true true, i'm in KL malaysia. Although you can see the meter running, you cant make it out that its using how many meter per unit.
can reduce a price from 30 to 25 if you do it nicely. can be fun though
it never hurts to ask for a discount...also offer to pay in cash. This sometimes helps to sweeten the deal. I always ask for discounts if I am buying a whole series of a manga or several figures at a time. Business is not always brisk for a lot of these places and I am sure they dont want to lose a 1-200 dollar sale. Plus they are in the business of moving merchandise. not letting it sit on shelves.
That said, when I go overseas, sometimes it bothers me to see other tourists haggling some old lady over 50 cents for some nicnac.
I just got back from a toy shopping trip to Japan (along with some cultural stuff!) and decided to try and see if I could get a better price on some higher priced items at a few vintage toy shops. On a both a 35,000 and 25,000 yen item, the seller came down 5,000 yen. At the place with the 25,000 yen toy, he also came down 3,000 yen on a 15,000 yen item. Seemed fairly painless and I saved a nice bit of cash!
aaaah, taxes. I got you all beat.
In denmark there's a tax of 25% on everything you buy, except cars. Tax on cars is, believe it or not, about 180% if I remember correctly.
It's about 20% in Italy. Really too much.
Forgot about bargaining. Bargaining is not really common in most stores here. The exceptions are for cars and motorcycles, houses and apartments, and contractor services (e.g., having a new floor installed your house). Stores that sell used items will bargain. Also furniture stores will often bargain with you. Any chain store (e.g., Best Buy, Target, WalMart, etc) will typically not bargain unless the item is the floor model or "open box" item. They will give you a discount of 10-20% if you ask a manager, but often the employees of these big stores just don't care.
I live in California. There is a sales tax here of almost 10% on almost all purchases of goods. Food purchased at a supermarket is exempt, but snack foods, alcohol, and soft drinks are charged the tax. There is also a beverage container tax of $0.05 per can or bottle, but you can get that back if you take the empty cans/bottles to a recycling center. Services such as having your clothes laundered or your car washed are not charged the tax.
Some countries have high VAT taxes on goods (e.g., 15-20% in Europe), but supposedly they have lower personal income taxes. United States supposedly has a low income tax, but many states (e.g., California, New York) have their own income tax of 10% and high sales tax 10% as well. Then there are high property taxes (1-2% of the value of your home every year).
When visiting Japan and buying things to take home with you, you can sometimes avoid the consumption tax 消費税 by bringing your passport with you to the store. There is a form that the store will fill out for you. This is good if you buy something expensive like a camera or computer or maybe just a lot of figures.
Gosh I'm from that Penang Malaysia you're talking about!!
But as Penangites we do have our own transport around so we don't go around flagging a cab, so, no I'm not sure if they still practice that in Penang.
However I can tell you in KL or else where it is still the same, you get ripped off if you're foreigners!
Bargaining in Texas is common even in retail stores . Tax here is about 10% . In Texas the seller will make the bargain most of the time.
Bargaining is really common where I come from (and not where I currently live). In fact, I was able to bargain (sort of) for my figures. I got some of them cheaper than the others. Whoo! ^o^
Most of the time, haggling doesn't fly, especially if you're in a store owned by a large chain. But if you're in a Mom and Pop shop, or if you're willing to buy a slightly damaged, returned item, you can sometimes bring them down a bit. Also, buying the floor models sometimes gets you a discount too, but that's more the luck of circumstance than anything else.
The one time you can haggle even in a chain store is with furniture--usually, they mark it up so much that they can afford to bring the price down quite a bit. Sometimes they'll mark it up as much as 200%!
If you're at a craft fair or a convention, though, it's a whole different game. You're not coming to them so much as they're coming to you, and they know it. The best thing to do in those places is to scout for stuff you like the first day, then come back on the last day and do your haggling. They want to ditch their stuff before they go home, so they're way more likely to haggle with you. A friend of mine got something like $300 off a flute that way once.
Man i really hate bargaining I am sincerely sorry but i do. Thank god as long as I have a PX to go to I will go there its way cheaper than anywhere I have been to shop.
You don't get by living around here without knowing how to bargain. I think it's a norm here.
I haggle everywhere... Well, not quite... Only in places where it's apporpriate... For example, if I'm in a supermarket... I don't.
If I'm buying an expensive appliance, I do.
If I'm in a shop like a comic shop or figure shop or 2nd hand shop, I will. :)
I used to be embarrased when my dad did it... But it's actually kinda fun.
Can't blame a guy for trying :D
A few years ago was more common, but now nobody bargains, but all depens of the shop, and the person... Myself bargains a few on second- hand games shops sometimes XD
uk,no talking in the big supermarket
all go thought the barcode scan and cashmachine will be what you got,not sure about smaller shop
Haggling would piss me off. I'm there to buy something, not to socialize or engage in brinksmanship. Having to haggle necessarily means that that vendor is a schmuck who doesn't respect his customers and tries to rip every single one of them off if he can. In such an environment, one must be not only a cynic, but force one's self to deal with the aforementioned schmuck to get anything done. Who'd want to deal with that on a regular basis?
Actually in Osaka bargaining is considered normal even tough not everyone do it. Even in biggest show chains is possible to get a 10-15% rebate even on already discounted items! Just try!!
I love Tokyo but Osaka is definitely cheaper for otaku shopping!
There are certain places where it's ok to bargain. There are places where it's really out of place. Usually, privately run/owned shops are the most bargain friendly. Large chain stores..well, thats pretty obvious. Good thing about Taiwan is about 80% of stores are pretty much private =)
It's impossible to survive in Singapore without haggling... or so it was a few years back. Nowadays it's impossible to haggle at a mall, eh?
LOL everyone thought it was just an April fool's joke...
Singapore government doesn't like joking around though...
Haggling or bargaining here is a custom but you can only haggle at small shops which we call a "tiangge" ^^
The "bargain central" or what we call Divisoria here is the place if you want to buy something cheap and could still haggle for the price or the quantity. ^____^
It's starting to happen here in the US. Apparently, you can ask for discounts for slightly dinged or floor model items, or items that are overstocked. There have been some news reports on it lately.
16% of vat here in Spain.
Yeah, honestly I don't know why they don't just list the price with tax included.
I have never seen or heard anyone bargain before. I sometimes get freebies though, just because I'm foreign.
I'm born and bred in Penang, Malaysia :) Bargaining is part of our everyday culture although you can't bargain at malls with fixed pricing.
Getting a good price in Penang sometimes doesn't require much bargaining. Some sellers really offer dirt cheap prices if you know where to find them.
I was hearing rumors like...some seller in singapore sell refurbish stuff for a cheap price???????
Bargaining is almost never done here aside from very informal occasions.
one of the first things my mom taught me was how to haggle xD
If its 1,000 yen or less and I like it, i'll usually grab it immediately otherwise i'll start regretting it when i leave Japan.
Wait is it bargain or haggle?
I also disagree... it depends on which store or venue your at. I even bargain on figurines locally.
Yeah, VAT is 17.5% in the UK. Haggling is quite common near where I live since there are a lot of markets.
come visit my country
you can bargain for 30-50% of the displayed price... hahaha
public transportation have a fixed price. You can't bargain. Supermaket have fixed price also.
But if you go to shopping mall, you may bargain. For elctric shop, you may bargain from 20-30%, for clothes you may bargain from 40-50%.
Many people in my country love to bargain. That's why when I came to Singapore and doing bargain, they will angry. Maybe we can't bargain in Singapore. CMIIW.
Like many Malaysians have already pointed out, bargaining is a very common thing around. Personally, I don't usually bargain. Mendokusai nan dakara.
As for taxis, they all have meters. Have heard stories that some of them meters "don't work well" and the price turns out to be, like Danny mentioned, "two pints of blood", but am not sure if those stories are true or not. All the taxis I have taken so far have been charging normal and acceptable fares.
But as some of you have said, it's not unusual to agree on a price for the trip instead of using the meter. And with the recent petrol price hike, visitors to Malaysia now will see this happening more often.
Ah- Sorry for rambling. ^^;
You're wrong~ XD
quackie has pretty much explained everything..
I'm... not... Malaysian..? *runs away into the sunset sobbing*
LOL. That's quite true.
Back in PH, my dad is a pro at haggling prices down to half (and sometimes even more) from their original price.
Everything here in GA (for the most part) is bought at face value. You may be able to bargain with independent shops, but never any cooperations.
The sales tax here in Atlanta GA is 7%.
in France tax is almost 20%, so do not forget the duty free at the airport(I've seen a special system of tax refund for the japanese people at the CDG airport). U can bargain in France specially in the flee market of Paris but it's very rare now, and by the past it was a national sport. Maybe I was lucky but I've already bargain in Tokyo and it work. It was for my Xacti 1000 at the Labi of Ikebukuro, and I low down the Price of more than 10000 yen (pay 66000, regular price was 78000 +carry Bag and tripod) :)
Over people basically bargain everyday. I have costumers like that all day, every day.
It's a bit less frequent on mega stores, like Pennys or Sears, but people here usually say something along the lines of "and that's the price? no discount, nothing you can do at all??"
I usually apply discounts daily, not on a percentage basis, but more like 1 or 2 bucks, depending on the merchandise, a rough estimate. It's so much a big part of the people here, they usually are gratefull if you discounted a buck or 2.
Here in the philippines, traditional here is discount when buying veggies,fruits,clothes,etc in the street market and "Ukay-Ukay"(UK-in the
lowest word) but not all markets agree with these discount things. Especially some foreign people learned to discount
in the market in "Divisoria" and "Greenhills" but all items are hand made to a person who created and somes are "Made in china"..
Its impossible to bargain here because we always have to pay the 20% tax over everything and no one can avoid it and if you do the government will get your things then sell them in an auction. The only place I remember bargaining was in New York City which was pretty cool buying a $500 watch and only paying $250 for it at a watch dealer in Wall Street ^_^
Bargaining isn't really an option that most people have. However, when you are buying a car you can haggle. It's pretty much a given that you never pay the sticker price for a vehicle. Also, if the place you are buying pays employees by commission you can haggle. Though this is to a lesser extent.
Here in India, everything can be bargained for. Food, clothes, utensils, furniture, you name it. Shopkeepers actually will find it odd if someone doesn't bargain. Only the newly opened malls dont allow bargaining on their stuff. :(
In Estonia it sometimes happens - when you are buying something expensive and you are willing to pay in cash, then you can get a discount from some shops. Onetime my friend was buying a new laptop, and he got about 1000 off from 12900(EEK) or smth.
yeah.. depends if the state has an income tax.. Texas doesn't so it has a high sales tax.. and probably property tax to make up the moneys..
usually betwwen 5 and 10 percent.. usuall none on internet orders, but there tryin to change that.. :(