidth like that, they will ban me from their service.

    I guess that can relate to this post somewhat. But I don't use my bandwidth like that anymore but if my hard drive crash again, who knows...

    Mon 2008/03/17 22:09:58 JST (ID #157826)
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  • neko
    neko in Sangenjaya, Tokyo (Registered on 2007/02/10)
    IT specialist
    http://blog.kheops2002.ch

    filesharing in switzerland is also on the gray side of the law, well partially. As long as you don't upload you don't have to fear anything.
    That's why more and more ppl here are using Usenet.
    I started to use Usenet a few months ago and it's awesome, never got that much speed from another "filesharing" software.

    Actually i upgraded my connection to 25Mbit down and 250Kbit up.
    The only thing my ISP is doing when someone uses too much bandwith (like 200-300GB DL per month) is setting the download speed a little bit back :) for a short time. haha

    Mon 2008/03/17 22:17:38 JST (ID #157829)
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  • super rats
    super rats in Philadelphia, PA (USA) (Registered on 2007/01/15)
    Everything
    http://www.happysoda.com

    I don't do file sharing.

    Really, all I want to do is say, man that's the kind of office I want to work in. Figures and a big wall hanging.

    Mon 2008/03/17 22:17:43 JST (ID #157830)
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  • Requiem
    Requiem in Mars (Registered on 2007/11/07)
    Web developer

    The load problem is of course the service provider's fault, but I'm not complaining.

    The short story is, they were offering an unlimited (or very high) amount of bandwidth that they knew they couldn't deliver but though nobody would use. This is like selling a 100mg box of pocky that is only 70mg, its a major fraud.

    But their carelessness allowed the flourishment of heavy traffic protocols like bittorrent and has benefited a lot of customers.

    Mon 2008/03/17 23:49:25 JST (ID #157848)
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  • e-jump
    e-jump in Malaysia (Registered on 2007/12/22)
    Engineer by weekdays, Hikki by weekends
    http://ejump.wordpress.com/

    I used to be a heavy DCC/BT downloader/leecher. But since our network here is crappily slow and unsteady thanks to old backbone, I cut my activity accordingly, and baing considerate to other users.
    But then again, users in malaysia are kind of noob in BT, and once they just learnt how to BT, they tend to abuse it and download the internet 24/7.
    Typical 'JAKUN'.

    Tue 2008/03/18 00:03:49 JST (ID #157849)
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  • まっすぐGO!
    まっすぐGO! in Melbourne, Australia (Registered on 2007/11/19)

    Here everyone is limited. I get 10GB a month, but I'm waiting for ADSL2+ to be built so I can get 40GB + 110GB off peak (1am-7am).

    So it's the same as Japan except Japan is limiting people to maybe 10,000 GB instead of 10GB.

    I used Winny a few years ago but I couldn't find much on it. It could be that I wasn't connected long enough to connect to lots of people. I use bittorrent, then IRC.

    Tue 2008/03/18 00:31:13 JST (ID #157859)
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  • qingy
    qingy in front of the monitor (Registered on 2007/10/05)
    Gunpla Enthusiast

    starting to look like another ODEX incident from my vintage point. i'm not about to write anything incriminating against myself on this public blog so i'll just give my opinion of the practice of file sharing.

    this is an often debated issue in regards to copyright laws and personal privacy, but nearly everyone that uses the internet practices some form of file sharing, whether it'd be downloading music, movies, or sharing photos over e-mails. while some of it may be illegal, a large portion of the population do not do it with the intent of hurting the music and movie industries. in fact, it has been shown that people who download and sample music are more likely to purchase the music then people who do not. those that say otherwise just want to make more money. instead of trying to stop file sharing, people should be coming up with ways to embrace the idea and make money from it.

    in regards to the news of ISPs cracking down on file sharing, i personally think of it as a hollow threat from a practical standpoint. you have internet users that practice file sharing, but you must remember that these guys are paying customers of ISPs. aggressively cracking down on your customers only hurt you on the long run due to loss of business or reputation. at the end of the day, its best not to anger your paying customers or else you'll just be screwing yourself over. just look at what ODEX did, and now they're hated by the entire anime community in Singapore.

    Tue 2008/03/18 00:42:30 JST (ID #157864)
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  • Angelyro
    Angelyro in Dublin, Ireland (French inside ;) (Registered on 2008/02/24)
    Credit Risk Analyst
    http://requiem-anime.net

    Well, I have 2 point of views:
    - from France
    - from Ireland

    From France, you can have 20m connection uncap + free phone toward 50 countries + free digital TV for 30 euros per month. Optical fiber is coming in specific areas, you can have 100m/100m for around 45 Euros uncap.
    Problem: Olivenne chart want to repress illegal dl by graduated repression going ban you from using internet for years & writing your name onto a blacklist.

    From Ireland where I m living now, I have a 512ko uncap for + TV via cable internet for 60 euros per month ! I m missing France :x.

    Tue 2008/03/18 00:49:34 JST (ID #157871)
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  • chun
    chun in need to be in bed (Registered on 2007/01/09)
    part time illustrationist, doll clothing seamstress
    http://puppy52art.com/

    love your office danny! :D I love my home office too, it's not as neat as yours tho ^^; (My husband tries - I think he does a great job already, but I have a lot of stuff LOL)

    Tue 2008/03/18 01:44:08 JST (ID #157892)
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  • Henry
    Henry in /usr/bin/ (Registered on 2006/12/25)
    anime/cosplay events organizer
    http://www.cosplay.ph

    isn't this voluntary?

    but whatever it is, this is a drastic move by the Japanese ISP Association but what they are doing is self-destruction.

    here, we don't have a cap on the download size but we do have a cap on the speed that you get. the higher the speed, the higher the fee that you'll be paying. the speed here is pretty decent but i want japan's dl speed =3

    and yeah, i too share files over the intarwebs =3

    Tue 2008/03/18 02:25:22 JST (ID #157901)
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  • Edward
    Edward in SE Michigan/Osaka (Registered on 2006/12/24)
    Troubleshooter, Universal Exports
    http://funkyblueame.tumblr.com/

    It wasn't al that long ago that Comcast was controlling data upload for P2P users. Essentially they where using software to detect P2P traffic and making it difficult for users to seed. After all anyone who uses P2P is a criminal engaging in criminal activities. You know all of us Skype users and such... After some negative press and being unable to justify their actions they backed off some. Check this out if you want to read more.

    http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20071023-comcast-shooting-itself-in-the-foot-with-traffic-shaping-explanations.html?rel

    I use P2P to get my Japanese drama and anime. I download what is on television in Japan and nothing more.

    Wow the office is looking nice! Looks like a nice environment for you and Hector to get things done. Reminds me a lot of my office/den in Florida. God I miss that space a lot! It's not easy working here in this small bedroom.

    Tue 2008/03/18 03:11:29 JST (ID #157925)
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  • Neil Duckett
    Neil Duckett in Yoyogi, Tokyo (Registered on 2007/11/06)
    Software Engineer
    http://www.neilduckett.com

    I don't see how they can enforce this without banning the source.

    Tue 2008/03/18 04:53:30 JST (ID #157954)
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  • Hayden
    Hayden in London, UK (Registered on 2007/01/06)
    Custom Pc Builder, Muppet, Pyromaniac, Demolitions Expert, Guitar Slinger,
    http://myspace.com/dyingoblivion

    its was on the news recently here in the UK (I say here but relocated to Hong Kong, China temporarily since yesterday) on a 'Green Paper' which i have been told is what politicians use as toilet paper. that the RIAA or MPAA are trying to impose some sort of ruling/law on ISP's to force them to bann customers who use their connection for filesharing.

    already in the UK we are subjected to a 'fair usage' policy when signing up with 97% of all ISPs which means we are limited in how much bandwidth we can use a month.

    also a recent UK survey found out that most ISPs were selling customers short of what they paid for respectively & only 2% of customers only get the full speed that they pay for. which is another issue that should be taken up but for some mundane reason is not.

    so why do ISPs sell anything higher then a 128/256/512kb/s connection if they do not want us to download? its like having a stupidly expensive Buggati supercar but only driving it up & down your driveway. there is no logic to it.

    im currently sitting here in my apartment in hong kong with a 6mb connection with unrestricted download limits on top of that its stupidly cheap!

    Tue 2008/03/18 04:54:55 JST (ID #157955)
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  • Brian the Bear
    Brian the Bear in Taipei, Taiwan (Registered on 2008/03/14)
    Engineer
    http://www.24bear.com/

    I'm using AT&T DSL (6.0 Mbps down / 768 kbps up) here in the states, which they don't cap anything. However, I'm not a P2P user. I get my entertainment by streaming from Veoh.com; so it's not too bandwidth intensive.

    Off topic (sorta) are O'Reilly books good for beginners on web developments? I kind of want to get into building content intensive websites in the future.

    Tue 2008/03/18 05:03:11 JST (ID #157962)
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  • Jed D`Lagged
    Jed D`Lagged in Tokyo (Registered on 2008/03/18)
    Remote Support Engineer
    http://jedling.wordpress.com

    Personally, I think P2P is one direction the interwebs is heading. Seriously, either companies find ways to tie it into contracts somehow, and use peoples underused CPU and bandwidth... or the botnets will.

    With the way the intertubes are at the moment, it's too difficult to stop P2P. And if you can't beat 'em...

    Didn't I read recently that Europe just invested heavily in P2P technology?

    Tue 2008/03/18 06:13:49 JST (ID #157988)
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  • marvin
    marvin (Registered on 2006/12/24)
    http://www.marvinryan.com

    Henry,
    I think one of the ISP called ZPDee had a cap on how much bytes you can download. however they have long since stop doing that, since the other ISP started offering the same service without the cap. ^^
    thank God for capitalism and free competition. ^^

    Tue 2008/03/18 07:29:25 JST (ID #157999)
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  • Kazearashi
    Kazearashi in Indonesia --> Singapore (Registered on 2008/03/10)
    Animation Student
    http://kazenomise.net/

    O noes... There goes our raws...

    Hope there's no significant changes on the raws circulation. I still need my fix.

    Tue 2008/03/18 08:08:34 JST (ID #158013)
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  • RyoHazuki
    RyoHazuki in Tokyo, Japan (Registered on 2007/07/23)

    Hi Danny,

    I've ditched Torrents/xMule/SoulSeek and similar programs.

    What I have been doing nowadays using using newgroups binaries. I've subscribed with one of the biggest news provider and also took their SSL add on.

    Its much faster than torrents, more secured, encrypted. I am a happy person since then.

    Recommended.

    Tue 2008/03/18 08:44:32 JST (ID #158029)
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  • zephyranthez
    zephyranthez in Jakarta, Singapore, Australia, Earth (Registered on 2008/02/16)
    ダメ人間, ひきこもり

    the net is getting more and more strict >.<
    I once heard from a friend that Singapore catch down people using LimeWire because of bandwidth issue. Recently they're catching illegal anime downloaders, though. lol they have too much cash to spend on tracking the customers -__-

    Tue 2008/03/18 10:28:48 JST (ID #158049)
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  • vodak
    vodak in Cleveland, Ohio, USA (Registered on 2008/03/18)
    VoIP Technician
    http://www.vodakdesign.com

    I never saw a problem with file sharing at the ISPs I have worked in the past. Of course they were both smaller organizations so the flow of email was more or a problem for me. do I file share? No. I'm antisocial that way.

    Tue 2008/03/18 10:53:49 JST (ID #158056)
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  • oxAndr
    oxAndr in Sydney, Australia (Registered on 2007/12/14)
    Systems Engineer
    http://www.mechacentral.com

    Agree with Jed D`Lagged: ISPs and Ip owners MUST learn to get their money out of P2P traffic if they want to survive.
    ADV Films in US started to distribute their supplement materials (like trailers and artwork) via Bittorrent but it sort of half-alive at the moment...
    By the way, Danny, is this something Mirai Inc may be interested in doing :)? I know, I am probably asking too much, but why not?

    Tue 2008/03/18 13:45:19 JST (ID #158088)
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  • cuteninja
    cuteninja (Registered on 2008/02/26)
    Auditor Junior

    the internet industry is still flourishing here so speeds are not very fast.currently i am using 64k cable internet with unlimited download sucks i know thinking of swithing to DSL 512k with unlimited download for 12000Rs= 1859 YEN.cost will increase though :( .some isps have download limits on dsl and recently download limits are finishing. 1mb or 2 mb connections for a long time didnt have download limits but too expensive 1 mb connection for 2000RS=3100 yen and 2 mb for 5000 RS=7748 YEN :((

    Tue 2008/03/18 14:24:20 JST (ID #158107)
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  • [Enigma]
    [Enigma] in Singapore (Registered on 2008/02/26)
    National Service

    lols... ever heard of the odex incident? = lol... i bet most ppl here from singapore has...

    Tue 2008/03/18 15:18:53 JST (ID #158132)
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  • Ninja Mari
    Ninja Mari in Japan (Registered on 2007/11/06)
    Japanese Student
    http://japanqna.wordpress.com

    I heard from some people that some Japanese ISPs have been warning users who get caught downloading copyrighted material. Do you think they will in the future?

    Tue 2008/03/18 16:25:28 JST (ID #158148)
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  • andra
    andra in Singapore (Registered on 2007/11/06)
    中学生
    http://thezhukeeper.blogspot.com

    why must the first word that flows into my mind be - "ODEX"...?

    I think here doesn't have a cap on bandwidth and the fee's flat as prata. But thanks to the above mentioned word; I'm suffering from anime withdrawal T^T

    Tue 2008/03/18 17:49:04 JST (ID #158174)
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  • zie
    zie in Arlington,VA USA (Registered on 2007/01/09)
    freelance

    I see the crack down is hard everywhere i use to use P2P but once i got my mac i decided to not use it. It takes up to much space.

    Tue 2008/03/18 17:59:55 JST (ID #158177)
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  • radical anime fan
    radical anime fan in Singapore, Furnace City, Cinderblock Outskirts. (Registered on 2007/01/25)
    Polytechnic Junior, Bronze Lifesaving Trainee, Mech Designer In-training.
    http://thehangerbay.wordpress.com/

    People downloading 700 tetra bytes of health care images are lagging up the network XD

    I don't know much about IPS restrictions, if there are any, in my area; I watch anime online(never mind the quality) so I don't really pay attention to that. But the main distributor of anime in Singapore, ODEX, has issued anime downloaders two choices since last year: Pay a fee for "damage compensation" of either S$3000 or S$5000 depending on the amount of downloads, or face a lawsuit. ODEX obtained permission from Internet provides here to give them a user's IP address, never mind their privacy policy, and since then ODEX has collected quite a sum; from 9-yr old anime kids to older downloaders. However, they claim that those monies are barely keeping with covering for the operation cost of this purge.

    Moar info here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Odex#Controversy

    Wed 2008/03/19 06:01:05 JST (ID #158475)
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  • D_Blade
    D_Blade in Montreal (Registered on 2006/12/31)
    Non-profit org. volunteering work addict

    Late comment, but I wanted to say I gave up on torrent s and the like a while ago.

    Wed 2008/03/19 07:22:27 JST (ID #158496)
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  • Elozt E. Elric
    Elozt E. Elric in Singapore (Registered on 2007/08/12)
    Engineer / IT Student
    http://elozt.wordpress.com/

    Well, P2P services can be damaging to the business, however, if you look at it from a different perspective, it too can bring some cultural aspects across to the newer generations (e.g anime ^^;) and thus open a potential market for more customers/buyers/investors abroad.

    There's pros and cons to everything I suppose. But how much does the pros or the cons weight, heavily depends on the person's personal point of view.

    Wed 2008/03/19 14:47:45 JST (ID #158608)
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  • Len-Vesper
    Len-Vesper in Quebec City, Canada (Registered on 2008/02/16)
    Network Architect, Administrator, Vmware Guru
    http://www.finetoo.org/

    It's actually going to be interesting to see how the Japanese ISPs are going to try and handle the issue, and if they plan on also addressing inbound connections as well.

    Would be disappointing if there was some measure of overstepping bounds and starting to lock out incoming ips to winny sharepoints as well. Nonetheless it will only be a matter of time before people come up with 'another winny' to replace this one if they start a detection method for the packets or whatnot. There will always be someone a step ahead.

    Wed 2008/03/19 16:10:29 JST (ID #158630)
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  • gordon
    gordon in 新加坡 Singapore (Registered on 2007/06/11)
    銀河帝国五〇一軍团 TK/TD 8316 M.E.P.D. Police Sergeant
    http://gordonator.com/

    an advertisement on file sharing in singapore.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hocXOBC0UNQ

    Wed 2008/03/19 20:33:47 JST (ID #158742)
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  • notfair
    notfair in Malaysia (Registered on 2007/08/14)
    Student, ACG Fans
    http://modvisc.blogspot.com

    me here still ok, p2p sometime working sometime not working(i think is ISP problem), now subscribe to other "underground" service :p.

    Fri 2008/03/21 13:42:02 JST (ID #159512)
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  • Revolution
    Revolution in Canada (Registered on 2008/01/19)
    http://animeartsociety.freeforums.org/

    NO CAP ON BANDWIDTH USAGE??????? If they're so concern with overuse by Winny users, why not just introduce a bandwidth surcharge like Bell does? They get to make money at the same time and doesn't scare off the customers too much, right?

    Mon 2008/04/21 04:32:20 JST (ID #173129)
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  • amasero
    amasero in USA, Maryland (Registered on 2008/05/13)
    anime junky :3
    http://www.youtube.com/ThisGuyJohn

    from what i know about here in america, there's no cap in bandwidth (at least by most companies) and no cap in anything in general. the problem is that the internet is soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo slow where i live. 15Mbps for verizon fios is like $40-50 a month, and $30-40 a month for 5Mbps. (some areas like NY where there is much more ISP competition, there is a small boost in speed which is an approximately extra 5Mpbs.. still so slow compared to japan/korea)

    and word from my cousin was that a friend/photographer from our cousin's wedding almost got fined 30k because comcast ratted him out for file sharing and he acted like a complete FOB to get out of it somehow which is amazing on it's own :x

    my point: internet in america SUCKS.

    Fri 2008/05/16 04:55:31 JST (ID #188798)
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  • PTSnake
    PTSnake in Portugal (Registered on 2008/05/11)
    sysop
    http://www.wowtuga.org/forum/

    i'm an avid P2P/DDL user... i use more than 1TB monthly most of the times

    Fri 2008/07/18 07:23:05 JST (ID #241112)
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  • sam.
    sam. in SE Asia, Universe (Registered on 2008/10/26)
    waisting money on studying..
    http://www.thefascinations.co.cc

    here we have extremely suck internet providers.. the only thing that disturbing here is that the billing is damn expensive every month.

    Sat 2009/01/31 20:55:08 JST (ID #469807)
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  • Frugalista Japan
    Frugalista Japan in Kyoto, Japan (Registered on 2009/01/15)
    English Teacher (university)
    http://frugalistajapan.gaijinstuff.com/

    Winny is a poor excuse for filesharing and will die out the way of Napster - Japan needs to learn that torrents are a far more reliable and untraceable way to download (whatever your download may be). It's quite paradoxical how the actual internet backbone of Japan is lightyears ahead of the rest of the world, yet the software and websites they run on it is ten years in the past at best. Japanese always seem to be rather slow on the uptake for web technologies, which is damn shame because of all the amazing hardware that exists here.

    Anyway, my NTT fibre-optic line is 6000 yen a month and worth every penny of it. Advice to anyone coming to Japan - do not be fooled into getting YahooBB - their service is even more unrealiable than the connections in the states and UK, far slower than stated speeds, and will give you a

    Thu 2009/02/05 03:35:33 JST (ID #475311)
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  • Frugalista Japan
    Frugalista Japan in Kyoto, Japan (Registered on 2009/01/15)
    English Teacher (university)
    http://frugalistajapan.gaijinstuff.com/

    Winny is a poor excuse for filesharing and will die out the way of Napster - Japan needs to learn that torrents are a far more reliable and untraceable way to download (whatever your download may be). It's quite paradoxical how the actual internet backbone of Japan is lightyears ahead of the rest of the world, yet the software and websites they run on it is ten years in the past at best. Japanese always seem to be rather slow on the uptake for web technologies, which is damn shame because of all the amazing hardware that exists here.

    Let me give you another example to demonstrate this~ Mixi. Mixi is the biggest social community site in Japan, but it basically consists of forums, photo uploads and a blog. The concept of facebook like applications hasnt even occured to them yet, it seems. I think Japan ha

    Anyway, my NTT fibre-optic line is 6000 yen a month and worth every penny of it. Advice to anyone coming to Japan - do not be fooled into getting YahooBB - their service is even more unrealiable than the connections in the states and UK, far slower than stated speeds, and will give you a thoroughly biassed view of the internet in Japan being sucky...

    Thu 2009/02/05 03:37:55 JST (ID #475313)
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  • Frugalista Japan
    Frugalista Japan in Kyoto, Japan (Registered on 2009/01/15)
    English Teacher (university)
    http://frugalistajapan.gaijinstuff.com/

    Winny is a poor excuse for filesharing and will die out the way of Napster - Japan needs to learn that torrents are a far more reliable and untraceable way to download (whatever your download may be). It's quite paradoxical how the actual internet backbone of Japan is lightyears ahead of the rest of the world, yet the software and websites they run on it is ten years in the past at best. Japanese always seem to be rather slow on the uptake for web technologies, which is damn shame because of all the amazing hardware that exists here.

    Let me give you another example to demonstrate this~ Mixi. Mixi is the biggest social community site in Japan, but it basically consists of forums, photo uploads and a blog. The concept of facebook like applications hasnt even occured to them yet, it seems. I think Japan has some wonderfully creative ideas in many areas, but internet applications is not one of them.

    Anyway, my NTT fibre-optic line is 6000 yen a month and worth every penny of it. Advice to anyone coming to Japan - do not be fooled into getting YahooBB - their service is even more unrealiable than the connections in the states and UK, far slower than stated speeds, and will give you a thoroughly biassed view of the internet in Japan being sucky...

    Thu 2009/02/05 03:38:52 JST (ID #475314)
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  • cswalker
    cswalker in South Florida, USA (Registered on 2009/03/13)
    IT Professional

    My local ISP provides very shoddy service for a large fee. This is, because there is no competition in the region. However, there is a loop hole to receive the service for free. I still pay for the lowest setting (they are still a company offering a service), but use the configuration for the highest setting. I do this, because (a) I don't believe the service is worth the fee; and (b) I really cannot stand how American companies milk all technologies until they are DEAD, and then offer a dated service as "NEW" for a hiked up fee.

    Fri 2009/03/13 03:52:35 JST (ID #519771)
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  • lolyukiuk
    lolyukiuk in UK (Registered on 2009/02/08)
    failing student
    http://ukyuki.blogspot.com/

    every one has flie shared!

    Mon 2009/03/23 21:35:09 JST (ID #531742)
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  • SpencerSetters
    SpencerSetters in Baltimore, Maryland, USA (Registered on 2009/06/01)
    Full Time Student, Musician
    http://www.spencersetters.com

    Here in Maryland there are service providers who cap their customers, but I have signed up for a provider that provides unlimited bandwidth. For years I have been P2Ping and torrenting and have finally been told to stop by my ISP. They turned off my internet for two days and gave me one strike on a 3 strike system before I would have to find another ISP. Nothing happened, which is good considering how many Tera Bytes I have uploaded and downloaded. haha

    Mon 2009/06/01 17:37:32 JST (ID #629480)
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