Sat 2008/10/25 01:57
The latest episode of Rosario and Vampire was quite unwatchable. Disliked that bat from the first series and thought that it was going to be killed off but now its back in full force with a pedo bear. As I mentioned before after speaking to some folks in the anime industry, they don't really make money from airing the series on TV or streaming it on the net - the bulk of money is made from DVD sales and then licensing. I'm getting the feeling that they are purposely censoring TV time so that folks will go and buy the DVDs. But in Rosario's case, it looks like they are completely over doing it. The animation quality has also taken a huuuge nosedive into a vat of steaming cack too. More censored pics at Sankaku Complex. Do you hunt for the uncensored DVD version when its out (Sekirei, Strike Witches, Kanokon etc) ? Still love the OP though (which was previously the ED).
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Mechanical Engineering student
They gotta make money somehow, right? I guess I understand them a little. But that's way too much censorship. They should do something about that or else people will stop watching their anime. It's not really a good view to watch a scene with bats stuck on someone's privates, noh?
(ID #345370) Posted on 2008/10/25 02:15
Yeah im with you on this. They have to make money somehow, and with all the hype about streaming and watching on TV, the need to buy it isnt as high. With this maybe the industry will earn some money and prosper? Besides as a viewer, you have to just wait until the dvd is out and then dl that lol
(ID #345543) Posted on 2008/10/25 05:22
Amateur novelist
I haven't seen much of Rosario yet, but I think we all hate the censoring that goes into TV broadcasts, especially when it isn't needed. Thankfully it doesn't seem to be too bad in Japan (they only seem to censor the stuff that REALLY shouldn't be on TV), but it looks like they've been going overboard in this current season of Rosario + Vampire. It's a rather blatant marketing ploy.
(ID #345372) Posted on 2008/10/25 02:15
Most of the time i can stand the censorship since it doesn't affect my viewing that much. There is however case in which the series loses half it's appeal for me if uncensored, i'm talking about Sayonara Zetsubou Sensei. And cases in which the series is rendered useless, like Kodomo no Jikan, this last censoring not only the entire image but also the dialogue.
(ID #345378) Posted on 2008/10/25 02:21
part time illustrationist, doll clothing seamstress
I'm probably one of the few who's kinda amused by the bats ^^;
(ID #345379) Posted on 2008/10/25 02:21
why not just put a damn bat all over the screen instead? ~_~ And yeah,if its an ecchi anime like rosario,then i'll just say very late time (when kids should sleep!) - and less censoring. Sure,i can understand censoring like they had on kanokon since it didnt bother me a bit,but rosario is going overboard. >_<
(ID #345384) Posted on 2008/10/25 02:27
Student/Prospective Anime Maker
As I posted in the other thread, this cycle of Force-Promoting the DVDs should be nipped in the bud before it gets out of hand.
(ID #345386) Posted on 2008/10/25 02:31
Web monkey, coffee addicted cerberus, Chef Vader
Odd atmospheric fog phenomena and excessively blinding bright lights would have been more acceptable.
(ID #345391) Posted on 2008/10/25 02:37
Video Reviewer of Anime Figures, Mecha and Merch (youtube.com/user/Actar576295)
I can't believe I posted the exact same topic at roughly the same time as you danny... Sorry... But my views are written there.
(ID #345394) Posted on 2008/10/25 02:38
Student // Collector // Gaijin
Danggg...I'm glad I didn't get into this series in the first place. That kind of censoring is why I didn't watch either of the Negima anime...
(ID #345408) Posted on 2008/10/25 02:52
Video Reviewer of Anime Figures, Mecha and Merch (youtube.com/user/Actar576295)
Was there censorship in Negima? I didn't notice a thing.
(ID #345461) Posted on 2008/10/25 03:36
Procrastinator Extraordinaire
exactly which negima anime are we talking about here?
(ID #345546) Posted on 2008/10/25 05:24
Video Reviewer of Anime Figures, Mecha and Merch (youtube.com/user/Actar576295)
I doubt that there was any censorship in either the Negima! series or the Negima!? series. They were not that heavy on fanservice anyway.
(ID #345568) Posted on 2008/10/25 05:53
why air it on tv if you need to censor it and dont make money from it? just release the dvd's or blu-rays. people would buy it if the media were sold a lot cheaper than current exhorbitant prices they charge for the full boxset.
(ID #345412) Posted on 2008/10/25 02:54
easiest way to showcase it, i guess... or to showcase how much ecchi exhibitionism you have without giving up the goods XD
(ID #345438) Posted on 2008/10/25 03:17
Going to have to wait for the DVDs for Rosario Vampire. If the bats were small it would be ok, but they are huge and take up most of your view.
(ID #345413) Posted on 2008/10/25 02:54
DCX001-Prototype
Well, they're not doing charity, business is still business, & most only make profit from DVD & merchandise. Viewers who watch it free should at least understand & appreciate it. I agreed that Rosario+Vampire S2 is completely overdone & it's getting very annoying.....spoiled the fun.......
(ID #345428) Posted on 2008/10/25 03:09
Engineering Student
Welp, guess this one is going to be dropped from watching if this is how it's going to be. This just looks ridiculous, and those stupid bats take up 90% of the picture. Why bother even airing it if this is what they are going to do. Just do an OVA series instead.
(ID #345434) Posted on 2008/10/25 03:15
Full-time student へへ
yeah. i saw this on tv last night... twice! i was thinking of posting it. but you beat me to it. ^^. the bats and the bear were quite annoying.
(ID #345440) Posted on 2008/10/25 03:18
Part trooper, part -timer, 100% loser...
I won't be getting the DVD version... If you search enough, then maybe just maybe there's an uncensored version on the net...
(ID #345445) Posted on 2008/10/25 03:21
Sucks censorship!!!!!!!!!! They are just messing up everything F!!! for what im seeing i maybe dropping Rosario + Vampire -_-" the DVD's are spensive and to buy a DVD for just 2 ep -_-" sucks
(ID #345446) Posted on 2008/10/25 03:21
PD: i for got to mention you see worst Worst things in Porn dont know why The hell they do this -_-"
(ID #345451) Posted on 2008/10/25 03:24
University Student
The story's what all matters to me :3 For the dvd.. will buy if the bonus is awesome lol
(ID #345466) Posted on 2008/10/25 03:39
Engineering Student
If the story in Rosario+Vampire was better, this might now be a problem, but it isn't. The story is average, and over played, so the main reason to watch (for me at least) was for the fanservice. With that taken away, there is no point to watch.
(ID #345471) Posted on 2008/10/25 03:44
not only that but look at those big a$$ bats O_O is like a cow whit wings is covering almost everything -_-"
(ID #345540) Posted on 2008/10/25 05:20
"now its back in full force with a pedo bear" - LOL, I couldn't said it better myself:P
(ID #345470) Posted on 2008/10/25 03:42
Programmer Trainee
Damn I kinda feel bad about that then. It's not that I don't want to buy. It's just that I hate the dubbing/subbing that the companies do sometimes. Not to mention I can't find the DVD's here since well..piracy is an issue here and it's overpriced! It's a gray area I guess
(ID #345472) Posted on 2008/10/25 03:44
I have to admit that I'm not happy about this whole censorship stuff but as long as there are uncensored DVD versions I can live with that ^^.
(ID #345495) Posted on 2008/10/25 04:03
Student
DVD versions almost always come uncensored like Air Gear, Witchblade and others which I can't recall now :P
(ID #345510) Posted on 2008/10/25 04:38
Student
The opening of the new season is simply amazing, normally I skip all openings after watching it once but Rosario second season makes me watch and re-watch countless times ^^ . That's strange of them censoring even when there's underwear, which makes no sense, if it had nipples showing now that would be different like Air Gear
(ID #345509) Posted on 2008/10/25 04:36
I'll probably skip both seasons just because of the slaughtering of them with censorship. I like to watch something before I go out and buy it but if I can't even enjoy the previewing what's the point?
(ID #345525) Posted on 2008/10/25 05:02
What's with all the idol op/ed with the new series? not that I don't like them (in fact, they are very well animated, at least the ones I've seen) but I hope it doesn't become a trend, if there's one thing I don't like is idols.
(ID #345530) Posted on 2008/10/25 05:12
Pseudo-Graphic Designer, 太もも Appreciator
Uh... well Kannagi does have that kind of opening too... But at least they differentiate it with different scenes in the makeup room, etc. Which made me wonder what kind of show it was when I first saw the opening.
(ID #346001) Posted on 2008/10/25 15:07
Sand (Registered on 2007/05/11 12:34)
This anime is getting so boring. And the bats are not helping.
(ID #345538) Posted on 2008/10/25 05:19
Student, Otaku, She-Geek(Sheek lol)
So very glad I'm not watching. They'd bug me so much...
(ID #345544) Posted on 2008/10/25 05:23
If it's censored, I don't watch it. If I can't watch it, why should I bother buying the DVDs since they could be censored too? Besides, why support a company that promotes censorship? If they want to make more money, they should make higher quality anime that I WANT to buy, not HAVE to buy in order to view. This anime company can go pound sand as far as I'm concerned.
(ID #345555) Posted on 2008/10/25 05:37
Not watching...If I did I would get a bat swatter.
(ID #345570) Posted on 2008/10/25 05:57
soon-to-be 2nd year Civil Engineering student
The anime was poor to begin with, so nay nay. The manga was tons better anyway.
(ID #345592) Posted on 2008/10/25 06:22
The diehard fans will already be buying the DVDs, so the censoring despite the late timeslot seems to be a deliberate ploy to get more (less fanatical) fans to buy the DVDs. Like I said in Actar's news item, this may be a plan for them to get people to stop loving their DVR versions.
(ID #345598) Posted on 2008/10/25 06:34
Web Designer, Boxer, StreetFighter, Anime Collector and Gamer
Are we watching Rosario+Vampire Capu2 or Bats flapping? Well come on now! Steam and no nipples I can tolerate, but censoring the girls having clothes(pantsu and bras) on while other ecchi anime shows have almost naked girls all over the screen. Well the censoring is ridiculous and WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYY too much, they should limit it to a few bats and why do they need to add pedo bear when Yukari turned to a non loli in this episode. Truly this is one of the BEST episodes of R+V that is RUINED by BATS and Pedo bears. We need to call for a whole squadron of exterminators next episode or the re-run.
(ID #345600) Posted on 2008/10/25 06:36
Artist, Web Designer and Blogger
I hate the censoring, especially when it's a bat, a cloud or something like that. Black rectangles are at least serious. But still it's useful when you're watching anime while your parents are in the same room. It saves you from embarassing.
(ID #345627) Posted on 2008/10/25 07:14
JooNkeN (Registered on 2008/04/05 00:52)
I believe certain TV stations were airing the non-censored version for the first 2 episodes, but they now all air the censored version, from what I hear. Censorship itself, I don't mind. The way you do it, I do. In a bathtub/bath house with a fog, sure why not. These bats? clearly they got someone that's supposed to give fanservice and stickered on a "MUST PAY TO SEE" Bat on it. Which is damned annoying. At least make it more subtle. I loved Austin Powers censorship; they combined it so well and it was comical. They made the censorship on purpose and it was so smooth. Do something like that, which I have seen other animes do. This is just annoying.
(ID #345640) Posted on 2008/10/25 07:34
Dropping computers, starting all over again at Journalism
I didn't watch it yet, but I think it goes something like this: I also saw the pics on Sankaku Complex, and I think they overdid it. I understand censoring when it's to comply to age standards. But I disagree with the argument that "they have to make money somehow". First, because they are already making money. If it's on TV, they already got payed for it. And if they got payed for it, it's because they accepted a contract, which is fair and square. Second, because that argument has no limits. I mean, what's next? They'll just put a huge bat over 10 minutes of the show and say "if you want to see the rest, buy the DVD"? I don't like where the whole "censored version uncensored version" is going. Soon enough, we'll have anime with capped extra sex scenes that are DVD exclusive. I don't like the fact that some animation studios are going to lenghs of creating animes that has to have those censored scenes just to sell more DVDs. It's just becoming too artificial. Things like that can lower drastically the quality of plots and stories selected to make animes.
(ID #345645) Posted on 2008/10/25 07:44
Usually don't watch stuff like that anyway. Looks craptastic and is prolly aimed at perverted men.
(ID #345656) Posted on 2008/10/25 07:50
Oh but very good points. Although some studios are short on budget, abusing censorship is ludicrous.
(ID #345657) Posted on 2008/10/25 07:51
Studio Bleach founder/owner
I will buy any amount of DVDs for a series I like. Mixed about this one, though, so it is a maybe. Besides, if you want bad editing, go watch Saban's (long before they were bought by Disney)version of Dragon Ball Z. The edits were just bad.
(ID #345664) Posted on 2008/10/25 08:06
AdvDip Network Security - CCNA - Ironport - Security+
ITS LIKE KODOMO NO JIKAN ALL OVER AGAIN THOSE 'NO'S, THEY'RE LAUGHING AT ME AAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
(ID #345665) Posted on 2008/10/25 08:06
Web Designer, Boxer, StreetFighter, Anime Collector and Gamer
One reason why I didn't watch Kodomo Jinkan.
(ID #345830) Posted on 2008/10/25 11:40
Electrical Engineering Fresh Graduate
me drop kojikan tv, now downloading kojikan dvd ^^
(ID #347546) Posted on 2008/10/26 22:26
Good series will deserve good sales in DVDs, regardless of censorship. Although it is an incentive but not a major one like storyline, qualities and plots
(ID #345679) Posted on 2008/10/25 08:44
Student & Authorized Chicken Slapper
Well I wouldn't mind the censor if I was a member of the bat species but I am not therefore it does suck. I do not remembering it being anywhere near as bad as it is now in the 1st season. In fact maybe its just me but I dun really recall much censoring at all.....maybe just a little. I understand the need to censor sometimes especially on things that air at certain times but yeah I agree with alot of the people stated above me, they so overdid this...
(ID #345700) Posted on 2008/10/25 09:07
Otaku, Gamer, Blogger
I always get the Uncut DVD. But even though it says uncensored, some parts will be cut anyway, like the FUNi's version of DBZ, although that has changed with those "Widescreen" DVDs--sort of..
(ID #345712) Posted on 2008/10/25 09:33
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(ID #345731) Posted on 2008/10/25 10:03
Email & Network Support/Administration
I just got the first volume of Sekirei and it's uncensored, but I didn't get it for that. I didn't really mind the censored images shown when it aired on tv. I really didn't notice the floating nipples defect that's been talked about. I'll get an uncut version if it adds more content, but not really for uncensored content.
(ID #345737) Posted on 2008/10/25 10:11
US Navy Sailor
If the fansubs are all censored like that, I will stop watching the show. And since I can't speak Japanese yet, I will have to wait for someone to pick up the license stateside or wait for the dvd versions to get fansubs. Whichever comes first. Either way, this sucks.
(ID #345770) Posted on 2008/10/25 10:39
You have to look for uncensored here; sometimes they'll even trim or change plot points to make it more palatable for US audiences. Luckily heavy changes are on the decline (too many angry fans *chuckle*) but it's still something to watch out for. And god, that bat is annoying. Not subtle at all! it even blocks the faces of people in the background. It looks like they blew it up beyond the original image size too; it's clearly a different image quality than the rest. . .
(ID #345832) Posted on 2008/10/25 11:41
pepsi??? (Registered on 2007/09/29 23:00)
doesn't subber have those raws that doesnt have those censor? last time i remember chihiro got the raw with no censor bat, and yes i agree with some of you who hates the bat, too annoying
(ID #345863) Posted on 2008/10/25 12:21
Electrical Engineering Fresh Graduate
no, unfortunately there aren't any...those from raw4u are censored too. Wasting my time to download it >.<
(ID #347541) Posted on 2008/10/26 22:21
NEET
Kinda makes you wonder what's the point of airing the series if the censoring is going to be that bad? The same thing happened with Kodomo no Jikan and makes me ponder that the ploy might only be to sell more DVDs. Oh well, it's not like I'm watching Capu2, but I can empathize with the irritation.
(ID #345900) Posted on 2008/10/25 12:53
Grocery Store Clerk
Too much cencorship
(ID #345929) Posted on 2008/10/25 13:33
I'm totally ok with it, otherwise how in the world they would encourage the people the dvd when it comes out. I say it's pretty cruel but still ok, think of it as a preview for the actual thing.
(ID #345977) Posted on 2008/10/25 14:39
Censorship kills the mood of things...and there's no point unless the story is really captivating for me to get it...
(ID #346033) Posted on 2008/10/25 15:53
I don't watch many fanservice anime or somethin that has a lot cut out because of censoring and what does in what I watch I really don't mind to much. Last thing I watched that was fanservicey was Strike Witches and that was the first one in about 2 years I watched that had blatant fanservice.
(ID #346049) Posted on 2008/10/25 16:04
software manager
wholy crap i thought it couldn't get any worse ;_;
(ID #346166) Posted on 2008/10/25 19:08
gave up on this show ages ago gratuitous pantsu showing is not my cup of tea
(ID #346198) Posted on 2008/10/25 19:37
Student and full-time otaku
ZOMG...that's soo lame..the whole point of those shows is cute-sexy-girlies-showing-skin....Didn't know that Strike Witches was censored btw...is it bad?
(ID #346208) Posted on 2008/10/25 19:59
Electrical Engineering Fresh Graduate
yes it does, steam and flashbang....well, no pantsu censor though ^^
(ID #347545) Posted on 2008/10/26 22:23
Polytechnic Senior, Bronze Lifesaving Trainee, Mech Designer, Pokemon Indexer.
That's too much censorship.
(ID #346392) Posted on 2008/10/25 23:58
All I can say is I will look forward to the un-edited and un-cut version (if it's ever released in the States, like the Naruto Uncut DVD sets).
(ID #346548) Posted on 2008/10/26 02:08
It doesn't look like it has anything to censor in the first place.
(ID #346576) Posted on 2008/10/26 02:25
like Kodomo No Jikan too much censor
(ID #346669) Posted on 2008/10/26 03:51
Lowlife
>>The animation quality has also taken a huuuge nosedive into a vat of steaming cack too. R+V has always been this way :V I'm liking Capu 2 half of the time but there's no point if all the service is censored.
(ID #346680) Posted on 2008/10/26 04:03
pedo might be from fan subbers themselves. i remember reading that they didnt like too much fan service and might censor some themselves. or it could be a troll on their part =P
(ID #346758) Posted on 2008/10/26 05:41
They can say the eff word but have to censor innocent eyes? O.o Wasn't showing of eyes allowed before? Because the Japan audience wasn't anal like the Americans.
(ID #346899) Posted on 2008/10/26 09:17
IT Expert / System, Network, Security Administrator
There is no point on censor, you can find a lot anime and real nudes on internet, including lolitas, etc. Btw this puppy is ULTRA lucky, I wish I were the puppy at that time: http://www.sankakucomplex.com/wp-content/gallery/schoolgirl-panchira-mania/vip611340.jpg
(ID #347044) Posted on 2008/10/26 11:49
Quality censorship is always good. this seems to be like they are just covering scenes hoping to uncover them for the DVD release which they know old perverted men will purchase (as was true with the first seasons official demographic poll)
(ID #347132) Posted on 2008/10/26 14:01
Unemployed Dollfie enthusiast
And There was me last year thinking the Crow's in Air Gear were a lame form of censorship.
(ID #347519) Posted on 2008/10/26 21:54
Electrical Engineering Fresh Graduate
those censorship method are ruining my mood...why they have to use that blasted bats :( i want to stick my hand into tv and grab them off..
(ID #347537) Posted on 2008/10/26 22:19
I FEEL ASLEEP
I think it's pretty tragic if anime commonly resorts to teasing you with censored softcore images and then promises uncensored softcore images if you pay them. It basically lowers those shows (and to a degree, anime as a whole) to the level of free previews on porn channels. It would be incredibly weird if, say, Eastenders had a half-naked woman with her tits concealed by a boiling kettle and then charged people to see the scene without the kettle. It'd be (correctly) seen as a sign that the show was on its knees and was trying ANYTHING to get views (and money).
(ID #347939) Posted on 2008/10/27 09:11
I still haven't watched the whole first season of Rosario.
(ID #348032) Posted on 2008/10/27 11:59
The uncensored stuff is good tho hard to find. Kanokon , Rosario & Sekirei Would be Great Uncensored. From what i have seen its look like it be worth it to. :)
(ID #348324) Posted on 2008/10/27 17:55
.NET/Web Developer
That's not even censorship anymore. They're covering much more than what needs to be censored. heheh
(ID #348397) Posted on 2008/10/27 19:51
My thoughts? The bat really doesn't help, since anyone who's watching this knows what's under the bat. Why censor the underwear? It doesn't make sense!
(ID #348618) Posted on 2008/10/28 01:52
I FEEL ASLEEP
When you consider how much otaku tend to fantasise over panties, you'll realise that the panties may as well by a sexual organ as far as they're concerned. They're just as willing to pay for an expensive DVD to see panties as they are to pay to see nipples - possible more so, in some cases.
(ID #348784) Posted on 2008/10/28 04:45
Student/ Everyday Otaku
The bats are really really annoying, I guess sometimes it can be cute or funny. Makes me want to watch it less, since I feel like the quality of animation has dwindled and isn't as good as the first season.
(ID #355826) Posted on 2008/11/02 19:00
Clone Instrument Engineer; Seleção XXV
better wait for the DVD
(ID #486075) Posted on 2009/02/13 00:47
censorship is soo lame
(ID #610144) Posted on 2009/05/18 00:34
If I'm the producer/director and I know that some scene will be censored for both TV and DVD release, I would change the storyboard not showing the nekkid parts, period. Waste time for editors to paste all the censorship mascots. d@@b
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