20090125 Giveaway - Where is Haruhi

Thu 2009/01/29 02:13 JST

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Congrats to all those who answered "Singapore" in round 2 of this giveaway.
Clues where:-
"Uta" = Song or Sing
"Sosogu" =Poor
Sing+Poor= Singapore

"Boku no Kagami" = My Kagami = specifically Danny's Kagami = must be where Danny has been before = trip to Singapore last November to give two talks.

Many of you gave an answer for the actual beach but I didn't give enough clues to locate the exact beach and only expected "Singapore" as the answer. Although if I was looking for the exact beach as the answer then Gordon would have won with "East Coast Park/Beach, Singapore" as his answer.

So congrats to all those who answered "Singapore" - you go to the third round (quite a few of you) to battle it out. Next question is "Where is Haruhi."
Clues:-
"Amazon De Wa Doko?"

Now for the
Rules:-
- Please be as specific as possible
- You *must* include the link to your previous correct answer by using the comment ID anchor like...

http://www.dannychoo.com/detail/mac/eng/image/13651/20090125+Giveaway+-+Where+is+Kagami+2.html#comment464603

- Only gladiators who answered correctly from the previous round get to battle in the second round.
- Deadline is this time tomorrow-ish.
- You got one attempt.
- Arms installation is complete. Good Luck! Nao-chan is waiting for you - just look at her eyes!

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Kevin Nguyen in Florida, USA (Registered on 2008/09/18)
Student
http://lordofgundams.blogspot.com/

Ah, I totally messed up the second round. Oh well, I tried my best, I didn't think that the hints would point me to the country of Singapore. I really did like the figure. Good luck to the ones going to round 3.

Thu 2009/01/29 02:28:55 JST (ID #466409)

reply to Kevin Nguyen's comment
- Oni-kun in Land of Zero Opportunities (by the Equator) (Registered on 2007/11/10)
  Unemployed bummer
  
  same here Kev. i worked with your explanation and i found pictures that really looked like the Sagami Bay area was the correct beach's location.
  
  sneaky of Danny to ask for "as specific as possible" when the answers/hints can't give us that.
  
  i kinda figured out i was wrong after seeing some Singapore answers as it didn't quite cross my mind that he'd gone to a beach while he was here. guess the clue was staring us in the face but we couldn't quite see it...
  
  Thu 2009/01/29 05:18:15 JST (ID #466520)
  
  reply to Oni-kun's comment
  - Kevin Nguyen in Florida, USA (Registered on 2008/09/18)
    Student
    http://lordofgundams.blogspot.com/
    
    Yup, I agree with you. What blindsided me was the fact that it was outside of Japan. I just made a deduction that it was near the location of the first question. I did felt concerned when I saw a massive amount of Singapore answers.
    
    Fri 2009/01/30 06:14:46 JST (ID #467936)
    
    reply to Kevin Nguyen's comment
    - King Kir4 in Blacksburg, SC (Registered on 2008/10/09)
      student, doujinshi manga artist
      
      Whens the next contest? I wanna be in it! Wonder what i'll win...
      
      Fri 2009/01/30 22:09:09 JST (ID #468760)
      
      reply to King Kir4's comment
Nathan in Atlanta, GA, USA (Registered on 2007/08/22)
student

Good luck to those that made it to this round... Nao-chan sure is yummie ^^ I know where this is but no way I'm giving it away lol

Thu 2009/01/29 02:31:30 JST (ID #466411)

reply to Nathan's comment
tenrou in Honolulu, HI (Registered on 2008/04/16)
流浪人

I think chun's clue was the best... ^^;;;

Thu 2009/01/29 02:39:19 JST (ID #466413)

reply to tenrou's comment
- litokid in Toronto, Canada (Registered on 2007/11/25)
  university film student | ecchikid | the Archivist
  http://www.vimeo.com/longhim
  
  Heh. *headdesk* I originally though Singapore, too, but I thought "Singapore" on its own wouldn't have been specific enough. Darnit.
  
  Thu 2009/01/29 02:46:19 JST (ID #466419)
  
  reply to litokid's comment
- タケル～ン in 雛見沢 (Registered on 2008/04/01)
  デレデレハンター, Bullet Grazer
  
  It was definitely helpful for me ^o^
  After I saw it, I immediately went to her blogs.
  
  Thu 2009/01/29 06:05:06 JST (ID #466565)
  
  reply to タケル～ン's comment
Cyberchaos in Australia, Sydney (Registered on 2008/02/17)
NEET part-time - Technical Support Officer - Network security engineer
http://burugureibi.blogspot.com/

I've seen this image somewhere before
*begins searching through archives*

Thu 2009/01/29 02:43:32 JST (ID #466417)

reply to Cyberchaos's comment
- Cyberchaos in Australia, Sydney (Registered on 2008/02/17)
  NEET part-time - Technical Support Officer - Network security engineer
  http://burugureibi.blogspot.com/
  
  after using up my bandwidth, i found the article
  oh, looks like others found it b4 me
  
  Hohenschwangau. Germany
  http://www.dannychoo.com/detail/mac/eng/image/13651/20090125+Giveaway+-+Where+is+Kagami+2.html#comment464447
  
  Thu 2009/01/29 08:05:57 JST (ID #466687)
  
  reply to Cyberchaos's comment
lolipedofin in Singapore -back at my stinky dump- (Registered on 2008/06/14)
Mahasiswa yang terdampar di Singapura.
http://lolipedofin.wordpress.com/

lololol... I'm actually living at Singapore... yet, didn't even slightly noticed it... Too bad... but well, you can't lose what you never had... bye2 Nao-chan... T.T

Thu 2009/01/29 02:47:19 JST (ID #466420)

reply to lolipedofin's comment
Meimi132 in Stuck in the void between the net life and real life. (Registered on 2007/12/03)
Student, Otaku, She-Geek(Sheek lol)
http://meimi132.wordpress.com/

lol, ya'll have fun with this. I knew I wouldn't be right lol. But I had no clue... I did translate the Uta and Sosogu.... but never put two and two together lol.

Goodluck everyone!

Thu 2009/01/29 02:50:46 JST (ID #466424)

reply to Meimi132's comment
Macrossfan2 in m (Registered on 2008/08/13)
m

Dang...I thought the pics were limited to Japan. DOH.

Thu 2009/01/29 02:59:07 JST (ID #466431)

reply to Macrossfan2's comment
MAsia in NERV HQ, Tokyo-3 (Registered on 2007/01/14)
Supreme Commander of NERV Co.

Good luck to everyone in round 2 ^o^

Thu 2009/01/29 03:01:27 JST (ID #466436)

reply to MAsia's comment
Mimi in MIT (Registered on 2008/03/11)
Student
http://anime.scripts.mit.edu/miteiru/

No way... there's no way it's that easy... will spill out my answer later on tomorrow cuz I'm neurotic like usual.

Thu 2009/01/29 03:08:36 JST (ID #466441)

reply to Mimi's comment
- Cyberchaos in Australia, Sydney (Registered on 2008/02/17)
  NEET part-time - Technical Support Officer - Network security engineer
  http://burugureibi.blogspot.com/
  
  that's exactly what i'm thinking
  Danny wouldn't give us such an easy clue - I also doubt that he's ever been to South America...
  
  amazon could be some sort of reference to amazon.com
  
  Thu 2009/01/29 03:16:21 JST (ID #466450)
  
  reply to Cyberchaos's comment
  - Mimi in MIT (Registered on 2008/03/11)
    Student
    http://anime.scripts.mit.edu/miteiru/
    
    Hohenschwangau by the lake, Germany. Or maybe Haruhi's on the lake? >.~
    
    You can tell by the vegetation and (un-rocky) mountains that it's clearly not Japan.
    
    http://www.dannychoo.com/detail/mac/eng/image/13651/20090125+Giveaway+-+Where+is+Kagami+2.html#comment464595
    
    Thu 2009/01/29 07:26:12 JST (ID #466657)
    
    reply to Mimi's comment
darktek13 in Utah, USA (Registered on 2008/02/03)
Looking for work again
http://flickr.com/photos/darktek13/

Finally one I know :) Too bad I had no clue on the first 2 ^_^.

Good luck gladiators!

Thu 2009/01/29 03:27:01 JST (ID #466456)

reply to darktek13's comment
MARl0 in United States (Registered on 2007/11/16)
Graphic Designer

Wow, I would've never gotten that one correct. º_º

Thu 2009/01/29 03:33:43 JST (ID #466464)

reply to MARl0's comment
marvin (Registered on 2006/12/24)
http://www.marvinryan.com

Ak this is harder, I know you took Haruhi with you in Berlin, Hamburg and L.A. around May of 2008. but Amazon is in Seattle... gonna shoot myself on the foot and say it's in Seattle. probably green lake. Anyone care to guess Belin, Hamburg or LA? ^^

My guess would be:
Seattle WA
http://www.dannychoo.com/detail/mac/eng/image/13651/20090125+Giveaway+-+Where+is+Kagami+2.html#comment463827

Thu 2009/01/29 04:25:16 JST (ID #466489)

reply to marvin's comment
- marvin (Registered on 2006/12/24)
  http://www.marvinryan.com
  
  darn it, just read my comment, I sound like a stalker. ^^;
  
  Thu 2009/01/29 04:28:32 JST (ID #466494)
  
  reply to marvin's comment
- marvin (Registered on 2006/12/24)
  http://www.marvinryan.com
  
  oh wait, that image seem familiar... this was back when Haruhi was a guest writer! I Fail! :( boku wa baka!
  
  Thu 2009/01/29 06:20:48 JST (ID #466579)
  
  reply to marvin's comment
ornehx in ペナン、マレシ－ア (Registered on 2007/12/25)
dannychoo.com の読者

Hohenschwangau Lake, Germany

http://www.dannychoo.com/detail/mac/eng/image/13651/20090125+Giveaway+-+Where+is+Kagami+2.html#comment465157

tricky clue you have there danny, why is it not in hiragana - there is a reason?
but i am sure i got this one correct.

Thu 2009/01/29 04:59:21 JST (ID #466509)

reply to ornehx's comment
- Oni-kun in Land of Zero Opportunities (by the Equator) (Registered on 2007/11/10)
  Unemployed bummer
  
  i'm pretty sure for you too. the idea isn't to read the clue as it is.
  
  there's a way of reading it to get to part of the answer you got above. too bad i don't qualify.
  
  Thu 2009/01/29 06:50:46 JST (ID #466617)
  
  reply to Oni-kun's comment
silent1134 in Los Angeles, California (Registered on 2007/08/22)
???Confused???

I've been here for over a year, and I didn't get any of this...oh the shame...

Thu 2009/01/29 05:27:32 JST (ID #466524)

reply to silent1134's comment
タケル～ン in 雛見沢 (Registered on 2008/04/01)
デレデレハンター, Bullet Grazer

I think Haruhi’s riding on a Nice Boat at Hohenschwangau Lake in Germany. ^^

Here’s my link from last time:
http://www.dannychoo.com/detail/mac/eng/image/13651/20090125+Giveaway+-+Where+is+Kagami+2.html#comment463921

Thu 2009/01/29 05:30:14 JST (ID #466526)

reply to タケル～ン's comment
Lelouch Lamperouge in ClovisLand (Registered on 2008/08/21)
former Emperor of Britannia
http://reflectiarx.wordpress.com/

i lost XD Good luck to the others XD

Thu 2009/01/29 05:42:52 JST (ID #466539)

reply to Lelouch Lamperouge's comment
twu in country of igloos and lumberjacks... (Registered on 2008/09/08)
Professional Panhandler
http://theinfernoproject.com

Haruhi's in Germany
Near the town of Füssen if me needs be specific. No idea what the clues meant this time =__="

previous post: http://www.dannychoo.com/detail/mac/eng/image/13651/20090125+Giveaway+-+Where+is+Kagami+2.html#comment464531

Thu 2009/01/29 05:44:44 JST (ID #466541)

reply to twu's comment
- twu in country of igloos and lumberjacks... (Registered on 2008/09/08)
  Professional Panhandler
  http://theinfernoproject.com
  
  looks like it's at the village of Hohenschwangau, near Füssen. But I guess it matters not.
  
  Thu 2009/01/29 05:49:40 JST (ID #466545)
  
  reply to twu's comment
Gibson in California (Registered on 2007/05/27)
Student artist
http://www.requestview.wordpress.com

Does Sentosa beach count cause it located in singapore?

Thu 2009/01/29 05:56:21 JST (ID #466553)

reply to Gibson's comment
FatBastard in over his head (Registered on 2007/11/04)
Dirty Gentleman
http://cantstanzya.wordpress.com/

Hohenschwangau Lake, Germany.

http://www.dannychoo.com/detail/mac/eng/image/13651/20090125+Giveaway+-+Where+is+Kagami+2.html#comment464398

Thu 2009/01/29 06:22:32 JST (ID #466581)

reply to FatBastard's comment
MeltyBlood in Classified Information (Registered on 2008/07/26)
Com. Sci. Student

waaaaaaa so babel fish translation was right about poor and sing x_X

Thu 2009/01/29 06:48:29 JST (ID #466612)

reply to MeltyBlood's comment
- Oni-kun in Land of Zero Opportunities (by the Equator) (Registered on 2007/11/10)
  Unemployed bummer
  
  LOL!
  
  Thu 2009/01/29 06:54:35 JST (ID #466620)
  
  reply to Oni-kun's comment
Oni-kun in Land of Zero Opportunities (by the Equator) (Registered on 2007/11/10)
Unemployed bummer

Danny, this one's amazingly easy to answer once you figure out the clue.

was wondering, did the previous round's (Singapore) picture also come from one of the articles/news you posted?

Thu 2009/01/29 07:00:35 JST (ID #466628)

reply to Oni-kun's comment
- marvin (Registered on 2006/12/24)
  http://www.marvinryan.com
  
  http://www.dannychoo.com/basedir/mac/eng/puchi/category/everything/Danny/2008/11/3.html
  scroll down to 2008/11/18 17:05
  ^^;
  
  Thu 2009/01/29 07:09:14 JST (ID #466638)
  
  reply to marvin's comment
  - Oni-kun in Land of Zero Opportunities (by the Equator) (Registered on 2007/11/10)
    Unemployed bummer
    
    marvin-san, you're amazing! how'd you find that?!
    
    Thu 2009/01/29 09:28:34 JST (ID #466758)
    
    reply to Oni-kun's comment
    - marvin (Registered on 2006/12/24)
      http://www.marvinryan.com
      
      I actually saw that when Danny first posted it.
      
      Thu 2009/01/29 10:25:47 JST (ID #466791)
      
      reply to marvin's comment
      - Oni-kun in Land of Zero Opportunities (by the Equator) (Registered on 2007/11/10)
        Unemployed bummer
        
        pays to be a stalker... >_<
        
        j/k =P
        
        Thu 2009/01/29 12:38:09 JST (ID #466880)
        
        reply to Oni-kun's comment
NGEunit01 in Cali (Registered on 2007/05/14)
College Student
http://www.figure.fm/home/NGEunit01

Hohenschwangau Lake, Germany
http://www.dannychoo.com/detail/mac/eng/image/13651/20090125+Giveaway+-+Where+is+Kagami+2.html#comment464147

Thu 2009/01/29 07:15:18 JST (ID #466645)

reply to NGEunit01's comment
wickedclown in California (Registered on 2007/12/07)
Programmer/IT/Student
http://wickedotaku.blogspot.com/

Well, I knew it was Germany right when I saw it, but did not know where specifically, so, once again, I will agree with everyone else on this one. ^^

My answer is: Hohenschwangau Lake, Germany.

http://www.dannychoo.com/detail/mac/eng/image/13651/20090125+Giveaway+-+Where+is+Kagami+2.html#comment464910

Thu 2009/01/29 08:16:20 JST (ID #466700)

reply to wickedclown's comment
quicoto in Spain (Registered on 2007/12/10)
Blogger
http://quicoto.com

Lucky haruhi, i don't know where she is but i want to be there :P

Thu 2009/01/29 09:52:10 JST (ID #466774)

reply to quicoto's comment
punynari in Yokosuka, Japan (Registered on 2008/09/20)
US Navy Sailor
http://punynari.wordpress.com/

Such a beautiful location. Wouldn't mind visiting Germany sometime though I don't know if I'd want to be stationed there. Europe in general actually I would mind seeing, especially France and Italy.

My answer: Hohenschwangau Lake, Germany (must be hard to say aloud lol)

http://www.dannychoo.com/detail/mac/eng/image/13651/20090125+Giveaway+-+Where+is+Kagami+2.html#comment464420

Thu 2009/01/29 10:48:51 JST (ID #466813)

reply to punynari's comment
ziroc in West Monroe, LA (Registered on 2008/04/13)
http://ziroc.blogspot.com/

As specific as possible.

She's in Hohenschwangau village in the municipality of Schwangau, Ostallgäu district, Bavaria, Germany in a boat on Lake Alpsee

http://www.dannychoo.com/detail/mac/eng/image/13651/20090125+Giveaway+-+Where+is+Kagami+2.html#comment464436

Thu 2009/01/29 11:21:56 JST (ID #466841)

reply to ziroc's comment
lerry[maru] in Kuala Lumpur, MY (Registered on 2008/09/14)
Nekophilia

Oh wow. I'm quite amazed at some of your answers o.o I haven't even heard of em before. How did you guys... But I'm quite sure Danny went to Germany before. Mentioned that dccom got blocked or something xD

Thu 2009/01/29 11:30:48 JST (ID #466849)

reply to lerry[maru]'s comment
- twu in country of igloos and lumberjacks... (Registered on 2008/09/08)
  Professional Panhandler
  http://theinfernoproject.com
  
  He wrote that he went to Fussen, visit a castle, and rowed on the lake. That's why I said Fussen ^^; But I have no idea why Amazon is in the clues. If it's Barvaria, or Barvarian I get, but don't know bout Amazon...
  
  Thu 2009/01/29 11:44:37 JST (ID #466852)
  
  reply to twu's comment
  - twu in country of igloos and lumberjacks... (Registered on 2008/09/08)
    Professional Panhandler
    http://theinfernoproject.com
    
    Finnally get why it says Amazon (the Company) ^^
    
    Thu 2009/01/29 16:27:51 JST (ID #467048)
    
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Evil King in Vlaardingen, the Netherlands, Earth (Registered on 2007/12/18)
Student and full-time otaku

Well, this one's easy for a change:

Germany, Hohenschwangau is where she's at.

Previous links:
Q1:
http://www.dannychoo.com/detail/mac/eng/image/13601/.html#comment461895

Q2:
http://www.dannychoo.com/detail/mac/eng/image/13651/.html#comment464408

Thu 2009/01/29 12:26:55 JST (ID #466875)

reply to Evil King's comment
kona.kona in Singapore (Registered on 2008/10/15)
Student
http://konadora.wordpress.com

I can't believe I didn't realise it was Singapore... when I've been living here for over a decade D:

But it's not like I passed first round anyway ;____;

Thu 2009/01/29 13:03:32 JST (ID #466898)

reply to kona.kona's comment
Pyoro in Singapore (Registered on 2007/08/22)
Student
http://anime.tedfox.com/

blah you can be forgiven for missing that
changi beach,sentosa punggol, the works, they all look practically the same

Thu 2009/01/29 13:45:18 JST (ID #466917)

reply to Pyoro's comment
dans in Chiba, Japan (Registered on 2007/08/05)
IT Manager
http://thumbnail-of-life.blogspot.com/

Hohenschwangau Lake, Germany.

http://www.dannychoo.com/detail/mac/eng/image/13651/20090125+Giveaway+-+Where+is+Kagami+2.html#comment464444

Thu 2009/01/29 13:48:00 JST (ID #466921)

reply to dans's comment
DarkFader in Netherlands (Registered on 2007/10/31)
hw sw engineer
http://darkfader.blogspot.com/

Hohenschwangau Lake, Germany
But I wouldn't be too sure if I weren't myself.

http://www.dannychoo.com/detail/mac/eng/image/13651/20090125+Giveaway+-+Where+is+Kagami+2.html#comment464533

Thu 2009/01/29 15:16:47 JST (ID #467010)

reply to DarkFader's comment
DarkFader in Netherlands (Registered on 2007/10/31)
hw sw engineer
http://darkfader.blogspot.com/

Hohenschwangau Lake, Germany
But I wouldn't be too sure if I weren't myself.

http://www.dannychoo.com/detail/mac/eng/image/13651/20090125+Giveaway+-+Where+is+Kagami+2.html#comment464533

Thu 2009/01/29 15:18:07 JST (ID #467011)

reply to DarkFader's comment
Raptor in パース市、西オーストラリア (Perth, Western Australia) (Registered on 2008/03/09)
ソフトウエアエンジニア (Software Engineer)
http://timkoh.info

Hohenschwangau Lake, Germany

http://www.dannychoo.com/detail/mac/eng/image/13651/20090125+Giveaway+-+Where+is+Kagami+2.html#comment464842

Thu 2009/01/29 16:43:34 JST (ID #467085)

reply to Raptor's comment
gordon in 新加坡 Singapore (Registered on 2007/06/11)
銀河帝国五〇一軍团 TK/TD 8316 M.E.P.D. Police Sergeant
http://gordonator.com/

This is the Alpsee lake. Very close to the Schloss Hohenschwangau castles.

Hohenschwangau is a village in Schwangau, Ostallgäu district, Bavaria, Germany.

http://www.dannychoo.com/detail/mac/eng/image/13651/20090125+Giveaway+-+Where+is+Kagami+2.html#comment464603

Thu 2009/01/29 19:12:26 JST (ID #467261)

reply to gordon's comment
- EMîkro in Germany (Registered on 2008/09/16)
  Student | J-Drama beau
  http://www.emikro.de.vu
  
  Hey, the first one which is very detailed ^^
  
  Thu 2009/01/29 20:51:35 JST (ID #467400)
  
  reply to EMîkro's comment
The Sojourner in Singapore (Registered on 2008/05/03)
Carbon dioxide producer
http://www.bluefoxalley.wordpress.com

I only know that the Haruhi in the picture is in Hohenschwangau, Germany.

Thu 2009/01/29 19:27:10 JST (ID #467286)

reply to The Sojourner's comment
- The Sojourner in Singapore (Registered on 2008/05/03)
  Carbon dioxide producer
  http://www.bluefoxalley.wordpress.com
  
  Also, rofl at the previous question. I thought sosogu was to pour a liquid; never knew it meant poor. Oh wait. Sing + Pour. Singapore. *facepalm*
  
  Thu 2009/01/29 19:30:13 JST (ID #467289)
  
  reply to The Sojourner's comment
Harts in Estonia (Registered on 2008/06/02)
Student

Second round fail:( But still a better result than in the last giveaway:)
Good luck to all the contestants!

Thu 2009/01/29 19:52:13 JST (ID #467329)

reply to Harts's comment
Hidden Oasis in California, United Sates (Registered on 2008/10/28)
College Freshmen

I guessed Siloso beach last time because they have the song of the sea show there. Well it's still in Singapore though.

Alpsee lake near Hohenschwangau. I don't think it's called Hohenschwangau lake.

http://www.dannychoo.com/detail/mac/eng/image/13651/20090125+Giveaway+-+Where+is+Kagami+2.html#comment464153

Thu 2009/01/29 22:35:57 JST (ID #467467)

reply to Hidden Oasis's comment
phossil in Guatemala City (Registered on 2008/07/22)
http://twitter.com/phossil
http://www.animoe.net

I think it is the Alpsee, a lake in the Ostallgäu district of Bavaria, Germany. The Neuschwanstein and Schloss Hohenschwangau castles are close. http://www.dannychoo.com/detail/mac/eng/image/13651/20090125+Giveaway+-+Where+is+Kagami+2.html#comment465030

Fri 2009/01/30 00:37:34 JST (ID #467562)

reply to phossil's comment
Kamikasi (Registered on 2007/09/01)
Student
http://twelvezerofive.wordpress.com/

Hohenschwangau Lake, Germany

http://www.dannychoo.com/detail/mac/eng/image/13651/20090125+Giveaway+-+Where+is+Kagami+2.html#comment464162

Fri 2009/01/30 06:02:23 JST (ID #467919)

reply to Kamikasi's comment
Gibson in California (Registered on 2007/05/27)
Student artist
http://www.requestview.wordpress.com

http://www.dannychoo.com/detail/mac/eng/image/13601/20090125+Giveaway+-+Where+is+Kagami.html#comment462151

Not sure if Im eligable for this round

Hohenschwangau Lake, Germany

Fri 2009/01/30 06:13:32 JST (ID #467933)

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WiseFreeman in DC Cloning Laboratory (Registered on 2007/11/07)
Dance Trooper: DCX-001 O.D.E. (Order of the Dancing Empire)
http://dannychoo.com.my

All the best to all gladiators ^_^

This photo look very familiar, it had been used in Danny's previous article ^^;

Fri 2009/01/30 14:36:48 JST (ID #468433)

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