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日本語/Japanese  Fri 03/07 14:07 JST
Was watching on TV last night about how mobile phone manufacturers are in a bit of a bother because the number of folk handing in their old mobile phones for recycle is on the decline.

Mobile phone collection boxes like this one can be found in places like convenience/electronic department stores for folk to drop off their unwanted mobiles. Mobile phone manufaturers want your unwanted phones because of the recyclable material they are able to extract. In 2005, Docomo (carrier and manufacturer) was able to extract 37,993 Kilos of copper and 145 Kilos of gold from old mobile phones.

The main reasons for the decline of hand-ins are due to the beefed up features that the phones come with. Even without a contract, one can still use their phone for watching TV, listening to radio/MP3 tunes, playing games and most importantly - use to wipe ones bottom on.

Another reason why hand-ins are on the decline is because users said that they want to keep data like mail, phone numbers etc in their previous phone.

As for me, my first retired mobile was a Docomo phone which I gave away. The second one served me well at Amazon as I could use it in and out of Japan but everything else about it was crap - it ended up in the bin.

Had a Blackberry when I was in Seattle for 5 months - still got it but will bin it during the next spring cleaning session - unusable in Japan.
The phone you see in this photo is my current W41CA by Casio. The screen is nice n bright and it comes with a browser so that I can check the site when on the move and log into my gmail account - will probably end up keeping it as an emergency camera. Wont be getting a new phone until the iPhone hits Japanese shores - lord knows when that will be.

What do you do with your retired mobile phone? Give it away, throw it away (or at someone) or sell it?
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n1ck in Malaysia
Student
Registered on 2007/09/03 21:01
By the time i decide to change phone.
It will be junk.
So I will just keep it as a spare. In case i lose my new one, or if my family needs one
(ID #151464) Posted on 2008/03/06 22:31
Panther in Urban Hell (Singapore)
Deathseeker
Registered on 2007/12/24 09:20
Whoever uses a cell/handphone to wipe one's bottom needs to be thrown into a mental institution and examined thoroughly for mental delusions, breakdown and any other possible psychological ailment.
 
And we do have trade-in plans here, Danny. You are allowed to trade in your old phones for price slashes off your newer ones depending on what model your older phone is. I usually do that, probably they take them for recycling too.
(ID #151465) Posted on 2008/03/06 22:33
frozenrei in Toronto
Registered on 2007/12/09 08:21
I use my old phones as storage or a mp3 player, if it still has a use it stays
(ID #151466) Posted on 2008/03/06 22:35
elmimmo in Tokyo
Registered on 2008/02/07 21:03
I have a W51CA, which I guess is not that different. Sorry to be an ass, Danny, but you get to check dannychoo.com on it? Last time I tried your site was too much for both lame-o-browsers this junk has.

I hate it (laaaaaaag), but I guess I would hate pretty much any other phone.
(ID #151467) Posted on 2008/03/06 22:37
Mac in Podunk, USA
IT monkey/consultant
Registered on 2006/12/29 03:14
In the US there are several programs to give retired cell phones to women's shelters (since the phones can be used for emergency numbers, whether or not they have an active account), or to send phones to soldiers overseas to be used to call family.  

Phones being kept due to the non-portability of data of the data on them is the arrogance of the phone manufacturers coming back to bite them.  Despite all the fancy features on Japanese phones, I still can't shake the feeling that the manufacturers have no respect for the consumer due to problems like this.  
(ID #151472) Posted on 2008/03/06 22:52
Hyun-Bin in Sydney Australia / Busan Korea
Sterilization Technician@ Prince Of Wales Hospital
Registered on 2007/01/09 22:47
Danny , mind recycling your phone to me :)?

hahaha :D i use a Samsung A701 
on a 3G network , great for watching TV and browsing net , :D
(ID #151475) Posted on 2008/03/06 22:56
Hirito in The Little Red Dot - Singapore
ORD!! Now awaiting Uni admission.
Registered on 2007/09/01 18:24
Hardly ever changed phones! My first ever phone, Nokia 3310, which I had since 2000, is still in working condition and is now being a hand-me-down to my younger cousins who enlist into National Service, because in the army we can't hold on to camera phones and my cousins don't want to buy a new non-camera phone. 

The phone I had after the 3310, was the 7210, which my sis gave me in 2005 because she couldn't stand to watch me still using the 3310. But in the end the phone was passed to my mother to use soon after as I had enlisted, and I got myself a Motorola V200 for use during army life. 

All I can say is the phones I had used are all being "reused", so it's well-used and worth the money. Can't wait to get out of army and I'll donate my V200 to other cousins for their term in the army, and at the same time get a new phone!!
(ID #151476) Posted on 2008/03/06 23:00
XSportSeeker in Brazil
Hikikomori
Registered on 2007/08/22 05:30
In Brazil you don't need recycling... because you usually buy another cellphone when your gets robbed.

:P Ok, I might be exageratting here.

But here's my experience (my family): My mom got her a cellphone because of her work. Morotola Startac (remember those?).
After a long time, I got mine... a brick grayscale Nokia.
My mom got robbed from her Startac... so she got another one, a Nokia that was on sale.

After that I got my first GSM phone. A shitty Nokia 7710, worst phone I've ever seen. Felt like some prototype that shouldn't be released in the first place.

After a while, my mom got her cellphone robbed once again, so I gave her my previous Nokia.

That one was also robbed, so she bought a flip Nokia with big buttons which she's using 'till now, GSM.

As for me, I managed to sell 7710 somehow and bought my current phone... a Sony Ericsson W810i, my best phone so far.

Now I'm thinking of getting another phone only when Sony Ericsson releases something as small as W810i, with GPS, 3 to 5Mpx camera, and fair price. Xperia X1 is looking good, but I don't really need a Smartphone... so I'd rather wait for a beefed up normal cellphone without qwerty keyboard, Windows Mobile, or other stuff that might give me more headaches than help me.

I was once willing to buy Nokia N95, but after using it a while (my friend has one), I'm glad I didn't. Nowadays, I simply don't think of getting a Nokia cellphone ever again.

And thus, the cellphone saga ends.
(ID #151480) Posted on 2008/03/06 23:05
wcloudx in Singapore
Artist
Registered on 2008/01/12 03:00
I keep my old Mobile Phones ^^; I'm using Nokia N81 right now and still keeping my old N-Gage, the 1st one, and Nokia 3310 incase anything happens XD

I would have gotten an IPhone if not because of the single provider thingy >_>;
(ID #151483) Posted on 2008/03/06 23:14
wcloudx in Singapore
Artist
Registered on 2008/01/12 03:00
Oh and btw, is that orange phone the same one that Cyril Takayama used to do his "Lacoste" magic tricks? :o
(ID #151485) Posted on 2008/03/06 23:18
gordon in 新加坡 Singapore
宅男 Otaku/ 工程师 Engineer
Registered on 2007/06/11 14:57
in singapore, people change their phones all the time, usually within one or 2 years or even a few months! 

That is why there are lot of 2nd hand phone shops around the neighborhood that will greatly buy your phone and resell it elsewhere. 
(ID #151489) Posted on 2008/03/06 23:27
LightChan in London, England
Student - Free lance graphic designer and musician
Registered on 2008/01/26 16:57
I keep mine, give it to close friends if they're in need.

But my iPhone is something I'll never get bored of.
I hope they come out in Japan by the time I'm studying there.
(ID #151495) Posted on 2008/03/06 23:42
Henry in Makati, Philippines
anime/cosplay events organizer
Registered on 2006/12/25 19:17
i usually keep my old mobile phones. maybe someday i could use them again for emergencies ^^

the government together with some major telecom companies and mobile phone companies had joined forces to have a Phone Recycling project and placed some mobile phone and accessories bin in malls throughout the metro ^^
(ID #151500) Posted on 2008/03/06 23:56
The_WOZ in Trelew (Chubut) Argentina
Woodcrafter/3D Modeler
Registered on 2006/12/25 04:08
I don't own a cellphone!!!

Muhahaha! (evil laughter) :P
(ID #151501) Posted on 2008/03/07 00:00
leefe in a tincan.
Lazyass human
Registered on 2007/08/15 20:25
I'm only at my second handphone, but for me as long as it's still in operable condition I'd keep it as an alarm clock. XD
I never have enough of them.
(ID #151504) Posted on 2008/03/07 00:23
student learning to be an accountant
Registered on 2008/02/26 15:45
i have been using mobile for 5 yrs only and have only changed it once after 4 yrs of use and still at the end sold it it was nokia 1100 hehehe got 1500 Rs. for it bought it for 5000 Rs. Nokia phones have a good second hand mobile market where i live. next time i will chage when i will get a job soon i hope then will buy a one with lots of functionalities . :)
(ID #151506) Posted on 2008/03/07 00:32
Subarunyon in Canada
Student
Registered on 2007/08/24 08:01
@Hirito: Oh cmon, 3310 was the shit! It's like the best phone design ever xD extremely fast navigation, nice buttons, and can handle being dropped from even 10 m drop! what more could you want in a phone? I guess being thinner would help.

I've heard that somewhere else before though... "I can't stand seeing you still use the 3310", but dont we all 3310 users love it so much there doesnt seem to be any need to change? ^^; 

3310 users speak out! xD
(ID #151507) Posted on 2008/03/07 00:33
silentkey in Singapore
Student (for now), Uncle
Registered on 2008/01/24 22:27
Kept as spare...National service requirements...
(ID #151511) Posted on 2008/03/07 00:49
Benjamin Takeyo in Lieu de la batille decisive
ひきこもり/Hikikomori. Suits my current state more than a 大学生/University Student. ^^
Registered on 2007/12/04 23:16
145 Kilos of gold - wow so there are parts of mobile phones that are made out of gold.

As for my old mobiles, they're broken now, but not before they had been re-used by my parents for some years.
(ID #151513) Posted on 2008/03/07 00:50
jowy in philippines
vendor
Registered on 2008/01/23 08:25
I have 2 cellphone that i used and i never throw it in trash. It has my memories of my high school days to me.
(ID #151514) Posted on 2008/03/07 00:50
FatBastard in over his head
Meat Puppet
Registered on 2007/11/04 18:16
Coincidently, I will be shoppin for a new unlocked phone in Asia in just a bit. Have a few ideas, but won't decide on which one til I'm there. 
I would consider gettin an iPhone, but Apple and Rogers (Canada's only GSM network) can never get their shite together and hammer out a deal. I've told Danny before that he'll probably get iPhone before me even though Japan uses 3G, and doesn't use GSM. Could get it cracked with software, but Apple keeps locking it with every firmware update.
I actually still have an BIG nokia analog cell lying around. Everytime I throw it at someone to get rid of it they always throw it back. No love.
(ID #151515) Posted on 2008/03/07 00:52
Meimi132 in Back end of nowhere, aka Norfolk, England
Student and Mcdonalds Grease monkey.
Registered on 2007/12/04 04:17
Retire? Who said anything about retire? I've had the same phone since 2003. It's indestructable... a Nokia 3510i. I just can't be arsed to buy a new one. And it still works, and I have anime ring tones(Google on your phone WOOO) It has internet and games, no camera(:sob:) but I'm used to it. Need a new case though, my hello kitty case is REALLY scabby now lol.

And the 3310 ROCKED. There was nothing wrong with it. It worked, had Snake.(only thing the 3510i didnt do right.... had to download Snake...:sob:) What more could you want from a mobile at the time?


And btw Choo-san, you've mentioned a figure-givaway/competition a couple of times now, how about a competition where you photograph your favourite figure, and the best photo wins? (Just photo, no photo-shopping)
Or a competition to draw Mirai-chan? New outfit for Mirai-chan?
(ID #151516) Posted on 2008/03/07 00:52
ilgeek in Mexico DF
Graphic Designer
Registered on 2008/01/11 11:10
I keep my old cell phone, in Mexico there's no recycle program for old gadgets, but after read this post I'm gonna start to look for old cell phones to much Gold to be wasted... ^. ^;
(ID #151518) Posted on 2008/03/07 01:05
Akiba-Kid in California, USA
Online Shop
Registered on 2008/01/17 11:35
My first and still current phone, my mom took it after she accidently washed her jacket with her phone in it...  So she took my phone and put in her sim card in it, end of story -_-  I'll probably get my own phone with better features soon though.  My friend have IPhone and it does look great, not sure I'll get it until the price falls.
(ID #151522) Posted on 2008/03/07 01:41
squee in Singapore
Techie
Registered on 2007/09/27 05:11
I've had a Ericsson SH888> Motorola Startec> Sony Ericsson T68i> Sony Ericsson Z800i and now the Sony Ericsson P1i.

The first 2 phones were traded in and most likely ended up being recycled. 
I'm keeping the T68i for times when I need to be back serving the country like the other Singaporeans due to the 'no camers' rule in military camps.
As for the Z800i I'm keeping it as a spare.
(ID #151524) Posted on 2008/03/07 01:49
CrazyAnimeTuga in Portugal
Student
Registered on 2007/01/03 02:12
Normally here when we don't want a phone anymore we don't keep it, we drop them at those boxes as well but we never find a single one there XD only battery chargers. What people normally do is when we go buy a new phone we give them the old one and we get a 10€ discount on the new phone. 

Every mobile phone seller does that here, that's why people don't keep their old phones cause its very easy to get a new one here cause we don't have contracts, you charge the phone with money at an atm machine at free will ^^
(ID #151525) Posted on 2008/03/07 01:55
chun in home feeling sleepy LOL
part time illustrationist, doll clothing seamstress
Registered on 2007/01/09 14:33
I let my kid sis have my phone when I left SG and she totally trashed my phone to the point that they eventually got a new phone for her (grrr) and I liked my old phone too (2nd phone after the first phone was lost). When in canada, think first phone was sold, 2nd phone was crap, current phone's battery life is horrid too but I don't use the phone much anyways heh
(ID #151529) Posted on 2008/03/07 02:36
JockeII in Sweden
NEET
Registered on 2008/01/19 23:21
Lol, nice business idea to put up bins like that and then extract all the copper and gold for profit.

Though, people in Sweden are way too cheap to throw away their old phones. They will keep them forever in a drawer (or sell them). Just like we do with the plastic bags from the conveniece store. You do not live in a swedish household if you don't have a collection of plastic bags somewhere.
(ID #151530) Posted on 2008/03/07 02:40
lchen in Brooklyn, NYC
illustrator
Registered on 2007/12/19 12:57
recycle them! in the US it's gotten a bit easier to recycle electronics. and phones r easy to mail/take to recycling places.
(ID #151531) Posted on 2008/03/07 02:51
CyruzDraxs in Kelowna, BC, Canada
Web Design & Development
Registered on 2007/09/11 09:43
My first phone lasted 9 days and then died and the phone store wouldn't replace it because their '3 month warranty' only covers phones that are defective out of the box. My second phone was a polished turd that I enjoyed lighting on fire and watching it burn when I got my third phone, which I'm still using.
(ID #151533) Posted on 2008/03/07 03:08
jjjlmx in México
Registered on 2007/07/10 01:43
In my city there is no option for that in firt place. 

But thats is not an excuse, probably i keep it even with the recicler bin near.
(ID #151535) Posted on 2008/03/07 03:28
(VH)Hakushaku in US(United Shame)
Insane Student
Registered on 2008/02/27 11:52
Now these day everyone seem to have cell phone even little kids...Kodomo No Jikan every loli got a cellphone @_@
(ID #151539) Posted on 2008/03/07 03:38
Tourak in Canada, Quebec
Student
Registered on 2007/12/20 09:45
I dont have a cell nor ever did I, would cost too much to get one so I'm trying to avoid getting one for aslong as I can. Instead, I prefer using MSN/Skype to contact other people. ^^;
(ID #151541) Posted on 2008/03/07 03:45
Last{[0]}Raven in ☆DANNYCHOO Site ☆
Raven, AMV & MAD maker, Otaku
Registered on 2008/01/02 12:55
here in korea they sell it and switch it to a new one. or they make the phone about to be replaced a bit cheaper when you give your old phone to them
(ID #151543) Posted on 2008/03/07 03:49
Katsuyoshi in Poland
Perv
Registered on 2007/11/11 03:20
I'm using my old phone as a practical notepad for important info ^^
(ID #151547) Posted on 2008/03/07 04:38
EagleEye in Brighton, UK
Computer Engineer
Registered on 2007/04/03 04:17
I generally put them in my cupboard and hope that they will magically disappear. They do though, never do...     
(ID #151548) Posted on 2008/03/07 04:38
qingy in center of the galaxy
SMS
Registered on 2007/10/06 05:09
i usually sell my used phones for a decent buck. the phone i'm using right now is a blackberry pearl 8100. sold my iphone 3 weeks ago and got an ipod touch. i've never heard of any ads for phone recycling programs here.
(ID #151552) Posted on 2008/03/07 05:22
Registered on 2007/12/19 15:31
i just sell my old phone for a few bucks.  good enough.  it's been three years since i had a new phone.  for some reason i couldn't let go of my p910i.  now if only i'd get new phone to replace that.  
(ID #151572) Posted on 2008/03/07 07:36
Setsuna-san in Selangor, Malaysia
VF-25 Pilot. Universariate Scholar.
Registered on 2007/07/06 10:07
i usually trade in my old phone to help shoulder the cost of a new phone.

btw i heard that phones in japan are really cheap. any truth to that?

on an unrelated topic: the number i got for this time was 9000
(ID #151574) Posted on 2008/03/07 07:42
Neil Duckett in Yoyogi, Tokyo
Software Engineer
Registered on 2007/11/06 13:37
Can't wait for the iPhone myself. Yesterdays apple conference there was NO mention of it. Looks like it will be 2009 at the earliest.
(ID #151583) Posted on 2008/03/07 08:29
qingy in center of the galaxy
SMS
Registered on 2007/10/06 05:09
you guys realize that by the time the iPhone comes out in Japan, there will be a lot better phones on the market right? unless Apple puts in some new snazzy features, i doubt it'll sell well as a phone. the two biggest reasons why i sold my iPhone was because of the battery life (i thought it was a defect, but happened twice) and the fact that it wasn't living up to my expectations as a cellphone. trust me when i say to pass on this one, unless you absolutely must must must have every single Apple product when they're launched.
(ID #151587) Posted on 2008/03/07 08:54
Kururu_luva in Richmond, BC Canada
Registered on 2007/01/20 17:05
Nice Phone
(ID #151592) Posted on 2008/03/07 09:08
syrix in U.S.
student
Registered on 2007/03/21 09:30
I sell mine, a student needs to survive lol.
(ID #151598) Posted on 2008/03/07 09:23
anonymouszro in a place beside a mouse
mouse clicker
Registered on 2007/08/23 07:07
if i don't lose my phone before i need a new one, i'll give it to my siblings or parents.  haven't sold one before.  also, i usually keep 2 phones just in case.
(ID #151606) Posted on 2008/03/07 09:53
Meowsa in Tokyo, Japan
teacher
Registered on 2008/02/23 20:14
Setsuna-san 

I find phones in Japan expensive haha. 
Way too much for something I will barely use... but like anywhere you can get some sort of contract that gives you the free phone or at least a small monthly fee to buy it over a couple of years. 
(ID #151608) Posted on 2008/03/07 09:55
Huk in SG
Registered on 2006/12/24 11:46
I m still using a phone I got for FREE 6 years ago when I was forced to swtich my pager to handphone.

If the world is full of peeps like me, the whole economy will collapse.

But still I think the current state is over consumerism and wastage.

BTW just a tidbit, durables such as electrical appliances were built to last forever pre 70s, until the makers realised that so doing will cause them to go bust eventually. Thus nowadays everything u own have atleast a "self-destruct" components which will cause your item to breakdown on average within 2-4 years.
(ID #151625) Posted on 2008/03/07 10:38
-XYZPDQ in Pennsylvania, United States
Student Engineer
Registered on 2007/01/01 14:12
ehh neither of the four. When I need a new mobile the dealer takes it and gives me a new one. I assume they will send it back for extraction of raw materials.

Went in though and requested a new battery last week, $40 USD! I am still on my main phone, I don't need special features or packages, speed dials and a phone are all I need =)
(ID #151633) Posted on 2008/03/07 11:01
BeLe in Davao, Philippines
.NET/Web Developer
Registered on 2007/01/03 16:36
I never throw away my old things.  Either I just keep them or I pass them down to my relatives/siblings.  I even still have my old 3210 nokia phone. heheh! I use it sometimes in case my phone's battery dies and I need to use one imediately. 
(ID #151647) Posted on 2008/03/07 12:35
Clyne in Singapore
Sale Asst Who wants Easy-going Life
Registered on 2007/07/13 17:22
Hey danny, nice phone u got there. Mine is the Nokia E65 which i got from my dad. the only thing i enjoy with my phone is to surf net wirelessly.
(ID #151660) Posted on 2008/03/07 13:01
qingy in center of the galaxy
SMS
Registered on 2007/10/06 05:09
@No one in particular
Question for you, do phones in Japan come unlocked? Or do you need to do it yourself? I hate phones that are locked, it defeats the purpose of getting them in the first place. And because companies like Rogers have such a monopoly on the communication industry over here, most people need to sign a contract to buy a phone that has a cheap logo engraved on it or permanently installed in the firmware so that it loads up everytime the phone starts.
(ID #151669) Posted on 2008/03/07 13:26
iroiromode in Los Angeles
Journalist
Registered on 2008/03/03 17:16
Recycling a Japanese phone to an American would be like one man's trash is another man's treasure. Except that treasure is useless (in the states).

I've never trashed any of my old phones, I think they're just sitting in my car trunk dusting away. I currently have an Asian Samsung E870 that I'm about ready to change.
(ID #151672) Posted on 2008/03/07 13:32
radical anime fan in Dai-Singapore-dan. Hotter than Kamina and Lelouch combined.
Polytechnic Freshman. Mmm... fresh.
Registered on 2007/01/25 21:20
I don't have a retired phone. First one I ever got was a Sony Eriksson T105 from my uncle as a farewell/inheritance? gift, LOL.
(ID #151673) Posted on 2008/03/07 13:34
andra in Singapore
Secondary Student~
Registered on 2007/11/06 14:19
people here usually trade in their old phones for new one every 2 years (more like 21 months?)

me using Nokia 6210 now, passed my old Nokia 3210 to my dad, his ancient phone can be burnt in the canal already.
(ID #151818) Posted on 2008/03/07 16:31