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And this is the new category page for the articles - new one on the right and old one on the left. The right is the new Mirai Gaia platform 2 column template.

Wanted your feedback on two things:-
1.What do you expect to see when you click on a category such as "figures" ? Most blogs present you with a stack of 10 or so posts and then send you to the next page.
I generate thumbnails from each post automatically and display them in a grid view which has been great for discoverability so far.
But the current category page (example here) has too many thumbnails. My observations have been that when there is too much info presented to a user for the first time, they take longer deciding what to click on and the likely hood of that user staying on decreases.
2.which leads me to the second question - how many thumbnails do you think is just right and how many is too much?
Posted on 2008/03/28 12:17
Danny Choo in Tokyo
Director/代表取締役
Registered on 2006/12/11 11:06
Evo_Spec in Alberta, Canada
Registered on 2007/10/21 13:13
when i click on a category i expect to see the latest things, and possibly the most popular items in term a figures and such,
i think 20-30 thumnails is just about right.
(ID #162832) Posted on 2008/03/28 12:23
Hirito in The Little Red Dot - Singapore
ORD!! Now awaiting Uni admission.
Registered on 2007/09/01 18:24
I'm not sure for others, but usually I prefer having as much information presented to me on the first screen I go, rather than to keep clicking "next page" over and over. But the only problem with that, it'll increase the loading time. Maybe about 30 thumbnails would be just nice.
(ID #162834) Posted on 2008/03/28 12:29
D_Blade in Montreal
Non-profit org. volunteering work addict
Registered on 2006/12/31 22:48
25 is fine to me (cool number as well).
A number below 20 will bring dozens of pages to browse and one above 30 or 40 will clog the page and assuredly bring slowdown.
(So basically I agree with Evo_Spec)
(ID #162836) Posted on 2008/03/28 12:32
Danny Choo in Tokyo
Director/代表取締役
Registered on 2006/12/11 11:06
Nice new avatar ^^
(ID #162841) Posted on 2008/03/28 12:46
D_Blade in Montreal
Non-profit org. volunteering work addict
Registered on 2006/12/31 22:48
Thank you. This was the "sleeping" one. The current one is the "normal" one...
And I intend to switch to each other depending on if I am asleep or awake. Tedious maybe, but priceless. ^^
(Commment will be wrong/right one half of the time, depending on the avatar and current time)
(ID #162920) Posted on 2008/03/28 17:59
Glasseyelashes in Oklahoma
Photography
Registered on 2007/11/01 15:55
i agree. though watching makes me sleepy. i think i'll just lay my head down annnd..................................................
(ID #162844) Posted on 2008/03/28 13:01
D_Blade in Montreal
Non-profit org. volunteering work addict
Registered on 2006/12/31 22:48
Hey, don't snooze just now! There are still much to do to save this world!
*laughs*
(ID #162921) Posted on 2008/03/28 18:00
Benjamin Takeyo in Lieu de la batille decisive
ひきこもり/Hikikomori. Suits my current state more than a 大学生/University Student. ^^
Registered on 2007/12/04 23:16
Agree, too. 25 seems the right spot.
(ID #162871) Posted on 2008/03/28 14:37
Hakushaku in US(United Shame)
In Insanity Hell
Registered on 2008/03/13 03:33
Agree to 25 to 30...my internet is slow...
(ID #162837) Posted on 2008/03/28 12:35
Hyun-Bin in Sydney Australia / Busan Korea
Sterilization Technician@ Prince Of Wales Hospital
Registered on 2007/01/09 22:47
hey Danny 
this is looking great :)
by the way , was wondering
you going to add like a Unicode for your site?

for those who have phones with Unicode-Barcode readers :D?
(ID #162838) Posted on 2008/03/28 12:36
Jotham in Los Angeles, CA
Student
Registered on 2008/03/08 16:19
yup i agree with the 20-30 thumbnails. Seems just about right.
(ID #162842) Posted on 2008/03/28 12:47
Leo in San Francisco
Email & Network Support/Administration
Registered on 2006/12/24 16:42
I think somewhere around the 30 mark is fine. I think no less than 25 and no more than 35 
(ID #162847) Posted on 2008/03/28 13:08
Martin Wandering in Taibei
Student, Spiral Warrior
Registered on 2008/02/04 10:01
What would the numbers be like if the first page displayed the relevant results by month or week? Would there be too many/too few items that way?

That aside, 30-ish sounds fine.
(ID #162848) Posted on 2008/03/28 13:14
Akiba-Kid in California, USA
Online Shop
Registered on 2008/01/17 11:35
I think 20 thumbnails are okay but anything more might be too much.
(ID #162849) Posted on 2008/03/28 13:16
wickedclown in California, USA
Otaku, Computer tech, Student
Registered on 2007/12/07 21:33
I think exactly 21 thumbnails per caregory.  Atm I see 7 across and a lot down, I think 7 across and 3 down per category (one being Figure Review and the other being Figure Events) is perfect.
(ID #162850) Posted on 2008/03/28 13:25
ornehx in Penang, Malaysia
dannychoo.com no aidokusha
Registered on 2007/12/25 23:02
@danny would it be possible to let the readers customize the number of thumbnails they want to see? something sort of like your Hide Comments stuff..
give a choice of like 10, 20, 30, all...
(ID #162851) Posted on 2008/03/28 13:49
Danny Choo in Tokyo
Director/代表取締役
Registered on 2006/12/11 11:06
Was not thinking of having this as an option due to the need of having to cache extra pages server side. Maybe if the results turn ajax though.
(ID #162855) Posted on 2008/03/28 14:09
ornehx in Penang, Malaysia
dannychoo.com no aidokusha
Registered on 2007/12/25 23:02
just cache it as cookie at client side?
for those who normally clear cookie and disabled cookie, just too bad..

just a thought though...its been a while i got my hands messy with codings so i am not sure how complex it would be for you..
(ID #162924) Posted on 2008/03/28 18:06
Neil Duckett in Yoyogi, Tokyo
Software Engineer
Registered on 2007/11/06 13:37
20 to 30 seems about right to me. Depending on how many thumbs you have across too as i'd like to pretty much see them all on one page without scrolling.

The current 7x gives you between 3 and 4 rows without needing to scroll = 21 to 28 (stating the obvious)
(ID #162856) Posted on 2008/03/28 14:10
ornehx in Penang, Malaysia
dannychoo.com no aidokusha
Registered on 2007/12/25 23:02
yea good point is
that the readers do not need to scroll to see all and thumbnails are large enough without straining one's eyes (real eyes).
(ID #162926) Posted on 2008/03/28 18:07
D_Blade in Montreal
Non-profit org. volunteering work addict
Registered on 2006/12/31 22:48
Dang, I wanted to corner you (in putting a lame pun ever again)... Guess you've made the distinction clearly... or maybe not. *Dark grin*
...So you mean there are fake eyes? Ocular prosthetics (glass/plastic eyes)? Silicon implants? Which is which? where are they placed? How much do they cost? Are there any risk?
Ahhhhhh!! 
...
*Mad & evil scientist's laugh*
(ID #162934) Posted on 2008/03/28 18:58
ornehx in Penang, Malaysia
dannychoo.com no aidokusha
Registered on 2007/12/25 23:02
well if the thumbnails are too small, one with large eyes may need to lean forward to see the thumbnails...
this would incidentally cause one's large eyes to be squeeze hard against the table thus causin execessive strain or tension upon the eyes....=p
(ID #162969) Posted on 2008/03/28 20:33
Gubinodo in France
Still wondering...
Registered on 2007/12/30 01:17
Agreed~~
(ID #162988) Posted on 2008/03/28 21:47
Henry in Makati, Philippines
anime/cosplay events organizer
Registered on 2006/12/25 19:17
i think 10-20 thumbnails per page is imo the ideal number and arrange chronologically where new posts are on the first page ^^
(ID #162870) Posted on 2008/03/28 14:35
Registered on 2006/12/24 23:42
just a thought, why not have 20 or more thumbs stacked and show a few lines from your post. similar to what you have on otaku.fm?
(ID #162882) Posted on 2008/03/28 14:56
Spot in Colombia
Registered on 2008/02/09 02:13
i think that should show the most recents, the most viewed and the more commented, and should be 10 items each
(ID #162892) Posted on 2008/03/28 15:31
unknown gear in Earth
gear
Registered on 2008/02/10 09:45
18-24 (3 to 4 rows) sounds okay in my opinion. That picture (right pic) looks more user friendly (easier to navigate and easier on the page load).
(ID #162894) Posted on 2008/03/28 15:46
Ikari Ryuujin in Malaysian
Web Designer
Registered on 2007/10/26 17:18
i think about 28 thumbs per individual sub category should suffice. (4 rows)

anything more than 6 rows will take longer for users to scroll. 

my screen resolution is 1280x1024
(ID #162899) Posted on 2008/03/28 16:13
jojo mcjo in New Jersey, USA
IT Field Op.
Registered on 2007/06/20 23:15
25 to 30 thumbnails seems like the way to go.  I prefer to page through selections than scrolling through all the content.
(ID #162901) Posted on 2008/03/28 16:17
Timotei in Sweden
NEET
Registered on 2008/02/17 09:28
I'm with a few here, 25-30 is fine. I'm sure it will be really awesome, can't wait.  
(ID #162955) Posted on 2008/03/28 19:51
gordon in 新加坡 Singapore
宅男 Otaku/ 工程师 Engineer
Registered on 2007/06/11 14:57
25 in 5x5 format is the best. a square format will let readers be more focused when looking at the thumbnails. 
(ID #162977) Posted on 2008/03/28 21:12
Atrus in the land of Oz
Student (for-ev-er)
Registered on 2008/02/21 08:37
Of course the biggest problem is trying to present the most relevant information to the user who is observing the page.  That's a tricky one.  I wonder how much help a search bar would be.

Kinda aside, always wanted a way to track my comments and comments made to my comments by others from my profile page.  That would be cool.
(ID #162989) Posted on 2008/03/28 21:49
Hangmen13 in Sabah, Malaysia
Aimless Traveler
Registered on 2007/04/21 21:19
Would be nice if users can manually download thumbnails for their latest post items.
(ID #163005) Posted on 2008/03/28 22:17
Hangmen13 in Sabah, Malaysia
Aimless Traveler
Registered on 2007/04/21 21:19
Upload, I mean. I'm still unsure why my post won't show up in thumbnails. Didn't break Rule 1, 2, and 3 that you list.
(ID #163006) Posted on 2008/03/28 22:22
FatBastard in over his head
Meat Puppet
Registered on 2007/11/04 18:16
Yep, 25-30 seems good to me
(ID #163016) Posted on 2008/03/28 22:48
kaeze in Melbourne, Australia, Earth
Illustrator & Designer
Registered on 2007/04/09 18:37
1. I expect to see when I click on a category a stack of thumbnails of the most recent and/or popular posts in that category.  So you can sort either by date, sort by most commented and/or sort by most viewed.

2. I think a stack of 20-30 thumbnails would be just right.  over 50 would be way too much.

Also, just a suggestion if it's possible, it would be nice if when you hover over each thumbnail you get a quick summary or the first sentence of that posts.

To be honest, I hardly ever go to each category and read the posts that way nowadays, but I did do that when I was a new reader here.  I guess as a new reader, I tend to like to read it like I'd read a blog I just found, I'd go back as far as possible and "catch up"!
(ID #163041) Posted on 2008/03/28 23:56
gurugurutrex in Vancouver, B.C., Canada
オタク by moonlight, Graphic Designer by daylight
Registered on 2007/11/08 03:37
I think the user should be able to customize how many thumbnails that they want to see. I think 30-40 is good.
(ID #163057) Posted on 2008/03/29 01:30
Kazearashi in Indonesia --> Singapore
Animation Student
Registered on 2008/03/10 13:26
I'd vote for 20-30 thumbnails, it's about right.
(ID #163063) Posted on 2008/03/29 01:43
gashbell in The abyss
Visualizer, Advertising
Registered on 2007/08/26 02:35
I prefer a clean layout after clicking the figure icon. Make it less crowded there. I tried before launching your site on a 14" laptop and it take some effort to scroll down right to the bottom page where all the thumbnails end. If you get any time outs during this, you have to refresh the page and start all over again. For those who are using mega sized monitors like 24" or plasma tvs, there wont be any problems. You can sub categorised them into company brands in a form of banner or icon with the scroll down options when you click on them. It works with text but not sure you can insert thumbnails into it. It should save some loading time here.
(ID #163088) Posted on 2008/03/29 03:26
lostandfound in a UFO... catcher...
Part human, part student, 100% loser
Registered on 2007/10/22 02:10
25 thumbnails would be best and make it 5x5. Symmetry at its best~
(ID #163158) Posted on 2008/03/29 08:53
Mischa in Oita
Programmer
Registered on 2008/03/14 14:37
Totally unrelated, but what is the app in your dock to right of Firefox??
(ID #163239) Posted on 2008/03/29 11:35
Danny Choo in Tokyo
Director/代表取締役
Registered on 2006/12/11 11:06
Its Adium - my IM client that supports yahoo, msn, gmail etc etc
(ID #163351) Posted on 2008/03/29 20:03
Mischa in Oita
Programmer
Registered on 2008/03/14 14:37
Adium? My icon looks like a green bird!? Never mind...
(ID #163738) Posted on 2008/03/30 14:24
Danny Choo in Tokyo
Director/代表取締役
Registered on 2006/12/11 11:06
Thanks all for the feedback. Looks like around 30 is what I should go for.
(ID #163353) Posted on 2008/03/29 20:04
pp in Singapore
Army
Registered on 2007/07/10 20:22
It would be nice to assume everyone is on boardband or fast internet but even if everyone is. having 30 thumbnails would be an information overload , maybe 10-15 would be just about right.
(ID #163383) Posted on 2008/03/29 21:29
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