Sat 2009/01/03 10:22
The Japanese government is putting forward a proposal to hunt down NEETs and Hikikomori in an attempt to get them back on their feet and working for society. Up until now, there have been support stations set up throughout the country to help these folks but because NEETs and hikikomori have a tendency to just stay in doors, the program proved to be quite useless. But this time they are going to use all means possible to hunt NEETs down and turn up at their door one day. There are currently about 620,000 NEETs in Japan who are not proactively seeking employment or training. Reminds me of when I was back in the UK - our neighbors had three sons who refused to work because they said that they receive free benefits from the government (and free rent) and didn't see the point of working... Description of NEET from Wikipedia below.NEET is an acronym for the government classification "Not currently engaged in Employment, Education or Training". It was first used in the United Kingdom but its use has spread to other countries, including Japan, China and South Korea. In the United Kingdom, the classification comprises people aged between 16 and 18 (some 16 year olds are still of compulsory school age). In England, Wales and Northern Ireland students must finish year 11 (year 12 in Northern Ireland). In Japan, the classification comprises people aged between 15 and 34 who are unemployed, unmarried, not enrolled in school or engaged in housework, and not seeking work or the technical training needed for work.News via Sankei, NEET girl (?) from Gelbooru.
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student , otaku and awesome blogger
that is a good idea but some people may complain that what the government is doing is against human rights
(ID #433654) Posted on 2009/01/03 10:44
The counter argument, of course, is that the government is trying to proactively promote their human rights... ^^;
(ID #433887) Posted on 2009/01/03 15:51
Nah. Useless citizens are just dead weight. They better contribute to the society they live in and stop freeloading. Anyone who uses the human rights argument is just looking for a pathetic excuse.
(ID #434328) Posted on 2009/01/04 00:05
Pathetic excuse to be LAZY.
(ID #434329) Posted on 2009/01/04 00:08
Maybe some people want to be lazy? That's their life choice, and I personally don't think you should judge them for that. The government shouldn't regulate how people choose to live their lives. Obviously these people have some way of paying for the things they need, and I personally haven't found a way to leech off the government for no good reason. So if you look at it that way, they actually are contributing to society by putting currency into circulation. Maybe they have a dead uncle who gave them a few mil? =P
(ID #434458) Posted on 2009/01/04 02:43
That isn't how it works, this it about the people who gain benifit's from the government and by spending this money they are not contributing as it is just tax money from the government they are spending. In the UK taxation is so high, this is why a lot of people are upset with benifit fraud etc.
(ID #434652) Posted on 2009/01/04 07:11
Well If the people in question are living off of social services provided by the government than it is simply a matter of regulating there life while they are receiving benefits. Treat it like unemployment here in America. When i was on it(for 12 weeks) I received a % of pay, but had to check in weekly and provide info they requested. In time they send you to training courses, meetings, workshops, and other stuff to get you back in work. If these people in question are NOT receiving any government assistance, then the government has no right to interfere with them. A human being has a right to live his life any way he chooses.Whether that means fulfilling your human potential or becoming a shut in who reads manga all day, there is no difference. As long as they are paying any bills they have, not breaking the law, and not a danger to themselves, then leave them alone! The biggest problem is that most people really think a person should integrate themselves into society and become part of the system. Well here is a news flash for you, we have only lived this way for a small amount of time. While i feel it is beneficial for us to help each other, that can still be done without a job or a family. the value of a human life should not be set by how they contribute to society!!! The fact that there are alive should be enough. We can sit here and look down on others and yell at them for not becoming a slave to some company, or we can try to understand each other, and look for a deeper reason as to why this person chose this path. Furthermore I think it is time we start to place less value on success and accomplishments. Everyone is so concerned about achieving, competing, conforming, and acquiring material items, that i understand these peoples choices.
(ID #435663) Posted on 2009/01/05 04:53
Furthermore, If these people have there parents or whoever paying for there bills, then who cares. The goverment should be more concerned about the folks who have no money, no house, nho job and are homeless. But where is the concern for those folks!!!!!! Nowhere. Just like here in America. They wine and complain about people taking advantage of the system, but take no effort to help the people at the very bottom. So how about we focus our attention on people who really need help.
(ID #435664) Posted on 2009/01/05 04:55
That's the problem with "Freedom", people abuse it. Not just because you can do something means that you should. You are free to be lazy but is it a good thing? It's about doing what's right for you and the people around you. Social responsibility. Freedom is not an excuse to be a nuisance. If there is a government program that will drag these people out of their voluntary misery then by all means do it. That's the problem with today's society, we tend to think selfishly. As long as we chose it, it's fine regardless if you're being a burden or trouble to other people. We should change that mentality. That's the thing that communists have above us capitalists, their people are encouraged to do their part.
(ID #435750) Posted on 2009/01/05 07:15
What does "to use all means possible" mean exactly. Depending on what this means it's either a good thing to do or just plain wrong.
(ID #433655) Posted on 2009/01/03 10:46
Self Employee NEET
Probably just wrong and violating human right.
(ID #433712) Posted on 2009/01/03 12:05
university film student
It's indeed a real worry. Most people who are NEETs don't really want to stop being a NEET anyway - the problem is one of motivation after all. Just how much is the government allowed to interfere in the private lives of its citizens?
(ID #433795) Posted on 2009/01/03 13:35
"to use all means possible" Don't worry about it...the government wouldn't do anything extreme... *loads tranquilizers into rifle per orders* ^_^;
(ID #433889) Posted on 2009/01/03 15:52
Are you also packing the "A Clockwork Orange" DVD for good measure? (just in case)
(ID #433897) Posted on 2009/01/03 16:05
*LOL*
(ID #433921) Posted on 2009/01/03 16:42
itz only fun being a NEET until u find out that u can't afford the figures you wanted XD
(ID #433656) Posted on 2009/01/03 10:46
DCX001-Prototype
reality strike in ^^
(ID #434239) Posted on 2009/01/03 22:18
Looking for work again
I am relieved that I am not a neet ;) I am attending college and actively looking for work. I have just been unemployed for too long :(
(ID #433661) Posted on 2009/01/03 10:50
Im in the same situation myself. At presetn i am in my last semester, so i better look for work and start getting somewhere.
(ID #433679) Posted on 2009/01/03 11:21
Well done, you just depressed me~ Last semester too, don't enjoy growing up *pout*
(ID #433682) Posted on 2009/01/03 11:28
Looking for work again
You should have most of your skills down so you know kind of where you are going... I hope you do anyway ^_^;; I just started college a couple of semesters ago, still working on my generals so no aid to my job search :(
(ID #438277) Posted on 2009/01/07 07:34
student , otaku and awesome blogger
im in the same situation as you but thank goodness for google's adsense that making money for me
(ID #433710) Posted on 2009/01/03 11:59
Gamer, the hardcore kind
For some mysterious reason, this makes me think about "Welcome to the NHK"... Hmm. Maybe they should get NEEts to watch that series? Hey, it could work wonders ^^; I do hope the government don't go out of line with this, though. Wanting to help is one thing, wanting to save the money spent on their "lazy" asses is another thing. And think about those who are mentally ill and secludes themselves for that reason...
(ID #433663) Posted on 2009/01/03 10:52
Well I think all the japanese NEETs have watched it and then they got more depressed...
(ID #434109) Posted on 2009/01/03 20:36
I was going to say the same thing haha
(ID #434158) Posted on 2009/01/03 21:23
Gamer, the hardcore kind
I think it shows that there's hope for everyone. He got out of the house and got a job eventually.
(ID #434280) Posted on 2009/01/03 22:54
五〇一軍团 TK8316 Singapore Garrison Public Relations Officer
i blame the internet. it's so addictive. one can get almost anything online. well except food. XD
(ID #433673) Posted on 2009/01/03 11:08
You can get food too, you just have to be patient enough to wait for it to arrive. IMing your mom via ICQ to cook you something won't always work though. :D
(ID #433678) Posted on 2009/01/03 11:19
Pokemon master
I can order pizza online and get it within 30 minutes :D
(ID #433681) Posted on 2009/01/03 11:25
Dog of the Country
i prefer using the phone to order my pizza.. and macdonalds too..
(ID #433730) Posted on 2009/01/03 12:26
Pokemon master
You can use to phone to order from Mcdonalds!?
(ID #433800) Posted on 2009/01/03 13:41
五〇一軍团 TK8316 Singapore Garrison Public Relations Officer
Tiny Red Man, what happen to your blog? 6 SIR i see.
(ID #433815) Posted on 2009/01/03 13:56
Otaku / Student in Computer Science
lol
(ID #433683) Posted on 2009/01/03 11:28
university film student
Second that. x_x Before, a NEET would be bored to death. Now he has almost everything at his fingertips. Valiant effort by the Japanese government I guess, but they're pulling one way and society and technology are pulling the other.
(ID #433797) Posted on 2009/01/03 13:37
五〇一軍团 TK8316 Singapore Garrison Public Relations Officer
i was thinking more of free food since we can get almost anything free online. ('~')
(ID #433814) Posted on 2009/01/03 13:55
Assembly line worker, nationally certified madman
You can't blame other things for stuff like that. In the end, it's the decision of the person in question wether to live such a life or not. One should always blame himself first.
(ID #434157) Posted on 2009/01/03 21:23
In a lot of big cites now you can use the internet to order your groceries and they'll deliver them to your door. @.@
(ID #434461) Posted on 2009/01/04 02:46
NEETs aren't actively seeking employment so they are not counted as "unemployed", are they? I would think that during this time of global economic downturn, the Japanese government could do better to find jobs for people looking for work rather than trying to get freeloaders into the work force.
(ID #433676) Posted on 2009/01/03 11:14
Engineer by weekdays, Hikki by weekends
I hope the NEETs/hikki somehow stumble across opportunity to try work on something from home(work from home). Although im not a NEET nor a hikki, but im the type who dont like crowded area/peoples around
(ID #433684) Posted on 2009/01/03 11:31
former Emperor of Britannia
I really don't get the idea as to why people tend to stay or become a NEET. I mean, IRL life is awesome!
(ID #433688) Posted on 2009/01/03 11:36
Engineer by weekdays, Hikki by weekends
Not everyone had a wonderful childhood life. Some of them grown up being called failures as they cant cope fast enough as other people. Confidence self destruct. (life - love + looser label)^confidence level/0 = NEET||Hikki *in before lol fail equation
(ID #433691) Posted on 2009/01/03 11:43
Mechanical Engineering student
This would be good if not for the questionable "all means possible" method. But then again, I guess people can't just stay in their houses and continue being dead weights in the society.
(ID #433689) Posted on 2009/01/03 11:36
Well if the govt want's to smoke em out they can cut all the NEET's resources...starting from the internet and food...ok maybe food is a little drastic, but hey when they're desperate they'll come out on their own...
(ID #433692) Posted on 2009/01/03 11:45
AdvDip Network Security - CCNA - Ironport - Security+
this'd only work if the persons are willing Its like what Danny always seem to underline in his motivational articles. When you have a dream, you strive for it. Most NEETs just don't give a damn anymore.
(ID #433695) Posted on 2009/01/03 11:47
Systems programmer
Man this sounds like something out of an episode of southpark.
(ID #433720) Posted on 2009/01/03 12:13
Self Employee NEET
In japan, boys and girls are demmanded by their parent to get highest school score. This way of thinking made their children on stress (remember the news, some high school students are suicide because of stress?) At university, this one also getting more and more stressful, the test to enter the universty is like having a war and after they manage to enter, the education fee is like crazy expensive. After graduate, there's no such thing as easy and well sallary of job. You education mostly useless (my friend graduated from University and now stay at japan, what job he got? Buger King waitress. Luckylky he stay with his parent.) Why people choosing NEET? Because they disagree of the way of japan education style and working condition. And they also disagree of how the community run today. Want to lure NEET into the cumunity? Simple, feed them with free anime and game stuff, hahahahahaha...
(ID #433721) Posted on 2009/01/03 12:14
Does this mean I'm gonna have to leave my house?
(ID #433723) Posted on 2009/01/03 12:16
Student
I don't think it will be easy to persuade NEET people to work in the society. NEET people are mostly people who had shocking past experiences and are scared. Forcing them against their will will result in disaster in my opinion.
(ID #433727) Posted on 2009/01/03 12:23
mahou kishi
people who cant be controlled by the goverment, is dangerous for them, thats the true reason
(ID #433728) Posted on 2009/01/03 12:25
Future Idol
Err... I guess I'm considered as a NEET now? Haha but I am actually looking for a job too...
(ID #433729) Posted on 2009/01/03 12:26
"In Japan, the classification comprises people aged between 15 and 34 who are unemployed, unmarried, not enrolled in school or engaged in housework, and not seeking work or the technical training needed for work." you arent a NEET you are willing to get off your ass to better yourself. ^^v
(ID #433868) Posted on 2009/01/03 15:33
I only go out of my house to buy food (to a small grocery store on the next block) two or three times a week, my mom brings us (me and my brother [he is still studying but on vaction rigth now]) meat for the week, money (she also pay the bills) and personal hygine stuff when we run out like soap, shampoo, toilet paper, etc, etc. It has been ages since I last went down town (like two months) and like seven months since I became a NEET (maybe when winter passes I'll look for a job [I don't think I die of hunger if I don't]). P.S. I hate people that like to be other people's unasked psychologist. P.S. God Dammit I had to write twice (from now on I will always save before posting to the clipboard).
(ID #433731) Posted on 2009/01/03 12:27
anime/cosplay events organizer
IMO, instead of the government going after for NEETs and Hikkimoris and knocking on their doors...why not encourage them like for example opening a booth at Comiket or at any otaku-related events and offer jobs like web designing or animation production or some job that's otaku related. With this, the government could also raise the awareness and offer help on NEETs and Hikkimoris and show them that like anime characters, they can help and save the country from an evil entity that's called economic recession. I understand that the government is doing this in order to help the already ailing Japanese economy at least a little. With 600,000+ recorded NEETs and Hikkimoris (i believe temp employees [part-timers] are not counted here), imagine if all of these 600,000+ NEETs and Hikkimoris go to work. But I also believe that there are other alternatives to help these NEETs and Hikkimoris rather than forcing them out of their little dark rooms. Encouragement is one of the keys that I see to help these NEETs and Hikkimoris.
(ID #433733) Posted on 2009/01/03 12:27
This might be viable if all NEETs were otaku, but more often than not otaku would already need to have some steady income in order to support what hobby they are fanatical for.
(ID #433829) Posted on 2009/01/03 14:27
i agree, otaku are motivated by their desire irregardless of what it is so they are willing to do something to obtain said desire.
(ID #433869) Posted on 2009/01/03 15:37
She doesn't look unemployed... she looks like she's swamped in work!
(ID #433747) Posted on 2009/01/03 12:42
Yeah, she's got those dark eyes I get when I stay up all night trying to meet a deadline. Teh fun~
(ID #433766) Posted on 2009/01/03 12:58
Engineer-wannabe
yea,i think shes an artist or sumthin like that(with that big tablet n monitor)
(ID #433796) Posted on 2009/01/03 13:37
That's a big number who are NEET in Japan currently. Actually some NEET have some skills in the internet realm who can use to help themselves earn a nice living like web designing a web page using various script language, animation, designing anime character, all those job that related to anime or Otaku can help to give Japan a little boost in the economy. We should encourage NEET to come out and work for their life and not other supporting them. It's a new world out there!
(ID #433748) Posted on 2009/01/03 12:42
Game Designer
Watch out, it's a conspiracy by the NHK!
(ID #433751) Posted on 2009/01/03 12:45
filmaker
tonnes of NEETS here in Australia.
(ID #433754) Posted on 2009/01/03 12:46
hey, if the government is willingly to search a job you can do would you take their offer? as for me, as long its called work, fits or not, i got my money, i'd said : take it that's for people like me who doesn't really want to search for what life is, follow the flow of life this way, we get our survival budget (barely enough to get food) while searching for what we live for, and motivates us to find a better work we can't depend on parent, or family's forever, aren't we? as we human are pretty much better as an individual rather than group group of useless individual is just weak, and soon to be trampled by society group of useful individual will just get stronger & stronger
(ID #433776) Posted on 2009/01/03 13:12
i thought for a while that i was a semi NEET, the only thing i did after arriving from high school was watch anime and read manga all day. Not so much anymore, i do different thing nows ^_^ かっこいでしょう？
(ID #433781) Posted on 2009/01/03 13:14
I'm watching Welcome to the NHK right now, so it's funny that this story was posted at the same time. XD
(ID #433789) Posted on 2009/01/03 13:23
NEETs need a matchmaking service to get more involved with more than 2d! 2d is good but too much of a good thing is a bad thing! 3d from time to time is better...or is that why people buy figures... W2NHK = motivational!
(ID #433806) Posted on 2009/01/03 13:49
^^; The only thing NEETs have in common is that they dont work and have no desire to do so.
(ID #433896) Posted on 2009/01/03 16:03
if only it was that girl from Welcome to the NHK personally visiting those NEETs...they'll be out with their cameras and stalking her in no time...
(ID #433808) Posted on 2009/01/03 13:51
US Navy Sailor
I'm going to give this anime a try. First time I've heard of it. I'm not a hikkomori or neet but I used to be a fritter (I think its called). Holding jobs for a few months and then quiting. Not something I'm proud of. At least now, I can't quit, even if I want to, for 3 and a half more years. But, strangely, I don't want to quit until my time is up.
(ID #433900) Posted on 2009/01/03 16:14
this problem popped up a few weeks ago in Australia.
(ID #433811) Posted on 2009/01/03 13:53
Honestly, it's difficult to see how such programs would be effective. Even if the government were to come knocking on the door, I'm pretty sure that the NEET would ignore it. Unless the government agents were in disguise and then that would be deceptive and improper. Then again, government is certainly one of those entities that do not necessarily have maintain an honest appearance to function. Regardless, I think that an individual that chooses such a lifestyle has something going on at a much deeper level and having random interlopers interjecting themselves in their situations may prove to worsen the matter.
(ID #433834) Posted on 2009/01/03 14:37
Pori Student
Conspiracy! It's all a conspiracy!
(ID #433844) Posted on 2009/01/03 14:49
A larger question is why these young people (well, mainly young men) are NEETs. What sort of assistance will the government provide them, if, for example, they suffer from a mental illness? The more I think about this, the more I am reminded of band-aid versus meaningful long-term solutions.
(ID #433849) Posted on 2009/01/03 14:52
People like that fail at life. I think that's good for them. It might violate human rights or whatever, but I wouldn't want my taxpaid money being wasted on these people who won't find a job. On the other hand, if they can support themselves without government help, then they can do whatever they want.
(ID #433857) Posted on 2009/01/03 15:15
I do not fall into taht category! I work almost 60 hours a week, and have very active life style of snowboaridng and mountain biking. Just you try and tell them i'm a NEET, just try it! lol
(ID #433865) Posted on 2009/01/03 15:31
Student of Computer Info. & Office Sys.
Japan's laws can't touch us international NEET/Hikikomoris lol
(ID #433866) Posted on 2009/01/03 15:32
Until one day...
(ID #433876) Posted on 2009/01/03 15:45
Student artist
I think this is a good idea because sooner or later these people might end up on the streets
(ID #433877) Posted on 2009/01/03 15:46
they just want moar tax some neet do their job at the internet, so that there is no tax and NO! NO! im not a neet :P
(ID #433881) Posted on 2009/01/03 15:47
I hear it helps when there are jobs available. And it helps even more when the older generations can afford to retire and let go of their Kung-Fu Grip(tm) on existing jobs.
(ID #433885) Posted on 2009/01/03 15:50
Almost a doctor, avid anime fan, self-styled wine connoisseur, gamer
Forget NEET hunting... Japan's structure for social welfare is laughable, especially since the breakdown of the traditional employer-employee relationships. A glimpse of modern day Japan: http://www.theage.com.au/opinion/the-poor-in-japan-find-nowhere-to-turn-20090102-792o.html No wonder most of our male anime protagonists are useless, ambition-less buggers !
(ID #433901) Posted on 2009/01/03 16:16
Pseudo-Graphic Designer, 太もも Appreciator
620,000?!?! There are that many?!
(ID #433902) Posted on 2009/01/03 16:23
You know what I've never understood, is just how the hell these people even live. I mean no job equals no money and you can seriously only live for so long with out money.
(ID #433911) Posted on 2009/01/03 16:35
I know a few folks here in Spain that manage to get some money from the state saying that they are constantly ill and unable to work :/ NEETs are all around the world, you know (well, not so many out of Japan but they do exist outta there).
(ID #433980) Posted on 2009/01/03 17:50
Love the artwork! It seems that the Totem in the corner is not working, as she seems quite sad, and unable to cope given the untidy state of the room? But, for a possible NEET, she has a large number of expensive electrical goodies...
(ID #433954) Posted on 2009/01/03 17:15
JR. College Student
Hmm I wouldn't mind if the government came to my door and handed me a job...
(ID #434000) Posted on 2009/01/03 18:21
neither would i xD
(ID #636326) Posted on 2009/06/06 22:33
>our neighbors had three sons who refused to work because they said that they receive free benefits from the government (and free rent) and didn't see the point of working We have such people here too. And this reminds me of a local man who sold his car, because owning a car was too expensive in his thought. (He was a heavy drinker and got fined because the drunken driving all the time:P So he sold his car and got more money to spend on drinking..)
(ID #434006) Posted on 2009/01/03 18:26
Legionnarion_Conquistadorz (Registered on 2008/12/18 20:49)
Student
NHK ni youkoso Live Action... or is it the true documentation?
(ID #434012) Posted on 2009/01/03 18:33
I guess we each have our personal reasons. Me, I'm just completely unmotivated to do anything. Most of you probably can't imagine what that feels like...
(ID #434024) Posted on 2009/01/03 18:42
High school student
Quite a big number. But I dont think they will be able to do anything about hardcore hikikomoris. If they took them by force then that would be violation of human laws. So it will probably be only persuading them in person.
(ID #434041) Posted on 2009/01/03 19:08
nice drawing
(ID #434095) Posted on 2009/01/03 20:09
All means possible sends shivers down my spine.
(ID #434103) Posted on 2009/01/03 20:15
Programmer Trainee
I wish our government did something like that so there wouldn't be so many beggars out in the streets or we won't have to worry so much about thieves.
(ID #434126) Posted on 2009/01/03 20:55
Assembly line worker, nationally certified madman
Well, there is no doubt about that those people need help but what are they supposed to do with them? Hit them with a bat and abduct them and send them into bootcamps? Short answer is no, long answer is nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo since that would be against the law. Possible that they can get a few more of those NEETs out of their rooms by actually showing up in front of those people but you can't expect the numbers to be high.
(ID #434152) Posted on 2009/01/03 21:20
working to pay for figures etc.
I think the situation of people spending their entire lives indoors in front of a screen will just become the norm in future, but as we all know there is a way of making money just from doing this! Trouble is governments only understand people doing traditional salaried jobs.
(ID #434159) Posted on 2009/01/03 21:24
Student
That's a serious problem, people here in the Philippines are eager to work, it's impossible or any of our citizens here will do that, many are unemployed looking for jobs, maybe IT will be very stupid for that to do it 'cause we're people here are have big problems FINANCIALLY and our gov't doesn't work on use poor citizens. If only they can experience how hard life it is here.
(ID #434178) Posted on 2009/01/03 21:35
anime, programmer, gfx designer, illustrator ^^
lol...the neet program is in effect lol ^^ i was scared to death when growing up by my parents .....it was horrible....they did a bad thing telling me if i stayed inside all the time and dident go out i would get dragged out by the government and sent off to the army lol...if i stayed inside and did not get a job, after i graduated from school lol that was horrible till i found reality that it was not true till i turned 13 lol.....and now i see this the government are hunting down neets !!!!! ahh run away !!! wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww ^^ i don't know this doesn't sound all that right but you do need money to live and you need to get that money by working unless you get money from your parents lol ^^ or have a website were you get money from it lol...father was a neet ^^ now is that funny ? he didn't go out of the house he was on computer all the time but was making websites and made $4,000 a week from it ^^ lol and right now im making websites but im not getting any money from it T_T but i am still in school...
(ID #434184) Posted on 2009/01/03 21:41
Assembly line worker, nationally certified madman
I would probably consider reading through that comment of yours once you reduced the number of lols by at least 95% to make it actually readable. As for now, I'll just lol at you for not being able to communicate.
(ID #435035) Posted on 2009/01/04 14:10
Dyslexic Social Studies student, struggling gundam modeler and gamer
(ID #434187) Posted on 2009/01/03 21:43
Dyslexic Social Studies student, struggling gundam modeler and gamer
Since virtually every country in the world is involved in the economic crisis, I think the occurrence of NEET and Hikikomoris will naturally decrease , since that they would look for formal jobs that would support their living. If they are fanatic otakus, all the more reason for them to look for a job...Jobless otakus can't really satisfy their addictions can they? Just like Sunohara from Clannad said "handicaps are no excuse", yeah there is no excuse for one not to work hard and to look for ways to make their lives better, even though that you have experienced bitter things in the past isn't it better for you to stand up and dig yourself out of that hole of depression. Just like what various JAM Project songs have in their lyrics "Tachiagare!!" (meaning stand up!) I agree with those who said that encouragement is the key, the hunting down of the government may induce fear and anxiety to those NEETs instead.It is inevitable that there would be cases that they would work out of coercion or fear from the government.
(ID #434188) Posted on 2009/01/03 21:43
And just how exactly are they going to send them to work?
(ID #434205) Posted on 2009/01/03 21:51
620 000 NEET ... the initiative of the Japanese government isn't unfounded, but difficult to achieve.
(ID #434211) Posted on 2009/01/03 21:58
call athok. and united nations for human right^^:
(ID #434227) Posted on 2009/01/03 22:13
DCX001-Prototype
Those people that simply dont wanna work & totally rely on the social benefits that their government offer are %^$#@%#%$@ (dont like to rant over here) I was a NEET a.k.a. Hikky for 7months in 2008 reason for psychology recovery................ Thank God, opportunity called up upon me to leave my Hikky status & I took the opportunity to rise up from my depression & back on my life track. All I did while I was NEET was watching anime & playing MMORPG from the moment I wake up till I sleep, although I still maintain some small business running to keep me alive just enough to support my daily needs.
(ID #434229) Posted on 2009/01/03 22:16
meh finding a job aint that hard...even if its a low paying one you gotta do something! hell i was a trash-man for a month, a janitor in a morgue, construction worker, santa (never again, i hate kids after that one!!), working in a giant fridge with meat in it, and i did this in the course of 2 years. basically the problem with people today that they always look for that high paying job and stuff they are qualified to the max, never wanna do stuff they are over qualified. but i'd rather work a low paying job then sit all day at home being mama's little boy.
(ID #434264) Posted on 2009/01/03 22:39
plus there is always the army...
(ID #434266) Posted on 2009/01/03 22:43
The army isn't always a solution. I for instance can't join, since my body apparently can't handle the load you experience in the army (or at least that was what they told me when they checked me). I agree there is often more "simple" work to be had, but I can also understand why some people are reluctant to take such work. If you have spend several years of your life in school to be able to work in a certain branch of jobs, it can be quite annoying to work in a completely different area. It feels as if you've wasted a lot of time. Besides, it's a lot easier to work at a place where when you're actually motivated for it. But then again, it probably is better to do something, no matter how far it is from your original qualifications, than to simply linger about inside your home all day...
(ID #434296) Posted on 2009/01/03 23:17
CG Artist wannabe / Figure Collector / Deadman
the Artist's homepage: http://www.neko.ne.jp/~ein/htm/index_.htm Im a frequent visitor to his site.. there I could come up an idea.
(ID #434320) Posted on 2009/01/03 23:57
Student, Otaku, She-Geek(Sheek lol)
The term NEET originated in the UK? Wow... I did not know.... wow... And Japan is thinking of searching out the Neets and Hikikomoris? I'm not sure how to react to that.... I mean... the people living off benefit in the UK tend to be a nasty kind of person...thats where Chavs came from after all. Do Neets and Hikikomori's get paid benefits?
(ID #434336) Posted on 2009/01/04 00:15
NEETs have human rights to! ^^
(ID #434423) Posted on 2009/01/04 01:42
College student, Mech programmer and striving photographer.
*SIGH* time to find a job...-.- Since I'm currently in college and the semester is almost up, I think I'll look for one after final exams ^^; but I agree, this reminds me of "Welcome to the NHK". How do NEET's and Hikki's live without jobs anyhow? I mean for all we know they could be working through online jobs without getting off of their comfy chairs.
(ID #434478) Posted on 2009/01/04 03:01
Usually I would say to each his own, but when you are leaching off of other you neat to get up and do something about it.
(ID #434520) Posted on 2009/01/04 03:43
The United Federation of NEET's (UFN). heh. Oh yea scary looking totem pole inside room (picture).
(ID #434618) Posted on 2009/01/04 06:16
Anime Store Owner, artist, Web master
lol then I guess I'd be a NNEET (Not currently Needing Employment, Education or Training) since I run my own life with my anime biz :3
(ID #434674) Posted on 2009/01/04 07:29
Anime Store Owner, artist, Web master
yet, I am getting married and I do work hard...sad college in Computer Science was such a waste thanks to outsourcing...the ROI for college today is rather pathetic
(ID #434676) Posted on 2009/01/04 07:32
Anime Store Owner, artist, Web master
don't mean to triple post ^^; but I wanted to add that the people of Selden here are nothing but NEETs who don't attribute to society. People in my town make their money from welfare, disability (though they are not), pension (usually the overpaid mall security we call the Suffolk Police), Social Security and unemployment. While most people in the US are at their jobs, this area is packed with people in the stores and streets that have serious mental/personality issues and make life terrible for those who are working ~_~ Might seem like harsh words but on too many occasions I've defended workers of places I shop or eat at from irate mental cases.
(ID #434685) Posted on 2009/01/04 07:39
Heh, if only they had a union. I know! WE should all start one!~
(ID #434686) Posted on 2009/01/04 07:42
student/ legal assistant/ otaku/ worshipper of dc.com
heyyyyyy, NEETS are neet!
(ID #434955) Posted on 2009/01/04 13:02
Polytechnic Senior, Bronze Lifesaving Trainee, Mech Designer, Pokemon Indexer.
Smells of a 21st century witch-hunt.
(ID #435127) Posted on 2009/01/04 17:02
uncreative (Registered on 2008/08/16 01:50)
Being a NEET isn't something to be proud of. You should be getting an education or a job. And being a hikikomori is even worse. It's a very frightening psychological disorder. I blame Welcome to the NHK for popularizing the term outside of Japan/UK.
(ID #435914) Posted on 2009/01/05 11:11
Student Engineer
Its a complicated situation- while I feel that folks should have the right to do whatever theyw ant with their life, I also believe that working to achieve a goal is a great way to accomplish what you want in life. I am a bit of a hypocrite myself- as much as I despise society my work preserves and protects society itself- go figure. The way I rationalize it is that I am working for what the country could be rather than what it is. If I gave society a chance to become what it needs to, then it wouldn't be my fault if the country blows it and never changes *chuckles*. I am against societal norms in almost every way possible, and at the same time I hate being an extremist about things- I'm not picking on NEET there (or hikikkomori (sp?)) but other "societal cliques" that exist within society. If you can think of what I am talking about, they are probably it. To let people teach others that there is a better way to live (self improvement, namely) is a great goal, even if I never see it happen. Regardless of whether society chooses to change or not, I can be assured that my goal of preserving my life and the lives of those I care about is one I will strive to achieve. Blind? no. Long? yes, but look where that got many people.
(ID #436021) Posted on 2009/01/05 13:55
Student Engineer
in regards to living off welfare and social security- well, I hope you really are either old or disabled for that money, otherwise support yourself. What's a little part time job to kick start a budget for everything you like? When I was younger, I dreaded the possibility of not getting a job. When I started my own neighborhood business (and made $500USD in one summer!) a whole new world of possibilities (manga, everything) lay open before me. When I secure my job, you can betcha my basement will be THE place to hang out- online consoles, a computer, my vintage games (SNES, NES, GENESIS) a great TV, I want it all, and hey, why the hell not throw in some contemporary/modern furniture and a bunch of collectibles and anime figurines? Now if I didn't have a job, that wouldn't be possible. If I had a part time job, I would be on my way to getting it. Not working at all- that will get me depressed that I can't achieve my goal. DOING SOMETHING about not being able to achieve your dream is the way to go. I believe Danny was proactive in his pursuits, and look where it landed him.
(ID #436023) Posted on 2009/01/05 14:00
Dropping computers, starting all over again at Journalism
I can only agree with that if the government is willing to give NEETs a hand to attempt a recovery. Which is more than welcome, because several NEETs are only in that situation because they can't find a solution to their problems. As I see it, most NEETs live like that because they have some sort of problem with society standards, or even health issues. There probably are some cases of people who are just lazy and living on parent's expenses, but not all of them. I completely disagree with people saying that they are all lazy bums, and other offenses used on several comments... mostly from people who are either ignorant, insensitive or just plain stupid. "Oh, I have a job, I contribute to society, thus I have the right to offend others who don't." Some narrowminded views really scares me sometimes. If force alone is used to try to solve the case of those NEETs, maybe some will work for themselves... but I can see lots of those cases adding up to suicide and mass killing statistics. You simply don't deal with cases like that using force alone. And I really thought we already had enough examples in the world to prove that. Let me also add that some very important historical personalities also spent some time in a status that could be called NEET nowadays. Of course this is probably not the case of most NEETs in Japan, but by obliterating by force that condition, you also leave no room for the few who might've become one of those personalities in the future.
(ID #436250) Posted on 2009/01/05 18:17
Thank you for saying that. It was disheartening to see a lot of the harsh, judgemental posts from people who obviously don't understand that the situation is a lot more complicated than people simply thumbing their noses and refusing to work. Seems a lot of people who replied can't even see a reason for this to happen other than willfil rebellion or laziness. A lot of times it's not even about working, and it's certainly not about being lazy. Some individual's situations may be because of that, sure, but definitely not all of them. It's this kind of ignorance that leads to a goverment coming to what basically amounts to Flushing Out The "Freeloaders", in a very alienating way, engaging people who are already very alienated. What the government needs to do is set up programs, or campaigns, that make it easy for these people who wish to, help themselves find jobs that may appeal to them, that they may be unaware of, or find other ways to make the process one they are able to ease into. It may not help everyone, but i'm sure it would help some.
(ID #436497) Posted on 2009/01/05 23:32
Student
Send them to boot camp to force them to rehabilitate.
(ID #436291) Posted on 2009/01/05 19:19
Writer, Illustrator, Collector, and Geek Philosopher
I can see it now: Emperor Palpatine: Execute Order 66... The question is, will you, Danny, as a Stormtrooper, hunt down these NEET Jedi or join the Rebel Alliance?
(ID #437491) Posted on 2009/01/06 15:04
In the picture, I see the girl of my dreams! . . . Ah, exposed myself as a 'homesitter'... :)
(ID #437939) Posted on 2009/01/06 23:38
I don't think NEET are a problem as long as the government isn't paying for their living expenses. If someone who is a NEET is living off another person's paycheque then it's up to that other person to stop supporting them and force them to earn a living.
(ID #438447) Posted on 2009/01/07 10:49
Otaku Programmer/Gamer/Artist/Photographer
WOW looks like Japan is ON THE MOVE!! ^__^ =3
(ID #572112) Posted on 2009/04/21 01:43
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