Hillary and Ero

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Mon 2008/01/14 08:10
If you vote Hillary then you may have a tough time getting hold of imported ero stuff because she promises to get rid of violence and sex in video games which could lead to cracking down on anime fan service and cast off figures?
"When I am President, I will work to protect children from inappropriate video game content" > via Wired.
Thanks to member DRAGUN for sending this in.
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Posted on Mon 2008/01/14 08:10 by
Danny Choo in Tokyo (Registered on Mon 2006/12/11 11:54)
Director/代表取締役
lin-da-kenobi in Long Beach (登録日: 2007/08/16 03:44)
not sure yet...
what?!?! i didn't know that! that sucks
(ID #20916) Posted on 2008/01/14 23:13
DRAGUN in Arizona, USA (登録日: 2007/08/23 05:32)
Design Consultant
Yes, yes it does. Good reason to vote for someone else.
(ID #20928) Posted on 2008/01/14 23:31
julieho in London/US (登録日: 2007/12/14 02:16)
Definitely not eroge, but hey, at least you can see our friend Hillary in a thong at http://www.thongandbong.com/thong-model
(ID #20985) Posted on 2008/01/15 02:38
D_Blade in Montreal (登録日: 2006/12/31 23:36)
Non-profit org. volunteering work addict
Jack Thompson (Everyone knows who he is, right?) will vote for her, it's certain.
I don't know, I don't care about politics anymore (Lost faith in it) and threats never much helped in changing a population's life conditions, so if it's talking about the long run.

So, um... Democrats, Republicans... *Shrugs and snoozes*
(ID #20918) Posted on 2008/01/14 23:20
DRAGUN in Arizona, USA (登録日: 2007/08/23 05:32)
Design Consultant
Canadians get to vote in Americas elections?!?? I didnt know that. lol. 
(ID #20927) Posted on 2008/01/14 23:30
qingy in front of the monitor (登録日: 2007/10/06 05:57)
Gunpla Enthusiast
we wish, then bush wouldn't have won the last election
(ID #20929) Posted on 2008/01/14 23:32
wormgear in Chicago (登録日: 2008/02/22 09:02)
Software Quality Engineer
Yes he would have! We Americans didn't vote for him either! :-Z
(ID #196589) Posted on 2008/05/25 18:06
D_Blade in Montreal (登録日: 2006/12/31 23:36)
Non-profit org. volunteering work addict
No, no, DRAGUN, I was simply stating what Americans have to go through every four years for the presidential elections, but also the fact that politics are quite the same everywhere... all about crazy promises. ^^
(ID #20935) Posted on 2008/01/14 23:36
DRAGUN in Arizona, USA (登録日: 2007/08/23 05:32)
Design Consultant
@D_Blade, "crazy promises"?... we just call them "lies" here. Im seriously wishing Ron Paul would win the Republican Nomination.. but it probably wont happen. Things wont change, people are just too much like sheep to notice what is going on. I agree though, Im soooo tired of the B.S. with politics.
(ID #20937) Posted on 2008/01/14 23:42
D_Blade in Montreal (登録日: 2006/12/31 23:36)
Non-profit org. volunteering work addict
I'm so much on political correctness... But lies indeed, which explain why I gave up on trusting governments (Still I'm not an outlaw at all ^^).
(ID #20940) Posted on 2008/01/14 23:48
Jonny Boy in California (登録日: 2007/10/10 13:27)
Student, Photographer, Paintballer,
Dudes I don't like messing with politics either. like he said, I've always called them lies as well. Can you imagine what a female president would be like? When we're at war? When she's on her *&$^%*? Don't make her mad, PMS is gonna kick in..
(ID #21219) Posted on 2008/01/16 05:02
DRAGUN in Arizona, USA (登録日: 2007/08/23 05:32)
Design Consultant
Honestly, I would be more afraid of a woman on her period than a guy. She would do something irrational and crazy and we would all suffer for it. 
(ID #21237) Posted on 2008/01/16 05:58
qingy in front of the monitor (登録日: 2007/10/06 05:57)
Gunpla Enthusiast
Hillary Clinton is a guy right?
(ID #21239) Posted on 2008/01/16 06:04
DRAGUN in Arizona, USA (登録日: 2007/08/23 05:32)
Design Consultant
Well, as close as most women will ever get. I have to give her credit for being a strong woman in a mans game.
(ID #21251) Posted on 2008/01/16 07:17
D_Blade in Montreal (登録日: 2006/12/31 23:36)
Non-profit org. volunteering work addict
Jonny Boy and DRAGUN, I somehow feel it would be more about menopause than periods here... Given the required range of age for "political experience and maturity".
However it's always nice to see candidates who don't have grey hair... yet.
Just my two cents.
(ID #21361) Posted on 2008/01/16 14:58
laughingman in Canada (登録日: 2007/11/18 12:46)
McMaster Engineering Student Fall 08
http://www.kongregate.com/games/thup/campaign-game

If you wanna give Hillary a smackin', take her out on this cool flash game :p Played it myself, and I played as Obama :D
(ID #21387) Posted on 2008/01/16 17:59
ケヴィン in Sacramento California, USA (登録日: 2007/11/13 15:52)
High School student
yet again she looses more votes... go obama for democrats :)
(ID #20921) Posted on 2008/01/14 23:24
lin-da-kenobi in Long Beach (登録日: 2007/08/16 03:44)
not sure yet...
i guess
(ID #20925) Posted on 2008/01/14 23:29
NPC in Rocklin, CA (登録日: 2007/12/06 16:19)
JR. College Student
Yay, a semi-local for Obama! ^_^
(ID #21006) Posted on 2008/01/15 04:23
bvc100 in KL Malaysia (登録日: 2007/10/15 01:42)
Something to do with cars
Ahha... now this is the tricky part. If she does get into power (IF), she has to overcome the problem that comes from within her place first. Then only will it be acceptable to attack otaku stuffs...
Just wondering, do the politicians know of the otaku culture?
(ID #20922) Posted on 2008/01/14 23:27
Nello in Belgium (登録日: 2007/11/01 00:10)
Student
Obama FTW
(ID #20924) Posted on 2008/01/14 23:29
qingy in front of the monitor (登録日: 2007/10/06 05:57)
Gunpla Enthusiast
sad to say, but us otakus in Canada will probably be affected if she does come into power.
(ID #20926) Posted on 2008/01/14 23:30
DRAGUN in Arizona, USA (登録日: 2007/08/23 05:32)
Design Consultant
Im sure there will be some overflow if she does. I was pissed when I read all of this. Maybe parents should pay attention to their kids and keep them away from certain things. Instead of making all of us suffer.
(ID #20930) Posted on 2008/01/14 23:33
D_Blade in Montreal (登録日: 2006/12/31 23:36)
Non-profit org. volunteering work addict
Like a wise one once said...
"Fight the power!" ^^
(ID #20939) Posted on 2008/01/14 23:46
NGEunit01 in Cali (登録日: 2007/05/14 10:25)
College Student
Agreed!
(ID #20943) Posted on 2008/01/14 23:53
Koji98 in Arlington, Texas (登録日: 2007/11/04 13:19)
Your local Otaku Cashier.
Oh don't worry, there's more than enough people out here that hate her guts. I'm betting she won't get far, especially from her way of running for presidency.
(ID #20944) Posted on 2008/01/14 23:57
D_Blade in Montreal (登録日: 2006/12/31 23:36)
Non-profit org. volunteering work addict
koji98, I feel she did great when it was her husband who was president (She whacked him good at every opportunity, right?). 
Here she completely lacks a minimal sense of tact when it is about expressing herself.
Guess she's better as a mastermind.
So sad, so sad.
(ID #20947) Posted on 2008/01/15 00:09
Setsuna-san in Selangor, Malaysia (登録日: 2007/07/06 10:55)
VF-25 Pilot. Universariate Scholar.
Fight the Power !!!
Be the change!!! vote for Obama!!!
(ID #20962) Posted on 2008/01/15 00:51
Koji98 in Arlington, Texas (登録日: 2007/11/04 13:19)
Your local Otaku Cashier.
I'm not talking about during Mr. Clinton's time as president, I'm talking about right now.
(ID #21002) Posted on 2008/01/15 03:57
D_Blade in Montreal (登録日: 2006/12/31 23:36)
Non-profit org. volunteering work addict
@koji98: Don't worry, we are on the same chapter. She just doesn't seem to be fitting as a candidate.
(ID #21012) Posted on 2008/01/15 04:50
baobao in Canada (登録日: 2007/11/07 05:05)
Student
no, no, NO that can't be.... she can GO TO HELL!!!!!!!!!!!! keep her away~~~~~~~~~~~ *spins around in circles*
(ID #23310) Posted on 2008/01/25 02:12
mbern45 in Toronto (登録日: 2007/08/23 07:45)
Politicians should all be in Hollywood.  Have you ever seen anyone lie so convincingly?  I mean, they're able to fool millions of people into voting for them, that takes skill.
(ID #20941) Posted on 2008/01/14 23:50
D_Blade in Montreal (登録日: 2006/12/31 23:36)
Non-profit org. volunteering work addict
But don't forget one did the inverse travel. 
I wonder if "Governator" does a good job. It's not that I really care, but since taxes come from lambda people... You see my point? :)
(ID #20945) Posted on 2008/01/15 00:02
Dedale in S'pore after France (登録日: 2007/12/04 18:16)
Labyrinth builder
You will see: one day the "Demolition Man" prophecy will happen !

Reminder: in this 1993 movie where the scene takes place in a near futur, Sandra Bullock explains to Sylvester Stalone that A. Scharwzennegger was so popular that they changed the constitution to allow him to be president (he could notpreviously  because he wasn't born in the US). Since then, he is the best president in the US history !
(ID #21005) Posted on 2008/01/15 04:12
D_Blade in Montreal (登録日: 2006/12/31 23:36)
Non-profit org. volunteering work addict
Heh, only time will tell.
(ID #21100) Posted on 2008/01/15 15:15
D_Blade in Montreal (登録日: 2006/12/31 23:36)
Non-profit org. volunteering work addict
By the way, this photo reeks of:
I'm so 1337, I just Pwned J00 so bad, n00b! WOOT!
(Please excuse my relative inexperience  in netslang and I hope you got most of my initial thoughts ^^)
(ID #20946) Posted on 2008/01/15 00:05
radical anime fan in Singapore; starting to freeze up. Mmm, end-of-year weather. (登録日: 2007/01/25 22:08)
Polytechnic Freshman. Mmm... fresh.
Is it just me or does looking at her face make you want to pick up a Spartan Laser and blast three holes in her face; one for her mouth and two for her eyes. I dunno, I just see her amd feel an extreme hatred for politicians like her.

http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/Spartan_laser

And that's why i choose the laser.

http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/Image:No_more_wraith.jpg

Ban inappropriate video games and stuff? For the love of God, it's the parents who buy 'em for their children in the first place. So many young sore losers on Halo 2/3 XBL... And inappropriate videos? Obviously she'd never acccessed Yahoo/Google with Safesearch off. 

No offense intended to anyone out there. Except her.
(ID #20971) Posted on 2008/01/15 01:11
necrophadian in Palookaville, USA (登録日: 2007/04/22 13:01)
Procrastinator Extraordinaire
i bet they're making memes of this pic  in all the chans out there right now. She looks like shes "charging her lazer"
(ID #20991) Posted on 2008/01/15 03:02
Cosmo in Chicago, Illinois USA (登録日: 2007/01/11 07:42)
Retail Manager
She didn't say she was going to ban the video games, she said she would pass legislation that would make it harder for kids to get. So don't get your panties in a bunch boys, you can still get your freak on to your favorite 2D character.
(ID #20948) Posted on 2008/01/15 00:25
PcFish (登録日: 2007/11/11 14:04)
I believe she just cares about America. So all these figures and ero made in Japan won't be affected. Unless she starts complaining about that stuff too...
I can't believe she's doing this.
It's the parent's fault for letting their kids have those kind of games..
(ID #20949) Posted on 2008/01/15 00:26
mbern45 in Toronto (登録日: 2007/08/23 07:45)
I totally agree.
Parents don't want to spend time teaching their kids or watching them so they expect the companies to only put out products that meet their image.
Unfortunately we're the ones that suffer because it means we can't always have the products we want.
I can still buy anything since I'm over 18, but the companies might think twice in the future about making certain products because of irresponsible parents.
Let's hope anime figures never become mainstream, otherwise you know someone would complain and try to ban those too.
(ID #20956) Posted on 2008/01/15 00:40
gordon in 新加坡 Singapore (登録日: 2007/06/11 15:45)
TK-8316 / 宅男 Otaku / 工程师 Engineer
well that aren't going to stop us. there's always the interent. internet is free. unless she owns the interent. ('~')
(ID #20950) Posted on 2008/01/15 00:30
Hangmen13 in Sabah, Malaysia (登録日: 2007/04/21 22:07)
Aimless Traveler
gordon in 新加坡 Singapore (登録日: 2007/06/11 15:45)
TK-8316 / 宅男 Otaku / 工程师 Engineer
i have a question, how old must one be in order to vote in the presidential election?

since the getting rid of violence and sex in video games will mainly affect children and teenagers who are not old enough to vote.
(ID #20953) Posted on 2008/01/15 00:37
Setsuna-san in Selangor, Malaysia (登録日: 2007/07/06 10:55)
VF-25 Pilot. Universariate Scholar.
i thought America was the land of capitalism where money can buy you anything.
guess i was wrong.=_="
(ID #20960) Posted on 2008/01/15 00:47
AbVag in California, USA (登録日: 2007/09/04 12:25)
Mind Navigator
That would depend on who's money it is and what they're buying. But I'm being too cryptic.
(ID #20990) Posted on 2008/01/15 03:02
The White Testament in Mexico!!!!!!111oneone (登録日: 2007/11/17 10:56)
Student, Writer and Graphic/Web Designer
She's an Ignorant, that's all that I can say. If she get's elected, I'll start to study japanese a lot more. Well, because, I won't be getting any good games in english
(ID #20965) Posted on 2008/01/15 00:54
saint_demon in In Front of My Desktop (登録日: 2007/12/02 16:18)
Anime and Manga Downloader
do you think she will do what her promised at her campaign??
(ID #20968) Posted on 2008/01/15 01:01
radical anime fan in Singapore; starting to freeze up. Mmm, end-of-year weather. (登録日: 2007/01/25 22:08)
Polytechnic Freshman. Mmm... fresh.
1% of 100% she'd live up to her promises. Politics are not known for being very truthful. And besides, if the law does get to ero stuff, she's limited in terms of power. I'm pretty sure the average, non-anime-fan kid out on the streets does't buy full cast-off and eroge with no plot other than the train perversion theme. If she'd spend more time researching on the nation aren't there more pressing issues?  

Again, no offence intended to anyone out there.
(ID #20973) Posted on 2008/01/15 01:18
skankywonders in California (登録日: 2007/08/09 06:24)
Student
Ha! One more reason not to vote for her. 

*Writes down on "What NOT to do" List.* 
(ID #20970) Posted on 2008/01/15 01:10
まっすぐGO! in Melbourne, Australia (登録日: 2007/11/19 19:34)
Sounds good to the naiive public, but KIDS AREN'T THE ONLY PEOPLE WHO PLAY VIDEO GAMES!
(ID #20975) Posted on 2008/01/15 01:24
AbVag in California, USA (登録日: 2007/09/04 12:25)
Mind Navigator
It's funny. The media and committees choose our candidates for us, we sell our souls to them in false belief of change, then complain with blame fingers to compensate for our lack of intellect.

Who has time to care about researching candidates when it's easier for others to vote for us.
(ID #20977) Posted on 2008/01/15 01:44
PoWeR in 2010 Winter Olympic City (登録日: 2007/08/28 06:00)
Student
!!!! Preposterous!!!! -_-
though she only mentioned "children"....
(ID #20981) Posted on 2008/01/15 02:13
Vic Fieger in Mass., USA (登録日: 2007/11/23 15:50)
Typographer
We can take comfort in two things:
1. There is no way in hell she can possibly win the election because a huge chunk of Americans believes she is a spy for the Chinese shadow government run by a reptiloid clone of Mao Zedong.
2. If she said she'd do it, it would never happen anyways.
(ID #20986) Posted on 2008/01/15 02:46
necrophadian in Palookaville, USA (登録日: 2007/04/22 13:01)
Procrastinator Extraordinaire
I like that first reason and I support it.
(ID #20992) Posted on 2008/01/15 03:04
Dirtybeast in St.louis, MO USA (登録日: 2007/02/10 16:01)
Baker
you know i have a hard time beliving she will even win the democratic nomination let alone having a chance to get elected president. Video Games Are an Easy target right now many parents don't understand video games and then they constantly see on the news that video games are the cause to all of america's youth problems. so it really is an easy card for her to play
(ID #20997) Posted on 2008/01/15 03:24
Barsona in California USA (登録日: 2007/08/03 09:24)
NEET (no, student...)
she wouldn't succeed, so I wouldn't worry.  Government has no purpose getting involved in family issues, where the parent needs to be brave about confronting issues like these...
(ID #21000) Posted on 2008/01/15 03:37
XSportSeeker in Brazil (登録日: 2007/08/22 06:18)
Dropping computers, starting all over again at Journalism
Excuse me, but this doesn't really mean she will "ban ero stuff".
You don't have to ban ero stuff to protect children from it... you only need to enforce rating systems and promote them as an effective tool against violence and sexual content from children.

Also, I'm pretty shure all candidates are for this. Or are we to think Obama is for violence and sexual content for children? Don't think so.
(ID #21004) Posted on 2008/01/15 04:08
Vic Fieger in Mass., USA (登録日: 2007/11/23 15:50)
Typographer
This point is absolutely valid, but the  fact that candidates have to raise the issue at all is glossing over the root of the problem: piss-poor parenting.
Voters just don't want to have to accept responsibility for raising their kids. The one singular message that props up the campaign speeches of almost every politician, past and present, is "You may potentially vote for me, so nothing is ever YOUR fault."
That's what's wrong with this sort of grandstanding; not what they're saying, but what they refuse to say.
(ID #21007) Posted on 2008/01/15 04:24
D_Blade in Montreal (登録日: 2006/12/31 23:36)
Non-profit org. volunteering work addict
@Vic Fieger (to keep on with your reasoning): "It's only your fault as soon as I'm elected. It is natural I want to bring profound change, but opposition parties and the population are too stubborn to make any effort". 
Yeah, right. How many times has it happened? Most always. 
It's the same trap we repeatedly fall in, regardless of culture. -_-
(ID #21013) Posted on 2008/01/15 05:00
XSportSeeker in Brazil (登録日: 2007/08/22 06:18)
Dropping computers, starting all over again at Journalism
I completely agree with what you said Vic... the main problem with children watching and playing stuff they shouldn't is from poor parenting. Unfortunately, today's society isn't exactly easy on parenting also...

But still on topic, I don't think the sentence cited by Danny automatically translates into banning violent and ero games.

This might (or might not) be a misinterpretation (sp?).

I'd known for shure if she said something like "I support Jack Thompson and think violent games should be banned".

Protecting the children from it is something else... and I might be mistaken, but I think all candidates are for protecting the children from violent games. And so am I.

The real question is: how?

Yeah, they should step up and say this is mainly the parents fault. But no candidates said this so far, and I think none of them will... delicate issue.

The thing is, society as a whole must start using rating systems and say no to children when the content is not appropriate.

I mean, c'mon, we have other cultures that serves as examples. Japan is a prime example. So much ero stuff that can be confused with children stuff... and for those who watched some japanese movies... there's enough weirdness and violence there to fill stacks of hollywood movies. 
:P
It's a cultural thing.

Anyways, it's a polemic issue. I'd be glad if candidates say more about this... what actions they have in mind, if they have some concrete plans to direct the issue.

But I don't wanna make early judgements based on a sentence only.

But here I am yapping about an election from another country which I'll not even be part of. :P Old habits...
(ID #21014) Posted on 2008/01/15 05:02
D_Blade in Montreal (登録日: 2006/12/31 23:36)
Non-profit org. volunteering work addict
Well, XsportSeeker, the US are not exempt of faults in terms of confusing material not destined to kids...
Essentially cynic stuff from MTV (especially Happy Tree Friends), South Park, The Simpsons (in an extent), etc.
I hesitate to put toons in the same sack but hey. ^^

Anyway, I've always been thinking that if people are not competent to be parents or of the caring type, they really shouldn't be. How many times have I heard (even in my dear remote family of my father's side) "If I had to choose again, I wouldn't have kids, too bothersome".
The worse is to put too heavy expectations on infants without giving them needed affection or the right type of freedom and get delinquents in return.
And no, it's not about a naive vision of good or bad seeds, it's about education, influence and investment. To raise kids is a heavy, long-term task that I don't really want to try yet. ^^;
(ID #21016) Posted on 2008/01/15 05:35
lostandfound in a place where you'll never find... (登録日: 2007/10/22 02:58)
Part human, part student, 100% loser
LOL I thing the people in the background are laughing at her for making such a "cute" face... And when I say cute, I mean cute- ugly...
(ID #21025) Posted on 2008/01/15 07:18
D_Blade in Montreal (登録日: 2006/12/31 23:36)
Non-profit org. volunteering work addict
More like evil-freaky-ugly on my charts.
(ID #21101) Posted on 2008/01/15 15:19
lostandfound in a place where you'll never find... (登録日: 2007/10/22 02:58)
Part human, part student, 100% loser
You forgot to add butt before the word ugly LOL!
(ID #21109) Posted on 2008/01/15 15:54
Gundam Otaku in Tropical Singapore (登録日: 2006/12/30 23:04)
Student
Ah..Like I said before. Humans are flexible creatures. We always think of solution when circumstances comes up. This applies to getting imported ero stuff as well. Well you can never stop one from doing things that he or she likes.
(ID #21029) Posted on 2008/01/15 07:40
Kururu_luva in Richmond, BC Canada (登録日: 2007/01/20 17:53)
 Oh, so thats where the eye mouth pic came from LoL. Looks like a crazy bitch :)
(ID #21031) Posted on 2008/01/15 07:47
gregory_gdp in Boise, ID (登録日: 2007/07/16 22:44)
Photographer/Night Auditor
One of many reasons why I'd never vote for that crazy woman.  No more Clintons period I say.  
(ID #21036) Posted on 2008/01/15 08:18
MACdaddy in Earth (登録日: 2007/11/10 11:02)
Stalker
She has been backing Jack Thompson and the Womens-FamilyAOA forever, where do you think they get their funding from. It's how politicians get a "track record." They don't actually do anything, but they fund people who do things that go along with their ideas, then when an issue comes up they can say "we have been fighting this issue for a long time."

She is evil folks. More then the others I don't know, but she's definitely e-v-i-l.
(ID #21040) Posted on 2008/01/15 08:37
CyruzDraxs in Kelowna, BC, Canada (登録日: 2007/09/11 10:31)
Web Design & Development
Hilary makes an excellent hand puppet for Jack Thompson.
(ID #21049) Posted on 2008/01/15 09:08
laughingman in Canada (登録日: 2007/11/18 12:46)
McMaster Engineering Student Fall 08
If worse comes to worse, just come up north. It would seem anything is legal here (piracy is grey, gay marriage is legal, experimentation on fetuses etc etc.). I'm surprised Canada hasn't fallen in an uproar. 
(ID #21062) Posted on 2008/01/15 11:34
qingy in front of the monitor (登録日: 2007/10/06 05:57)
Gunpla Enthusiast
O Canada! Our home and native land!
(ID #21072) Posted on 2008/01/15 12:12
D_Blade in Montreal (登録日: 2006/12/31 23:36)
Non-profit org. volunteering work addict
What decadence! LOL.
No really, I don't regret coming here at all. But... experiments on fetuses?!
No, it cannot be! Ahhhhhhhhhh~!!
(ID #21102) Posted on 2008/01/15 15:22
laughingman in Canada (登録日: 2007/11/18 12:46)
McMaster Engineering Student Fall 08
welcome to canada, b*tches! :D
(ID #21386) Posted on 2008/01/16 17:56
bolt in Tampa Fl. (登録日: 2007/04/17 15:41)
security/3d graphic artist
yet another reason to ditch the bit$%..

government needs to keep its greedy paws of of things the gov doesn't need to.. like.. o say...EVERYTHING THEY DO NOW!!!!!!

crack down on pedifiles.. and get off my back!
(ID #21079) Posted on 2008/01/15 12:33
Fabian in Karlsland (登録日: 2008/01/09 01:12)
student
New forms of media will probably always be a popular scapegoat. This problem isn't exactly new. A few decades ago gore films were blamed for ruining young people, a hundred years ago motion pictures in general were blamed for the same reasons and in the 18th century many thought novels had an harmful influence.

This is part of the generation gap and of course there will always be politicians trying to look like the saviour of the youth to get more votes.

Interestingly, no one seems to care about the violence you can find in old media like the bible or the torture scene you can find at the end of the poem of Odysseus.
(ID #21093) Posted on 2008/01/15 14:48
Sakari in Tokyo (登録日: 2007/06/20 02:12)
Student
Wow, she should not have said that. Say goodbye to gamer votes.
(ID #21131) Posted on 2008/01/15 18:15
lowlife187 in Atlanta, Georgia USA (登録日: 2007/09/29 05:18)
Contraband Distrabution Specialist
Witch best not touch my porn...I mean Japanese artwork collection :D

I hate this woman.  I hate all politicians.  Why can't we just kill them all?  I think the world would be so much better without them.  
(ID #21139) Posted on 2008/01/15 20:14
qingy in front of the monitor (登録日: 2007/10/06 05:57)
Gunpla Enthusiast
the FBI is enroute to your house as we speak...lol
(ID #21170) Posted on 2008/01/15 23:36