Japanese men prefer Tenga

Came across an article on how young Japanese men cant be bothered to fall in lurve with a 3D woman...
-System Engineer (23): Having a relationship requires time, money and is stressful - which is why I think that its better just to do other stuff.
-Salesman (24): Its not that I don't want to go out with a woman - I just cant be bothered to ask them.
-Salesman (23): I've been out with 3 women over the past 4 years - I think I've had enough for now and wont be interested for a while.
Among the comments in that article are...
"The bother (for a woman) is only worth it if its for an eroge.
-If you know how to use a Tenga then that should be enough.
-I'd rather spend my money on my hobbies.
-I'd rather go fishing, play games or spend time on the internet.
What do you make of all this?
Photo of Dollfie Saber for folks who prefer dolls over 3D and 2D. Still need to get a brush for her hair.
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*confidential*
first to answer the poll: Woo Hoo!!!!
even though I dun have time neither money, I'm just a ronery otaku looking for a romance XD.
damn that sounded sooo desperate
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Me too, although I'm being lazy and lack the gumption to go outside (it's cold out there).
The first thing that came to my mind when I read this post was, "Hello, real-life harem!!"
With all the Japanese men going after 2D women, that leaves a whole bevy of ronery in-the-flesh womanz to be pleasing.
Mwhahahaha!!
Kokoro Kotonoha's personal trainer
http://loli1983.wordpress.com
No comment.
My response to this is really intense and i'd rather keep this to myself. At least out of this site even though i'm sure there are some people out there in the same shoes as me, but still, this is a very sensetive topic for me.
University Student
I guess it depends on where you are in life, I'm actually doing better in my classes (compared to the last 2 semesters) because I'm not out trying to chase girls and hang out...as much xD
Student
http://anime.scripts.mit.edu/miteiru/
No wonder Japan's population is decreasing...
It angers me how so many men see women as nothing more than dolphin-waxing tools and kitchen slaves rather than a partner and companion for life. That first comment in the 2nd quote really hurts me on a personal level because so many women have worked their whole lives in practical fields and are less successful than those who make dolphin waxing materials for men.
It's sad that so many men see themselves as the center of the universe with women being their source of pleasure rather than a source of intelligence and trust. It's true that having a relationship requires time, but a relationship is something that is priceless and our capability to form these types of bonds is what makes us human.
Kokoro Kotonoha's personal trainer
http://loli1983.wordpress.com
For the record, this does not describe me at all but i wanna prove your point and by the way this doesn't only happen in Japan. I actually work with a guy who has had about 3 girlfriends in the last 2 years. What he tells me is very disturbing because he clearly implies he wants to have fun before he's ready for a real relationship. But he's 22 years of age and i think that's a little too old for these middle school games. He might make fun of me for my misfortunes especially during my process of finding someone but at least i don't break womens hearts repeatedly.
Future Idol
http://puddingparadise.blogspot.com
I am so agree with Mimi ~.~
former Emperor of Britannia
http://reflectiarx.wordpress.com/
Well certain men really do not know how to treat a lady/women in a right way. Sad to say some of them are otaku that have such a mindset.
And yes i second the matter on building relationships. For me it's something that makes up who
you are.
http://darkdam.deviantart.com/
That doesn't apply to all men, it's really more for the cocky rich men or those who have the women in their family oppressed.
Self Employee NEET
http://www.nekoroid.com
Agree, I do respect woman. But what Mimi said also apply to woman. I mean, as a man, have you ever stared by woman like you are piece of crap because of your hobby? I do get this oftenly from the girl I like or just regular classmate.
If considering by judging man only using woman as dolphin waxing tool. But what about woman who use man as social status? I mean, I have seen alot of woman marrying man not because of love, but because that woman is running out of time.
I can't deny about fact man using woman as dolphin waxing tool, but not all man like that (even eventualy dolphin waxing activity will happen XD). But we must accept, while man doing worst thing to woman, at the same time, woman also doing worst thing to man.
Student
http://anime.scripts.mit.edu/miteiru/
Of course there are exceptions, but look at Youtube for example. Most of the women with the most subscriptions use "dolphin-waxing" appeal to gain fame. Most of the men use things like talent and passion for a hobby to gain support.
Once again, there's exceptions, but there is a trend going on here.
Self Employee NEET
http://www.nekoroid.com
It's inevitable... sorry bout that. Man are beast, woman are goddess.... XD
大がくせい
Well, this might be a long post. The fact that I'm not too much interested in dating a woman personally hasn't much to do about been time consuming and possibly, if the right girl eventually show up, I might change my mind. But my parent been a rare exception, the more I look at people near me and the more it just seem to destroy them more then do good to them in the long run.
My brother did a suicide attempt over his cheating ex girl friend. One of my uncle broke up with his wife both by the end were cheating on each other and simply hurting each other.
Another of my uncle is stuck paying money to 2 woman because he had child with them, but that not the worst, the last he got his a psycho, she try to black mail him, she threatened the new girl friend he got after her and many other thing I'm not totally aware of. When he tried to get an injunction against her, the lawyer wouldn't believe what he said she was doing until he had some proof on tape.
One of my other uncle, is emotionally addicted to one of his ex, she drain him emotionally, monetary and physically while not doing anything for him.
And finally, there's my sister that so addicted to her bf that she stayed with them even if by the end they would make her cry more often then anything.
So, you see, when I see all these kind of thing happening around you, you might start believing that relationship might be overrated and you might be better without it.
Mad scientist
I don't think relationships are overrated. However the problem is that you should pick your partner carefully. Looks to me like your family aren't the best one at picking partners. It should tell you (and everybody else for that matter) that it's important to be careful and get to know each other before you throw yourself into each other's arms.
Otaku / Student in Networking
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Yup agree
Just Some Anime Fan
http://www.cilliaclaraford.com
well i don't concur because 2d girl deserve love more!
pervert
being with a woman costs more money that a hobby
pervert
especially a lot of women i seen in the states
Student
http://anime.scripts.mit.edu/miteiru/
Being a man costs more than a woman. :/
Kokoro Kotonoha's personal trainer
http://loli1983.wordpress.com
Wordlife. And it takes a real man to support himself and his wife if he has one.
Student, part-time Haruhi wannabe (that bit about godhood etc)
http://www.aprilius20.com
Right. Exactly when it comes to clothes=.=;
Your local Otaku Cashier.
There should be a study on who costs more; a man or woman.
http://twitter.com/phossil
http://www.animoe.net
such study costs money too, so i think they prefer to spend it on women..
Kokoro Kotonoha's personal trainer
http://loli1983.wordpress.com
No offense to you but some of us such as myself are actually looking for a woman to replace my hobby. Anime culture is a big part of my life but sometimes we have to wake up and smell the coffee.
You sound young and you claim to be an 'Extremely Poor College Student' but in a few years you will see things differently. A lot differently.
Your local Otaku Cashier.
I think it's a joke on the lines of "Anime costs more than drugs" sort of thing.
former Emperor of Britannia
http://reflectiarx.wordpress.com/
Regardless of costs or expenses, being with a woman is like going out on dates and other stuff is much better. Money is of no value if you enjoyed your time with her and so does she.
Kokoro Kotonoha's personal trainer
http://loli1983.wordpress.com
Right on again. I used to love the feeling when you know you enjoyed your time with her regardless of how much you spent.
NEET
who doesn't??? d(^_^)b
I paint F/A-18C's
'...regardless of how much you spent.' makes it sound like people are cheap, not poor. Major difference there.
pervert
i dont mind paying for the date but i just hate it when she makes you buy her bags and shoes and all the other crap she already has at home
Kokoro Kotonoha's personal trainer
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Is she your girlfriend? This is what a few have been saying so far; You should sit down and talk to her and let her know that it bothers you, if it does indeed bother you that you have to buy what she already has. Don't lack communication and let the relationship fall apart because both of you refuse to let what each other has in mind.
In this situation i would have done my homework before i would have gotten involved with this person. I do not like materialistic women who have to have the need to own luxurious things in their life. These type of things do not follow you when you die. Especially if you can't afford to live that way and you know very well it would not work out in the future.
I didn't wanna get into this at all but that's what happened to me. I got involved with my ex-girlfriend who was immature and wanted everything she knows she could not have; a car, nice clothing, a big screen TV and so forth. She has a daughter from some guy she broke up with and couldn't even feed her daughter. I was willing to father a child that wasn't even mine.
I learned a hard lesson here though. Since then I decided to look for someone who has had the same hardships as I have, someone who understands me like i would understand them.
Moe Hunter
http://moehunter.wordpress.com/
I know where they are coming from, most women are so fickle, and evil. It's hard to find someone male/female on your own wavelength WORTH spending time and money on, even as friends.
Sometimes women can hurt you so much, that it just gets to the point where you feel like giving up. I could comment a few things on what you said there Mimi, but it is kind of sensative, and I know you mean good. First of all, just try and think from the mans perspective, they didn't ASK to be born men, and such as are NOT women hormonally/physically/phsycologically. You may be on the oppressed side of the end of the pool in some contexts and history, but may not have much of an idea what it's like actually being on the other side of the fence.
I will say this though, one wrong move/word to a woman can mean them not even giving you the time of day to even form a relationship.
Apprentice Baking & Pastry Chef
http://Ima-Monogatari.com/
tenga de nani?
haha...
NEET
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dj_67WFJRM0
Undisputed ➈
It is a matter of where the world stands today and how people are taking the atmosphere of the current world they live in. I think it is mostly done by media and other hidden factors that sort of accelerated the population into this....insensitive nature. Now everything is seemingly blown out of proportion where people constantly question whether to even have feelings for the opposite gender anymore.
I think personally i stand between this thin wire. Where one end i wish i could be as faithful as i could be as a soon-to-be half of a relationship, but the other i sort of question whether or not i should believe the other half's contribution to the whole ordeal. It is not a matter of who's right or who's wrong in the situation, but more of whether or not two people are willing to establish something that will possibly last a lifetime.
And as for the current state, that sort of motivation is seemingly getting weaker ^^"
I have to agree on the media part in contributing to the views a lot of people seem to have concerning relationships or genders. The media portrayal of what a family, relationship, appearance, etc is versus reality is rather off eh. Cheap shows/movies/magazines that cater to teens with trendy fashion, and souless commercial music, worthless info about celebs, and other mindless trash don't help matters much. The atmosphere we live in today is so saturated with all this that it is hard to expect children to grow up any other way. And that is the confrontation of capitalism and corporations with social values ya know. They manipulate our views and opinions so much.
Not to mention the pressure to succeed, conform, and compete. I really understand the positions these people are taking. It is unfortunate that they feel this way though.
Student, Bioresearch Assistant, WAVE VP Communications
http://gndynames.wordpress.com
I do suppose asking is the main problem. I remember when I tried to ask, I already knew I was going to fail and whatever came out was so blunt that it was hilarious for those who hear about it, and that was before I met Saber.
I'm not exactly trying since I'd rather be spending time on school things. Ironically the type of person I'd prefer is also one who also has a high academic standard. So currently...I haven't the slightest clue and I'm waiting for an opening of some sort.
Well...at the moment I could divert enough funds for a girlfriend if she is the otaku type. If not...chances are I won't last long. That is, if I find someone.
researcher, historian, gunslinger
I'm probably going to get a lot of people ticked off at me for saying this, but I can understand these guys argument. I've been involved in several relationships over the years, every one of which hasn't worked out for various reasons mostly because (at least as far as I've been able to figure out) _I_ wasn't what _they_ wanted in a relationship.
And just what is it that women want? A guy that's handsome AND intelligent. A guy that has a good job and makes a lot of money, but has the time to be there for them. A guy that's manly, but sensitive to their needs. A guy that carves his own path in life, but is only too willing to give everything up so the girl can be happy. Guys like that come from exactly one place, and the place is fantasy-land.
When it comes right down to it, the 'relationship game' has three rules:
1) The woman knows all the rules.
2) The woman can change the rules at any time, and
3) The woman does not have to tell the man about any of the rules until after he has broken them, and then it's all HIS fault for breaking rules he knew nothing about.
When you're faced with a rules like that, a lot of guys prefer to take themselves out of the game...
Moe Hunter
http://moehunter.wordpress.com/
Theres one large problem here that I'll pick out. What you witness with those rules, is a distinct lack of communication.
One party WANTS something, that the other party DOESN'T have, and one or either of are under the pretense that each other should understand everything without comprimise/communication, or understanding. I saw it every day it my parents lives. People are not mind readers, and the more people who understand this, and take to life with a bit of patience and determination will go a lot further, rather than having a box full of expecttions and demands.
I paint F/A-18C's
Exactly. That's his problem. Every relationship he has had was one sided. What hes getting at is that she did not give a damn. It was all about her. How do you 'communicate' with that (other than saying 'goodbye')?
researcher, historian, gunslinger
Exactly. I was always of the school that relationships are about two people: The 'us' if you prefer. Just about every relationship I've been in hasn't been about 'us', they were about 'her', and that's ALL they were about: What HER needs were. What SHE wanted in a relationship. And most importantly, how SHE thought I wasn't measuring up to HER expectations. What's more, any time I tried to express what MY needs were relationship-wise, I was instantly the bad guy.
Well considering the total population of woman on the planet i'd said there would be quite a few who don't fit your description that seems to be for all woman. There is always an exception right?
researcher, historian, gunslinger
Well, I haven't found the exception yet, but that hasn't stopped me from looking. 2-d girls? No substitute for the real thing!
Student, Bioresearch Assistant, WAVE VP Communications
http://gndynames.wordpress.com
Someone like that isn't worth pursuing. That's how I feel. I must say those rules are more untrue stereotypes (sp?) than anything else.
Student
http://anime.scripts.mit.edu/miteiru/
I think it's wrong of you to take a few personal experiences and generalize it to the entire woman population. :/
Your local Otaku Cashier.
But when you think about it, people do that all the time with everything. Someone might see a foreigner from X country acting retarded and go "Man, everyone from X country are idiotic and should just leave". As long as there's labeling in the world, you're gonna see generalization all the time.
Student
http://anime.scripts.mit.edu/miteiru/
But that doesn't mean that it's right. It's a logical fallacy. If possible, it's better to avoid hasty generalizations.
Your local Otaku Cashier.
I never said it was right, but that it occurs regardless if people like it or not.
~Undine~
http://bluebluewave.wordpress.com
Very true, but from most comments seen here alas one can deduce a lot of men and women fall prey to this error, they make assumptions and generalizations about their (possible) partner(s).
researcher, historian, gunslinger
And I would agree with you, if it hadn't happened so often and the cases weren't so similar. You know what they say about "Once is an accident, twice is a coincidence, three times...'
NEET
Somehow their comments do make sense...
Most of them are young working male(in their early 20s), they probably just started working which require them to focus on their work 100%. I'm not trying to say being in a relationship will ruin ones career. But the chances of distracting ones attention towards their work is unavoidable in one way or another.(Worst of all, we're talking about the ever competitive Japan) Not everyone could balance their work life and personal life that well. So... they decided to put relationship aside and focus their energy on their job instead.
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Besides that, commitment would be another reason too. Being a young lad, they probably doesn't like the idea of being tied up or losing their own space/time. Other than that, past relationship trauma could be another reason why young man doesn't want to get involved in relationship at the moment ^^
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Above is just my humble opinion. Sorry if I sounded like a MCP ^o^
Student
http://anime.scripts.mit.edu/miteiru/
Newsflash: Women work too believe it or not. Putting work above relationships had proven to be pretty devastating to many people that I know of. I have a friend who went to Harvard and worked on Wall Street before the stock market crash. In high school, her best friend who had the same GPA and SAT scores dropped out, got married at an early age, and is now having her 1st son. You may think that she's unhappy with her life, but it's actually the Harvard graduate who tells me she regrets focusing on work.
At first, the Harvard graduate looked down on her best friend for focusing on a relationship, but now she only wishes that she had taken that path too.
Moe Hunter
http://moehunter.wordpress.com/
Perfect example of what men and women instinctively want out of life.
NEET
Thanks for letting me know women work too ^^
Putting relationships above work had proven to be pretty devastating to many people that I know of. I have a friend who went to hotel school and worked at a 5 star hotel. On the other hand, his colleagues who entered into the company the same time with him got married few months after he works, and is now having to file divorce with his waifu and being fired by the company because he can't perform at work. You may think that he's happy with his life, but it's actually my friend who tells me he felt glad that he focuses on work.
At first, his friend keep teasing him for focusing on work instead of having a relationship, but now he only wishes that he had taken that path too....
ps: Sorry, if I sounded like an a$$, Mimi. I apologize in advance if what I said has offended you in anyway.
My grandmother once said 'There's always two side for each story. There is no absolute'
Student
http://anime.scripts.mit.edu/miteiru/
You're right, but I think that you can't ditch one or the other in the long run. Having a job is good, but at some point in life, having a long-term relationship is important too.
Sorry I sounded really mean in my last post. ^^; I should be the one apologizing.
NEET
Mimi meanie~ (T.T) *run to the corner crying*
Technical Writer/Editor, Designer, Collector, Artist, Nice Guy
http://www.xjaymanx.com/toyboxx
@Mimi & Akidora: Now-now, kids, every situation (work or home) is unique and has its own unique characteristics, problems, regrets, and resolutions... whatever the choice. ^_^
Student
http://anime.scripts.mit.edu/miteiru/
Sorries ;_;
NEET
^^
InfoSys Student and Saxophone Player
I agree strongly with your statement here. Everything works in balance, I just think it is hard to maintain that balance for everyone. Whether it be balancing work and a relationship, or just the two sides of a serious relationship.
From my experience, when you do too much of one or the other (i.e. spending all your time with your gf/bf or just working all the time and not taking part in social activities) everything tends to crash and burn.
Software Engineer
http://www.neilduckett.com
With all these guys bowing out it just makes it easier for me .... i LOVE living in Japan and having so many girls keen for a relationship and so few blokes willing to give it a go!
I paint F/A-18C's
Yeah, it was a different world for me in Japan. I stood out there as 5'11" white guy. On the west coast of the US, nobody notices you. Lot more work that way.
Designer / Visual Editor
http://www.youtube.com/user/ImperialPimp
Exactly !
Japan is the best place to be if you like girls, as there are seemingly NO sexual morals (like the kind we have in Western, or Judeo-Christian countries).
Some people on this thread seem to understand very little about Japanese sexual culture & ways of life , maybe because some of them are 17 and from the country-side in the states...
Student/Freelance Programmer
A girl once told me "It's NOT okay to treat women as objects and treat objects as women!!", I won't tell you why she said that... >.>;;;;
Anyway, some of the comments seem to think all girls are too much work and think sex is the only reward to be reaped. At the end of the day each person is different and you'll have your different challenges and rewards for each one. What Mimi said...
フリーター。
http://www.seizya.com/
As much as I want a girlfriend or to even be settled, I don't have time anymore because I'm constantly running or planning for something in the future. Also, I help out my family whenever I can. Family is a big part of your life you know. Oh and of course, there are my hobbies.
I have my principles. I'm not saying that I'm hard to catch in the end though. If life's a "Tokimemo" game, the girl needs high marks on scholastic ability and attentiveness, but the girl doesn't need high marks on athletic ability and fashion to easily catch me. In other words, I need a girl with etiquette and school smarts, but she can be weak in sports (which makes her even more cute) and she doesn't need to be stylish. (Leave those weaknesses to me.)
NEET part-time - Technical Support Officer - Network security engineer
http://burugureibi.blogspot.com/
i'll just slot in my 2 cents
i've always wanted a girl who would be like the very close friend in your life. basically can think what you are thinking at a moment, eat your food... that sorta closeness
when a couple 'officially' becomes a bf/gf relationship, i sometimes see that they kind of back off, or even start to put formality in their relationship, place restrictions, etc
I don't really like that 'formality' (can't think of a better word for it) that couples place on themselves. That said, it's not that i don't want a 'serious' relationship, but i seem to define/see 'serious' in a whole different way that everyone else.
i guess that's my downfall...
Pokemon master
http://thecococafe.wordpress.com/
I think it's pretty much the same with me. For as long as I can remember my vision of an ideal relationship was someone who is basically no different than a best friend, except for more hugs. If I get what you mean by formality, I don't really want any of that either. :/
Nekophilia
Anime and stuff is just a part of my hobby in the end.. And women are not just for... ahem. How could a Tenga REPLACE THEM?!
大学生
http://okashi.cloudy-skies.net/
Aww :(
Kokoro Kotonoha's personal trainer
http://loli1983.wordpress.com
What is Tenga anyway? Flame away if you need to. Ya'll have my permission to do so.
Government Goon
http://www.dannychoo.com/adp/eng/892/Tenga+Review.html
Kokoro Kotonoha's personal trainer
http://loli1983.wordpress.com
Are you serious? And 56% here on this very site would buy Tenga?
Scientist, unemployed.
http://fmphoenixhawk.livejournal.com
Not me. I'd rather have an actual female. But unemployment and living at home kind of makes that impossible. ::Sigh::
Your local Otaku Cashier.
Well, I think it's more on the lines of "I'll buy it to try it out" sort of thing or jokingly, but I bet there are some on this site that very well want one. Also, it's at 63% now.
Government Goon
I sorta understand what those men have said as I am sort of in that situation. Putting in time and money to invest into a serious relationship is tough. Finding a woman who shares similar values, ideals, and interest is also not an easy job. In this world of first impressions, this doesn't help the situation (for example: are you good looking?/How much money do you make?)
From my own personal experience, the few women that i have had an interest in somehow we always end up being friends or they are already taken. The ones that aren't taken it comes down to can i imagine being with this person for the rest of my life, is it worthwhile in pursuing her more. Sadly, the answer usually is a No.
Technical Account Manager
http://howdoyoufigure.wordpress.com
Here here. At this point, I'm not really looking for long term commitment, but rather someone to enjoy life with. Having one full time job is enough to keep me occupied, and focusing on career development really places a lot of restrictions on other possible long term activities (especially if relocation could be involved).
And then there's the current state of the economy...
Student
http://nauxolo.awardspace.com/
Girls are expensive... yes, but I would feel incomplete playing games and watching anime all day. It's a lonely existence that cannot be replaced by the imagination.
Otaku Security Guard
While I definitely wouldn't mind a 3D woman, I don't have one, and I like 2D as well so I guess I'm fine for now.
Dropping computers, starting all over again at Journalism
http://xspblog.com
Gonna be 100% honest here... being almost 30 year old already, and having had previous experiences (thanks God), I must say that being single right now is not as bad as I'd have imagined before.
Not that I want to be that way the rest of my life, but I'm probably not as desperate as most men my age.
I know that it'll eventually happen, so I'm not really in a hurry.
Beind surrounded by sad stories about couples who married too early, had kids, only to have horrible divorce stories to tell afterwards kinda makes it easier too... :P
Sometimes I think I'm just different you know? I mean, really, I'm almost surrounded by people who seems to think sex is everything in life, having girlfriends is everything they can possibly expect and wish for... that and earning money at all costs.
Maybe I really am kinda broken to the current society... but I myself have no problems with this fact.
I will search for a girlfriend when I feel I want to, I'll probably get married and have kids when the time comes, and I have my own ambitions though I aim most to work with something I really love instead of aiming to get as much money as I can.
Might sound like utopia... or some kids dreams. But as long as I can, I will keep having those goals in mind.
It used to be the case that society made a huge pressure on me. I used to get very worried about not "belonging" to the cool people's group, with my tastes not matching that of "normal" people, with all my friends getting married having kids and I don't, with most of my friends getting graduated and getting stable jobs, and stuff like that.
Nowadays, I just don't care. Trying to move at my own pace, which really is slower than average I must admit, but it is my own pace nonetheless...
Mad scientist
Looks like you think like me. However I wouldn't mind if "my own pace" would find a nice woman within the next few years. Finding the right one when you are ready should be way better than finding one when you think other people expect you to find one.
http://darkdam.deviantart.com/
those men are way too full of themselves.I'd take a real woman over tenga anytime.
hikikomori
My response includes opinions I have unwittingly collected in essence from associates who wouldn't respond otherwise, but I make no effort to distinguish which are mine or theirs, and so I have this disclaimer to lessen but not eliminate the embarrassment I would normally have prohibiting me from posting:
"I'm just lowering my standards to the point where failure is so pervasive that things can only get better if and when I choose to play my part."
"I'm in the wrong country; I'm still trying to find my niche in the scary modern society that is increasingly isolated, where 'tolerance' is a euphemism for 'I don't care about what you do, as long as you don't interfere with how I wish to live.'"
"I'm not ready to tackle obtaining the American Dream (of spouse/house/kids/wealth). Hello Internet, where we can selectively socialize, and success (as viewed by the mentality of in-person society at large) is the exception."
"For otaku especially, where superficial consumerism is a crux, why bother with the impossible standards that one gradually accepts as ideal, hindering finding a life partner? The key here might be to find someone who can acknowledge and accept nihilism with loving arms."
Addendum:
"BOKU WA LOLICON" <-- I hear this a lot from ronery guys; where is their salvation?
university film student | ecchikid | the Archivist
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I'm reading all these comments; some of them I find myself nodding in agreement to. I'm not exactly looking for a relationship myself - I definitely want one at some point, but for now I'm plenty satisfied with my school work and my hobbies. If a chance comes along I'll go ahead and take it, but I'm not going to specifically go out looking for one.
I know I'm not exactly a perfect guy, but who is? I know that if I'm in a relationship I'll treat my girlfriend to the best of my ability and give her my time, money and support. It wouldn't be fair to go into a relationship if I'm not prepared to do that. This may sound harsh, but people who cannot give up the time needed for a healthy relationship with good communication really aren't ready for one anyway.
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But you know, after reading these comments, if there's one important thing I want to say, it's this: a lot of us seem to be emphasizing that men and women are different. Men may want to focus on work; women expect men to be the impossible; women make all the rules; women cost money.
Guys, please. Men and women may be different in some ways, but - maybe it's just me, but I've always thought that a relationship shouldn't mean that the woman is more superior, or that the guy has to spend all the money. There are certainly some expectations from society, but all in all both sides contribute in a healthy relationship. I don't think it's supposed to be a one-way street, and it'd be rather unfair to simply point out all the things you'll have to give up to be in a relationship.
It's not like the woman isn't spending her time and money on you as well.
Artist - MMORPG'R
I really hate to see this, "women are expensive" excuse. Not -all- women require deep pockets. Maybe I'm just easy to please and simple though.
I don't mind sitting at home doing nothing or just playing games. I don't care if you bring home McDonalds for dinner instead of going out to a fancy restaurant. I don't require huge diamond studded jewelry; I'd be happy with a cheapy little resin dragon necklace, or nothing at all, and love you just as much.
All I want is the love, companionship, trust, etc. I'm not saying relationships don't have their costs an all, but I'm speaking directly about this "women" costing money; not the necissities of building a working/lasting relationship.
I can understand guys who don't want to get into relationships because they don't want to deal with the hassle of psycho women or the mind gamers. (Given not all women are like that either, but I see that as a more valid excuse than money.) I've been there with guys and wanted a bit of a break to cool down.
I can give a little leway on "I don't have the time" though. I wouldn't mind waiting around for someone working full time as long as I get to spend sometime with them inbetween. If not that, atleast some communication.
You'd rather "go fishing, play games, or spend time on the internet?" So would I. Heck, I haven't been fishing in years...
Er.. I've ranted a bit much, wups. >>;
Student
http://www.certaincake.com
Hee.
This is of course a response in jest, but:
Why are you all the way over in Pennsylvania. D:
Mad scientist
To keep the light mood:
It would appear that there is the perfect girl for every guy (and vice versa)... just your luck that you aren't in the same country :P
I was actually considering replying something like you did but I wasn't bold enough to actually do it XD
Hmmm... I wonder if it's actually possible to find the one for you on DC. Somehow I think there is a fair chance that somebody would fit well together but we are too far apart for that to happen.
Student
http://www.certaincake.com
It's not like distance matters as much as it did a few decades ago nowadays. A different continent is still harsh, though.
It'd be something else Danny could add to the page, though. Otaku-dating-service of doom. I see a rather surprising amount of fellow Karlslanders around.
Could actually see that working for the countries with the 'densest' DC populations.
Hahaha ,I just realized that there are probably a lot of people that frequent this site who would be perfect for each other. ^_^
Ahhhhh it would be great to have an otaku girlfriend though. I've met many girls who have similar intersts to me in terms of playing instruments of liking similar books, movies, etc. But i am yet to meet a girl who could recognize me playing the theme from Howl's Moving Castle, or would be interested in making an AMV, or cosplaying, or anything of that nature. Hell, i haven't even met any guys that are into anime/manga. Hard to find people to share these things with when your passions are only shared by a small percentage of people. (most of which live in other countries)
Student
http://www.certaincake.com
If it's music or cosplay stuff, just go to your random closest anime convention. I tend to notice that the female cosplayers apparently seem to outnumber the male cosplayers at least over here. And they usually know their songs. (If you take crossdressing guys out of the figures, at least. I'm not sure where to put them.)
Student
I have to say that I really agree with Mimi's point. I honestly won't take those "reasons" at face value unless I were able to interact with the individuals who said so. I think there are people who are genuinely too pre-occupied with other things in their life to look for that significant other, but I also believe that an even larger amount have just given up on dealing with the frustrations of finding that significant other.
I think a slightly skewed view of relationships pervades when a person can say that a tenga should be "good enough". Comments like that either come from a person who has given up on finding a genuine human connection, or from someone who has never experienced one.
Figurine Enthusiast, Uni Student
If only 2d girls or my figus could speak, i will certainly go for 2d girls..
フリーター。
http://www.seizya.com/
www
There's no way that one petition will pass.
???Confused???
I've never been in a relationship before, but I'm guessing it's a lot of compromises, communication and only time will tell...I think finding equal grounds in the relationship is the long term task...
student
http://www.gunpla-inochi.com
I've been rejected, given the cold shoulder, and lost friends in my high school years from trying to win a girl's heart. I do want that feeling of being with that special someone and spending time together but right now.. it's all about priorities. Big waste of time looking so now I'm just gonna leave it up to fate to set me up with the "right one" while I put all my focus into finishing college and everything that's beneficial for me.
Pseudo-Graphic Designer, 触手 wrangler, H-Man
http://lightningsabre.blogspot.com/
I think what you said described my experience on this... except I'm not in college anymore. And yes, for now I'll leave it to fate. If I want fate to happen, I'll make it happen if I want it badly with that special someone. Oh and I guess I am particular to what kind of woman I'm looking for, which just makes it so much harder when I'm not in a position to be picky.
Student, Bioresearch Assistant, WAVE VP Communications
http://gndynames.wordpress.com
I'm in pretty much the same case as you, although at times I do somewhat feel the need for someone...
Eroge blogger
http://omochikaeri.wordpress.com/
I never really delved into the relationship thing. I kinda tried, it didn't work out. I told myself I'd do it after I finish my studies. Now I'm telling myself I'd do it after I settle into a full time job and manage my finances properly. Need to take care of myself before I allocate time to another individual. In the meantime, eroge is sufficient.
Editor
http://cavalock.blogspot.com/
why can't a guy have BOTH a gf/wife AND a tenga? there will be days or nites when the gf/wife isn't around or not in the mood, out comes the tenga!
And really, if a roony guy can afford a tenga, he can also surely afford a 3D hooker for a quickie to.
browsing the nets
http://otakuposts.blogspot.com/
i'm single and happy right now. i'm not rich and marrying right now is not an option i can take even though i'm in my 30's. so focusing on my job is the only option i have in front of me right now.
if i get a chance to have a gf, i'll take it. Also i've seen many people above say i wont search for a partner. If you dont search, how will you find that someone special? no one is going to come in front of you and say make me your spouse. so do keep looking for that person.
but one thing is for sure here. Misunderstandings always happen between people due to lack of communication. People in a relationship should and sacrifice something from their side to gain something from the other persons side. Relationships are always about giving and taking.
The part about women being expensive might be true to some of them but not everyone. Likewise men seeing women as sex objects is true to some extent. Most of the single guys like me dont have a gf cause we either dont have the courage to ask a girl or we think a hundred things like will she be expensive, or will she stick like plaster to me or will she dominate me, etc. and back out. Truth is unless we open our mouths we wont know what the other person is or will be like.
Lot of the posts above were really mind openers for me here. Thanks a lot, girls, guys and Danny too.
College Student
If most Japanese men think that way, in theory there should be more opportunities for people who don't think that way?
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dakimakura/
I'm not bad with women, but when the last 7 girlfriends I've had have seen significant advancements in their jobs and moved out of state... I've just given up.
So if any women want to see nice career advancements, I'm looking, lol...
Yeah... I'm just gonna go cry myself to sleep now...
Girls are too complicated to understand, though you can't live without them T^T
College Freshmen
If you put in the time and effort into something, it usually makes the final reward that much better. At least that's what I think. I think the guy who said he couldn't be bothered to ask women is just stupid. He admits he likes them, but says it's not worth the trouble to ask them out. I don't get how that works.
Daigakusei [Consular and Diplomatic Affairs]
http://dixinfernal.wordpress.com
3D all the way~
Mind Navigator
http://xenoprobia.blogspot.com
"-I'd rather go fishing, play games or spend time on the internet."
Ok. So I was reminded of this song when I read that line. Strangely fitting.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwsQDz_yhAA
http://akari-nyan.deviantart.com/
Been with a girl for a while...but then we seperated after she moved to China...and then after a while she came back to Canada...but haven't talked since. =w=''
Explorer of the finer things in life
I'm kinda disturbed by those article comments. Saying that a tenga is a good enough repacement for a real relationship, I think that's an unhealthy view of life. Sure finding the right partner can be very tough with many dissapointments and sad times along the way, but I feel that without hard times there can be no real happines.
Life is about trying. And if you don't think it's worth your time to even try, is that really "living" ?
Student
Maybe they are too afraid to try, maybe they are waiting for androids. :P
Explorer of the finer things in life
Yeah, but if they think having a real woman is epensive, just wait till they see the prictag on those androids... ;D
i somehow agree with these men. i also think that a relationship could be stressful and cost quite a lot.
it depends what are your expectations from your partner; if you dont really know why you are seeing someone or just looking for some hanky panky i think it is a waste of time, however if you are looking for a partner to live with and start a family, spend as much time as you need.
thats how i see it...
Programming Student
http://greendiscord.blogspot.com/
really really saddening this sorta guys...
the tenga comment is the most foolish one ever how can that stupid thing subsitute a real life woman?!
and so one of the many reasons of Japan's decreased population is this!
Student
This news has many good and intelligent comments, spent a lot of time reading them..
~Undine~
http://bluebluewave.wordpress.com
[bad joke]
How could a tenga ever replace a woman?!? It doesn't have boobs!!!
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Sorry... I couldn't resist.
Anyway, I don't think it would be fair to say that it is either men or women who 'are at fault' for any general problems for people to find and sustain stable and happy relationships.
If there is fault to begin with, I think people of both genders are at the root of it. With the evolution of our society, the way people interact and the expected performance of people in life (with the near impossible achievments demanded on academic, personal, hobby and professional levels - all at once) relationships are changing and in a period of trying to find a new balance between their historical composition and the changed society.
People are becoming -and made- increasingly difficult so it's only normal that relationships become more difficult.
Perhaps we should all also try and work on how we are, behave and act towards life and each other, this might also improve in how relationships are formed and exist.
I'll admit I have thought it could be great to have perfectly shaped, obedient cyborg nekomimi maids to cater my every whim and be with me. Sure the thought sounds nice but would that ever replace a real partner? No it wouldn't.
And as for us who expect and demand too much and are to selfish? Back to reality people!
Perfect doesn't exist, no man or women can possibly conform to our demands (heck we don't even conform to them ourselves!) so let's rather focus on just being happy with normal people who like and respect us for who we are? ^^
Medical School Student
having a complicated situation now, i'm just waiting for my girl to finish all her problems and be ready for me
Office Administrator
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Not all women are money grabbing whores who just want to waste all your time and money. I think the stereotypes being slung around here are ridiculous. I’m not saying that some girls aren’t high maintenance, because some of them are. But surprising as it may be, some of them aren’t either.
I am a woman, almost 22 years old. I have been with my fiancé (23 years old) for 4 years. During all the time I have known him, he has been a student with very little cash flow. And you know what? That’s fine by me, because I love him to death and I love him for his heart and his personality, not for his wallet. We have been through hard times and had arguments, but we get over it. Communication is key, nowadays a lot of people don’t spend time with each other and communicate like they used to.
My fiancé is in University on a 3 year course, once out of Uni he will finally have the qualifications and training to begin in his career. Housing is expensive here and we wouldn’t get a mortgage while he’s still in uni, so we can’t live together in a house of our own yet. So until he finishes uni and gets a job, then gets a mortgage, we are living with our parents.
We probably won’t be able to afford to get married for about 5 years from now. But that doesn’t bother me either. I don’t need a paper certificate and an expensive ceremony to tell me that I love him. So I can wait, and I will. Money and status isn’t everything and there are more people then you’d think who feel the same way. I could have dumped my fiancé a couple of years ago and got together with a man who already has a career, a house, a nice car and plenty of cash to splash, but would I have been happy like that? I don’t think so.
Some women are rotten eggs, simple fact, but people need to stop tarring the whole female population with the same brush. I’ve known many lovely, decent women in my life both of old age and young. Finding the right woman for you might take you years, but it will be worth it when you do. People should never give up on love.
A tenga might wax your dolphin ok, but it’s never going to be a loving, trusting companion for life. Because relationships aren’t just about money and sex, it’s about having someone you love and cherish to be there for you, whenever, whatever, because she loves you and she really would give you the world if she could.
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code weaver
http://thejimdandy.com
I agree totally. I also feel that expectations between men and women today are too high and unrealistic. The media today would have everyone believe we need to chase after size 2 models or young millionairs (but always aim high yeah?). That is not the norm anywhere (ok, I've not been to the Valley or the Big Apple yet ^^;).
My friend went rural and became a teacher. He's happily married with kids. Me, I still ponder about cashing out of my single corporate life and becoming a farmer. Just my 0.02
Fun factoid - there are far fewer SUV per person in rural NZ than in the cities. Utes are awesome!
Student
http://www.joesblog.jp
well, looks like less competition for meh!
code weaver
http://thejimdandy.com
LOL Good luck then ^_^/
Mechanical Engineering student
http://sabekujikaneda.multiply.com/
I'm not looking forward to a relationship anytime soon. Hell I expect to be single until I lie down on my deathbed. I'll probably spend my days working for the things that I am interested in, supporting my family, etc.
The reason why I don't look forward to finding that special someone is because of the things I see everyday. Everywhere I look I see people taking relationships very lightly. It seems that I'm surrounded by people who think having a GF/BF means being cool and "in" with the times. It's like people nowadays can't live alone. It irritates me so much to see relationships end because of such shallow reasons. It makes me mad to hear the different levels of relationships like "mutual understanding" and crap like that. I'm afraid to fall in "love" with a girl that would change me into the very people that I despise.
Another reason why I don't look forward to a relationship is fear. My first experience with love didn't turn out well. If I tell you what happened, most of you would think that it's a stupid reason to not fall in love again (and you all would probably say that it was my fault to begin with). But to me, it is THE reason. I didn't expect to be hurt so much from that experience. Because of that, I found out just how sensitive I am, how easily my heart yells in pain for such a thing. I fear that if the same thing happens again, I might do something I would regret later.
Probably the last reason why I prefer to be alone is because of me. I'm not exactly the most handsome, most intelligent, most influential guy around. In other words, there are better guys out there than me. A girl will be very disappointed if she falls for me. She would be better off with some other guy instead.
Well that's enough of my personal views in life -_-
Mad scientist
In order to love somebody else you have to be able to love yourself. "I'm not exactly the most handsome, most intelligent, most influential guy around." doesn't really sound like you like yourself. Maybe you should start by falling in love with yourself (in the good way, that is).
Also being "the most handsome, most intelligent, most influential guy around" isn't as good as it sounds. It causes people to become jealous and some people wishes for bad stuff to happen to guys like that (and sometimes they help their wishes come true). Sometimes I wish I was normal and got a job like a carpenter or something and being marrie to a "normal" wife living in a normal house and so on. Instead I'm single and hard at work at uni. On top of that I really often encounter people who fail to realise stuff I find simple. The irony is that I have what people want and it actually saddens me that I have it >.<
Be careful what you wish for because you might get it and when you are stuck with it even if it turns out to be completely different from what you expected it to be.
Mad scientist
A relationship isn't about having a substitude for dolphin waxing, yet it would appear that those guys think like that o_O
A relationship is about finding somebody you care for and want to spend time with doing all sorts of stuff. Another issue that Tenga can't solve is getting children. I noticed that the men in the article are all 23 or 24. Once they turn 30 (or maybe earlier than that) they are likely to start thinking about children. I know I didn't think about that at all when I was 23, but I think about it now and I'm not 30 yet (I do miss somebody to make them with though).
As for the money issue. Today women actually work and earn money so if you find one who cares about you then it shouldn't be an issue. If you can't work out the financial part of the relationship then you found the wrong one for you.
To be honest I wouldn't mind having a non-working wife. It would mean that there would be somebody at home doing all the stuff like shopping and cooking that I wouldn't have time for since I would work quite a lot to make up for having only one income. It would mean that home would be a place to spend quality time with each other and not a place where you are always short on time and have to cook when you are tired after a long day at work. It would also mean that the children would have their mother within reach most/all the time, which I consider to be quite important. Maybe somebody will call me sexist for this point of view (it's the old fashioned view of roles of the genders) but I think that if a married couple figures that this is the best solution for them, then I don't see a problem in it.
Supervisor
Meet the right one and you'll never think like these guys in the article do... ;)
Project Manager
http://cherryblossomsfalling.myfastforum.org/index.html
I think that's the key and I think your comment is the purest response to the people in the article. A lot of us (men and women alike) run into a lot of "wrong one's" along the way. Being almost 40 and single .. I did miss that phase where many of my friends who got married in their 20s are divorced or had terrible marriages. But I'm also missing out on the support and friendship and love and children and happiness that comes from being in a good relationship. Most of my divorced friends are remarried to great people. You just have to not give up in your search to find the right one :)
Physical Therapist
http://www.flyingpussyfoot.com
The Internet with its various ways to wax the dolphin reduced the need of a woman for alot of guys.Why bother with all the commotion that goes with getting a woman when you can turn on your PC and have another one every night.
Sure there are some needs that the Internet cant feed but the sexual drive is still the thing that controls most humans
Polytechnic Junior, Bronze Lifesaving Trainee, Mech Designer In-training.
http://thehangerbay.wordpress.com/
Anime must spread and cover the entire world... but this is one trend that can keep itself where it is. :(
Student
As a woman myself, I find it quite angering when all men do are place terrible and horrific stereotypes on us. "All women are money traps!" Honestly, it pains me to take money from my boyfriend. I just don't want to do it. There are women out there that enjoy having a nice time, not receiving gifts. If you're worried about money, avoid getting a girlfriend from the big city, or from the Hills.
Women are a lot more than just cooking and cleaning utensils. I wish more people (especially of the visual culture community) would see us as actual people. Not oversized dolls. It's actually quite funny, though... Notice how it's a lot of single men that see women this way. :]
(and sorry, guys. xP I know this doesn't apply to everyone, but it just boils my blood when I see things like this)
Mad scientist
I completely agree with you. It's a really bad idea to stereotype the opposite gender. It's not nice to be considered a pleasure tool. I clearly remember the first time I encountered a girl who wanted to get to know me. Well it took me like a minute or two to figure out that she didn't care about me, but she seemed quite interested in my dolphin. That was kind of weird and no fun at all.
I think it's weird that some people think of the other gender as one type while they know that there is a zillion different types of their own gender.
Pseudo-Graphic Designer, 触手 wrangler, H-Man
http://lightningsabre.blogspot.com/
I'm actually the opposite where I'd try to give women I like gifts... but yeah it never really works out because it's not how it works. That's how I work however...
Mad scientist
ohh.. being nice to girls and then they will not accept it as something nice. I tried that. I once held a door open so some girl could get through and then she called me a sexist pig who used old fashion methods to supress women D:
I wasn't even thinking about her being a girl. I just noticed that somebody wanted to get through the door so I decided not to let go of it as I would find that rather rude to do right in front of somebody.
Pseudo-Graphic Designer, 触手 wrangler, H-Man
http://lightningsabre.blogspot.com/
Wow... chivalry IS dead.
code weaver
http://thejimdandy.com
Don't worry, that nice girl who called you a sexist pig just have issues that's all. No doubt she'll complain too if you shut the door on her :)
There is nothing wrong with courtesy. A little goes a long way.
http://animaticfigmation.com/
I prefer my wife any day thank you very much. ^^
College Student
Yeah, i'd prefer my own girl too anyday. Nothing beats the warmth and touch of the one you love.
A good partner and relationship really isn't hard to find. It's only our own expectations and selfish desires that may blind us from finding them.
Ninja / Engineer / Sensei / 魔法少女 (What!?! I can't be, I'm a guy...)
Tenga huh? I think a real girl is better by far. 3D all the way! ^^
Then again, Tenga is kinda 3D itself isn't it? ^^;
Student artist
http://www.requestview.wordpress.com
You dont need money for romance, may for food but that's it
Student
Think this is part of why Japan has an aging population.
Student
http://www.certaincake.com
Germany's population is aging, too. And I doubt it's for this reason.
part time illustrationist, doll clothing seamstress
http://puppy52art.com/
I think some of the jerks I dated before should just discover tenga and stay away from actual women :P LOL ahem that aside, being in a relationship/marriage is hard work which may or may not be rewarding. I think people have the rights to make their own choices, and I wonder if it's the higher power up there trying to decrease the world population ;P!
Mad scientist
Why would you even consider dating jerks? :P
But you have a point. If those guys value women that little then I guess it wouldn't be nice to date them.
Media Student
Recently broke up with my gf who I was with for 2 months. My choice because I realized that being with her robbed me of my time which I prefer to spend on my own, it was unfair on myself because in my opinion if you're with a girl who wants to be with you, you should do everything to make it special and pleasant for her. So I finished it because I didn't like her enough that I would lose my precious ronery time which I missed. I almost always turn down meeting with friends so that I can relax at home, unless there's a reason I want to go out. Such as to buy something or see a particular film.
Mad scientist
The key to stay togher for years is to be apart :P
My point is that even if you are together with somebody you shouldn't spend ALL your time together. A couple is two people and they don't think alike regarding everything. People need to have some time on their own once in a while and "the perfect couple" who are always together starts to suffer because they want to do stuff on their own too. The result is that they end up being tired of always being stuck with the other one and split up.
Consultant
I am pleasantly surprised that a news item entitled "Japanese men prefer Tenga" would have elicited 135 (counting my own) responses. Of course, I have not read all of the responses (though I have read quite a few) and all I have to say is "to each his own."
I actually read every comment on this. I usually skim down and read here and there when there are well over a hundred, but the topic proved to be interesting so...
I think anyone reading this should be able to realize that not giving in to foolish stereotypes goes a long way in helping one understand another. I think it is also important to keep in mind that everyone is essentially a product of their environment(to some extent). Considering the media today, that environment isn't always close to reality or "good". So, i think that is where a lot of these distorted views of men and woman are coming from.
Like i said above, the pressure to succeed, achieve status, compete, and conform is very strong in society. Combine that with the plastic view of reality that the media projects and it is easy to understand how a young man can develop this mindset. A few bad experiences with a woman, combined with all the above factors, and you get someone who isolates themselves and avoids relationships. Or do people not see this?
Consider the woman's perspective with having to deal with being labeled as housewives, sexual objects, ect. This is rooted far deeper in history than the social problems this article discusses. Though it must be frustrating if you encounter any of this, i can't help but consider how things have been in the past concerning woman's place in society. If you look at how we have advanced in equality, i think it is safe to assume we'll reach a time when these differences will be history. And we'll look back and laugh at how foolish we were as a species to behave in such a way towards each other. Ahhh well i'm rambling now and too idealistic me thinks.
Student/Unemployed
i cant help but to say this but plz hit me with the harisan a million times if u want but hear me out, i have read all the female side of the comment and i understand that they dun wanna get labeled as etc etc of all sorts of title, why are u girls so concern how a man find relationship is ? i mean if a guy can find an object to be his wife why can't girls do it ? do you girls really need a guy ? is not that you girls can't but it seems that way here, i dunno but still i know is wrong to not have a relationship but my past trauma has given me damage enough for life and i am the kind of guy who can't even take a step further anymore , who's gonna care people like me ? none in fact thts who, so we ended up cultivated an immunity or a cure to this pain and feeling of loneliness, still is not perfect to cure it but at least we wont get hurt anymore, besides i myself is an otaku and is something that is not considered normal or approve in where i live in, therefore starting another relationship here is useless and my hope of getting a soul mate is never gonna come true anyway... i am not looking for another otaku girl to be with me, just someone understands me and care for me, even if that kind of person exist i would give my all to her too bad is just a dream. Dun get me wrong is not that i am saying all good girls are gone and us guys might as well give up, is just that searching for 1 is near impossible already in these times so why bother ? and another thing i am not the kind who mistreats girls or label them or anything, when i see a female getting bullied u can make sure i'll send whoever that are in a period of doom and hell.
So here i say we might as well go alone seeing our live are hard to live by alone already let alone to have a certain important someone to care about which can kill you if she have any trouble.
Then again girls can be be an ona-ist too , just dun see why cant girls do that .
(laet the smacking commence and SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORRRRRRRRRRRYYYYYYYYYYYYY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
Student/Unemployed
side note: i am not a coward
Student & Game Designer
http://www.artificialzeromedia.com/
"Having a relationship requires time, money and is stressful - which is why I think that its better just to do other stuff." - He wins the internets =D
Grocery Store Clerk
I can not afford a girl friend.
Mad scientist
now that's the wrong way of thinking. The right girlfriend for you would cost nothing if/when you are broke. Spending time together where you talk and stuff is free. There is no law that states that you need to take your girlfriend to a fancy resturant at least once a week.
Student
http://www.flickr.com/photos/dramacd/
I agree with them, but people shouldn't take itainews seriously...
Student
http://meganemarshmallow.wordpress.com/
Although I was somewhat disturbed by the fact that they like Tenga more, I really shouldn't be. After all, I know I'll never have a boyfriend, and I don't want one either. I prefer being with my figures very much to real people. Maybe someday, I won't be that way, but for now, I can live without other people.
College student, Mech programmer and striving photographer.
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Bottom line, people should know if they love their partner and if their partner loves them. YES I used the word love, its a very strong word, but damn it a relationship is all about loving each other. I've been with my girl for 4 years now and we NEVER argued about anything, I chose her for who she is and she chose me for who I am, we both love everything about each other even the embarrassing parts, its as simple as that. Screw how much money you have, screw what job you have or not, screw all the "game plan" crap! Together you can move mountains, fly over the highest clouds and reach your ultimate goal of having an actual fun loving FAMILY and die a very good death knowing your life was perfect! If you know you're screwing up, sit down and talk to your partner to work things out. If you cry about not having enough money all the time, get a job. There's ALWAYS a solution to every problem. whether you like it or not.
*pant pant*
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i am now 22 and married and have a kid. i argue with my wife sometimes because she talks very softly and i can't hear her so i get pissed hahahaha. thats pretty much the only thing we argue about. i treat my wife like a friend and i think thats the best feeling possible. i do believe in the traditional gender roles and she said she is cool with it. when we were dating, we take turns paying for each other. in a relationship, money is the last thing you should think about.
i have been in 10 relationships before i got married and in the end, a few relationships ended ugly. so what? whats the big deal? i had an ex girlfrd that broke up with me coz i wasn't known and didn't have much money. i was fxxking grade 10 at that time for god sakes. i know people who prefer 2d girls over 3d girls and i find that very sad. either they have problems or they are just otaku wannabe's.
pokemaster
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i am now 22 and married and have a kid. i argue with my wife sometimes because she talks very softly and i can't hear her so i get pissed hahahaha. thats pretty much the only thing we argue about. i treat my wife like a friend and i think thats the best feeling possible. i do believe in the traditional gender roles and she said she is cool with it. when we were dating, we take turns paying for each other. in a relationship, money is the last thing you should think about.
i have been in 10 relationships before i got married and in the end, a few relationships ended ugly. so what? whats the big deal? i had an ex girlfrd that broke up with me coz i wasn't known and didn't have much money. i was fxxking grade 10 at that time for god sakes. i know people who prefer 2d girls over 3d girls and i find that very sad. either they have problems or they are just otaku wannabe's.
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Almost all 3d women nowadays are easily impressed by riches, looks and brains. It's rare to find someone not shallow as these types. It would seem easier for some men to switch to these "dolphin enhancing" hobbies than get rejected. And 2d women won't bicker at you or complain even if you forget their birthday or if you smell like fish.
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i like my prey live and kickin
Graphic Design student/Pest-ridden Jackal of the Earth
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we have two hands, so why use a tenga?