Censorship in Singapore

(Japan(122)
Sat 2008/08/16 09:29
Looks like Singapore is a tough place for young lads - first they are made to do a few years of service, they have pages torn out of imported Megami and looks like they have light "ecchi" scenes deleted from anime.
Question to Singaporeans - are you happy with this? If not then is something being done about it anywhere?

Original text from Actar below.
For those of you enjoying Zero no Tsukaima: Princess no Rondo on Arts Central in Singapore, did you know that there were huge chunks of episode 6 were censored out? As some of the subbers were slow, I decided to turn to local tv (not a good idea.). At those particular moments, that scene was not coherent. The way that the Love Potion was transfered was via kissing. All the kissing scenes between the girls were removed together with any comments about boobs which I felt were pretty mild (no nudity). Above is a clip of one of the ten deleted scenes... I understand that different cultures have different standards and views. However, what is really wrong with showing some things on television? What are your view on this, whether you are in Singapore or not? Would you feel cheated? (The henshin sequence of kawaii Nanoha was also cut sometime ago...)
Posted on Sat 2008/08/16 09:29 by
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Bayonette in Manila, Philippines (Registered on 2007/03/14 21:38)
College Student
I think I'm feeling cheated ever since I'm watching anime.

It seems that the region of Southeast Asia, especially, Singapore, Malaysia, Indonesia, and the Philippines were a bunch of moral faggots!

Take a look on Animax Asia for example, they censor it the scenes and changing the dialouge to make it more friendly (no swearing, which is bad), making it more like a fag than a serious one. (the only that I don't watch that channel is their in-house dub, which is suck pretty bad!)
(ID #266715) Posted on 2008/08/16 01:57
gurugurutrex in Vancouver, B.C., Canada (Registered on 2007/11/08 04:49)
オタク all day long
Just wait for the DVD release man =]
(ID #269595) Posted on 2008/08/19 05:21
saint_demon in In Front of My Desktop (Registered on 2007/12/02 16:42)
Anime and Manga Downloader
Gladly in Indonesia, the TV stations not bring anime series like Zero no Tsukaima. but some anime series like Naruto, Bleach and Detective Conan will be stopped by KPI (Indonesian Bureau of Broadcasting) because that series showed some mistic (Naruto and Bleach) and sadistic (Detective Conan).

But the side effect of this announcement is the kids will buy the DVD of that series... which in Indonesia, some DVD (pirate) was inserted a some p0rn movie... (in this case showed on Power Ranger / Sentai Series pirate DVD)

what do you think ?
(ID #275455) Posted on 2008/08/23 16:55
saint_demon in In Front of My Desktop (Registered on 2007/12/02 16:42)
Anime and Manga Downloader
sorry, if my english language is so mess ^_^;;
(ID #275464) Posted on 2008/08/23 17:01
Nano in Singapore (Registered on 2008/01/30 22:08)
Student
Lol. 

Was planning to watch. Then subs came in one day before. Lucky me.
(ID #266718) Posted on 2008/08/16 02:05
Risedawn in Dark Side of Singapore (Registered on 2008/01/06 12:01)
Currently Serving National Service
Its because of all the censors that I totally gave up on animes that is aired on Art Central. Whats the use of airing an anime that airs on the same week as japan if they remove all the good parts.
(ID #266720) Posted on 2008/08/16 02:06
leefe in a tincan. (Registered on 2007/08/15 21:37)
Lazyass human
They should change to airing documentaries.
(ID #267233) Posted on 2008/08/16 15:05
pulp in Orange?Lemon? (Registered on 2008/03/25 22:34)
student
Actually...Art Central does have a lot of interesting documentaries, so switching back wouldn't really kill...(well, I can't say it might), but I they likely kept the anime session cause quite a lot of people do watch it.

I personally don't watch cause they seem to have quite a few occasions when the script writer decided to write his own story. In my opinion the major censorship in this ep was likely cause there's a lot of homophobia here....or at least most of the people I've met here so far are pretty squeamish about it.
(ID #267291) Posted on 2008/08/16 16:04
Meimi132 in Leicester for Uni, Norfolk for Home. (Registered on 2007/12/04 05:29)
Student, Otaku, She-Geek(Sheek lol)
Dude that sucks....
(ID #266724) Posted on 2008/08/16 02:13
Pyoro in Singapore (Registered on 2007/08/23 01:35)
Student
well i am not surprised
what stumped me was they even allowed the screening in the first place!
(ID #266731) Posted on 2008/08/16 02:23
xdx in thereddot (Registered on 2008/02/16 14:19)
yea.. me too.. especially when i noticed that Nanoha is rated NC16 over here..
(ID #267062) Posted on 2008/08/16 11:38
Kururugi Seiryuu in Azadistan (Registered on 2008/07/10 19:37)
Gundam Meister
what?! マジっすか?
(ID #269246) Posted on 2008/08/18 19:40
「頂の座」 in That little island South of Malaysia (Registered on 2008/01/05 22:48)
NEET
Never watch anime on Arts Central. It phails on epic proportions. Not to mention they didn't even air Season 1 & 2. And now they air Season 3, talk about random.
The other thing is, they allow kissing to be showed on some of their local DORAMAs. But censors anime. Wtf?
(ID #266737) Posted on 2008/08/16 02:33
xdx in thereddot (Registered on 2008/02/16 14:19)
perhaps, its because in this case its the kissing between two females? and not one male one female? 
yea.. it seems that singapore has tougher censorship on 2D stuff than to 3D..
(ID #267068) Posted on 2008/08/16 11:42
Syugo in Tokyo/Akihabara (Registered on 2008/03/28 02:06)
super otaku, doujin-ka
Man does that suck!!!
I'd hate to live in Singapore!!!
(ID #266744) Posted on 2008/08/16 02:49
leofoe in Dreamland (Registered on 2008/02/08 23:43)
Student
lol~ otakus like us... to choose the best place to survive, my best bet will be japan ^o^
(ID #266762) Posted on 2008/08/16 03:08
Syugo in Tokyo/Akihabara (Registered on 2008/03/28 02:06)
super otaku, doujin-ka
I agree Saber
(ID #266787) Posted on 2008/08/16 03:24
ziroc in West Monroe, LA (Registered on 2008/04/13 13:34)
agree
(ID #266793) Posted on 2008/08/16 03:31
fre1gn in Petrozavodsk, Karelia, Russia (Registered on 2008/06/26 18:51)
total agreement 
(ID #267421) Posted on 2008/08/16 19:31
earth289 in singapore (Registered on 2009/01/31 10:57)
marine engineer
Japan is a so called pure race concept deeply rooted... they are not mutiple race like us and what make you think they will take you in as their own easily. the world is not so simple outside
(ID #593408) Posted on 2009/05/06 20:25
lostandfound in Singapore (Registered on 2007/10/22 03:22)
Part trooper, part -timer, 100% loser...
Well, it is aired quite early... There may still be kids up and about during that time...
I would really like it if they didn't cut the scenes... 
(ID #266761) Posted on 2008/08/16 03:08
soichirosan in UK (Registered on 2008/02/23 08:45)
Artist
Singapore is very conservative, no?  It's really too bad when the thought police get to call the shots in a country, but sadder still when the general populace actually agrees with it. I think producers of entertainment, be they video games, anime, live action movies, books or anything else should have a simple policy the world over - either you release it EXACTLY as the original author/director intended, or you don't get a single page/frame.  
(ID #266765) Posted on 2008/08/16 03:09
Guarayakha in Malaysia (Registered on 2007/09/01 15:05)
3D artist- Codemasters KL
Wait till you get to see our NTV7. Their censorship techniques are so great sometimes you won't even notice that they've cut a chunk of the show till you friend tells you about it. Oh, and as for kissing scenes(no matter same gender or normal), we get the fade in/fade out technique. They're Malaysia's "Sensei of Censorship", I tell you. >_<
(ID #266783) Posted on 2008/08/16 03:20
Aiko-chan in Malaysia (Registered on 2008/04/13 23:34)
Otaku-Lolikon-Student
m'sia wont even show these anime lolz.
anime in m'sia = NO FANS SERVICE ARE ALLOWED
(ID #266796) Posted on 2008/08/16 03:32
Syugo in Tokyo/Akihabara (Registered on 2008/03/28 02:06)
super otaku, doujin-ka
NO FANSERVICE!!!

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
(ID #266858) Posted on 2008/08/16 04:54
holybell84 in Singapore (Registered on 2007/08/22 13:43)
Student
This is Singapore for you: Local TV is killing us with censorship, now the Japanese companies are suing us directly.

Chow Yun Fatt:" WELCOME TO SINGAPORE"
(ID #266807) Posted on 2008/08/16 03:40
Fonzler in a small dark room in Sydney, Australia (Registered on 2007/06/01 00:26)
萌え命
....lah!
(ID #267330) Posted on 2008/08/16 16:48
gordon in 新加坡 Singapore (Registered on 2007/06/11 16:09)
五〇一軍团 TK8316 Singapore Garrison Public Relations Officer
lol u remember our "lah". ^^;
(ID #267533) Posted on 2008/08/16 23:42
Coco the Bean in SoCal, USA (Registered on 2008/01/06 06:53)
Pokemon master
That royally sucks.  Do they at least have an uncensored DVD version?
(ID #266816) Posted on 2008/08/16 03:53
noob in philippines (Registered on 2007/09/02 15:45)
Underdog Artist, Outcast to the Society, Tetsuya Nomura art fan
Censorship sucks, but think about the young viewers first.
Since we are all old and mature people here, I would feel cheated.
(ID #266843) Posted on 2008/08/16 04:25
Syugo in Tokyo/Akihabara (Registered on 2008/03/28 02:06)
super otaku, doujin-ka
Thankfully I don't live in Singapore, I'd be pissed if this happened
(ID #266857) Posted on 2008/08/16 04:54
noob in philippines (Registered on 2007/09/02 15:45)
Underdog Artist, Outcast to the Society, Tetsuya Nomura art fan
neither do I.
(ID #267071) Posted on 2008/08/16 11:46
necrophadian in Palookaville, USA (Registered on 2007/04/22 13:25)
Procrastinator Extraordinaire
"Since we are all old and mature people here"
sometimes I wonder...
(ID #267306) Posted on 2008/08/16 16:16
daichouginga in Byston Well, the land between the earth and the sea (Registered on 2008/06/04 10:28)
The Sword of Magus
Me too. Maybe "Since we are all old people here" works out better.
(ID #268815) Posted on 2008/08/18 11:14
gordon in 新加坡 Singapore (Registered on 2007/06/11 16:09)
五〇一軍团 TK8316 Singapore Garrison Public Relations Officer
BOYCOTT ODEX! 
(ID #266848) Posted on 2008/08/16 04:31
Syugo in Tokyo/Akihabara (Registered on 2008/03/28 02:06)
super otaku, doujin-ka
ODEX SUCKS!!!!!!
(ID #266856) Posted on 2008/08/16 04:53
noob in philippines (Registered on 2007/09/02 15:45)
Underdog Artist, Outcast to the Society, Tetsuya Nomura art fan
ODEX MUST DIE! X-<
(ID #267073) Posted on 2008/08/16 11:48
xsomebodyx in Singapore (Registered on 2008/04/15 19:17)
Full-time National Serviceman Slave
ODEX MUST DIE!
(ID #267145) Posted on 2008/08/16 13:30
yumeno in Singapore (Registered on 2007/10/22 16:01)
Yuri eroge artist. Well, sort of.
ODEX = cockraoch. No matter what we try, they're still alive D:
ODEX MUST DIE!
(ID #267169) Posted on 2008/08/16 14:01
Kitearch in Singapore (Registered on 2008/06/11 01:20)
Student
ODEX MUST DIE!
(ID #267271) Posted on 2008/08/16 15:49
munak in Singapore (Registered on 2008/04/22 14:24)
Student
MUST MUST DIE !!!
(ID #267274) Posted on 2008/08/16 15:53
Pyoro in Singapore (Registered on 2007/08/23 01:35)
Student
THIS IS ODEX!!!!
(ID #267392) Posted on 2008/08/16 18:10
wickedclown in California (Registered on 2007/12/07 22:45)
Programmer/IT/Student
That is plain horrible.  Beside the fact that I would personally feel cheated, hiding things that are a reality in the world, from young kids just makes them end up as ignorant teenagers and then they end up making the worse mistakes of their lives, because they aren't educated.  Sorry, just my opinion on the subject, censorship is wrong.
(ID #266974) Posted on 2008/08/16 08:26
Guin in college,..... (Registered on 2008/01/16 06:36)
Web Surfer, 大学生 【だいがくせい】
i believe they should watch the anime first and then air it at the appropiate time. I mean if the anime was showing two guys kissing some parents wouldnt want their kids to watch that. Specially if it was aired right before school. Does  singapore have a rating system like US ? That would come in handy?
(ID #267157) Posted on 2008/08/16 13:49
nu-REOS (Registered on 2008/07/14 16:48)
That sucks
(ID #266994) Posted on 2008/08/16 08:55
Exiled_Gundam in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia (Registered on 2007/08/22 15:21)
Castoffable figurines fan
Huhu regarding the censorship, Malaysia is more or less the same as Singapore, or maybe stricter. Heck, even sexy figurines can be subjected to confiscation :(
(ID #267024) Posted on 2008/08/16 10:01
Guin in college,..... (Registered on 2008/01/16 06:36)
Web Surfer, 大学生 【だいがくせい】
Even if the're inside your house??
(ID #267159) Posted on 2008/08/16 13:51
Daemon in Bebop (Registered on 2007/11/11 04:40)
Slacker
so...if they try to show ikkitousen, all the kids will see will be the opening and ending credits? lol
(ID #267027) Posted on 2008/08/16 10:13
Exiled_Gundam in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia (Registered on 2007/08/22 15:21)
Castoffable figurines fan
Haha I think Ikkitousen cant even pass the screening xD
Hmm IINM remember several years ago, M'sia satellite TV provider (Astro) accidentally aired Bible Black, but just b4 the H-scene, they stopped
(ID #267029) Posted on 2008/08/16 10:24
Kururugi Seiryuu in Azadistan (Registered on 2008/07/10 19:37)
Gundam Meister
How about Kanokon? I think they probably cut most of the show and left with only what they so called "clean" contents. Perhaps it will ended up like less than 10 minutes per episode if they air the show on local TV.
(ID #269261) Posted on 2008/08/18 20:11
zscout370 in San Diego, California, USA (Registered on 2008/02/10 08:06)
student, vexillologist
I don't think even the OP and ED are safe. I remember the opening from season one; tons of fan service there.
(ID #267049) Posted on 2008/08/16 11:22
Pyoro in Singapore (Registered on 2007/08/23 01:35)
Student
accidentally? wow how dim-witted can they get...
(ID #267391) Posted on 2008/08/16 18:09
BandAiD in 米国 (Registered on 2008/01/08 10:04)
C. Engineering Student
Here in the US we have censorship, but I suppose compared to a lot of places it's pretty lenient.  Everything is basically uncensored.  However when it comes to TV, all nudity is censored, unless the said show is showing on a premium cable station.  tapes/dvds are uncensored though.

To me I don't understand the logic behind censoring nudity, but allowing gore and violent scenes are A-ok.  Sex/Nudity is a natural thing, while some might argue that death/killing might be considered "natural" too but I don't agree with that, because society and humanity has evolved beyond the point of senseless stuff like that.

My number one annoyance when I first got into the otaku world was the censorship on "drawings", and later on even in 3D for things from Japan. However, I got used to it by now and just use my imagination.  I still try searching for uncensored though.  I just wish more artists would start releasing "Freebies" online, because I don't think it would fall under the law anymore?

In a nutshell, I hate censorship of any form, especially when it involves "natural" things.  For example the only reason why female breasts are such a huge deal is because its a "rare sight" for males, it's something thats always hidden.  I'm sure if society decided to treat breasts like it should be treated (natural part of the body) and women are allowed to bare it all without fear of arrest, then the notion behind it will disappear.  Guys won't really obsess over it that much anymore.
(ID #267031) Posted on 2008/08/16 10:39
rotaryknight in Philadelphia (Registered on 2008/02/07 03:40)
Ship welder, IT Guy, Rotary Fanatic
Your thinking and my thinking are very much alike.

I mean wtf, showing violence is better then boobies....boo. Talk about backward thinking. If a boobie pops up during prime time TV (superbowl janet jackson incident) every high morality groups will be spewing their voices onto the networks...but they let violence slides.
(ID #267035) Posted on 2008/08/16 11:05
BandAiD in 米国 (Registered on 2008/01/08 10:04)
C. Engineering Student
Yeah, you gotta love those guys.  I respect other peoples beliefs and whatnot, but don't make the rest suffer because of it.  Just because they believe that, doesn't mean I do.
(ID #267046) Posted on 2008/08/16 11:21
thegeek in Northern California, United States (Registered on 2007/03/26 07:42)
Geek Liaison
Well part of the problem is that the US was founded by a group of Puritans so sexuality uptight that they got kicked out of England. 
(ID #267085) Posted on 2008/08/16 12:10
BandAiD in 米国 (Registered on 2008/01/08 10:04)
C. Engineering Student
So true, I almost spit out my beer from laughing.  kicked out of england.  If I'm ever in a situation where someone asks me why they were kicked out of england, I'll know exactly what to say.
(ID #267090) Posted on 2008/08/16 12:23
Guin in college,..... (Registered on 2008/01/16 06:36)
Web Surfer, 大学生 【だいがくせい】
Dude you should try going to a beach in Marseille , France . Lots o nature there.
(ID #267160) Posted on 2008/08/16 13:53
BandAiD in 米国 (Registered on 2008/01/08 10:04)
C. Engineering Student
Really now?  I hope it's young nature, and not nature around 4-5 decades old.
(ID #267375) Posted on 2008/08/16 17:54
Pyoro in Singapore (Registered on 2007/08/23 01:35)
Student
i think the reason behind the censorship here is simply because in these parts, anime are misunderstood to be "cartoons" for kids. So when you have themes of a sexual nature in a cartoon, people are bound to react, and in these parts, that means complain, be it in blogs, letters to the presses and whatnot. Consequently, there's this fear of upsetting the public that perpetuates throughout the media industry here. Which explains why media as an artform is stagnant these days. Unless the authorities can get past that, censorship will remain as something we will have to deal with.
(ID #267398) Posted on 2008/08/16 18:16
Patrick Tan in Malaysia (Registered on 2008/09/13 19:56)
Student
In malaysia they even ban a "male" singer for taking off only his shirt during a live concert.. i still don't understand what's wrong with it.. maybe the government's mind is too dirty everything is dirty to them.. =___+
(ID #267034) Posted on 2008/08/16 11:00
chun in need to be in bed (Registered on 2007/01/09 15:45)
part time illustrationist, doll clothing seamstress
^^; I know some friends who make a living by censoring the nudity scenes in Manga in order for the manga to make it into singapore ^^;;; but I guess at least better than big chunka badly drawn black marker "swim suit" in some other publications I see from a neighboring country :P
(ID #267044) Posted on 2008/08/16 11:18
lostandfound in Singapore (Registered on 2007/10/22 03:22)
Part trooper, part -timer, 100% loser...
Yea... Atleast the manga getting to Singapore ain't as bad as the anime being aired...
(ID #267061) Posted on 2008/08/16 11:37
bakaboi in singapore (Registered on 2007/09/02 11:10)
student
yes...at least u still can get uncensored japanese versions
(ID #267208) Posted on 2008/08/16 14:39
XSportSeeker in Brazil (Registered on 2007/08/22 06:42)
Dropping computers, starting all over again at Journalism
We do have some of that in Brazil too.. maybe not as extreme as in Singapore (I heard lots of cases just like that), but still, very annoying.

Also, most TV stations will try everything to air a dubbed version... something I just hate.
I have to forever thank fansubbers, because if not for them, I probably would never have gotten into animes.

I started at a late age, when I was already 19, and it was only because I came to know about fansubs.

I'm kinda out of synch with the brazillian anime fanbase, because I simply couldn't watch animes that were on TV, because of dubbing.

So most old animes that most brazilian fans know, I don't.
Also, most animes sometime ago were all censored. They removed from ecchi scenes to things they considered violent, or not suitable for minors.

And all animes were pretty much considered for kids. So they in movie theaters, only dubbed versions. In the TV, they only showed animes in children's show.
Mangas in Brazil, only those suitable for minors.

But things changed... and publishers/licensers finally realized there is a more mature market in Brazil too.
Unfortunately, most companies still treat animes and mangas as kids or teens stuff.
It's a mix of ignorance and misinformation. 
But slowly things are getting better and clearer.

I only hope Singappore walks the same path... censorship, almost always is bad.
I'm specially against chopping off other people's works.

I'd consider an offense if I was the author of one of those.
They rather NOT put it on TV, or just put it in another time of the day, rather than do stuff like that.

If the anime is not suitable for the viewers at a particular time of the day according to the local TV ratings, why do they put it there in the first place?

It's all because anime isn't taken seriously, and most people who are responsible for licensing and displaying them on other countries doesn't even know with what they are dealing with.

Sometimes the censorship is so awful it's like cutting off sex and provocative scenes from a movie like Basic Instinct.

phew... wrote too much. :P
(ID #267052) Posted on 2008/08/16 11:25
Zou in New York City (Registered on 2008/07/08 14:07)
Student & Authorized Chicken Slapper
Hmm...the censorship sounds quite horrible. Taking out certain parts of an anime or manga can fundamentally change the story a bit. Not to mention if you edit the conversation. I dunno, I'm glad I get all my anime via fansubs sooo its fine.
(ID #267057) Posted on 2008/08/16 11:33
lazyasian224 in New York, USA (Registered on 2008/07/21 12:00)
Student
sorta ridiculous... i mean if u censor stuff for kids to that extent... what the hell are they gonna do when they get dumped into the "real" world?  most of these kids are probably watching worse stuff anyway
(ID #267078) Posted on 2008/08/16 11:55
xdx in thereddot (Registered on 2008/02/16 14:19)
Yea.. Singapore's censorship is pretty famous.. I remembered hearing this saying.. "The only ones that are not censored are the ones that are banned"
Singapore's censorship seems to be tougher on 2D as compared to 3D.. it seems..
I wonder why they didn't censor the kissing part between saito and louise in the promotional ads.. maybe its because its between a male and female(natural) and not between two females (unnatural??).. 
so much for supporting cretivity and original...
(ID #267083) Posted on 2008/08/16 12:03
gordon in 新加坡 Singapore (Registered on 2007/06/11 16:09)
五〇一軍团 TK8316 Singapore Garrison Public Relations Officer
Optimus Prime once said, "The freedom to watch uncensored ecchi anime is the right of all otakus (and other sentient beings)."

WE WANT THAT FREEDOM!
(ID #267094) Posted on 2008/08/16 12:35
Striket in Singapore (Registered on 2008/05/14 02:46)
Gamer, Lecturer, Graphic Designer
I'm not bothered since I get the stuff elsewhere (net, imports, etc)
(ID #267109) Posted on 2008/08/16 13:03
Eva in Singapore (Registered on 2008/05/18 21:40)
Admin
Tch tch tch, don't you Singaporeans know what happened to Oliver when he asked for more?

(ID #267114) Posted on 2008/08/16 13:10
gordon in 新加坡 Singapore (Registered on 2007/06/11 16:09)
五〇一軍团 TK8316 Singapore Garrison Public Relations Officer
actually singapore's censorship laws are considered alright as compared to other neighbouring countries. just that in this case we have 2 girls kissing. any affectionate showing that promotes homosexuality will be banned from all media.
(ID #267117) Posted on 2008/08/16 13:13
chibihien in Singapore (Registered on 2008/01/19 22:46)
NEET
no wonder i saw missing pages in my Megami.. i thought it was poor packaging on the publisher's part.

DAMN CENSORSHIP!
(ID #267118) Posted on 2008/08/16 13:13
Eva in Singapore (Registered on 2008/05/18 21:40)
Admin
Think of it as some helpful oniichan taking out the pages that will cause excessive nosebleed. 

Oniichan : "I must protect the pure soul of my nii chan and imouto!"
(ID #267132) Posted on 2008/08/16 13:21
Realta Nua in Jakarta Singapore (Registered on 2007/10/19 23:29)
University Student
Is downloading Fansubs still considered LEGAL in Singapore?

If it still legal, all of you can still rely on fansubs hopefully :3
(ID #267127) Posted on 2008/08/16 13:19
holybell84 in Singapore (Registered on 2007/08/22 13:43)
Student
Well, if u haven't heard, this time, the Japanese Animation Companies are suing downloaders directly after the unsuccessful attempt by Odex last year.
(ID #267195) Posted on 2008/08/16 14:21
Realta Nua in Jakarta Singapore (Registered on 2007/10/19 23:29)
University Student
This is  bad. . . O_o

No more fansub later?

Moreover, my country's anime on TV are not too up-to-date..
How do i watch anime then? 
(ID #267454) Posted on 2008/08/16 20:28
Henry in /usr/bin/ (Registered on 2006/12/25 20:29)
anime/cosplay events organizer
TV? Cencorship? What are those? =P

I don't watch local TV much except for the news XDDD
(ID #267153) Posted on 2008/08/16 13:37
「頂の座」 in That little island South of Malaysia (Registered on 2008/01/05 22:48)
NEET
I haven't touched my TV for 2 years. =p
(ID #267162) Posted on 2008/08/16 13:54
bakaboi in singapore (Registered on 2007/09/02 11:10)
student
i dont have intention to watch local TV
(ID #267212) Posted on 2008/08/16 14:44
xanthe in Philippines (Registered on 2008/05/04 03:19)
aspiring to become a doujin and graphics artist cum lawyer
wow I thought I was the only one who's not watching local tv~

but I don't watch animax either (since my cable operator doesnt have it........)because I prefer subs and buying the actual dvd when they [FINALLY] release those

oh speaking of censorship, dont you get tired of the local news too? I mean all they do is bad mouthing to a point that you have to have your own built-in censorship...
(ID #268246) Posted on 2008/08/17 19:46
E^D Crow in Garfield, New Jersey, USA (Registered on 2007/12/16 08:04)
Compounder
Once something is created, it can't be unmade.  If something really is offensive to a culture they wouldn't have bought the rights to it, nor would it even have been a consideration.  No one deserves a poorer quality product, because their government says it can't be seen as it was meant to.

E^d
(ID #267186) Posted on 2008/08/16 14:14
Anonymous Coward in Singapore (Registered on 2008/06/03 23:33)
I guess we're still okay? We still are 'allowed' certain ways to get our stuffs. At least that's what I think. Through the years it has changed quite a bit tho. Even games we have ratings, I'm not sure how other countries have it.

Luckily. Our otaku stalls can sell pantsu showing figures still. Look at Malaysia, its an offence. LMAO!

(ID #267241) Posted on 2008/08/16 15:16
GiafLop in Philippines (Registered on 2007/11/25 15:27)
Student
I think so too in my region, they just censor stuffs even light ecchi on some late night anime cable. It won't affect us, trust my people.
(ID #267264) Posted on 2008/08/16 15:42
Realta Nua in Jakarta Singapore (Registered on 2007/10/19 23:29)
University Student
Rating in games are acceptable IMO
btw, i disagree with the word "still ok", as we cannot enjoy anime like before..

imagine you watching Strike Witches with the pantsu censored, in the battle scene you will see nothing O_O
(ID #267457) Posted on 2008/08/16 20:32
earth289 in singapore (Registered on 2009/01/31 10:57)
marine engineer
Singapore basically just try to prevent children from being expose to those stuff at young age, although i doesn't stop determined heart. However, all this measure lower crime rate, slow down social and moral degradation in certain level, i believe.

That why you can walk in the night and not really have to worry about robber, murder or rapist luring round corner. I think it more of a parent to children relationship, as you mature in mind you are given more freedom and increase of responsibility for your own action.

Just saying what i think and i apologize to any party or individual i had offended.
(ID #593432) Posted on 2009/05/06 20:51
Infestor51 in Shingapooru (Singapore, for the uninitiated) (Registered on 2008/06/29 03:28)
Student, Forum Mod, Newbie GFXer
Like it or not, Singapore's a conservative country, so anything homosexual (for example) will have to be censored.

I don't really care, since I'd usually skip those scenes myself.
(ID #267261) Posted on 2008/08/16 15:40
necrophadian in Palookaville, USA (Registered on 2007/04/22 13:25)
Procrastinator Extraordinaire
if "the Man" is sticking it to you then there's nothing left to do but enjoy your censorship, tough luck to all of ya.
(ID #267309) Posted on 2008/08/16 16:20
nails in Denver, Colorado (Registered on 2008/04/20 01:59)
IT
I still say Japan needs to get off it's mosaics.  I know the expiration date for the law is long past, yet mosaics continue.  My friend in Japan says it's good cause it makes you use your imagination.  I think mosaics are why the perversion in Japan is so famous :) 
(ID #267336) Posted on 2008/08/16 16:57
•LµŠ†• in Singapore (Registered on 2007/02/10 16:25)
Student
Yes I hate it in Singapore. No wonder our state media is ranked in the 150++

Will be migrating out if I got the chance
(ID #267344) Posted on 2008/08/16 17:13
shiro83 in Singapore (Registered on 2007/12/31 00:39)
Have given up on local TV many moons ago...
(ID #267373) Posted on 2008/08/16 17:52
Clyne in Singapore (Registered on 2007/07/13 18:34)
Data Operator
Damn censorship. I prefer D-grayman at Art Central.. 
(ID #267393) Posted on 2008/08/16 18:10
Pyoro in Singapore (Registered on 2007/08/23 01:35)
Student
what! they ripped out pages from megami? that's the first i heard about that! 
(ID #267400) Posted on 2008/08/16 18:18
Exiled_Gundam in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia (Registered on 2007/08/22 15:21)
Castoffable figurines fan
Haha in Malaysia, the customs even ripped pages from Dengeki Hobby (in my case, some pages that depict sexy figurines got ripped off, and that was 4++ years ago)
(ID #267716) Posted on 2008/08/17 04:02
Realta Nua in Jakarta Singapore (Registered on 2007/10/19 23:29)
University Student
Luckily the Customs in Indonesia didn't do anything to my Dengeki Hobby..

Very tough otaku life in Malaysia, i presume?
(ID #268211) Posted on 2008/08/17 19:16
Kururugi Seiryuu in Azadistan (Registered on 2008/07/10 19:37)
Gundam Meister
Yeah, it really frustrated for the readers and I can hardly find Dengeki Hobby around the region. Ahhh curse u stupid government!!!
(ID #269243) Posted on 2008/08/18 19:34
silent1134 in Los Angeles, California (Registered on 2007/08/22 15:45)
???Confused???
Censorship is such a drag...it takes away some of the fun stuff in anime...
(ID #267456) Posted on 2008/08/16 20:31
The Darkness in Panama (Registered on 2008/05/20 05:40)
God of the Overlords
censorship is a bitch, it destroys the best part of the anime, the fanservice.
(ID #267555) Posted on 2008/08/17 00:25
andra in Singapore (Registered on 2007/11/06 15:31)
中学生
for god's sake I rarely watch TV except for the olympics now ^^;
(ID #267596) Posted on 2008/08/17 01:09
Lovecross in Singapore (Registered on 2008/07/13 15:45)
Student
Singapore is really a bad place to grow up with all the restriction 
and we had to serve national service for 2 years.
That plain stupid and one of the reasons some people are trying to migrate.
There are also a recent survey shown that about 56% of the parents/adult think that Singapore is not a good place for childens to grow up too.
(ID #267597) Posted on 2008/08/17 01:10
earth289 in singapore (Registered on 2009/01/31 10:57)
marine engineer
How many children today or should i said parent spend time with their children more than 10 hour a week? like sitting down to watch television and chat, most will just shut in their room and do their own thing. However i have to agree that National Service hinder our life a bit ... although it does turn little boy into man in certain small level. sorry if i offended you.
(ID #593441) Posted on 2009/05/06 21:02
Boris in USA (Registered on 2006/12/26 01:24)
Visual Communications and Web 2.0
awww thats not good, good thing you can watch it online uncut!
actually in USA there is slight censorship on anime with "adult" content as they call it. They either blur things out or cut them all together. They even blur out female naked ass, while there is nothing there. >.< 
(ID #267677) Posted on 2008/08/17 02:53
Poofiemus in Education Camp, US (Registered on 2008/07/22 05:49)
University's Slave
Yeah, I've noticed that too.  Still, I'd like to mention that some dubbing companies are worse about the censorship issue than others.  4Kids is particularly bad, mostly because they presume animation is, well, for kids. The other major complaints people here have with 4Kids are: their tendency to edit episodes even when the content isn't offensive at all, and the exceedingly poor quality of their voice acting. 

Still, the severeness of the editing is slowly getting pushed out. The companies that license this stuff are finally figuring out that a lot of anime actually isn't intended for little kids.  Gee, what a concept. *eyeroll*
(ID #267818) Posted on 2008/08/17 08:30
iron2000 in SG (Registered on 2007/12/20 00:56)
Huh! There was removed scenes in that ep?
Damn!

Like that they setup that MobTV channel also no use, showing censored anime.
(ID #268149) Posted on 2008/08/17 18:31
Lyra Orphee in Sanctuary (Registered on 2008/07/07 16:00)
Salaryman
censorship sucks...

I wonder how they gonna censor Detroit Metal City in Singapore lol
(ID #268261) Posted on 2008/08/17 20:13
gordon in 新加坡 Singapore (Registered on 2007/06/11 16:09)
五〇一軍团 TK8316 Singapore Garrison Public Relations Officer
hey at least we get games like Grand Theft Auto IV. ('~')
(ID #268424) Posted on 2008/08/18 01:27
radical anime fan in 2009 Singapore. (Registered on 2007/01/25 22:32)
Polytechnic Senior, Bronze Lifesaving Trainee, Mech Designer, Pokemon Indexer.
It's a desperate ploy by the government to prevent the traffic in GTA from becoming reality here XDDD
(ID #268466) Posted on 2008/08/18 02:04
radical anime fan in 2009 Singapore. (Registered on 2007/01/25 22:32)
Polytechnic Senior, Bronze Lifesaving Trainee, Mech Designer, Pokemon Indexer.
Princess no Rondo is on Arts Central?! I guess my country is more groovy than I thought! :D

Then again, if it's late night anime, the censorship thing is pretty dumb. The government underestimates the maturity of our youngsters nowadays :P
(ID #268465) Posted on 2008/08/18 02:03
thefrikking in Spain (Registered on 2007/08/18 07:42)
Ork Warlord
This things sucks, really sorry for them... But is a pain that the TV version have censor to, at last we`ll have DVD version later
(ID #268646) Posted on 2008/08/18 05:44
Ninja Poe Bear in California (Registered on 2008/07/10 18:18)
Studio Bleach founder/owner
What I found to be ironic is the fact that when .hack//Legend of the Twilight Bracelet was published in Singapore by Chuang Yi, it turned out to have a better English translation and less censoring than the version published by Tokyopop. (Then again, I never went beyond the first volume. That, and they called Ouka "Orca" in the first print.)

But, I guess that is what happens when you live in a country that does not only consider nudity to be a cultural taboo. That, and the sheer fact that Tokyopop does their own translations does not help either.

Besides, if I do recall... Japan is also not free from censorship either. So, to some, badmouthing the U.S. for not showing nudity on non-cable channels might not be the best thing. Because I do recall that both Cowboy Bebop and Samurai Champloo had to be shown on two different channels due to their content. Plus, there were talks of what could and could not be shown on Japanese TV in terms of "physical content".

And my advice when it comes to this issue? Either go import DVD/Blu-ray or but a "Nice Boat". XP
(ID #268680) Posted on 2008/08/18 06:57
Neutrinos in Singapore (Registered on 2008/03/25 11:36)
Engineering research
*sigh* It's tough being a singaporean dude.
(ID #269023) Posted on 2008/08/18 14:31
zenical in Singapore (Registered on 2007/11/08 11:45)
boss of zotaku!!!!
lol I watched the episode before it got aired xD. And it's a first that megami pages have been torn. SINCE WHEN? o.O
(ID #269033) Posted on 2008/08/18 14:40
makeme in the interweb (Registered on 2008/08/18 13:07)
Watch Singaporean Royston Tan's Cut on YouTube.
'Nuff said.
(ID #269390) Posted on 2008/08/18 23:21
BeLe in Davao, Philippines (Registered on 2007/01/03 17:48)
.NET/Web Developer
which is why I thought twice before looking for work in singapore. lol
(ID #271392) Posted on 2008/08/20 18:58
Hiyuu in Singapore (Registered on 2008/03/23 06:47)
Musician, Sound Engineer, Student - Currently Military (2yrs)
When did they tear out pages of MEGAMI? I haven't noticed missing stuff... :O
(ID #273092) Posted on 2008/08/21 21:38
wildquaker in Philippines (Registered on 2008/08/12 22:38)
Web Developer
Truth be told...I envy Singapore. I'm beginning to feel like I'm missing out on a lot of scenes from animes I've watched.
(ID #274146) Posted on 2008/08/22 15:47
altairvega in Bandar Seri Bergawan, Brunei (Registered on 2008/10/25 18:09)
In Brunei Darussalam we had Newtype with ecchi bits scribbled on with black marker.
(ID #427641) Posted on 2008/12/28 18:39
Wyu in Singapore (Registered on 2008/01/13 22:15)
Anigao Kigurumi Cosplayer, Professional mask maker.
Well 100% of anime I watch are downloaded from fansubbers... Yeah I would discourage people watching it off television anytime. Even if there is nothing to censor... I think the original sounds and voices are cooler. Started watching anime on TV though... then they were in mandarin and shown late at night lol... anyone know this too?
(ID #592375) Posted on 2009/05/06 02:05
hikari2905 in currently at Tanjung Malim, Malaysia... (Registered on 2009/01/29 14:10)
teacher-to-be...hahaha
I, command you (Censorship) to go down to the deepest pit of Hell!
(ID #594957) Posted on 2009/05/07 21:03
shalala in london (Registered on 2009/01/30 02:57)
student/hikikomori
Thats is pure evillll. Censorship is EVILLL. Must be bannad.
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