雑談の少女を蹴る
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Sat 2007/11/24 00:48
『２０日午後７時５５分ごろ、横浜市中区のＪＲ根岸線桜木町－関内駅間を走行中の普通電車（１０両編成）内で、同市栄区桂台１、会社員、森本幸弘容疑者（３５）が、ドア付近でしゃがみ込んで友人２人と雑談していた同市都筑区の無職少女（１７）の背中をけった。少女はドアに顔をぶつけ、前歯を折るなどのけがを負った。ＪＲ関内駅で駅員が通報し、駆けつけた神奈川県警加賀町署員が森本容疑者を傷害容疑で現行犯逮捕した。
調べに対し、森本容疑者は「注意をしたが、やめないので頭にきた」と供述。少女は「いきなりけられた」と話しているという。【鈴木一生】』(痛いニュースさんから引用)
僕もたまにこんなの見ます。この前松戸駅の外にいました。あなただったら、彼女達を蹴りますか？
Kicking a girl is by far the lowest thing you could do as a man.
(ID #64732) Posted on 2007/11/24 00:36
Web Developer/ウェブデベロッパー, Photographer/写真や
He need a nice job in telling them off but kicking regardless of them moving or not would have been wrong. Probably just move to another corner or thread over the girls carefully if I need to get off the train. Are those the ganguro girls?
(ID #64733) Posted on 2007/11/24 00:37
i wouldnt of kicked them...i would a whooped oout my nunchacu and hit them over the head saying " I said move freak!!!" JUST KIDDING!!!!! or am I? yea...i am. i just woud a tapped on the shoulder and told em to move...but if they still didnt move...never mind...ok, ill stop talking now. im getting way off topic...sry.
(ID #64734) Posted on 2007/11/24 00:39
Web Developer/ウェブデベロッパー, Photographer/写真や
Opps. He did and not need ^^;
(ID #64735) Posted on 2007/11/24 00:46
NEET (no, student...)
actually, yes I would. Regardless if it was a guy or a girl. That's a hazard, and is really dangerous. Common sense has been absent recently... It is truly sad...
(ID #64736) Posted on 2007/11/24 00:49
marvin (登録日: 2006/12/24 23:42)
If I were in his shoes, would have been miffed after she turns a deaf ear to the scolding, but kicking her on the head is too harsh a retaliation. I would have tried to find the officer on duty (probably the one who caught the guy kicking the girl) and asked him to tell her off. my guess is the guy probably had a really bad day at the office, then again it's not really an excuse to kick someone's teeth in. well on the upside the girl or any of her friends won't be sitting on the entrance of the train anytime soon. now she can sing, "all I want for Christmas is my two front teeth".
(ID #64737) Posted on 2007/11/24 00:56
Part human, part student, 100% loser
LOL come one... kicking a person is just wrong... So what if you were ignored once just ask again and add a "please", the person might just move because you're so damn annoying... Singaporeans are really shy(LOL), so they are usually obedient and move if told coz it's embarassing when everyone's looking at you... Here, if you blocked the door you might get fined... Hoho, nobody wants to get fined do they?
(ID #64738) Posted on 2007/11/24 00:58
He should never have gone that far. He was right in telling her in the first place that she wasn't sitting properly, but with what tone of voice? Then, he had plenty of options... To ignore her, to call the train or security agents, etc. He should never have been angry about it, to the point of losing control. Especially when you know that adolescents can be a pain in the a**. When you do your own justice The Punisher style, you're bound to pay a heavy price if you're caught. Well, looks like he screwed up. Windbell, I feel it's a female gaijin in the picture, but I may be wrong.
(ID #64741) Posted on 2007/11/24 01:14
Lol. I'm a wimp and would never do something like that, but I can't say that those girls didn't deserve it =P I've never seen anyone sitting at entrances to train carriages here though.
(ID #64742) Posted on 2007/11/24 01:20
52% yes and 48% no. What's up with that? Unless this guy was threatened with a mascara brush, he had no right to kick her.
(ID #64743) Posted on 2007/11/24 01:23
i always see people sitting in front of the entrance here in singapore. they deserved more than a kick in the butt..
(ID #64744) Posted on 2007/11/24 01:25
Ha, I want to see how long a person sitting in the middle of the street lasts, in Miami, before they get ran over. I wouldn't of kicked her, or touched her. Probably, just make her feel like shit. Tell her how she has no respect for others. Let her know that when the day comes when she leaves this safe society she grew up in, the world will swallow her whole. Cause people die every day just because they got on someones nerve. That if I were to physically harm her, in any way (slapping, pushing, etc.), that she should be grateful that at-least she didn't lose her life over something so stupid as sitting in the middle of the entrance to a train. Would she listen, probably not, but if I don't get on the train and say I'll wait for the next once, that moment will stay with her forever. Just as it would if I were to have kicked her. The world isn't always a peaceful place, so show respect. Cause one day you might end up losing the one thing you value the most, just because you thought you deserved special treatment.
(ID #64745) Posted on 2007/11/24 01:35
By the way, psychological warfare is better, safer and less damaging. Would violence solve things? For those who responded "I would kick the girl without hesitation", you are probably taking the easiest path, but also the worst. Now if she doesn't care still, let her pay the ultimate price by hurting herself.
(ID #64746) Posted on 2007/11/24 01:37
Were the females foreigners, or Japanese?
(ID #64747) Posted on 2007/11/24 01:42
i think he just snapped, and went "Falling Down" on her ass. I would be to lazy to even care actually as long as i have my privacy, i dont say that i would go postal on her ass otherwise but there would crying, by words though, no kicks. But maybe it was good that he pushed her teeth in? what if he would supress it even more and come back with a knife/sword/gun/rifle and then go postal, i mean really postal.
(ID #64748) Posted on 2007/11/24 01:53
Graphic Designer/Angry drunk
yes, yes i would resort to kicking-- but only IF that it happened in a crowded train in the US. i don't think i'd have the guts to go through with that in Japan. somehow kicking juvenile delinquents seems more justified in the ole US of A.
(ID #64750) Posted on 2007/11/24 01:56
Watch this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bVR0Yb9uzs Thats a little extreme, though. This guy snapped.
(ID #64751) Posted on 2007/11/24 01:58
Student & Accountant
Maybe the guy lost his job and was feeling irritable?
(ID #64752) Posted on 2007/11/24 02:15
Ouch! Sucks to be him!...and her... If I was trying to get on a train and there was someone blocking my way I would of first politely asked them to move so people can get through, but if I was to ask in a polite way and was ignored, I owuld of snapped and yell at her. Something among the lines of " HEY! Who the hell do you think you are! You're not alone in this world you know! Now Move! People need to get on! God!" Lol! or maybe this (only in a really bad mood case scenerio): "Get the F**K out of the way you stupid thing! You're in my freaking way! God! You selfish people will get what you deserve one day!" Lolz!! But I would never kick/slap/ use any other kind of physical contact to a person that is not threatening to hit me first. I wonder if the man's gunna go to jail/lose his job/ pay the hospital bill. (^-^)' really sucks to be him... =P
(ID #64754) Posted on 2007/11/24 02:21
Interactive Media Design and Graphic Design
that is outrages that people do this. In Washington DC Metro people sometimes stand on the side of the doors and that prevents people from entering as fast which can be very bad if the doors about to close. I think that girl deserved it, I'm not one for violent actions and maybe he should have not kicked her that hard. However that girl is also at fault as well as people who sit like this and block the doors, after all they are not the only people who are taking metro. :-(
(ID #64755) Posted on 2007/11/24 02:23
GO back home ! go back where you came from. creating such a mess in japan. plus after watching the hallowin stuff or what ever that event that those ppl have
(ID #64760) Posted on 2007/11/24 02:54
Hell yeah if the law allows kicking. Such ppl are either brainless or they just cannot be bothered(inconsiderate). I had seen some idiots like these sometimes on the train in my country, although I agree tat our guys will give way when asked. Some similar idiocracy I had seen is to stop and chit chat right in front of the escalator or at the exit the escalator and everyone had to wait for those idiots to notice it and move or do evasive manuevers to dodge them. Its simply putting themselves and others in danger or causing problem for others.
(ID #64761) Posted on 2007/11/24 03:11
Student Engineer
Yeah she appears to be a gaijin (spelling? Im still learning Japanese ^^). Um... I've never ran into someone this stupid but I wouldn't be suprised. I wont use the blonde cliche here but I personally would have said "excuse me". If she ignored me like she did this gentleman I would have said it a bit louder. Depending on my mood I would either try to find someone on duty or enter another car and brush off the situation. The gentleman had no right to kick another person, specifically a minor. Maybe Japan is a bit different on manners in that respect however there were alternatives to kicking her.
(ID #64762) Posted on 2007/11/24 03:24
lizardman in Tokyo
They're just attention whores! let'em sit where they like, i don't care. Good that they arrested the man! I hear too often recently that some psychos attack women with a knife etc. such guys need to be taken out of the public! This man is no exclusion!
(ID #64763) Posted on 2007/11/24 04:12
Troubleshooter, Universal Exports
No I wouldn't kick her just probably, accidentally, step on her. Sure we get this kind of rude behavior here too. In the middle of the street, trying to walk over you when you open a door, etc. Not just the young ones but also adult who should know better. Rude and inconsiderate people need to be on an island all by themselves. I seen to come across more young Japanese like this lately. Maybe it's we just remember rude people more... I glared at a couple of young guys on the train one day. They had seen the pregnant woman and chose to steal the seat. Funny part is after a few minutes they got up and bowed to me. ^^; Probably couldn't stand being reprimanded by a gaijin. ^o^
(ID #64764) Posted on 2007/11/24 04:33
If girls were sitting in the middle of the street over here they'd probably just get run over by a car. You don't see this kind of behavior over here, people usually think twice about where they are going to sit.
(ID #64765) Posted on 2007/11/24 04:49
well, u know society, "mind your own problem and don't say anything to anyone" cause most ppl are rude and prideful SOB's
(ID #64766) Posted on 2007/11/24 04:54
She just get sparta'd
(ID #64767) Posted on 2007/11/24 04:54
LoL @ triplekia Reminds me of one of Tom Green's stunts in Japan- except that no one kicked him...
(ID #64770) Posted on 2007/11/24 05:30
Well when you ask nicely and they still don't respond or make an indecent comment I would of just sat down right by them. Can't beat em, join em!
(ID #64772) Posted on 2007/11/24 05:48
Pull out a gun, and tell them to move out of your way. After they've placed themselves parallel to the door, squirt them with your water gun (gun was fake). Its legal, and shows those wannabe-hippies where they belong; in a seat, or standing. That or you could walk away, then run back at the door scream out loud. People tend to get scared and move. Of course, the down side of this is you'll be labeled the smart/crazy guy on the train.
(ID #64775) Posted on 2007/11/24 06:09
Lol in my region they can't actually sit on the floor cause they'd be times the train staffs would patrol the carriages. But in cases they don't move and no staff is around to help there is always a communicator of sorts to the train control station. But so far I haven't seen the need for that cause no one would sit down like that ~_~
(ID #64778) Posted on 2007/11/24 06:33
Crev
Since I'm a girl, and an underaged one, it's pretty easy for me to kick another girl without getting into legal problems. Yes - those girls deserved to be kicked - they're polluting the beauty of a city - figuratively - OVERPOPULATION of sexually-active females! Ah...!
(ID #64779) Posted on 2007/11/24 06:35
momma always said to keep your pimp hand strong....lol
(ID #64782) Posted on 2007/11/24 07:04
radical anime fan in Singapore; starting to freeze up. Mmm, end-of-year weather. (登録日: 2007/01/25 21:20)
Polytechnic Freshman. Mmm... fresh.
Maybe kicking a girl because she was babbling away it overkill, but for those girls at the door, why kick 'em? BLOW THEM UP INTO F**KING TINY BITS AND SHOVE THE PITS INTO AN INCINERATOR!!!! ...ehhm.
(ID #64784) Posted on 2007/11/24 07:29
I probably wouldn't.... depending on the circunstances. But even if I ask them politely and they still wouldn't move anyways, I'd probably use another door or try to pass forcibly without "kicking" them. You know, it's just not worth getting in trouble, or even getting angry at people like that. But the truth is: If this happened in Brazil, it's likely that someone would toss them out of a moving train. And I can think of even worse things, being them girls and all. If they were men, they would get so beaten...
(ID #64785) Posted on 2007/11/24 07:36
if im in a bad mood i would probably say "move or be treated like a empty can waiting to be kicked" and prepare to kick as i speak X_X
(ID #64788) Posted on 2007/11/24 08:01
Lol, lucky that she only lost her front teeth. She probably would have been pushed and stepped on at other places.
(ID #64789) Posted on 2007/11/24 08:16
Software Engineer
Young kids behaving like that $hit me to tears. I had a run in at McDonals the other day with a young punk smoking in the non-smoking area ... he was told in no uncertain terms to move his sorry a$$.
(ID #64791) Posted on 2007/11/24 08:23
Business Student
Sigh* I will say Did their parents teach them to sit in the middle of the entrance and let others kick or run into them?...No manners sitting where people walking to and fros... My region, never. If they do, they get in trouble from others.
(ID #64792) Posted on 2007/11/24 08:29
Kicking was a bit overkill in my opinion, i think i would just have forced my way through after asking twice.
(ID #64793) Posted on 2007/11/24 08:36
Jesh in Tokyo
If that's the only way a person learns the hard lesson of what a luxury space is in this country, then I endorse this kick 100%. But I also endorse the man's arrest, since it's not his job to kick stupid in-the-way girls. So justice has been done. Twice.
(ID #64800) Posted on 2007/11/24 09:40
anti-loli > obviously those are blonde girls. no doubt about that. Look at the skin colour and hair colour, dye won't be like this and look at her friend around her, its soo obvious they are not local ot japan. They deserve the kick, such a bitchy, careless attitude and still thinking highly about themselves and what they are doing is right.
(ID #64802) Posted on 2007/11/24 09:48
Telling someone to get out of the way and actually pushing/kicking them are two different things. The salaryman was wrong.
(ID #64804) Posted on 2007/11/24 10:03
Rogie in EU, Czech Republic
I would have never kicked em. I'm against all violence against women. Guys who would do that are ruffians. Ok, these girls might be young, stupid, not-conforming to society ... but doesnt give a guy right to use physical violence to show them otherwise. We're not in f*cking medieval.
(ID #64805) Posted on 2007/11/24 10:15
Lux in Arg
lol, 50% support overkills... kicking a girl in the face is just wrong, how come most of you don't get it? Would you beat down your 17yo daughter for just being annoying?
(ID #64806) Posted on 2007/11/24 10:18
here the busses are always crowded so yoyu have to make your way...and maybe when you had or you are having a bad way people or maybe you move them aside to pass trough
(ID #64808) Posted on 2007/11/24 10:35
random hiki
It depends on if she was blocking the way, if not, simply walk around. If it's a train with a small entrance that only halts for a very short time (subway) not leaving the option to call officials or to engage in extended loud argumentation... the ankles are easy to very painfully dislocate by "accidentally" stepping on the feet while pushing yourself through. It should not matter if it's a male or female, maybe using less force on the more fragile.. anything else would be sexist. As you can see from my name this a all purely hypothetical ^^;
(ID #64812) Posted on 2007/11/24 11:02
Kimurasenseii in France
Notice them to move politely, if they simply ignore me NO WAY I KICK THEM, but I force my way inside and I probably "accidentally" step on her foot. We don't have those kind of attitude in France, actually problems are more like smoking area aren't respected (but not only the youngest...). Concerning the young, it's more frequently a noise problem ^^ Particulary in train, speaking so loud in their cell phone, MP3 player I can hear clearly from the other side of the wagon. Most of passengers won't say anything, some ask them to lower the volume. Reaction is most of the time they won't excuse but they lower the sound, and a minority will start a dispute...
(ID #64814) Posted on 2007/11/24 11:20
ひまななし
できる事なら蹴りたいね。 分別が求められる年齢なのに、公衆の面前での 振舞い方が出来ない奴は、人間として扱う必要無し。家畜動物として扱って良し。
(ID #64815) Posted on 2007/11/24 11:21
Director/代表取締役
ひまななしさん、 (笑!) Triplekia, LOL. BTW, did you like that film? Calintz , Yikes! MACdaddy, I'm just guessing Japanese. News articles would normally mention if they were gaijin. Windbell, Ganguro are usually darker.
(ID #64818) Posted on 2007/11/24 11:32
i had seen kids (mostly boys) sitting on the floor of trains here. but thankfully, they have the decency to at least sit at the opposite side of the entrance. anyway as for the question, no i wouldn't kick the girl. it's just wrong
(ID #64830) Posted on 2007/11/24 14:17
Oi, I can't answer this poll. I mean, if I was REALLY friggin pissed off, i would. Swear to god I would. But if I wasn't. . . . .Falcon punch?
(ID #64835) Posted on 2007/11/24 15:03
I would most definitely kick the bitch. She won't just lose her teeth if I were the salaryman.
(ID #64836) Posted on 2007/11/24 15:10
Double posting here! :X But if they were insisting in blocking my way, kicking is a little too harsh. Maybe turning and showing the other face... you know, the other cheeks. The buttcheeks. And then farting. Oh yes, if you are gonna stay seated there, might as well enjoy the wind.
(ID #64837) Posted on 2007/11/24 15:16
I wouldn't "kick" her, maybe just a good old lecture like Bus Uncle's
(ID #64849) Posted on 2007/11/24 16:51
I most certainly wouldn't kick them (I'd be too afraid that they might kick back... women can be deceptively strong) but I'd definetly tell them to move their arses in the most colourful way I can manage.
(ID #64856) Posted on 2007/11/24 19:45
In New York City, Sitting in a Subway door is a great way to get trampled. Occasionally, I've seen people do it after hours, but it's very rare.
(ID #64858) Posted on 2007/11/24 19:50
Hobby Store clerk guy thing...
Kick? -Maybe- Mouth-full of coarse and abrasive language? Most likely Not much of that kind of behaviour here, though you do get the occasional drunkard here and there.
(ID #64860) Posted on 2007/11/24 20:32
Don't get people sat in the doors of trains around here..... they'd be yelled at by just about everyone if they did.
(ID #64864) Posted on 2007/11/24 21:44
Yeah there are people like that here. And no i wouldn't kick them. It'll just bite you in the butt later on with them suing you and all that. God bless America!
(ID #64878) Posted on 2007/11/25 01:46
Architecture Student, Freelace Painter & Designer; Inventor.