Mon 2009/01/05 20:52
Some more Hikikomori news. A mother leaves home with their eldest daughter after not being able to bear life living with her 35 year old son who has become a hikikomori. The father of the household (aged 64) had been making dinner for their son for ten years. The son started to become a hikikomori after graduating from university. He was able to get to interviews but never actually employed by anyone. The son would get angry after getting home - "Why does it never go well for me?!" He broke the TV, smashed glass and threw their pet around the garden. The sons anger would always start with dinner being served to him. He would complain about the taste, throw the table and demand his father to kneel down before him to apologize. After his father made the sons lunch and left for work, the son would call his father at work and demand that lunch be re made for him. On a day off, his father seeked places like the horse racing grounds and the seashore where he would go to watch the sunset. He would also stay away from home in a manga cafe and wait until his son slept before he went home. In the end, his father started to rent another place to live and only went back to his real home to make food for his son... The depressing news from mainichi. What advice would you have for the son and father? Tidy hikikomori(?) room image from a previous post
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that son of his needs a smacking that is all.
(ID #436372) Posted on 2009/01/05 21:15
Daigakusei [Consular and Diplomatic Affairs]
not just a smack but a serious beating~ what a lousy good for nothing son that he is~ he oughtta be ashamed of himself and his actions~
(ID #436445) Posted on 2009/01/05 22:45
I agree with duffman, Beat his ass! Then kick him out. Only allow him to take his clothes and sell his figures, posters, and animes. besides that, he's 35, why is he living at home with mom and dad?
(ID #436687) Posted on 2009/01/06 01:25
Student
Well you may be surprised that this kind of thing is happening in more and more countries but not to this level of extreme. Nowadays sons and daughters are living longer with their parents because they can't get a job and their income even graduated from university isn't good enough to afford a house to live even with a girlfriend or a boyfriend. Unfortunately I know some people like this and it shows a lot in the news, this is a reality we have to live with in future days
(ID #436769) Posted on 2009/01/06 03:17
university film student
I feel that I should mention there is no mention of him being an otaku. It's doubtless that a lot of otaku approach hikkikomori status (and vice versa), and Danny himself posted an otaku room as the image. But to simply assume one equals the other just makes the otaku stereotype even worse than it already is. I can't read the full mainichi article, but it seems like this guy has anger issues, chronic depression and is mentally unstable, but little to do with anime or figures.
(ID #436809) Posted on 2009/01/06 04:02
university film student
(Comment got eaten. ><) Anyway, I feel I should point out that there is no mention of him being an otaku anywhere. It's doubtless that a lot of otaku approach hikikomori status, and vice versa, but to simply assume that just makes the otaku image worse than it already is. I can't read the mainichi article, but it seems to me that - while this guy has anger issues, chronic depression and mental instability - he has little to do with anime or figures.
(ID #436815) Posted on 2009/01/06 04:05
Sorry I was goign off the picture above.
(ID #436827) Posted on 2009/01/06 04:21
university film student
Ahaha, no need to apologize. Danny posted an otaku room image after all, and I just felt I should mention that. ...I mentioned this in my oirignal comment too. Forgot to type that second time around...
(ID #436949) Posted on 2009/01/06 07:47
Blogger & Former Tentacle Support
I agree, FlashFire! Even being a freeter is better than holing (is that how you spell it?) yourself up in your room, for srsly. It would be different if he was actively looking for a job. Heck, most jobs have you apply online anyway so he doesn't even have to leave his room.
(ID #436983) Posted on 2009/01/06 08:37
College student, Software Engineer, Otaku
definitely a beating is needed but also a scolding gwad, we should be breaking down his door and raiding him so that he freaking learns
(ID #436689) Posted on 2009/01/06 01:26
Yea really! He needs to stop feeling sorry for himself.
(ID #437685) Posted on 2009/01/06 18:35
Ha. That's the first thing I thought of smack him silly.
(ID #437032) Posted on 2009/01/06 09:45
just leave him alone, so after he realize all of his family gone he will change by itself but the power of loving parents is really amazing ,if it's for me i already let him starve to death decade ago
(ID #542094) Posted on 2009/03/30 22:29
Father should given that guy the beating of a lifetime, guess he's a bit too old though. just kick him out the house and let him fend for himself
(ID #436385) Posted on 2009/01/05 21:26
Self Employee NEET
That son need to get spanked WITH A SPIKEY WOODEN BAT!!! That is the most worthless hikimori I ever heard. If I was his family member, I already beat him up with my bared hand and foot until I get bleed on and running out of power to smack his head in order to teach him an unforgettable lesson about respecting parents
(ID #436386) Posted on 2009/01/05 21:28
Lets see, my parents never struck me once and I respect them and we get along quite well. I know many friends who parents beat the shit out of them and they don't like their parents anymore. Now you might just be exaggerating since the story clearly upsets you, but regardless violence is unnecessary. And aren't you a NEET?....or you just like the tag under your name.
(ID #436732) Posted on 2009/01/06 02:07
I am a NEET but I have never treated my parents with such direspect and I am only 18 years old and I dont think I will be a NEET all my life (Its only been 7 months since I became a NEET) well maybe if I win the lottery. That guy defienetly needs to be tought some maners either pacefully or with force, if I was the father I would of done it a long time ago. NEET ¡= Hikikomori
(ID #436775) Posted on 2009/01/06 03:21
Sounds to me like someone should have kicked your ass a bit. What are you some new wave hippy child? Yeah, sometimes the only way to get a point across is to kick some ass. Call me old fashioned if you want but everyones heard the saying "Spare the rod, spoil the child" well theres an adaptation of it out there. It goes, "Break the rod, spank the child". I was spanked, and I respect my parents. In fact i admire how they raised me. Spanking was always a last resort never the first alternative. My entire family was raised like this, and we're probably some of the emotionally strongest people you'll ever meet. We fear no man and will stand for what we think is right. So go ahead and raise your children your way. I'll spank my children when its necessary. Dont call it abuse because spankign and abuse are two entirely different things.
(ID #436793) Posted on 2009/01/06 03:44
Programmer/IT/Student
There is no need for violence, but you would be surprised how well a smack across the face would work. Children need to be taught to respect their parent's when they're young, otherwise they could turn out like this guy. I know my mom smacked me on many occasions, and after enough of it I realized that I needed to respect her, so my relationship with my parents is just fine, even though I got smacked a few times.
(ID #436904) Posted on 2009/01/06 06:19
The line between "violence" and "discipline" sometimes seem fine, but there is a huge difference. This guy in the story should have been disciplined more by his parents to learn how to respect. Some parents, including mine, used physical discipline, and I believe that is the right way to go. While others don't believe that sort of discipline is the answer, they need to find some way to teach their kids respect, through discipline. That's my opinion anyway. Oh, and that picture is crazy!
(ID #436936) Posted on 2009/01/06 07:09
Speak for yourself. I was beat plenty as a child and I'm as close as I can be to my father. I don't blame him for anything because I sincerely believe it was a form of discipline that worked. It's a case by case thing though. You can't really generalize corporal punishment.
(ID #437113) Posted on 2009/01/06 10:59
My father beat me too but he wasn't as bad as my grandfather to him. I think that it is the matter of attention if children respect their parents or not. Violence is used because the lack of words/ it is the fast and easy way to rise a child. Respect is something that you have to earn and it isn't a synonym for fear. You should ask yourself if you rise your kids with violence, will they have a happy childhood? We have a saying here: "Good children grow without the rod".
(ID #463443) Posted on 2009/01/27 03:50
Web Designer
Hahaha... did you think you can beat him? He didn't respect his parents, did you think he can't beat you? No no... the first thing he would do is kill you before you can reach him. As long as you still have respect with your parents or other people, you can not beat someone who don't have any. Why? Because he didn't react with his brain. He reacts with instinct... just like a hunger tiger in the forest. That guy need psychiatric not another violance act.
(ID #437551) Posted on 2009/01/06 15:48
Father should given that guy the beating of a lifetime, guess he's a bit too old though. just kick him out the house and let him fend for himself
(ID #436387) Posted on 2009/01/05 21:28
Self Employee NEET
That son need to get spanked WITH A SPIKEY WOODEN BAT!!! That is the most worthless hikimori I ever heard. If I was his family member, I already beat him up with my bared hand and foot until I get bleed on and running out of power to smack his head in order to teach him an unforgettable lesson about respecting parents
(ID #436388) Posted on 2009/01/05 21:31
Father should give that guy the beating of a lifetime, guess the dads a bit too old though. just kick him out the house and let him fend for himself
(ID #436390) Posted on 2009/01/05 21:34
I don't blame the mother to have left. Maybe the father should do the same. With his support gone, at least there's a slim chance that the son will change.
(ID #436393) Posted on 2009/01/05 21:38
Ways to cure a hikikomori from NHK ni youkoso STARVE HIM!
(ID #436397) Posted on 2009/01/05 21:43
DCX001-Prototype
yea, the exact scene happened to the sister who were taking care of her hikky-bro in "Welcome to NHK", this anime had perfectly reflect the social problem of NEET.
(ID #436410) Posted on 2009/01/05 21:55
Agreed!
(ID #436413) Posted on 2009/01/05 21:57
And cut his internet and everything ==...and let him make his own living/food. hes 35 ffs
(ID #436434) Posted on 2009/01/05 22:28
If he is a hikiko then do he read Danny's news ? ;)
(ID #436723) Posted on 2009/01/06 02:00
Game Designer
Cut the internet? *shivers at the thought*
(ID #437073) Posted on 2009/01/06 10:34
Pseudo-Graphic Designer, 太もも Appreciator
That'll definitely bring him out :P
(ID #437242) Posted on 2009/01/06 12:46
Ninja / Engineer / Sensei / 魔法少女 (What!?! I can't be, I'm a guy...)
Yes, this is the simple answer. No food, no nothing and we'll see how long he can stand being a hikki. He'll change quick once he realizes they are no longer providing for him.
(ID #436897) Posted on 2009/01/06 06:11
Currently Serving National Service
Who the hell does the Son think he is? His parents paid for all his education to get to a university and this is how he treat them back? He must have been spoil to the core since he was young and muz not have suffered any punishment before for all his wrong doings. Makes my blood boil to the extend that I wanna fly over there and drag him out of his house and give him a good beating.
(ID #436395) Posted on 2009/01/05 21:39
Student
Quite the depressing news. The 35 year old sounds like he's cracked and needs help. His father sounds admirable and responsible for putting up with such treatment from his son all this time. Perhaps they should seek help from the social workers?
(ID #436399) Posted on 2009/01/05 21:44
Dog of the Country
i'm not sure.. but as a dad, he should be the one educating his own children. from what i can see, his wife was able to lead his daughter into living a normal life, one that is non-hikikomori, nor NEET. However, being the man of the house, he is not able to do so, like his wife. Shouldn't he be tough and not be a pushover? I truly wonder how he tolerated the shit for 10yrs. I know i can't. If my son ever becomes something like that ignorant shit, i will call the police, have him in jail, and let him reflect his actions. As for the son, WAKE UP YOUR IDEA!! i remember my school's lecturer telling me that it took him one and a half years before he finally got employed after graduating from university (or some other institute.)
(ID #436400) Posted on 2009/01/05 21:46
That's why. Maybe his parents have some responsibility in this case as they just let the son do whatever he wants. They should know he is destroying his life. EDUCATE him and not let him rot. And the son, 35 years old still can't think? Everyone faces different kind of difficulties. It's not as if he is the only one who lead a miserable life. =.=
(ID #436453) Posted on 2009/01/05 22:56
That is one 35 year old kid.
(ID #436477) Posted on 2009/01/05 23:12
Whoa whoa whoa, you sound as if you think the man is only responsible for the boys and the woman for girls. I'm pretty sure it is a cooperative arrangement lmao. And to imply that the father failed becuase the daughter is "assumed" to be normal. I think you are drawing to inappropriate conclusion from assumed info here. And your solutions to your own children's problems "call police" hahaha. How about raise them properly so those types of problems don't arise.
(ID #436720) Posted on 2009/01/06 02:00
He is a real ass to the core man. I won't harp on stuff that the others have said but his dad is still spoiling him (even to the end) thus making the situation worse. If it were my dad, he'd throw that bowl of lunch at my face already! Maybe its because the more traditional parents are more... erm strict?
(ID #436401) Posted on 2009/01/05 21:47
It takes 2 hands to clap. In this case both the son and the parents were wrong. Just my 2 cents!
(ID #436403) Posted on 2009/01/05 21:48
Corporate Attorney, Part-time Musician, and Otaku Extraordinaire
Eh? This guy wouldn't even be able to live that lifestyle without his parents. He should be thankful that they care (or did care) enough about him to help him out. The father should just not make food and stop paying for that house that his son is living in. The son will have to do something about it eventually.
(ID #436402) Posted on 2009/01/05 21:47
DCX001-Prototype
that sonuva $#*$@#! The family should have let their son rot, as no foods is supply to that rat, eventually he's leave the house & start searching for food & money. I recall this scene in "Welcome To NHK" & it works effectively! very saddening news indeed..........
(ID #436404) Posted on 2009/01/05 21:48
Student
The son needs to be disciplined. Doing such things at your own father is really disrespectful. Maybe the son won't stop being a hikikomori thinking that his father does whatever he asks him and that is so wrong.
(ID #436405) Posted on 2009/01/05 21:50
DCX001-Prototype
that son must be slap in the face like the one in your avatar ^^
(ID #436412) Posted on 2009/01/05 21:56
Polytechnic Senior, Bronze Lifesaving Trainee, Mech Designer, Pokemon Indexer.
No, he needs to have the German suplex hold performed on him like what Kaname did to Sousuke. XD
(ID #436490) Posted on 2009/01/05 23:27
DCX001-Prototype
your avatar is back~~~~ now with Kira enhanced, moe sugiru~~~~ XD
(ID #436662) Posted on 2009/01/06 01:03
I agree with everyone. A parental tag team beatdown is a must!
(ID #436406) Posted on 2009/01/05 21:51
Depressing indeed. I do wonder though about the lack of respect of the son, and how his parents can bear his behaviour.
(ID #436408) Posted on 2009/01/05 21:52
Student & Authorized Chicken Slapper
I personally have nothing against hikkimoris and all that but this one needs to be kicked out and left to die for the way hes acting.
(ID #436411) Posted on 2009/01/05 21:55
"If you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all" is what I'm saying right now to myself... Argh. Ungrateful wretch should learn to blame himself for all his problems which he himself caused.
(ID #436420) Posted on 2009/01/05 22:03
The boy needs some intention to the parents (A bit talk,and some tender loving care) But if he/she doesn't change his manners...Give something never forget of all (means punch in face or kick his ass or throw in the door,etc)..
(ID #436421) Posted on 2009/01/05 22:04
Full time nerd
What the father needs to do is to open a can of whoop ass on his pathetic excuse of a son and send him to camp "re-fu-gee" (family guy reference)
(ID #436422) Posted on 2009/01/05 22:12
I say the father should do what that woman in "H.H.K. ni Youkoso" did. Her brother was a hikikomori, but one day she disappeared and he almost starved to death. He was so hungry, that he crawled to the nearest store where they feed him, but demanded that he worked out for his meal. I wonder how it would work in reality? Would the son die or became a part of the working society? The choice would be his then, so if I were the father I wouldn't worry.
(ID #436424) Posted on 2009/01/05 22:14
if they actually own the home id have sold it and went with the wife and daughter. =P
(ID #436426) Posted on 2009/01/05 22:19
Hah now that's an idea xD The people would have one of the following, while moving in: -a surprise guest in the room -a trauma, because of a corpse on the middle of the room -nothing, cause the guy would do as the one in the N.H.K.
(ID #436716) Posted on 2009/01/06 01:52
Just my opinion, but if you don't let someone experience falling on their face and having to climb back up to their feet then they will never truly respect or appreciate anything. Beyond sad how shameful people act just because their life didn't turn out how they wanted.
(ID #436425) Posted on 2009/01/05 22:17
What a sad story for that family. That guy should be send to bootcamp or a temple to live as a monk.. learn about respect for his parents!
(ID #436427) Posted on 2009/01/05 22:19
Writer, Illustrator, Collector, and Geek Philosopher
I've been reading this book. It's called A Confederacy of Dunces. Ignatius J. Reilly sounds a lot like this Hikikomori guy. He doesn't respect his parent either, not even his poor momma who don't want him working as a hot dog seller. Only Ignatius has ways of getting around the stumbles in life somehow, this hikikomori sounds like he will starve.
(ID #436439) Posted on 2009/01/05 22:39
He's a danger to himself and his family. At 35 years of age he should stop feeling sorry for himself and get back out into the world. If he's into anime he should at least have SOME sense of adventure in him. If he can no longer find work and becomes more of a burden to those around him then his father needs to admit him into a mental health hospital, by a gesture of caring or by force. Life is hard and we don't always get the things we want but where there is a will there is a way. I hope this family can get their lives back on track and not be forced to live in such a way.
(ID #436441) Posted on 2009/01/05 22:40
this dude need to be abandoned! there's no good thing will come to this guy if he didn't come out and face his devil, society starve him and see if this guy worth saving or not survival of the fittest is the best cure for hikkikomori's
(ID #436446) Posted on 2009/01/05 22:45
it's cases like this that really irks me about these guys. hikkomoris shut themselves up,to escape the prejudice and disparagement of society. and rightfully so i may add. while people are out there trying to support their way of living, they choose to hide from it all. it's bad enough that man is a hikkomori, but treating your parents like that is a whole new low. i realise that the working life, especially that in japan can be harsh and demanding, but that's how life is. you don't go around shutting yourself in your room, demand to be fed and kick up a fuss like some spoilt 12 year old kid. with japan's birth rate at a all new low, i shudder to think the consequences of failing to address the issue of hikkomoris.
(ID #436454) Posted on 2009/01/05 22:57
former Emperor of Britannia
Can't say that we are in no position to do a lecture since this one has went way above the fence. Seriously i'd like to have a word with his father. I mean why does he tolerate his son's antics. I know it is his son but why to such an extent. There must be a reason. Regardless of it however, he should also inform his son of his grounds regarding as his parent. if that'd be my son i'd seriously give him a good scolding and a good punch to wake his senses up.
(ID #436456) Posted on 2009/01/05 22:57
That guy really needs some discipline. If there wasn't anyone cooking for him and paying his bills, he'd had to change whether he likes it or not.
(ID #436483) Posted on 2009/01/05 23:19
Polytechnic Senior, Bronze Lifesaving Trainee, Mech Designer, Pokemon Indexer.
For the son, I'll nail him in the balls since he obviously doesn't know how to behave like a human. For the father... Slap him. With a steel bat (if he has to). Unrelated note, I envy the owner of that room... he's got a Midori hand puppet. T^T
(ID #436487) Posted on 2009/01/05 23:25
marvin (Registered on 2006/12/25 00:54)
someone need to give him a lesson in humility. in any case the father should stop feeding the lazy bum.
(ID #436491) Posted on 2009/01/05 23:28
OH MY GOD ^^
(ID #436500) Posted on 2009/01/05 23:33
anime/cosplay events organizer
what a douchebag >.> this guy needs some beating >.>
(ID #436501) Posted on 2009/01/05 23:33
That is really sad he needs to seek help at a mental institute that is not right.
(ID #436504) Posted on 2009/01/05 23:33
五〇一軍团 TK8316 Singapore Garrison Public Relations Officer
it's time to call nanny 911.
(ID #436513) Posted on 2009/01/05 23:36
Dog of the Country
u meant "grandnanny 911"?
(ID #436530) Posted on 2009/01/05 23:42
Young Grasshopper
Haha +1
(ID #436857) Posted on 2009/01/06 05:09
Thats what you get for not beating your kids.
(ID #436516) Posted on 2009/01/05 23:37
A real pity...A real lesson of humility is needed....and quick before its too late...
(ID #436528) Posted on 2009/01/05 23:41
keroro platoon member
If he has mental disorder --> see a psychiatrist or even stay at a rehabilitation center for some time. If he is doing that on purpose --> beat him kenshiro style, leave him alone, hopefully he can be cured.
(ID #436542) Posted on 2009/01/05 23:51
i have to agree with you there, though i also can't read the full news on mainichi so i can't fully grasp the exact details that lead to his condition. i think these cases should be further investigated before judging the person
(ID #436865) Posted on 2009/01/06 05:22
IT-Architect, SysAdmin, WebDesign and Coding, Virtualization (VMware + NetApp)
Hmmm, very very sad indeed... poor family. :( But do you think it's a good idea to connect it with the picture seen above? ;) Hikis aren't always anime/manga/etc. fans, it's just a way of behaviour in the end. Connecting such a hard case of a negative hiki person with the picture above does leave a rather bad aftertaste for me. :/ (I didn't follow the links to read it all in detail, so if he was an otaku in the end i appologise ahead, not to much time here at school. ;) )
(ID #436557) Posted on 2009/01/06 00:02
The problem is the guy is alreay 35 and is to late to smack him. The solution in this cases is simply leave at his own, when he realize that food and electricity don`t grow on walls, sure he start to find a way to survive. Belive me, I know I`m talking...
(ID #436561) Posted on 2009/01/06 00:06
i sooo want those posters!!!
(ID #436562) Posted on 2009/01/06 00:06
A 35 year-old kid? Unemployed? And with that kind of attitude to their family member that is absurd! For the dad to solve this problem he should stand up and cut his internet connection and living expenses so he knows that his father is important to support him. His son really need a hard spanking in the @ss with an attitude like that.
(ID #436573) Posted on 2009/01/06 00:13
Seriously, the father should have done what the mother has done. 35 years old and still living off his parents is utterly regretful. Hopefully when the father has left, the son would seriously wake up to reality.
(ID #436581) Posted on 2009/01/06 00:17
Programmer Trainee
I'd beat the son and tell him how ungrateful he is. And then I'd sermon the dad to toughen up. That's just too much of a self-sacrifice for a parent
(ID #436591) Posted on 2009/01/06 00:21
Fail. And his attitude qualifies him for epic fail.
(ID #436598) Posted on 2009/01/06 00:24
D: I'd leave him alone and not help him. He should be able to care of himself I mean come on hes 35 year old!
(ID #436601) Posted on 2009/01/06 00:27
He needs a FALCON PAWNCH in the face, that's inexcusable for a 35 year old. On a side note, anyone know where I can get cases for figures like the one in the middle of the picture?
(ID #436613) Posted on 2009/01/06 00:33
Student, Bioresearch Assistant, WAVE VP Communications
I would disown the son, seriously.
(ID #436615) Posted on 2009/01/06 00:34
Student and Club Banchou
Encourage his parents to beat him up! he needs some serious lesson in being independent and respectful to his parents. he's 35 for god sake! snap out of it and get a life! i think he should be the one who took care of his parents especially his father instead of being take cared of and act like some spoiled brat.
(ID #436646) Posted on 2009/01/06 00:52
What a crappy son. To treat someone who tries to help you so badly is just pathetic. I do feel for him though, when it comes to the job search problem. That's exactly how things have been going for me lately. I've been getting a lot of interviews, but I've just had zero luck actually landing job over the last 8 months. It's pretty scary actually.
(ID #436665) Posted on 2009/01/06 01:04
College student, Mech programmer and striving photographer.
Yea...I thought he was just another Hikki but MAN when I read how he treats his father I thought this guy is just another freeloading BASTARD! Just cut him off of everything that leads to the otakusphere (internet, money, t.v, etc...) and this guy actually graduated from UNIVERSITY he can look up at least 1 crappy job that suits his crappy personality. -.-"
(ID #436674) Posted on 2009/01/06 01:15
Extremely Poor College Student
if my son was like that then i would beat the crap out of him even if i have to go to jail
(ID #436678) Posted on 2009/01/06 01:18
Physical Therapist
Woah thats awful! I think the father should abandon his son.Its hard to do and may hurt but its probably the only way to change the situation after all.His son already ruined so much of his life...
(ID #436680) Posted on 2009/01/06 01:21
Pori Student
It's time for an all out attack! Lemme at em'! He needs some sense beat into him.
(ID #436693) Posted on 2009/01/06 01:28
Kinny Riddle (Registered on 2008/03/19 23:01)
35 years old and still a bloody hikkikomori? Not to mention the way he treats his old man. I can't think of any better word to describe this person besides "scum". Perhaps his old man too have some issues for being too nice to such a person who doesn't deserve it, or maybe he's wallowing in all the guilt of how he's "failed his son. But it's still no justification for the guy treating his old man that way.
(ID #436695) Posted on 2009/01/06 01:31
Student, Otaku, She-Geek(Sheek lol)
Kick the son out? Poor father... that tosspot son has no respect....
(ID #436702) Posted on 2009/01/06 01:36
I read every comment on here and it seems most readers would inflict some physical violence on just the son or the son and the father. Other suggest stop feeding, sell house, etc. Hey how about this one that not a single person has mentioned: Ask him why he gets angry about food, why he won't make his own lunch, why he is so unstable and lost in life. Ohhh my bad who am i to think talking to someone could ever solve anything?! If he flips out when you ask the question (which you must be prepared for) then restrain him and continue asking questions...but most importantly all while remaining calm. Having 2 or 3 people to assist would be good. Think intervention. If no one responds to his anger with more anger, than he will be forced to stop and think rationally, or he perhaps he will "flip out" even more. I could think of a dozen questions to then ask him that would force him to come to terms with own actions. But isn't it worth a try? Shouldn't someone try to change him rather than give in to his behavior or move out? Doesn't any one feel sorrow and sympathy rather than anger when hearing this. I really feel like I'm from another planet most of the time. I guess i think differently in some ways.....
(ID #436738) Posted on 2009/01/06 02:20
I agree :/ I was quite amazed of the amount of those aggressive comments.. Actually it made me wanna puke. And yeah.. There isn't that much details so ... but I think it would be best to start as being understanding. The family should have a serious talk if possible and get help from the right place.
(ID #437290) Posted on 2009/01/06 13:06
yukito (Registered on 2008/04/07 19:23)
It's one of the strangest things about DannyChoo.com. Most of the time I feel like this site's users are really nice and thoughtful people, but every once in a while something like this comes up and everyone seems to turn into something completely different. I seriously don't know if it makes me more sad or scared that after reading about a case like this, almost everyone thinks the best way to solve it is by violence and revenge.
(ID #437427) Posted on 2009/01/06 14:34
What is a Hikikomori?
(ID #436743) Posted on 2009/01/06 02:28
Student, Bioresearch Assistant, WAVE VP Communications
shut in, to put it bluntly.
(ID #437006) Posted on 2009/01/06 09:18
What does shut in imply? That he don't go out?
(ID #438166) Posted on 2009/01/07 04:58
lolinapper
what a very sad and irritating news. If I was the father, I would beat the heck out of that boy!Like seriously beat him!I wouldn't even allow him to come near my home.
(ID #436750) Posted on 2009/01/06 02:47
PhysicsMajor/Someting/Photo/Pharm Tech
The only way is to have the son see his errors by abandonment. Have the father move out and leave his son there in his former house. No forwarding address, just a phone number on the door. The father's love has blinded him for years I guess. Once the son see he cannot support himself, like immediately, he would have to get a job at a fast food chain. Or send him to a asylum. It's really simple in theory, but it takes a Father/Man to help his son out of this blue fit. I don't think he has the kintama to be a Man.
(ID #436751) Posted on 2009/01/06 02:49
The father should grow up and go home, kick the son out of the house and make him learn what it's like to have to support himself.
(ID #436782) Posted on 2009/01/06 03:34
NEET (no, student, AND employed min. wage)
the parents failed majorly, and that kid lacks discipline...
(ID #436788) Posted on 2009/01/06 03:41
Student
I would say that this man is mentally ill. Would need to go to a psychological health center or something. I feel really bad for the father having to support this child. Must be really hard for him ><. Also I think that the father is scared that if he would kick his son, his son would commit suicide.
(ID #436796) Posted on 2009/01/06 03:47
I say let him. One less burden on human society. It may sound cold of me to say that, but in reality thats all he is. If you are physically and mentally able to work and arent for whatever reason for more then 7 months, you are becoming a burden to society. Arent Japanese fast food chains always looking for more workers?
(ID #436801) Posted on 2009/01/06 03:53
True, but there's also the stigma of working low pay jobs that get on people's nerves. A lot of parents absolutely hate it when their children work low-pay jobs because it looks like they fail at life. I don't really get it, but the -sometimes unconscious- pressure of the parents and the incompetence of the sons/daughters can be one nasty combo.
(ID #436896) Posted on 2009/01/06 06:10
I see your point, but in my eyes as a working student, nothing that pays a decent hourly rate, even if its low isn't worth doing. Maybe I developed that mentality ebcause I come from a blue collar back ground and working hard is all I know. Not saying no one else does, but still if I was in this kids shoes regardless of what it looked like, I'd get a job wherever I could get one.
(ID #436902) Posted on 2009/01/06 06:18
Exactly. One shouldn't be ashamed of their kind of work, as long as it put food on the table and made you an honest hard working person. The problem is that a lot of parents put these ridiculous expectations (perfect grades, perfect job, perfect this and that) and it may or may not be a factor in how screwed the kid gets. Like this case, he got so frustrated he couldn't get a job in less than a year after graduating he just quit looking for one. Maybe he wouldn't have gotten so crazy about it if society and/or his parents didn't put so much pressure on him. He also seems to be an ass, so not getting thing as he planned he threw an epic tantrum. Just saying that a lot of factors can make a person have this awful personality. Although a lot of it is also his fault; damn he's already 35 just get a job, any job.
(ID #437626) Posted on 2009/01/06 17:07
I don't know what a hikikomori is, even after I read the the article (on RSS)....but I do know what it means after I looked at this picture...................man.... what a poor father he is..........
(ID #436808) Posted on 2009/01/06 04:02
NEET (no, student, AND employed min. wage)
well, just to say, that this is an extreme case... I mean my mom called me a hikikomori, and I was pretty "happy" with where I was at (quotation b/c I wasn't, but my mom thought I was pleased with where I was in life, which is absolute BS. However, I did attend class, and go meet with friends when they were around)
(ID #436840) Posted on 2009/01/06 04:41
Tequila (Registered on 2008/08/26 22:40)
Meh, should be punished. and their parents should be too for allowing their son turn into this.
(ID #436830) Posted on 2009/01/06 04:25
What a douche. Serves him right although that should have happened ten years ago. Talk about biting the hand that feeds you.
(ID #436843) Posted on 2009/01/06 04:46
Asshole. He has such a great father, yet he doesn't realize it. He puts up with all the crap the kid flings at him...
(ID #436864) Posted on 2009/01/06 05:19
Systems programmer
He needs to get his ass kicked, plain and simple. He doesnt even realize the stress hes putting on his poor father. His father should be given the most patient man in the world reward for putting up with that sh*t! If I was the father, I would ahve sold all of his son's stuff, gave his son the money, kick him out of the house, and said "Dont back here again. Good luck."
(ID #436874) Posted on 2009/01/06 05:38
such a sad state. the dad should lecture/do his best to reason with him then send him to a proper institution.
(ID #436877) Posted on 2009/01/06 05:42
Student, Bioresearch Assistant, WAVE VP Communications
The guy is 35, I think it's too late to knock senses into him now.
(ID #437009) Posted on 2009/01/06 09:21
Otaku, High School Student, Aspiring Animator
I think what they did is the best course of action. Just leave. With no one around to take care of him the son will be forced to act on his own to make a living. That may also knock some sense into him and maybe he'll start appreciating his parents more.
(ID #436882) Posted on 2009/01/06 05:49
Spoiled little sh_t. Reminds of of a family friend's son who does nothing but eat out with his girlfriend and friends and takes his grandpa's pension and social security money. Worthless.
(ID #436888) Posted on 2009/01/06 05:59
I hate getting outta the house and am antisocial so no plans on getting a partner thus I consider myself a Hikikomori. But I have a job, I'm the main support of my family and are never abusive to it. I think this guy is giving us a bad image!!! PS: How could he hurt the pet, that's heartless.
(ID #436890) Posted on 2009/01/06 06:01
wth? i woulda punched the son in the face and throw his ass out.
(ID #436911) Posted on 2009/01/06 06:31
bad son ^^
(ID #436918) Posted on 2009/01/06 06:40
System Design Engineering (UWaterloo)
As an absent minded father, I really do hope that he really takes this son of his a good smack in the face. Get a new cellphone if he doesn't want to get his son to call him during work. He has to face reality that sometimes doesn't work out. I understand the tantrums that the guy faces. But the problem with him is that he gives up too fast and doesn't gobble in on how to become better. I would personally like to get him out of his house and make him go until he finds himself a job.
(ID #436922) Posted on 2009/01/06 06:46
simple advice. Dont spoil your kids, If his son makes demands like that he should punch him in the face.
(ID #436923) Posted on 2009/01/06 06:46
Student.
Beat the kids ass for sure...
(ID #436934) Posted on 2009/01/06 07:02
that is a lot of gashapon I want a windows Me doll
(ID #436945) Posted on 2009/01/06 07:24
I praise you, oh mighty collector!~
(ID #436952) Posted on 2009/01/06 07:51
introduce him to a group of friends to get him socializing with other people...if he seems more like a sociopath...then hire someone to ransack his toy collection, and to leave bags of poo under his bed!!! punishment!!! :oP
(ID #436968) Posted on 2009/01/06 08:06
omg, on this picture, that is a little collection of figure ... >_<
(ID #436989) Posted on 2009/01/06 08:56
And I thought I have an anger problem. I usually come home from school very grumpy and in a bad mood and I throw stuff around like my pillow but I make sure not to hit any figures.
(ID #437024) Posted on 2009/01/06 09:32
Scientist, unemployed.
As a 32 year old guy stuck living at home (Michigan has been in a recession for years now, and I'm poor to start) I understand the frustration at not getting a job. However, this guy went way too far. He should commit seppku immediately. Here's hoping this job comes through. I really could use the money.
(ID #437027) Posted on 2009/01/06 09:34
Student Otaku (ITM Student) and ACG NA Staff
Seriously...he needs a life... Someone...give the guy a green mushroom... I would smack him until he sees what he is doing is a bit over the edge...
(ID #437030) Posted on 2009/01/06 09:41
Finance
I understand how hard it is to get a job. I was there once myself. But, doing all that to you dad!? OMG The dad need kick his son out of the house or give him a beating of his life!
(ID #437042) Posted on 2009/01/06 09:56
Sounds like a mental disorder to me, perhaps Schizo-Affective Disorder. My younger brother has it. He's 34 and has never done any work, always scheming ways for easy money, and demands a life style that includes daily breakfast at StarBucks. Sadly, my parents are part of the equation. Mental disorder + bad character + chickens for parents.
(ID #437049) Posted on 2009/01/06 10:01
Student
That guy have been a hikikomori for 10 years. Seriously if he can spend his 10 years of time doing other thing he might be successful, what a waste of time. Also he is just 35, still got plenty of chance in live.
(ID #437078) Posted on 2009/01/06 10:38
student/ legal assistant/ otaku/ worshipper of dc.com
that daddy needs to do some ass whuppin!
(ID #437083) Posted on 2009/01/06 10:42
Mechanical Engineering student
Dude, if I was the father I would give my son a good beating! Either that or I seek a professional help but I'm leaning more on the beating part. How dare he order me to kneel in front of me or call me from work to remake his lunch? Who does he think he is? I might even forget that he's my own son and dispose of him... seriously -_- I feel sorry for the father T_T
(ID #437121) Posted on 2009/01/06 11:02
I think the old belt should do the trick, and if he tries to fight back, throw all his stuff out and lock him out.
(ID #437141) Posted on 2009/01/06 11:17
How about the Po-lice?
(ID #437166) Posted on 2009/01/06 11:48
Disgusting parasite of the society, If he's not going to be useful in this world, then he doesn't deserve any rights for living in here either... extremes always SUCK!!!
(ID #437202) Posted on 2009/01/06 12:24
Future Idol
Man... that's really awful >.< That guy... need a gf XD
(ID #437206) Posted on 2009/01/06 12:27
Student artist
my dad would kick my ass if I did that to him
(ID #437207) Posted on 2009/01/06 12:27
Seen like the son has lose all self-confident on himself, hence the behaviour. However, taking it on your own parents who 'sheltered' you is damn wrong. This guy need a serious 'wake-up' call
(ID #437225) Posted on 2009/01/06 12:37
Pseudo-Graphic Designer, 太もも Appreciator
The father is a good man, but I think he's not helping his son to grow up if he keeps supporting him. I worry that I may turn into this guy... but at least I'm working. There are a lot of solutions mentioned already, so I shall hold my tongue. Instead I'll give a summary of a fictional hikikomori that's not from Welcome to NHK. This hikikomori is a character from World War Z, a novel about zombies outbreak in the world. He was pretty much similar to this guy except it's his mother who keeps him fed. One day the mother stopped feeding him and his internet stopped. He went outside his room to check and saw his mother turned into a zombie after trying to get her son fed. This guy eventually escaped and became a kind of zombie killer warrior. I haven't read the book yet, but trying to get it and give it a read. 2 of my co-workers really enjoyed the book. I just thought it was related to this even though there aren't real zombies here >.>
(ID #437259) Posted on 2009/01/06 12:54
If thats his room I would not leave either!!! OK Im just playing the father should leave the son to fend for himself!!! Then the guy will be forced to work or die!!! I hope he picks the first choice!!!
(ID #437272) Posted on 2009/01/06 12:58
WTH? That kind of son exists?! Advice for the father : Change your son into a Persocon! That way he would serve YOU not the other way around! Advice for the son : . . . May God forgive you...
(ID #437321) Posted on 2009/01/06 13:18
Bust out the belt or bring out the paddle cuz the son needs a spanking badly! Time for some tough love!...
(ID #437396) Posted on 2009/01/06 14:15
Time to beat his ungrateful, pitiful piece of S**T with a baseball bat. There is absolutely no excuse for such behavior. Taking out your frustration on a elderly parent is sickening. Such losers should just disappear permanently.
(ID #437404) Posted on 2009/01/06 14:21
Studio Bleach founder/owner
Quite honestly, the son just needs three things. 1) A punching bag, so he can take his anger out of that. 2) A therapist, so he can talk to somebody that will help him find out what he is doing wrong and find a way to achieve his goal. 3) A program that could help people like him. In all cases, calling the police... beating him up... and other things like that will make the situation worse. What he needs is something to help with the violent side, and one or two things to focus on what caused it. Once you treat these things, everything should smooth over in a certain amount of time... And he will learn how to control his anger, as well as have a normal life. :3
(ID #437570) Posted on 2009/01/06 16:04
Student & Part time worker in a Day Care
if I was the father I would throw that boy out, I mean on come he's 35, not even close to being e minor. He should learn to take care of himself, so what if he can't get a business job, go be a newspaper boy or something.
(ID #437590) Posted on 2009/01/06 16:27
Studio Bleach founder/owner
It's not that easy. When you toss out a person that is having a hard time getting work, he will more than likely become homeless than successful. And with him, he could easily be over qualified or even under qualified. But it can also be due to his demeanor, which may make it hard for him to gain employment. Atop of that, it may make things worse for his temperament in the long run. As for what you said, I know first hand that it does not work. What it also does is damage his resume. He loses the reputation of doing what he has either trained for or become proficient in. Or, at least, in the eyes of the employer. So atop of the fact they will question if he is still capable of doing the work based on said skills, they will question why he has been a "paperboy" and not doing the position he has been applying for. And, in the long run, he will be hitting one dead-end job after another. And that can become more and more frustrating... To the point he could just snap, and either take it out on somebody or just commit suicide. And think how his family would feel if either one happened.
(ID #437675) Posted on 2009/01/06 18:15
Student & Part time worker in a Day Care
just because he's been doing dead-end jobs doesn't mean he has to put it on his resume, it's a lot better than just sitting around at home doing nothing, at least he's got money. I guess going to the therapist would be the best help but judging from his actions, I don't think getting him to go would be easy. Based on experience, there's going to have to be some compromises in order to help him. If he still doesn't obey then you have to be strict with him and not let him do as he wishes, that's just spoiling him otherwise.
(ID #439786) Posted on 2009/01/08 10:28
Student, health worker
(I doubt beating him will solve anything.) ...He needs a dose of reality. I think his parents (At least his father) need to stop supporting him so he actually realizes he can't keep mooching off his parents for the rest of his life. :/ Honestly, it's not like he needs to get the biggest job ever - he just needs to start out with something to get him out and working. Reality got me and now I'm 17 and supporting my family --- Once he figures out everything isn't made for him he'll hopefully give it a try :/ he just needs a big, big biiiiiig push and a reality check~!
(ID #437617) Posted on 2009/01/06 16:50
Studio Bleach founder/owner
Yeah... The beating bit will result in him striking back, or even striking others. So you are correct on that. But I think the issue includes the fact he hates mooching off his parents and not being independent. Because the fact he sounds like he is frustrated with the idea he is a loser. That he spent so many years making something out of himself, and now that he can be a somebody... One employer after another denies him the chance of proving that he can back up his words and worth. Now, with his family, I think they are the second part of this anger. Because even though they supported him, he might feel like they are not supporting him enough. Maybe what he needed was them to say he was too good for them, or something else. But the violence there feels like he needed them and they said or did nothing to help. In the end, I totally feel like he wants to be on his own. And not having that can add to one's frustration. ^^;;
(ID #437684) Posted on 2009/01/06 18:35
The father should just ignore his son and make him fend for himself, make him feel just what reality is like.
(ID #437629) Posted on 2009/01/06 17:08
Studio Bleach founder/owner
And what is the reality here? I mean other than the fact he worked so hard to get to a position that could have him be on his own and making good money... Only to have those dreams be destroyed because one employer after another is denying him a position that is based on all the hard work and effort he put in his time at the university. ^^;;
(ID #437688) Posted on 2009/01/06 18:38
Stories like this just go to show the difference between Japanese and American parents. American parents are often accused of spoiling their kids, but 99.9999999999% of American parents simply would NOT put up with this level of BS.
(ID #437637) Posted on 2009/01/06 17:19
Studio Bleach founder/owner
Can you please show me where you got these stats? Because in truth, I could say the same thing and make it sound true. Much like how 99.9999999999% of Americans that like penguins wear nothing but black and white shirts. In all truth, what you said is bogus. No offense, but what you know as much about the situation as you know about the "parents" you based on your percentage. Because think about it... It's his ego and pride being broken, and he is taking it out in the only way he knows. In other words... 99.9999999999% of "American Dragon Ball Z fans that use anime characters as examples" will say that he is Vegeta. Think of it. The pride, the temperament, and how Vegeta felt every time he found out he is not the best. Which means he needs to just try harder if he wants to progress to the level he feels that he deserves. ^^;;
(ID #437697) Posted on 2009/01/06 18:57
The father is too kind!
(ID #437664) Posted on 2009/01/06 18:01
Studio Bleach founder/owner
Or maybe he understands what his son is going through... Or even expected it. ^^;; That, or he is just somebody that supports his family regardless of who they are, much less what wrongs they have done. (I had an aunt who was like that with her four kids.)
(ID #437698) Posted on 2009/01/06 18:59
Mano (Registered on 2008/06/21 23:17)
35 years old and cannot cook his own meal is a failure
(ID #437833) Posted on 2009/01/06 21:37
Mano (Registered on 2008/06/21 23:17)
forgot to say, his father or family is so kind to the extent kindness become naive.
(ID #437837) Posted on 2009/01/06 21:42
Japanese culture is difficult to understand for me, but I think there are a lot of traditions and rituals witch are going broken, so young people suffer this transition more than others as they does not understand HOW to live, an older people can't offer any help. I also think Japanese people underrate psychological pathologies like depression, and think it's something to hide instead of a "normal" disease caused by stress.
(ID #438151) Posted on 2009/01/07 04:37
Dropping computers, starting all over again at Journalism
Beating and scolding are the first things that comes to mind, but obviously, it's not the solution. It can make things even worse, and can end up with someone dead. A problem that's going on in 10 years can't be solved in that way. I'd say: Seek professional help. And get the guy out of the house and into a hospital/clinic/whatever for him to treat himself. I know the hikkikomori is wrong on this one, but I guess the problem would never have gotten this far if it wasn't for the family also accepting him being that way.
(ID #438185) Posted on 2009/01/07 05:39
Art Production Manager, Computer/Graphic Design Tutor
Yeah, the son needs to be kicked out...big time. That'll show'em what it means to be a man!
(ID #438244) Posted on 2009/01/07 06:56
wow, if I acted that way, I'd be kicked out of the house without a second thought
(ID #438433) Posted on 2009/01/07 10:42
Truly remarkable if someone has the patience to deal with this kind of treatment on a regular basis. The son should be more considerate. His parents aren't to blame for the unfortunate situation he finds himself in. As the saying goes, "Don't find fault, find remedy". And if he doesn't like the food why not cook it himself,instead of relying on his father?
(ID #439450) Posted on 2009/01/08 04:07
I'm mildly amused at the differences the posters have on how severe the reality bite this dude should receive in order to make him take stock of things, see how he stands, and where to take it from here.
(ID #439566) Posted on 2009/01/08 06:36
in my opinion he should of been disciplined when he was younger doing something productive, learning karate etc. these days parents are kinda lax when its dealing with an only child, which i understand. this situation could of been avoided none the less. poor mum and dad tho :(
(ID #462026) Posted on 2009/01/26 01:21
Otaku Programmer/Gamer/Artist/Photographer
aww i feel sorry for the father >__< THAT SON NEEDS A GOOD SMACKING!!!
(ID #544129) Posted on 2009/04/01 09:44
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