Japanese Banks

what if u have athign that keep temperature constant like a ice pack -->
i'd say finger paint + password/ code
because even if u get cut off ( a certain parts) they can't get in without password and credit card so they need 3 now instead of 2.

Genital scans? Hahaha!

I would love to see that in action!
Everyone would be crouching down and'teabagging' the screen!

I dont trust in this kind of security, the only thing that proctect you from robbers is that is a new technology and is not know, but in some time it will be too easy to hack

it's seems like those movie type of crime where they use rentinal or palm as verification=.=!

Gabest,
Register for genital scan I guess,

Andy,
Teabagging! LOL

David,
Yum!

Well it certainly depends. Most Likely having a part of your body which easily promotes decapitation of your body part in order to steal stuff from you endangers the person more.

The problem with using biometrics for security is that unlike the credit card or a pin number, once someone steals it, you can't change it.

Oh and they don't need to cut off the body part to get the data they need to fool the scanners. You leave fingerprints everywhere, and I'm sure they'll come up with ways to replicate the data from the veins in the wrist.

手のひら静脈認証では喩え切断された手を持っていっても認証をパスすることはできませんよ。
詳しくは知りませんが、動脈も静脈と認識してしまい、異なったパターンと認識されてしまうからでしょう。

why not retinal?!? lol

Actually, if I was the robber, I wont be bothered to cut any part of your body off. I'd just hold the knife at vital parts of your body and get you to get you moeny out of the machine, since the excuse "oh I cant remember my pin..." won't apply here.

ANZ bank in Sydney had a incident end of last year or start of this year with their city fingerprint atm's.
I think in the end it was completely useless, all they get is the same video footage of someone commiting fraud by holding a gun to someone. And I have not seen this ATM's expand since :)
What was more interesting though, you need the persons card to enter into the ATM section.
I think these new security methods are actually putting people at more risk of being injured because of crime :(

Wouldn't you need blood running through the veins for you to use a body part. I guess the body part has to be fresh if you want to steal from his account.

Ha, I don't want that to be official. Rip my privates ;__;

They should try making the PIN number longer and allowing non-numeric characters.

well well TECH!! i think is a good idea about the fingerprint and the palm as well, but then we better be more careful with thieves if this kind of Tech reaches our contries because they besides stealing our money they'll be stealing parts of our body

That is pretty darn cool, but just like the movies, cut off the hand to get through the lab door!

Wow, Japan is getting so much more advance than us in the US. Wish we would get tech like that here, though I wouldn't use it for my bank lol.

This is so WOW.
I mean, when we first hear about those techs here, in Japan they are already being tested.

I remember when I first heard about paying stuff with your cellphone, in Japan people were already using it on metro stations and stuff.

Anyways, biometrics is the future. Figerprint, vein and retin scan... no safer way to identify a person.

its strange to think that in Japan pin numbers are getting phased out as old technology, pretty much just as we are starting to use chip and pin for everything.

The only down side is that id rather have someone rob me for my pin number than cut off my finger :P

Retinal scanning would be better and, even if a thief DID somehow manage to steal your eye, it wouldn't help them because retinal scans are very dependent on blood pressure.

Having my weener cut off to protect the 20 dollars I have in the bank is not quite worth it.

The "cutting off body parts" crime has already begun in the "more" criminal parts of Europe. Thieves who want to steal cars that use fingerprint keys simply cut of the finger or whole hand of the owner.

lolz genital scans and teabagging XDDD

as much as i love the advancement of technology but having a part of your body took off is not worth it

hmm that is going to help decrease theft and what not but it also means you can't ask anyone else to access your account for various reasons.

Well there will always be pros and cons for each security feature. Though this one will be much safer than a using a pin no., now for those body parts snatcher X__x;

very interesting, i think it won't come to USA soon. people will raise question of privacy with banks containing our fingerprints. Vain thing, sounds creepy, and you know i never thought of someone cutting of a finger and now its scary. If this ever come to here, I'm keeping my money under my mattress. LOL not really, but still.

Sounds really neat! It would deter card theft but really will people go to those lengths to get money? Probably.

My only issue is if I went to Japan to use one of these ATMs, I can't read katakana! I can read (at least some) Japanese at the moment in english characters so please provide an english character version ^^.

That brings up a very good point about carrying a lot of money around in Japan. That would be kind of dangerous to carry around a lot of money, but then again I can't read the atm terminals x_x. Maybe that is something the tourist industry can work on? getting temporary bank accounts to travelers spending a month or more.

Yes, TheM0nk got it right... A rotting finger, eyeball, toe or anything else won't work... Except in Hollywood movies (as always).

Card thieves usually take (almost) all your money from an ATM within one hour, because a bank account can be blocked pretty fast. So I don't see any reason why those thieves should worry about a rotting finger if they going to steal your money within a hour. A finger won't rot in just one hour.

Before reading the body part cutting thing, I already thought of that idea/issue ages ago when they like 1st introduced scans for banks. Anyways, that would be a problem...kinda gross...Anyways, I think they should have both PIN and/or body when you want to deposit/withdraw or w/e.

i think pin number is good enough.

I read that in order to protect against the theft of fingers/eyes/whatever they intend to ensure that it will reject dead body parts. We still risk new types of crime though.
I don't think Danny has to fear for his dolphin. I don't think any bank will install a dolphin scanner. Imagine having a dolphin scanner in public in a bank where people line up and prepares their dolphins... it's just not going to happen.

Yes, i would ues that in additionto some kind of an ID chanallege (Like pin number or question)

How about retina scans? It'd be hard for a robber to rip your eyes out.

If you open Moscow Yellow Pages, you would be surprised how many foreign companies have their offices in Moscow...

Although the international financial crisis has caused the collapse which has never occurred since the Great Depression, the Russian Federation is still considered as a quiet harbor.

Amongst the transcontinental companies there are a considerable number of Japanese corporations such as Toshiba, Mitsubishi, Fujitsu, NEC, Sanyo, etc.

Though the latter are thought to be well-known for their successful in retailing of high-quality products worldwide, there have been cases which must be interesting to investigating institutions.

We are going to take Mr. Vadim Danilov’s employee fraud case including asset misappropriation, money laundering, and kickback scheme.

The story goes Mr. Vadim Danilov was hired by Mr. Harry Fujimaki to work for Toshiba Corporation (Kabushiki-gaisha Toshiba) as a general logistics manager in Russia.

The event occurred in 2004.

In the course of two years Mr. Danilov had been “employed” in other areas such as, a certification specialist, customs broker, trader, promoter, etc. Mr. Danilov worked effectively and honestly thinking that he was a team player contributing to Toshiba’s profits.

Moreover, Mr. Koichiro Natsume, an executive manager of Toshiba Corporation in the CIS, declared him a Toshiba Official Trader at the Conference at the Imperial Park Hotel, Moscow, 2006.

In addition, Mr. Natsume declared that Mr. Vadim Danilov was officially registered by Toshiba Corporation as Toshiba's Official Trader named “the Ninth Wave” in the UK.

To conclude the announced procedures, Mr. Natsume issued to Danilov’s Ninth Wave an invoice which was paid to a TCMS official account at Sumitomo Mitsui Banking Corporation, Singapore Branch.

Furthermore, there were other financial transactions during 2006-2007-2008 years, executed by Mr. Vadim Danilov between clients and Toshiba Consumer Marketing Singapore, SMBC Singapore branch account.

After all the payments were completed, Mr. Natsume vanished somewhere in Japan. Toshiba Corporation managers in Russia, Japan and Singapore refused to explain to Mr. Vadim Danilov how those payments had been used.

Toshiba Corporation & TCMS, Mitsubishi and MCLogi, insist nowadays that Mr. Vadim Danilov has no evidences and the corporations declare now that Mr. Vadim Danilov had never had any relations with Toshiba Group Companies or Mitsubishi's MCLogi stuff.

Moreover: the Toshiba and Mitsubishi MCLogi staff has been running away from Mr. Danilov for 35 months (!).
The Metropolitan Police Department of Tokyo also refused to investigate the accident and explained to Mr. Danilov that he had no right to bring in an action against a Japanese citizen.
It would be better for the Metropolitan Police Department of Tokyo to check diligently backgrounds of Toshiba's and Mitsubishi's Conformity Certification procedures manipulations in Russian Federation. As well as Customs Clearance documents with false Japanese stamps and signatures of imaginary "Japanese Customs" or "Thailand Customs"...

It seems to be a confrontation between David and Goliath but David had had no backup…

awesome they need that here

Your a clown Danny, Very Funny?

Looks like Westernbank of Puerto Rico became first to do this!