Fri 2009/05/22 11:27
There has been demonstrations going on due to the introduction of Jury Duty in Japan this July where citizens will be called upon to decide the fate of the prosecuted. Folks who don't have a good reason not to attend when called upon will face fines up to 100,000 yen. Folks who are found to be giving false excuses face fines of up to 500,000 yen. Folks who are against the jury duty system say that they don't want to decide whether people go to prison or get the death sentence. The most interesting thing is that the government is using moe anime to promote the jury duty system which you can watch below. These clips explain the system, who is who in the court and goes through some examples. No moe anime is complete without sailor fuku girls. The anime is called "Bokura no Saibanin Monogatari" or roughly translated as "Our Jury Story." Screenshots from the anime below - quality is actually better than some of the crud now showing - and more educational too.What do you think of all this? Should this be left to the courts or citizens? Do you have jury duty in your kingdom? Have you been and if so what is it like? Some photos of a recent demonstration at webry with news from the following sources:- http://www.yomiuri.co.jp/e-japan/kumamoto/news/20090522-OYT8T00089.htm http://www.kahoku.co.jp/news/2009/05/20090522t73026.htm http://www.47news.jp/CN/200905/CN2009050901000616.html Akihabara News - Gadgetry from Japan (Subscribe)
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jury duty is only for taxpayers, i find it necessary for a unbias view on the defendants. people always wants to skip jury duty, i dont see why you should.
(ID #616383) Posted on 2009/05/22 10:31
Anigao Kigurumi Cosplayer, Professional mask maker.
Yeah, a friend of mine got called up for jury duty and it does put an extra commitment into his schedule. I suppose it is a little like sudden community service. I do hope the jury are made up of "proper" people being most important. Don't want an accused being judged inappropriately due to the jury fooling around.
(ID #616455) Posted on 2009/05/22 11:34
i am gonna assume that's somewhere else, cause we don't have jury duty here. Instead, we have re-service for the army, which i must say, after all that is said and done, pays well better than 15 bucks a day...
(ID #616692) Posted on 2009/05/22 15:45
Engineering research
On my last mobilization they paid me $30, that's well over 15 i guess ^^;;
(ID #616704) Posted on 2009/05/22 16:20
"Don't want an accused being judged inappropriately due to the jury fooling around." Juries have to be approved. This means that people can be ruled unsuitable as a jury member if they aren't taking the case serious, have committed a crime themself or similar. On top of that they have to be new to the case and the people in it. This means that you can get a jury member replaced if it's say an ex-girlfriend. Juries also gets a bit of law school before the trial and there is a trained judge (or more than one) to who have the final word. Even though it's rare it can happen that the jury says guilty and the judge rules lack of evidence. I don't think people should be scared of going to jail for something they didn't do unless corruption or other foul play takes places.
(ID #617271) Posted on 2009/05/23 02:05
university film student
Indeed. The jury selection process is several days long and quite lengthy here. The head lawyers of both side sit in attendance and can object to any choice.
(ID #624279) Posted on 2009/05/28 17:59
In my humble opinion.. Jury Duty is a duty we have to our country here in america.. And should be taken quite seriously. As far as Japan is concerned, I'm not sure their system could benefit from it. But given that, You never know if a judge is on the take, or if he has some prejudice against you because of whatever reasons. A jury takes a lot of that out of the picture. Lets face it.. its tough to get however many people to agree on one course of action.
(ID #617444) Posted on 2009/05/23 05:48
Otaku, Gamer, Collector, Forum Moderator
Yep they have jury duty here also... I have not been selected for it ^_^ i'm happy about that
(ID #616389) Posted on 2009/05/22 10:40
panda, you woudn't like the cafeteria there.... it's criminal I tell ya.
(ID #616478) Posted on 2009/05/22 11:50
They wouldn't server that cr@p at Guantanamo.
(ID #616485) Posted on 2009/05/22 11:55
One man company, visual UI / icon designer.
Jury duty doesn't exist over here, so that makes me quite happy too ^__^
(ID #616718) Posted on 2009/05/22 16:43
JooNkeN (Registered on 2008/04/05 00:52)
"Folks who are against the jury duty system say that they don't want to decide whether people go to prison or get the death sentence." Whatever happened to the power of the people? Are they saying they refuse to take part in their government's actions? And then they complain when something doesn't go the way they want, right? Poor argument on their part in my opinion. In America everybody hates jury duty. Not because of the court judging, etc., but rather due to the process of becoming or being selected as one. I have not personally been summoned to jury duty but I hear they take a lot of your time, and often don't even choose you to be a jury. [They call a lot of people then choose a few] Not only that, you do not get payed while you are serving as jury. Many people have jobs that do not excuse them from work due to jury duty, much less pay them. Some people just cannot afford to miss work. While you can request an excuse, that doesn't always work. >_>
(ID #616394) Posted on 2009/05/22 10:44
wait i was under the impression jury duty is paid, but how much i don't know.....lol i guess if you earnt lots per hour you would be losing out but yea work commitments doesn't always allow. but it must be up to the people at work or wherever to allow for this.
(ID #616397) Posted on 2009/05/22 10:48
In the United States, at least, you do get paid as compensation for your time. Though if you make at least $10 USD an hour then it's not much what they give you. It's also up to your employer if they want to continue to pay your hours while on duty. http://www.uscourts.gov/jury/jurypay.html
(ID #616420) Posted on 2009/05/22 11:04
JooNkeN (Registered on 2008/04/05 00:52)
Thank you for the correction. However, do you get payed during jury selection as well? From the link you gave me, it seems to give the impression that you are only payed during the days that you are actually in court as a member of the jury. I think the jury selection process is what people hate the most; not the actual jury duty in the court.
(ID #616447) Posted on 2009/05/22 11:27
According to the 'Selection of Jurors' page, it says that potential jurors drawn randomly from their lists are sent a questionnaire to assess eligibility. If selected will they then serve during a trial. Based on that I would say you only get paid when serving and not during the selection process because it does not impede on your schedule. The only time taken from your day is to fill out the questionnaire and turn it in which I don't think would take long. I would also guess that it isn't the selection but the seemingly "forced" responsibility into another person's affairs. Some people would rather not be involved and continue with their own activities. I wouldn't call it total apathy but more of a lack of empathy. Plus I don't believe the average citizen would enjoy sitting in a court room all day for a week or more listening to all the legalese.
(ID #616467) Posted on 2009/05/22 11:42
Ah, wait. It also notes this process is used for potential jurors and based on the replies here of those who have served you seem to lose a day. They select from the pre-selected of the pre-selected to serve. And you don't get paid for that day either. (>oo)>
(ID #616494) Posted on 2009/05/22 12:04
JooNkeN (Registered on 2008/04/05 00:52)
Maybe they changed eligibility assessments; I heard that they have a one on one interview with you to see if you're biased/racist/etc., or not. Hence why it takes so long for the selection process. Hmm not enough information is given by Danny as to whether what the protester's demands are. I understand that some people wish to remain out of the deciding circle but if they're protesting to abolish the jury duty system, it's impeding on other citizens and their rights as well as the power of the people. If they're protesting to be able to opt-out of the jury selection system, I suppose that makes more sense. But then there's the whole argument about a citizen's 'duty' to the country. Since I'm not informed on what their demands are, I cannot comment further.
(ID #616501) Posted on 2009/05/22 12:10
Software Quality Engineer
I was called for the jury selection process last year but was not chosen. I basically sat around reading for 6 hrs. I was paid for that, but only 17.00 USD! That would be extremely unfortunate for someone who is paid hourly wages. I am lucky that I have a full-time salaried position, so I still got my full day's pay anyway.
(ID #618323) Posted on 2009/05/23 23:49
wonder why the guys above didn't vote but i don't see the big problem with jury duty, its like a big part of the law system in most western countries. Sure decisions made by experienced judges would "seem" fair but how can that person be truly the representative view of the entire population in which the judge is supposedly deciding for? discrepencies are a different thing. from what i remember, Sentencing is done by the judge not jury, and the decision of guilty or not guilty is done by the jury no? so no one would be able to get the chance of deciding death sentences and even prison time. I got a feeling most Japanese aren't opposed to this, its just the random extremist who protest and what not and getting decent media coverage
(ID #616395) Posted on 2009/05/22 10:46
JooNkeN (Registered on 2008/04/05 00:52)
I was always under the impression that the judge always had the final say in the case deciding whether someone is guilty or not. However, I believe that there is very little chance or very rare cases that will require a judge to go against the jury's decision. <- Is anybody able to confirm this? Is a judge able to overturn a jury's decision? You're right on the part where the jury only decides if the defendant is guilty or not; they do not discuss time / sentencing. As for the extremist comment: That's what makes up the world's media these days; Minority Rule. If you would actually gather statistics on complaints / protests / etc. etc., that seems to engulf the media, you'll often see that the number of people that have problems with a certain issue is very few. This is mainly due to the fact that a very large amount of the population are impartial to the matter in question. This doesn't only apply to the media, it applies to other things as well, such as a company's products and services.
(ID #616462) Posted on 2009/05/22 11:39
university film student
I don't think the judge is allowed to overturn the jury. They just decide sentencing.
(ID #624282) Posted on 2009/05/28 18:01
Student, Otaku, She-Geek(Sheek lol)
lol, in that first video, the school entrance looks like the school entrance in either Air or Kanon... I can't remember exactly... I think in Air the layout was more like that. Neither of my parents have been called for jury duty, my mother was called as a witness once... but not on the jury. I'm old enough to be on the jury..... but I doubt I ever will be lol.
(ID #616398) Posted on 2009/05/22 10:48
I have my first jury duty in 2 weeks =[
(ID #616401) Posted on 2009/05/22 10:50
Half Engineer, Half Student, All Robot
I really hope you're not stuck on the grand jury. Otherwise, kiss a month of your worklife good bye.
(ID #616683) Posted on 2009/05/22 15:25
Kendo Kid / 大学生
I can see what they mean; I wouldn't like that much pressure on me even if I just a part of a group. But I do feel it is safer in the hands of the people
(ID #616402) Posted on 2009/05/22 10:51
Student
I got called but since I'm still at school about 400 miles away from home there was no way I could go so I had it "postponed" until summer. I don't know if they'll still need me then though lol but I didn't really want to go anyways. Maybe once just to see what it's like... I originally tried to use a "no transportation" excuse but they shot it down even though they're the ones who provided that option when filling out the form to cancel/postpone... It's like okay, suit yourself, I can't magically teleport back home. My dad resubmitted a request to just postpone instead though and for some reason they were okay with that. They must really want me to go lol.
(ID #616405) Posted on 2009/05/22 10:53
Half Engineer, Half Student, All Robot
As a student, you probably want to get it over with now. You get exempt from being called again for a couple of years. Don't want to be called in once you've started that new job after school, no?
(ID #616685) Posted on 2009/05/22 15:27
Part time everything, Full time slacker.
There is Judy Duty in Canada. My aunt was called to one a few years ago, but she gave a valid reason for not being able to attend, and so she was excused. Other than that, I have never heard of any friends or family members being called to one.
(ID #616406) Posted on 2009/05/22 10:53
#1 Jury Duty is both a waste of time for me and everyone else involved. I mean once they take a look at me, I'm out the door. Why not take a picture and then you can remember before even bother to call me in. #2 I wish I could get my Green Card status back... I hate jury duty, but I needed to become citizen in order to get a passport from here.
(ID #616407) Posted on 2009/05/22 10:53
former Emperor of Britannia
The hell... they should shove their sins to other people.
(ID #616408) Posted on 2009/05/22 10:55
I have yet to be selected for jury duty - thankfully. Most people I know who have been selected spend a week sitting around with a lot of other people in a big room waiting and end up doing nothing. Some unfortunate people end up sitting through a harrowing case or a long, drawn out case. It is fairly easy to get out of Jury Duty over here, at least that's what I understand. For example, if you cannot get away from work because you are the only breadwinner or are critical to your job, then you have a good chance to avoid it. You can always lie to the Judge and give the Defense or the Prosecution some indication that you are unfavorable to their case. I'm not sure if you only have a few options to turn it down after which you have no choice. Either way, the question of who should decide the fate of the damned is a tricky one. If it were left to a secret, shadowy government committee, then who know what would happen.
(ID #616409) Posted on 2009/05/22 10:55
Student
If you demonstrate bias then you might be able to avoid it. I would hate to be picked and then have either the prosecution or defense declare a tainted jury pool.
(ID #616686) Posted on 2009/05/22 15:27
In hindsight I would not promote telling fibs to get out of Jury Duty. Honesty if always best. Justice is a serious matter and there is no place for dishonesty or duplicity or deceit. That's called perjury, even though we are talking about jury selection in this case.
(ID #617581) Posted on 2009/05/23 09:17
Procrastinator Extraordinaire
should be in people's hands. Freedom of choice is what we need, but freedom from choice is what the majority wants. Ironically, I skipped jury duty once, but I had a valid reason for it *cough *cough
(ID #616410) Posted on 2009/05/22 10:55
I love how anime is used to promote everything. Anyway, I'm sure everyone has something against jury duty. I don't know anyone who would actually volunteer or want to go serve as a juror. You have to get there early in the morning, only to sit there with many other disgruntled adults, waiting to see if your group gets picked or not. If you do get picked, you have to show up again the next day, to sit through instructions and a dull trial, only to get paid a measly 15USD at the end of the day. But the good side of the jury system is that judges don't get to decide the fate of the defendants. I've read some news articles before about corrupt judges handing out harsh or unfair punishments.
(ID #616411) Posted on 2009/05/22 10:55
AdvDip Network Security - CCNA - Ironport - Security+
I dont really mind jury duty - though i havent been called out yet. Over here you get paid whatever you usually get paid during your regular working hours w/o overtime - It's not bad But deciding the fate of another person - Touchy topic
(ID #616412) Posted on 2009/05/22 10:56
woo thats cool i knew it was something along those lines, getting paid for not doing much :P
(ID #616413) Posted on 2009/05/22 10:58
Cases which involve capital punishment could still be presided only by experienced judges. For other cases that isn't too complex in legal or technical nature, as long as the trial is an open and fair one, in which the defendant is given competent counsel to put forth his defense, I don't see why the would-be jurors are afraid of handing out sentences. It's just a weak excuse that they couldn't care less about doing any civic duty. It's like national service here in Singapore where adult males are enrolled into military service for 2 years, kinda like Taiwan, South Korea or Israel with their mandatory military service. I say males because I wouldn't call a good portion of them men. They'd find all kinds of ways and means to escape this duty, taking pride in how smart they are in bypassing the system. People who duly do their national service would be looked upon as mental cases. I suspect, in this, the Japanese aren't so different from us.
(ID #616415) Posted on 2009/05/22 10:59
general contractor- remodeling
We do have the jury system here in the US and I just had to serve on jury duty for a drunk driving case. Despite my best effort to be excused from the case, since I'm self employed and get no income when I don't work, the judge said that only if it was an extreme financial hardship would he excuse me. It was a bit tedious at times but otherwise very interesting to watch our legal system work. Compared to systems in other countries around the world it seems pretty fair. At the start there were about 70 people called and we were narrowed down to 12 jurors and 2 alternates. 13 strangers and I listened to 3 days of testimony from the arresting officer, 2 experts,the defendant, the defense and prosecting attorneys and in the end hashed it out in the jury room to decide, beyond a reasonable doubt, whether the defendant was guilty or innocent. It's an amazing process to participate in, but for $15 a day is best if you have free time. In the end we found the defendant guilty. We were not told what the penatly would be. No that I've served, I can't be called for 2 years.
(ID #616416) Posted on 2009/05/22 10:59
I have been called in for Jury duty a couple of times (in fact I am in the middle of a term or whatever they call it now). I have never been picked to serve a jury though. Unfortunately they seem to call me in about every 3 years or so. They pay about $7 an hour around here, even if you just sit around waiting to be picked. All total I have probably made about $60 over few times I had to go in. I have to drive all the way to the other side of town early in the morning though which is no fun. Last time I could find anywhere to park nearby (they have almost no parking and its down town so its always busy around there) so I had to walk/run from several blocks away. Fortunately I have to be out of town during the next time they want me to come in. It was scheduled before I got summoned so I am off the hook!
(ID #616419) Posted on 2009/05/22 11:02
Yeah the main thing is that you get paid sod-all to show up which really screws you over if you're being tight with money and have to miss word because of jury duty. And seeing how lax the Japanese legal system is, I'm sure it won't be hard to get out of jury duty with some sort of excuse.
(ID #616424) Posted on 2009/05/22 11:08
Student
lol on anime for the jury duty! hahaha... i just cant imagine that over here...
(ID #616443) Posted on 2009/05/22 11:23
As much as I dislike having to sit eight hours waiting for them to call a panel, I still think that unbiased citizens should decide the fate of the prosecuted...luckily it's only once a year here...
(ID #616446) Posted on 2009/05/22 11:24
I remember them sending me a notice through the mail saying they'd consider me for jury duty and that I had to call, but I just... never called/bothered. orz ^^;
(ID #616448) Posted on 2009/05/22 11:27
OBJECTION!!!! Kinda surprised they don't use Phoenix Wright to advertise this.
(ID #616451) Posted on 2009/05/22 11:30
JooNkeN (Registered on 2008/04/05 00:52)
Isn't Phoenix Wright a lawyer? A jury and a lawyer are separate entities; I don't think it's a good idea to use one to promote the other. Plus, there's the whole licensing fees and what not.
(ID #616468) Posted on 2009/05/22 11:42
Studio Bleach founder/owner
Perfect timing Danny, seeing how I have jury duty on the 26th. XP And this time around, I plan to kill time by watching nothing but anime on my laptop. Last time, it was a portable DVD player and did not bring much to watch. XP
(ID #616452) Posted on 2009/05/22 11:31
I agree. I have jury duty throughout all of July. >_< What sucks though is that I'm still in the waiting pool until they assign me to a case. What's worse is that I can't bring any electronic devices with me into the court house.
(ID #616466) Posted on 2009/05/22 11:41
Tell them you think you have the N1H1. Or once you get there just start sneezing and coughing all over the place.
(ID #616474) Posted on 2009/05/22 11:49
Software Quality Engineer
Throughout ALL of July?? Wait-- how does that happen!? I would be really upset if that happened to me...
(ID #618333) Posted on 2009/05/23 23:59
Nice. I would try this but I highly doubt they would allow you to carry a portable MP3 player that can play videos to watch anime while during the court is in proceedings. Imagine the shock of everyone while in the middle of a cross-examination of a witness a booming "Moe Moe Kyu~n!" fills the room and all eyes fall on you.
(ID #616480) Posted on 2009/05/22 11:51
Pokemon master
>Imagine the shock of everyone while in the middle of a cross-examination of a witness a booming "Moe Moe Kyu~n!" fills the room and all eyes fall on you LOL. That made me laugh.
(ID #616569) Posted on 2009/05/22 13:07
We have jury duty here and I think its a good thing ^^; Sense the people in the jury don't already have opinions of the people.
(ID #616454) Posted on 2009/05/22 11:32
I'm probably the only guy who wants jury duty as to see different view points of society in one room duke it out and come to a unanimous decision. But that's just me.
(ID #616465) Posted on 2009/05/22 11:40
If people don't want to be on jury duty they shouldn't have to be. If democracy is an option for people than it isn't democracy anymore.
(ID #616470) Posted on 2009/05/22 11:44
Engineering research
I love your definition of democracy, i reserve my rights to pay taxes too! =)
(ID #616707) Posted on 2009/05/22 16:26
Jury duty is a very unjapanese thing to do for them, that's why they "Do Not Want".
(ID #616471) Posted on 2009/05/22 11:45
Argh! I've been selected to be in a jury pool three times in the past 6 years.... On my third time, I was finally selected, but during the jury questioning by the judge, the question came up that "do you know anyone in law enforcement?" So I truthfully answered that I have a friend working in a law enforcement agency. And the judge asked if I still could be fair and unbiased, and I responded yes. However the defense lawyer probably did not want to take a chance and used one of his exclusions to "remove" me from the jury. True story. It's nice to know friends in law enforcement. :)
(ID #616472) Posted on 2009/05/22 11:48
Otaku, US Army, Student (Political Science)
If only the USA had moe anime to promote jury duty. I'd volunteer all the time then! Maybe instead of payment they could offer the option of a free anime figure too! ^^
(ID #616475) Posted on 2009/05/22 11:49
Jury duty's been part of my country's law pretty much since the country was founded. The whole idea is so that you can get a judgement from people who are not affiliated with the government. It's part of the checks and balances to help prevent corruption of the judicial branch. So, yeah, jury duty's a good idea.
(ID #616477) Posted on 2009/05/22 11:49
im sure some people would rather gladly pay the fine LOL ahahha
(ID #616484) Posted on 2009/05/22 11:54
I personally don't think jury duty would be that bad. I guess it depends on what kind of case you get and some other circumstances. All the older people I know (50's or so) don't want to do it. My boss pretended to be dumb so they wouldn't pick him and he ended up getting out of it. As bad as that sounds, it was probably a good thing because he's the one that does most of the work in the lab. Without him none of the tests would get done. @_@;
(ID #616495) Posted on 2009/05/22 12:04
Gundam Pilot (in training)
jury duty... my uncle got jury duty once but he was in jail at the time, he had a good excuse for not going lol
(ID #616499) Posted on 2009/05/22 12:07
This contains two bad informations. 1: your uncle is a criminal 2: California use criminal people to judge possible lawful citizens I guess I shouldn't be surprised at 2. After all California managed to call a dog to the jury a few years back. Turned out they did because that dog was allowed to vote too @_@
(ID #617561) Posted on 2009/05/23 08:35
university film student
I remember that! I found it hilarious - if a bit sad that the systen was that easy to trick. IIRC the owner decided to do it just to see if he could and was surprised when it was no hassle at all.
(ID #624283) Posted on 2009/05/28 18:04
Serving on a jury was one of the most rewarding experiences of citizenship - more so than voting. Perhaps many who are against jury duty should at least consider trying it before they knock it? = )
(ID #616507) Posted on 2009/05/22 12:13
Yomiuri did a poll on this a couple of weeks back... A majority of Japanese, when asked whether they thought the new jury duty system was a good idea or not, said they liked it. On the other hand, when asked if they were ready to serve on jury duty, a majority of Japanese did not want to participate in it. ^^;;;
(ID #616508) Posted on 2009/05/22 12:15
CEO MIrai Inc
LOL ^^;;
(ID #616614) Posted on 2009/05/22 13:57
I believe that's called NIMBY. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NIMBY
(ID #617668) Posted on 2009/05/23 11:24
Developer/Student
Poll reminds me of Judge Dredd, where one man serves as Judge, Jury, and Executioner. Although it sounds bad ass in comics, in reality, one should be willing to take part in their government's due process for punishing crime. Haven't served jury duty yet, but I think my work still pays for the time off, so I wouldn't mind, as it would be a vacation of sorts for me.
(ID #616515) Posted on 2009/05/22 12:20
Student Pharmacist, Webmaster
Registering to vote = signing up for jury duty. It's funny how they promote participation in elections when there's a counter-incentive to it.
(ID #616523) Posted on 2009/05/22 12:24
student, vexillologist
You can also get snagged by jury duty for getting a driver's license or getting some sort of state ID from your local DMV office.
(ID #616571) Posted on 2009/05/22 13:07
Student/Busboy/Otaku
Jurors are also picked from county tax rolls and utility and phone company billings as well. So you are basically signed up whether you like it or not...unless you live in a cardboard box, have no job and car, and don't vote. @_@
(ID #616720) Posted on 2009/05/22 16:52
The process of a trial should be left to the court system, or used only for non-felonious trials. Quite frankly I've seen enough instances of someone being wrongfully prosecuted thanks to the jury's bias that I really have no faith in the jury system anymore. I personally know one person that was wrongfully convicted of his dad's murder because the prosecutor was a slimeball and the jury bought into his slant rather than the evidence, which was pretty much nonexistent. (He was eventually acquitted, but only after spending several years in jail). I'd be just as happy if the jury system were either done away with, or they had professional jurors fully trained in the law like lawyers to preside over cases. As it stands if you ever go on trial for anything even remotely serious and you know you're not guilty you probably don't want a jury.
(ID #616526) Posted on 2009/05/22 12:25
Student/Part-timer
I was selected a while back, used school and exams as an excuse to worm myself out of it haha. Not that I mind going, and you do get paid to sit there. But depending on the trial, it may get dragged on, and that I didn't want to do.
(ID #616527) Posted on 2009/05/22 12:26
Self Employee NEET
No Jury duty in my country. But IF I were selected. I would be extra carefully to make the decision, because this is involving someone future, or even worst, someone life. I don't wanna regret for the rest of my life if I put someone status as guilty and then I found out if he/she was actually not guilty (or vice versa) after in the later years
(ID #616541) Posted on 2009/05/22 12:34
I had jury duty once. You need to be 18 to be called for jury duty, and I was called literally only 2 weeks after I turned 18 (I'm 28 now). I was put on a trial where we had to decide whether or not this dead beat dad (who was currently in prison) would have his parental rights terminated. Personally, I was kind of startled by how incompetent most of my fellow jurors were. It kind of makes me a little scared about what would happen if myself or someone I know was falsely accused of a crime. >_>
(ID #616549) Posted on 2009/05/22 12:43
Half Engineer, Half Student, All Robot
There was an article a little while back concerning a drug case in Australia. The trial was ruled a mistrial because most of the jury was playing Sudoku. I honestly don't believe many individuals are educated enough on the law to make any calls on legality.
(ID #616682) Posted on 2009/05/22 15:23
Student
I only want jury duty so I can get paid....
(ID #616562) Posted on 2009/05/22 13:01
Hotdog Repairman
Haha... you guys said "doody".
(ID #616564) Posted on 2009/05/22 13:03
Software Quality Engineer
LOL!!
(ID #618344) Posted on 2009/05/24 00:08
student, vexillologist
Having a jury of my peers > anything else. It's only one day out of a year for many people, so I don't find it much of a hassle. I am also glad the age is 20 and up, so folks are not snagged by school.
(ID #616565) Posted on 2009/05/22 13:04
DCX001-Prototype
Jury Duty should be from a group of qualified good citizen. Learning all these system from anime is much more easier ehh ^_^
(ID #616567) Posted on 2009/05/22 13:05
Actor, Moviemaker and Blogger.
We have jury duty here, but only if you inscribe yourself to the possibility of been called.
(ID #616581) Posted on 2009/05/22 13:17
Heh, I was selected as a possible juror myself but I haven't been called in yet. I agree it's a pain taking time out of your schedule for jury duty but I still feel that it's something that is needed in a legal system. But enough of that. I'm more interested in seeing some "fan works" of this jury anime XD
(ID #616600) Posted on 2009/05/22 13:37
If they used that here it would be more popular.
(ID #616615) Posted on 2009/05/22 13:59
There's also jury system in the US, and it's also required. Fortunately, ducking jury duty is rather easy; simply claim that you are biased in your view (for example, you're racist, sexist, discriminatory, have heard about the case, friends with the tried... etc)and you can get out of it. At first, I thought using anime to promote jury duty was going to be just a short commercial or poster with anime looking characters. It actually turned out to be quite a lengthy episode... That's awesome.
(ID #616621) Posted on 2009/05/22 14:21
Knight of the Republic
I would say 60-40... with the public hold the majority...
(ID #616624) Posted on 2009/05/22 14:24
> Folks who are against the jury duty system say that they don't want to decide whether people go to prison or get the death sentence. sa "hi" to Big Brother.
(ID #616625) Posted on 2009/05/22 14:24
The animation quality is pretty good to say first off. Second, jury duty could be seen as a privlege. Well atleast in my mind, the citzens are able to make the choice if they want to make their community safer or not.
(ID #616627) Posted on 2009/05/22 14:31
research student to be
don't really understand this. x_x but they make anime to introduce the system?! whoahh....
(ID #616644) Posted on 2009/05/22 14:43
Japan is only starting jury duty now?! Well I've never had one yet because I don't have a major job and don't have taxes, and I'm a student. I don't really know anyone who likes doing it.
(ID #616650) Posted on 2009/05/22 14:50
Now that's a way to advertise jury duty.
(ID #616652) Posted on 2009/05/22 14:50
Student, part-time Haruhi wannabe (that bit about godhood etc)
They should use Gyakuten Saiban instead:3
(ID #616661) Posted on 2009/05/22 14:58
They should do that to promote jury duty in the states :P The only time I ever got called was when the county I used to live in in NJ sent me a notification to my current NC address after I moved. Didn't have to go considering I didn't live in the state anymore. If the jury truly does have no bias or personal feelings on the issue, it's a good system, I think. I think the perfect jury would be hard to find, though -_-;
(ID #616662) Posted on 2009/05/22 14:58
Eroge blogger
The idea behind jury duty is good, but personally I wouldn't want to do it. I've already been "randomly chosen to be in a pool of individuals who -might- be called for jury duty". I understand it's important to do some minor checks before selecting the final 12, but it's time I don't want to spare. Luckily, I was a student out of town at the time, so I was excused. I have enough problems making decisions regarding my own life.
(ID #616666) Posted on 2009/05/22 15:05
Half Engineer, Half Student, All Robot
You first fill out a questionairre to determine your eligibility. Afterwards, they send you a summons. There are different levels of jury duty, petit and grand. Grand determines probable cause. In the American justice system, this means the jurors determine if the case should move to the next step in the process based on preliminary evidence presented by the DA (usually). Grand jurors serve for a longer term (I served 20 business days). Petit is what most people get. They call you in and either you wait around to find out you're not needed or you actually get assigned a case. If you're not needed, you get to go home. If they assign you a case, you have to go to the courthouse until a verdict is issued for the case. There are also multiple levels, local and federal. As a local juror, you serve the court for your area of residence. As a federal juror, you serve the federal court. I heard that federal grand jury is the worst since you miss the most work and things are more complicated. When we were briefed by the court officer, I believe that an employer can not punish you for jury duty. They are also required to compensate you for some duration of time. Afterwards, they are not required to compensate you (though most places of employment will with proper documentation). The court then takes over paying you. If you are unemployed, then the court just pays you from day one. In America, a valid excuse for deferring jury duty would be starting a new job or if you're a student. I wonder how strict it is in Japan.
(ID #616676) Posted on 2009/05/22 15:18
American jury duty barely pays enough to cover a lunch at Denny's. This might not be so bad for students or something, but for anyone who earns more than minimum wage jury duty would be a significant paycut.
(ID #616691) Posted on 2009/05/22 15:42
Student/Building a blog
Pas mal... But i still believe the selected citizens should enroll for it not forced to participate. And thos who enroll get some tax benefits or something in return for their service. What do you think?
(ID #616695) Posted on 2009/05/22 16:00
Network Administrator
Of course, in America, we have jury duty. I've done it many times, and I think its an important part of our legal system.
(ID #616702) Posted on 2009/05/22 16:13
Student/Otaku
I always try to avoid going to jury duty when possible... -____- I had to go in my first time up but thankfully I wasn't put into a trial which was good since it would've put a real dent on my summer vacation (was still in college at the time). I've received notifications twice but wasn't called in either times. It's especially hard when you receive notifications as a college student and you can't use your student status as an excuse. You have to postponed it usually during vacation time (which is not cool). It's just hard having to go into a courthouse in the morning and be put into a room filled with strangers and being asked questions about stuff. My mom always uses the 'I don't speak English' excuse to get out even though they have Tagalog translators now.. -__-
(ID #616703) Posted on 2009/05/22 16:14
Hm I believe we do not have that here... I'm glad we don't. I don't think you can judge on someones life, it just wouldn't feel right for myself if I wouldn't know all sides of the story.
(ID #616708) Posted on 2009/05/22 16:26
Student and full-time otaku
Such a waste of time. People can so easily be convinced of stuff, so imo a slick lawyer + an ad hoc jury does not by any means mean justice......that's why I'm so glad we don't have jury duty over here.
(ID #616715) Posted on 2009/05/22 16:34
Network Administrator
I'm curious, how does the court system work in the Netherlands? Is it just a judge deciding the case or...?
(ID #616717) Posted on 2009/05/22 16:40
Customer Service
Not sure about Netherland... but in most countries in South East Asia... it is normal that the judge will decide everything... no jury required... the judge is the boss...
(ID #616739) Posted on 2009/05/22 17:13
just as he said. its the same here in India. The judges are the boss.
(ID #617175) Posted on 2009/05/23 00:55
Student and full-time otaku
I believe the judge(s) reach a verdict based on what the prosecutors / lawyers presented during the trial. Usually it works ok.
(ID #616782) Posted on 2009/05/22 19:01
second that. It is too easy to manipulate people especially when they are emotionally attached to the topic. We don't have jury duty over here.
(ID #616872) Posted on 2009/05/22 21:32
I think it's important to involve citizens. However, it's even more important then to make sure that these people are varied and not all biased towards something. Only then can it be fair.
(ID #616725) Posted on 2009/05/22 17:04
Web Developer / Stand Up Comic
I did my first jury duty before I got out of college. I had to go to the courthouse every Monday for a month just to see if I would be sitting on jury for a case. I got picked for a couple of cases that went on for a couple of days a piece. Thankfully, they don't sequester jurors here in NH, so I got to go home every night. Unfortunately at the same time I was working an hourly job, so no reimbursement for me from the supermarket I was working for. I don't think it would be so bad next time around since I'm on salary.
(ID #616728) Posted on 2009/05/22 17:06
student
Jury duty sucks and is a big waste of time if you don't have to do anything for a day but I suppose that's necessary to protect the people since this is something the US fought for in the past. I just got summoned a couple of months ago and damn... I was bored to death. Good thing for my laptop.
(ID #616730) Posted on 2009/05/22 17:08
Student/Busboy/Otaku
I think the idea of having anime promote jury duty is a pretty smart idea. It's an entertaining and informative way to get a point across, and younger people would most likely be more inclined to learn that way than reading some text book or seeing regular people talk about it in a less entertaining fashion. I believe jury duty is both a good and bad thing. It has it's positives and negative that a lot of the comments above me have pointed out. I believe that a jury can make bad decisions and so can a judge, so having both in place balances out the system. It keeps the justice system from having too many corrupt/biased/etc. judges making decisions from there being only judges to decide court dealings. The amount of good and bad on both sides is just part of human nature and how it affects government. Personally, I would rather have a group of different people having to make a majority decision in my case, than just one judge. If I ever get the call to serve on a jury, I will gladly accept that call and serve with pride. It's my right as a citizen to do so, and I would feel honored to be a part of my government's judicial process. ^_^ Sure it may be a hassle, but nothing in life is easy, so you just deal with it and press on. So should Japan have jury duty? I don't know, but I feel the Japanese people should be the ones to decide it.
(ID #616732) Posted on 2009/05/22 17:10
Customer Service
I think they (Japanese Government) want to follow the American system - I always saw on TV where the big trials for certain big case were decided by some juries... Nothing bad about that... but I think punishing people for not willing to perform this duty when they're not up to it is not fair. To be a jury... one must be willing to take the burden and responsibility - not just being the jury for the sake of being forced by the government. We must not forget, some of the jury might worry about their safety specially if they have to be a jury in a trial for a big Yakuza boss.... I think we saw that in the Demi Moore's movie - The Juror... that is one of the possible thing that could happen and make people think properly before they decide to volunteer and be a jury. Imagine some people who feared to pay the expensive fine - and somehow after the long process they are accepted and then they will just go to the court and be a jury and make decision for the sake of doing it without properly thinking about the significance of the information, data and evidence presented during trials... the trial then wouldn't be fair... At the end, this should be better off as voluntary basis.. government can invite 10 to 100 and only select those who are really willing to take up the responsibility - provided that they pass the required selection criteria...
(ID #616735) Posted on 2009/05/22 17:11
After WW2 the Americans wrote a new constitution for Japan and no Japanese person had influence on what they wrote. As a result fundamental parts of the post imperialistic Japan have been copied from USA.
(ID #617346) Posted on 2009/05/23 03:50
we don't have jury duty in my country, that would be a fun experience but as a lot of ppl here said, it would be ok if there was a law that makes the employer pay yoou for the days spent on the jury bench and you get the time off to commit to yr case otherwise, it's stupid and a waste of yr time
(ID #616736) Posted on 2009/05/22 17:12
citizens should only be brought in this mess when required not when they are told or dragged of the street.
(ID #616752) Posted on 2009/05/22 17:37
If the aim is to judge with fair and unbiased people it probably doesn't work, were all biased at something. However creating variety in a jury can create a balanced group where ther individual biases are offset in which case it may work. I think it works, don't complain about the out come if you don't want to be appart of it. You had your chance to place your view so don't complain.
(ID #616759) Posted on 2009/05/22 17:56
High school student
Ohh, so many people have been called by jury duty. I have never imagined that it could involve so many people. We don't have jury duty in our country. There is only the judge and he decides everything, I think.
(ID #616791) Posted on 2009/05/22 19:17
Mechanical Engineering student
I actually want to become a part of a jury. But I think we don't have that here in the Philippines. Well, if we don't have it yet and the government does plan to create one, I hope that the Philippines would be in a more "stable" situation (aka not corrupt and poor anymore!) XD
(ID #616800) Posted on 2009/05/22 19:41
student
such privileges does not apply to people who are under age^^ SMACK!.. face slapped by some bunny girl passing by.. reminding me that I will be 18 in June.. should do a post about being smack by someone ...>.< Smack! my face hurts T.T
(ID #616813) Posted on 2009/05/22 19:54
have no idea what so ever of the justice system here........did go to a trial once some years ago when i was back in school and the court house was like across the road from there...........unfortunatly it wasnt a full blown proceeding,just something about a land dispute which the judge took care of under 5 mins.....i was like "what...thats it? =_=; "........ was hoping to here someone go "objection your honour!!"...but was very unsatisfied
(ID #616817) Posted on 2009/05/22 19:59
I'd hate to have my fate decided by jury. By definition a jury is comprised of people who are too dumb to get themselves dismissed from jury duty.
(ID #616888) Posted on 2009/05/22 21:52
Citizens I guess. So all the conspiracy in movies won't work :D
(ID #616891) Posted on 2009/05/22 21:55
remember a film runaway jury ???
(ID #616906) Posted on 2009/05/22 22:12
I think this should be optional to the citizens not forcing them to make such desicions :/
(ID #616947) Posted on 2009/05/22 22:42
Polytechnic Senior, Bronze Lifesaving Trainee, Mech Designer, Pokemon Indexer.
I don't know, it sounds rather dangerous to me... like if you owe some dude a few hundred greens... whoops LOL. But I'm sure that if the citizens get a chance to do jury duty, they should. Many cases are not what they seem and sometimes just reading the news and drawing a judgment is not enough.
(ID #616954) Posted on 2009/05/22 22:44
If you owe money to anybody in the case then you are disqualified to be part of the jury. I think it's illegal for you not to tell about this before the trial starts.
(ID #617332) Posted on 2009/05/23 03:42
well the idea of hearing the peoples words are good but the government has to be at the neutral side giving evidence just the way they are. we need to know too that sometimes the peoples decision is based on vengeance not objectivity
(ID #616964) Posted on 2009/05/22 22:51
I just got out of jury duty here in Canada - would affect me negatively as a freelancer. But, I'm certainly not opposed to jury duty. Kind of sucks though that you don't even get paid too.
(ID #617013) Posted on 2009/05/22 23:22
Correct me if I'm wrong Japan still has the death penalty? I recall Amnesty always listing them and Singapore (?) on their yearly "shame on you" list. If so what proportion of the Japanese public support the death penalty?
(ID #617028) Posted on 2009/05/22 23:32
The majority of the Japanese people support capital punishment when given for the right reasons (like murder). I read the actual number from an opinion poll and it was amazingly high, like 90%+ supported it. I can't remember the actual number though.
(ID #617328) Posted on 2009/05/23 03:40
The layman's judging system is hopelessly obsolete and an incredible affront to those who practice and study law. If there is going to be a jury then let it consist solely of people who have actually studied the law. Contrary to popular belief, a layman's jury is never unbiased. Instead they are influenced, in some cases to the extreme, by media from outside or other people's opinions in the event a court case has been made public. Furthermore a lay judge has an incredible vague notion of what's lawfully correct and what's not, because they have not studied law. In countries where the decision of a court is perceived as outrageous or in some way unacceptable among the general public, that public will protest and a higher court will review the case. This type of system is far more professional than the layman's judge system which is led more by emotion rather than reason. The notion of a layman's jury system having something to do with democracy is also not correct. Democracy is about a population choosing wise people from among them to lead that population. When I choose to have judges with years of experience with law to decide upon the fate of a criminal then I am more at comfort than when that same fate is decided by a bunch of noobs who may inadvertently unchain a vicious killing beast because he was good at acting or put away a young person until his deaths because he was too nervous to answer the questions with confidence. If for some reason I am ever drafted for jury duty I will either refuse by saying I am not qualified to provide such service, or I will 'decide' the defendant is not guilty whatever the case. The reason for which is, that a person is innocent until proven guilty and as I am -not qualified- to decide what facts are valuable or incriminating (even though certain guidelines try to make one think otherwise) I will not be able to condemn a person based on any decision I make, proving the defendant innocent by default. The layman's jury is far too close to anarchy for the likes of me.
(ID #617035) Posted on 2009/05/22 23:36
The judges takes care of the legal part. The jury's job is to first understand the law being used in the trial. They then listen to what the charge is (what the prosecutor thinks happened) and what the defence states as explanation. They also look at the evidence and the witnesses and then the question for the jury is if they believe the prosecutor have proven the defendant have done something the law in question declares illegal. So the point is that the jury will not state any legal statements. They only tell if the believe the case have proven that a person have done something they have been charged for.
(ID #617307) Posted on 2009/05/23 03:11
Hmm...so far...we haven't implemented it yet...i think...
(ID #617054) Posted on 2009/05/22 23:46
According to Amnesty Internationals website last year Singapore executed 1 person and Japan 15 !!! The numbers for Asia are not pretty. http://www.amnesty.org/en/death-penalty/death-sentences-and-executions-in-2008/asia
(ID #617071) Posted on 2009/05/22 23:55
It looks to me like Amnesty Internationals wants to prevent punishment of anybody nomatter what they have done. Here they talk about executions but they also talk about jailing people for life as something bad. Sometimes it's just jailing people in general. The statistics in this case shows that Singapore executed one person and they claim this is wrong. However such an information isn't good enough on it's own because it didn't tell why this person was executed. Maybe it was some guy who killed people for enjoyment and nomatter what you do he will most likely do it again. In such a case the legal system will have to decide who is most important: this man or his next victim. There were a case in the media a few years back. Some guy had been in prison for 10+ years for 2 murders. He was supposed to stay in jail for the rest of his life because he was mentally disturbed and would likely kill again, but all this human rights stuff made somebody decide to release him because they had to release somebody due to lack of prison cells. Now he is jailed again for killing an additional 3 people. Surprisingly some people still think it's wrong that he should spend the rest of his life in jail. Today we can see the result of lack of punishment of the people who commit crimes, which hurt other people, ruin their lifes and so on. Otherwise lawful people takes matters into their own hands and beat up or even kill people. It should go without saying that the right solution would be a legal system which protects lawful people against crinimal people, specially criminal people who repeats crime.
(ID #617296) Posted on 2009/05/23 02:44
Internet Communcations/Design Student
We have Jury Duty in Australia. I personally can't wait and hope to be selected. The court room is facinating. My mother was selected last year, but was able to get out of it.
(ID #617094) Posted on 2009/05/23 00:10
Because of the Japanese PM, so they use anime to educate citizen? LOL Also have a new NDS game "The Saibanin" come out to day, it also part of the plan? What a country to educate their citizen ! Anime, moe girl and game! EXCELLENT!!!
(ID #617267) Posted on 2009/05/23 02:04
Dental Technician, i make teeth!
Citizens shpuld decode but would be hell having to put someone to death, really Goverment can't be trusted but i ain't one of those basement people.
(ID #617306) Posted on 2009/05/23 03:11
I just recently went to jury duty. Its two days in the state of RI. Before when I got the registration I said I was a student and it would interrupt my studies. It did I missed classes for two days. Then was called on a seat for a murder trail of a mother who killed her child. The case would of been an estimation of 6 weeks. I got out of it though because I thought I knew a witness. Turns out it was a person who works at the same place with the same name. That was my experience.
(ID #617315) Posted on 2009/05/23 03:23
working to pay for figures etc.
Jury service is theoretically compulsory in the UK, if you are ever called up - I only know one person who was. You normally get expenses from the court. It's only used in criminal cases.
(ID #617376) Posted on 2009/05/23 04:35
I like the fact that the anime people are all students because obviously jury duty should be explained properly by kids who have no experience with it.
(ID #617857) Posted on 2009/05/23 13:53
I'm pretty sure only people registered to vote are required to serve in jury duty. (In other words... since I'm not registered its not my problemxD) Meh... I think Jury duty is pretty low on the problems with the American Legal system.
(ID #618676) Posted on 2009/05/24 07:28
Motel Front Desk
I am not well read on Japan's judicial system or constitution. In the United States, trial by jury is a right that is used constantly day in and day out. So when I first heard the news, I thought "That sounds like a good idea, but I've seen that outside factors as well as the 'crowd mentality' of the Japanese could do more harm than good." in the sense of a person accused of a crime to get a fair and balanced view. Still, it is good on the government's part to try to inform the people of what's going on. It'll just take time for them to get accustomed too. Citizens should take responsibility for citizens with the government as a mediator, in my opinion. The quote, "Folks who are against the jury duty system say that they don't want to decide whether people go to prison or get the death sentence." really irks me in that it seems that those with this opinion do not want the responsibility or duty of this very serious issue. It should not be a question of want or do not want for in the United States, many do not want to serve but they do because that is a core principle of our judicial system. From what I gather, the Japanese seem to have a very complacent view on certain issues and vastly radical views on others. Citizens involvement in trials should be something to rally behind, I would think. Does the Japanese school system have something akin to Social Studies courses in America like Civics? I would assume so but that's how I learned the ins and outs of the government and legal system. If they start teaching this new addition of jury trials maybe the transition for the next generation won't be so bad.
(ID #618698) Posted on 2009/05/24 08:07
university film student
Oh wow. I think you're the first to raise the issue of the Japanese's crowd mentality. This is suddenly much more worrisome. You're right. It definitely isn't a good thing. Especially since the point of a jury is such that if even one decides "not guilty" the guy goes free. If it seems like everyone else on the jury is leaning towards guilty, that one man will be very easily pressured to say the same even if he doesn't believe it.
(ID #624285) Posted on 2009/05/28 18:09
I actually don't mind going to jury duty because my employer pays me as if I was at work. Everytime I've reported to jury duty I don't end up getting put on an actual case and most of the time I just sit in the waiting room for the entire day and listen to my mp3 player/play DS.
(ID #618886) Posted on 2009/05/24 11:59
maintenence
At my age, I've been called twice in IL, once in MI. Served twice. First time was in Chicago. I Had to report for a full week in the downtown metro area at the Daley Center.Almost served on a medical malpractice trial, but was dismissed due to having a similar surgery that the malpractice was about. (Not the same doctor, fortunately, otherwise I might have claimed class action!) End of that week, I was shuttled to traffic court with the others that hadn't been called. I loved the traffic judge! We sat in the jury box while the judge would pop in every 15 to 20 minutes and say that our presence alone was deciding many cases that evening! Basically the defendants didn't want to take a chance on a jury that had to wait all week long! But in the end we had to sit for a trial, which went rather quickly. And we all found the buggar guilty! The second time was in a Chicago suburb. The whole group of us were dismissed by noon. The state had instituted a one day, one jury policy. So I dodged the bullet there, so to speak. The third time was after I moved to Michogan. Served on a child molestation case. That lasted a week. There were three charges against a man living with a woman with two daughters. We found him guilty of one of three counts. It was an uncomfortable trial for me, but at least it wasn't a murder case. The jury system was set up in the US expressly for checks and balances. It's part of the reason we elect new leaders every four years. Also why we elect judges as well. It's a necessity behind government "Of the People, By the People, and For the People". Most democratic nations are run this way in theory. Of course socialism likes to creep it's way in after a while due to people that can't be bothered with participating in the governmental process of elections and jury duty.
(ID #621017) Posted on 2009/05/26 03:33
Lackey but should be a Graphic Designer
i rad about this a few days ago on the ol' anime news network site. i swear there's an anime/manga about everything, hell even Field Hockey, yeah Field Hockey :o
(ID #623560) Posted on 2009/05/28 06:42
Pseudo-Graphic Designer, 太もも Appreciator
Some people do skip jury duty here. My dad got a jury duty summons recently, but he wasn't picked. He wasn't disappointed either :P
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