Gundam Defends Japan

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日本語/Japanese
Wed 2007/10/31 00:46
After Japan lost the last war, they signed a treaty that stated that Japan was not allowed to form an army of humans. But there was nothing in the treaty mentioning that Japan wasn't allowed to form an army of Gundams...

The Japanese Ministry of Defense is holding a Defense Technology Symposium where part of the program covers "Towards the realization of Gundam" - the program is available in PDF format on the Department of Ground Systems Development page.
Below is a snap of the PDF file showing "Towards The Realization Of Gundam (Advanced Personal Equipment Systems)" which kinda stipulates some sort of walker suit but you never know...

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windbell in Singapore/シンガポール, Tokyo/東京 (Registered on 2006/12/25 13:08)
Web Developer/ウェブデベロッパー, Photographer/写真や
Are there freelance pilots? ^^;
(ID #61534) Posted on 2007/10/31 00:37
DRAGUN in Arizona, USA (Registered on 2007/08/23 05:32)
Design Consultant
Ah, no. There arent freelance that I have ever heard about. The only drawback to joining the army to pilot a gundam, is it would probably end up like the army or the airforce now. A bunch of people want to fly jets, and most of them sit around doing other things. The very lucky few actually get to fly. We can all dream though. 
(ID #61535) Posted on 2007/10/31 00:44
DRAGUN in Arizona, USA (Registered on 2007/08/23 05:32)
Design Consultant
I dont know how far off these are. Imagine being the generation that sees this enormous machines come to life. We have all the available technology, screens, cameras, lasers, and firepower. Carbon science is advancing and stronger and stronger armors are being developed all the time. I always wondered why advancement has not proceeded in this area.
(ID #61537) Posted on 2007/10/31 00:48
Piro in New Zealand (Registered on 2007/06/11 17:36)
Studnet
REALLY?!?!
man tht would be awesome but America would find an some reason other than WMD to have a pre-emptive strike just to steal it all away
(ID #61538) Posted on 2007/10/31 00:51
Barsona in California USA (Registered on 2007/08/03 09:24)
NEET (no, student...)
here we go...  the gundam invasion...  I want a valkyrie invasion also..
(ID #61539) Posted on 2007/10/31 00:54
Edward in SE Michigan/Osaka (Registered on 2006/12/24 12:50)
Troubleshooter, Universal Exports
It's about time someone started building Gundams...
(ID #61540) Posted on 2007/10/31 01:11
Hangmen13 in Sabah, Malaysia (Registered on 2007/04/21 22:07)
Aimless Traveler
Yes, I'm interested in piloting a yellow horned, multicolored machine with beamspam capabilities and hoping to meet a mask rival in the battlefield piloting a red-colored machine that went 3 times faster than usual ones. Problem is, I lack the qualification of looking rather effeminate as well as lacking the necessary personality of being a whiny, brooding, unstable, emotional young man.
(ID #61541) Posted on 2007/10/31 01:11
Tiny Red Man in Shingapooru.. (Registered on 2007/04/11 17:39)
do they plan to build mechas from Sky Girls and Gurren Lagann as well? XD
(ID #61542) Posted on 2007/10/31 01:17
Alafista OTAKU in Singapore (Registered on 2006/12/25 12:22)
Policy & Research Officer
Nah joining the army they probably would give you some lousy gundams to pilot. 

Based on my gundam watching experience, you should start searching for some radical organization that wants to save the world and stop the war with their 4  awesome gundams.
(ID #61543) Posted on 2007/10/31 01:18
skankywonders in California (Registered on 2007/08/09 06:24)
Student
I knew it, I KNEW IT! 


GUNDAMS WILL BE REAL IN THE FUTURE!!!! 


YES!!!!
(ID #61545) Posted on 2007/10/31 01:24
Sotb in Malaysia (Registered on 2007/08/22 13:17)
Manufacturing
yes gundam! I most likely wont to pilot one! But it would be even better if they gave me VF21 from Macross Plus!

Do u think the agility of the gundam will be as good as the movie! I dun want to end up kill by tanks or notmal jet plane!
(ID #61546) Posted on 2007/10/31 01:26
erickosan in Frisco Texas USA (Registered on 2007/01/04 16:07)
nurse
Mobile suits are not just a dream...We should remember that almost all the modern technologies we see and feel today are products of mans incredible imagination...from the Da Vinci's contraptions, to Star trek's gizmos. There is an idea, I have no doubt it will become a realization in the not so distant future or should I say that it's already being done and existing but we just don't know anything about it for now.
(ID #61547) Posted on 2007/10/31 01:27
Dors in Florida (Registered on 2007/09/02 12:13)
Stocker
The capabilities of the gundams, especially its thrusters and proportion systems are way beyond our current machanical capabilities. 
However if there be a viable gundam-like machine, I would join the underdogs and maintain their stubborn ideology.
(ID #61549) Posted on 2007/10/31 01:33
i'm mr. danger in Florida (Registered on 2007/08/17 10:33)
student
if gundams were real i would join the army in a heartbeat
(ID #61550) Posted on 2007/10/31 01:33
Ken in NYC (Registered on 2007/03/15 23:26)
Student
Just joining the army will not exactly get you a gundam. You will need an extraordinary amount of trust before they put something worth millions (or billions) of dollars into your hands. The problem is, human life is not worth that much. I love the idea of having gundams, but it scares me enough how we have problems with nuclear weapons already.
(ID #61553) Posted on 2007/10/31 01:47
kingdomkey (Registered on 2007/10/16 15:19)
It would be even better if they had fin funnel system :x
(ID #61555) Posted on 2007/10/31 02:16
squee in Singapore (Registered on 2007/09/27 05:59)
Techie
I guess the most technologically viable thing to build at this time would only be the guntank....
(ID #61556) Posted on 2007/10/31 02:24
Hachiko in Toronto, Ontario, Canada (Registered on 2006/12/26 12:01)
Student
Woot~ I'm one step closer from piloting a Gundam Mk-II ^^;
(ID #61558) Posted on 2007/10/31 02:33
codename:v in Malaysia
A mobile suit is way too tall for operations and taking cover from strikes, not to mention too clumsy to walk on its own and may cause more destructions than defending Tokyo...
Wanzers amd labors are more likely to be realize because their are smaller, faster and lighter, suit for urban combat.
Who knows? Maybe China and US already got MSs...
(ID #61561) Posted on 2007/10/31 02:39
FEARtactics in Canada (Registered on 2007/06/18 13:05)
Student
-_-", real giant robots would make the worst kind of war machines... cool... but not very effective. Smaller robots would make sense, but you don't get the feel of sitting inside it....
(ID #61562) Posted on 2007/10/31 02:40
3den in Takasaki City!! (Registered on 2007/03/16 16:49)
gundum
sure is will be a good shooting target for the airforce, tanks, rpg, artilery, and missles.
(ID #61563) Posted on 2007/10/31 02:41
bluki in Outer Heaven (Registered on 2007/08/16 19:52)
Monster
awesome................ anime really inspires real world isn't it? lol
(ID #61564) Posted on 2007/10/31 02:52
Aya Kyunik in Melbourne, Australia (Registered on 2007/05/22 17:26)
Hobby Store clerk guy thing...
As awesome as it would be, unlikely we'll get anything like a Gundam in terms of today's warfare.

Closest thing we "could" get is a walker, and even then they'd be a problem in nearly every field from maintenance to urban survivability.

I don't think humanoid war machines will be realised until there's a major change in the way warfare operates
(ID #61565) Posted on 2007/10/31 02:57
Setsuna-san in Selangor, Malaysia (Registered on 2007/07/06 10:55)
VF-25 Pilot. Universariate Scholar.
personally, i prefer the Arm Slaves from Full Metal Panic.(especially ARX-7) but i would not mind having Gundams as well.
I think the ministry chose to focus on gundams because it has been around for a long time and is probably better known compared to other mechas. 
(ID #61567) Posted on 2007/10/31 03:07
syrix in U.S. (Registered on 2007/03/21 10:18)
student
It's finally happening ^^, giant robots defending Japan lol.  Can't wait to see Godzilla and all those other big monsters fight the Gundam.
(ID #61568) Posted on 2007/10/31 03:08
Syugo in Tokyo/Akihabara (Registered on 2008/03/28 01:42)
super otaku, doujin-ka
And the androids saga is here but there is no Son Goku in sight
(ID #230439) Posted on 2008/07/05 13:11
AK-kun in Singapore (Registered on 2007/06/19 23:36)
Writer.
Come to think of it, I've never seen an episode of any Gundam series that showcases how pilots operate a Gundam...
(ID #61570) Posted on 2007/10/31 03:24
Kururu_luva in Richmond, BC Canada (Registered on 2007/01/20 17:53)
 Personally, I think creating a gundam for warfare is still a far off dream. I doubt it's possible to make an effective gundam with our technology right now. It'll just be a giant walking target if it can't be as mobile as gundams from zeta and onwards. Maybe a hundred of years from now might be possible(alas gundam 00).
(ID #61572) Posted on 2007/10/31 03:59
McNally in Oxford, Mississippi, USA (Registered on 2007/08/28 11:26)
College student and soldier
Ken:

Your point about needing trust to operate something that costs millions is true to a point.  I've been in the Army for a year and a half, and yet my job in my unit is to drive an M3A2 Bradley Cavalry Fighting Vehicle.  They cost about 3.2 million dollars each.  And I've only been in the Army for a year and a half - I have friends assigned to Bradleys who have been in less time than I have.

An F-16 costs about $19 million each and the newest pilots have only been in the Air Force for maybe a year, year and a half.

Really, it's less about trust in the person themselves and more a trust in the training they've received.  I'd only driven a Bradley three times in my advanced training before I got to my unit.  An F-16 pilot goes through about a year of training before he or she gets to their unit - but that's because an F-16 is so much more complex than a Bradley.  
(ID #61575) Posted on 2007/10/31 04:31
Membrane in USA if not there LEO. (Registered on 2007/10/30 14:58)
Engineer,hardware hacker
One engineering issue with a real life gundam would be the power source batteries will not make the cut the closest practical power source I can think of would be either a gas turbine or large diesel engine or a non conventional option a mono propellant H2O2 gas generator like in the vanderbilt prosthetic arm.
http://www.vanderbilt.edu/news/releases/2007/8/20/rocket-powered-mechanical-arm-could-revolutionize-prosthetics
Though in theory the leg joints could be made more robust then the links in a track but it also would be more difficult to repair in the field.
(ID #61579) Posted on 2007/10/31 05:22
Henry in /usr/bin/ (Registered on 2006/12/25 20:05)
anime/cosplay events organizer
interesting that the Ministry of Defense is taking serious on bipedal mechs but the astronomical costs on R&D, building and maintenance.

@Membrane

we might not have the sufficient power source to power advance personnel units but there has been some advancement in nuclear fusion research and maybe sometime in the future human could develop mobile fusion reactors that could power these war machines
(ID #61581) Posted on 2007/10/31 06:20
シャキー in カナダ (Registered on 2007/07/14 10:53)
Student~
ikimasen lol
lol.. japan... the place for all fantasies~
(ID #61582) Posted on 2007/10/31 06:22
Syugo in Tokyo/Akihabara (Registered on 2008/03/28 01:42)
super otaku, doujin-ka
YEAH.......
Japan is a mystic fantasy palace
(ID #230440) Posted on 2008/07/05 13:12
Triplekia (Registered on 2007/08/22 14:23)
Student
Membrane in USA if not there LEO. (Registered on 2007/10/30 14:58)
Engineer,hardware hacker
Another solution might be the ultra compact fission reactors being developed by nasa for powering a manned mission to mars.
If you can generate 6 megawatts of power for the vasimr rockets you can travel to mars in less then 45 days.
Some of the concepts such as the Israeli Am242 reactor might be able to power a gundam.
http://www.tfot.info/articles/26/americium-power-source.html
(ID #61584) Posted on 2007/10/31 06:30
jorweeck in Philippines (Registered on 2007/07/18 11:08)
Lackey, Sycophant
Bwahahaha!

I'm sorry. As much as I'm a big fan of Gundams... They ain't gonna happen in real life.

I like the Kotoki Fix pic Danny. Nu Gundam?
(ID #61586) Posted on 2007/10/31 07:00
berNERD in Iloilo, Philippines (Registered on 2007/01/18 09:13)
Aspiring Photographer
if i were a gundam pilot, i'd rename myself to Kale Amsel. IKIMASU! hehehe.
(ID #61590) Posted on 2007/10/31 07:37
Sy in Sheffield,England (Registered on 2008/04/04 04:15)
13 year old gunpla legend... kinda
:D Wow ,If they do start to build gundam imagine how much research would have to be put into it, i mean come on. It's not gonna come that easily. a 20 foot tall robot.
(ID #61592) Posted on 2007/10/31 08:11
Dead Snake in SG (Registered on 2007/05/12 03:59)
Internship student
need info on where can I sign up in the gundam unit
(ID #61593) Posted on 2007/10/31 08:11
achraf1989 in morocco (Registered on 2007/07/07 21:22)
student
i personaly think that it is technicaly possible but we wont be around to see it happen i beleive that it will at least take a couple of centurys 
but i dont really see how a gundam can be usefull in the battlefield  of the future  it will have the same vulnerabilitys and dowsides of todays MBTs espacially with advancements in the manufacturing of portable and highly effective ATGMs anyway i think its cool lol
(ID #61595) Posted on 2007/10/31 08:29
Hwang in England (Registered on 2007/04/05 22:33)
Student of all things
personally i think its a bit of a no go. They may look cool but they would just be impractical in real war. not to mention that each one would cost billions if not trillions of $

That doesnt stop me wanting one though, and if they did ever do it they will have to beat people back at the gates of the recruitment office with sticks.
(ID #61597) Posted on 2007/10/31 08:37
hendrik in jakarta,indonesia (Registered on 2007/06/01 05:27)
student
sniper + gundam armor piercing shell
gundam are totaly pawned
(ID #61598) Posted on 2007/10/31 08:42
achraf1989 in morocco (Registered on 2007/07/07 21:22)
student
i just want to remind that we can not be 100% sure that a gundam can not be of any use in the battlefield because we have seen this in the past with the tank that was thought to be to large and vulnarable yet the tank has proven it self to be a wonderfull instrument of warfare samething for the airplane when in WW1 genarals beleived that besides recon missions the plane can not do much in the battlefild so only time would tell us if it would be a success or a failure
(ID #61599) Posted on 2007/10/31 09:02
orcinus in some snowy peak (Registered on 2007/10/09 00:13)
Fine arts and communications student
"Here Bolobolobolobolo! I have a nice new mech for you to play with!"

It would be better if they MP Knightmare frames, like, an RL version of the Nissan Dualis.
(ID #61600) Posted on 2007/10/31 09:37
Elozt E. Elric in Singapore (Registered on 2007/08/12 20:32)
Pre-Enlisted NS(Army)-men
Well, I'm sure many of us have different views (I told some of my friends about it, and they responded back in either harsh criticism or total ignorance) but imagine how it'll push the boundaries of engineering and information technology! 

Being optimistic, I'd certainly hope it'll proceed on with walker unit developments.
(ID #61601) Posted on 2007/10/31 09:54
Masamune in Singapore (Registered on 2007/10/19 01:28)
GESS, Student
Yea.Some of my friends will scold me gundam nuts...However i still luv em N of course wan to pilot them IF there is a chance.
(ID #61609) Posted on 2007/10/31 10:52
XeroVlade in Philippines (Registered on 2007/10/13 00:44)
Student, Part Time Programmer
Japan is making all my Dreams Come true.. (Yes All of them)
(ID #61619) Posted on 2007/10/31 11:28
duffman in the Urban Jungle that is Manila(PH)~ (Registered on 2007/10/30 21:44)
Daigakusei [Consular and Diplomatic Affairs]
w00t! let's get those gundams flyin' ^^
(ID #61631) Posted on 2007/10/31 12:45
GundamJehutyKai in Foundation II Stellvia (Registered on 2007/09/12 22:21)
Service desk support
Piloting a gundam isn't really high on my "want to do" list, surprisingly, despite me being a big mecha fan. I'd much rather have something along the lines of an Ingram AV-98 Labor!
Better chance of it happening too!

Gundams are just Eyecandy!
(ID #61640) Posted on 2007/10/31 13:28
Syugo in Tokyo/Akihabara (Registered on 2008/03/28 01:42)
super otaku, doujin-ka
A Labor would be another good choice
(ID #230442) Posted on 2008/07/05 13:15
Hatori in Florida,USA (Registered on 2007/08/20 15:42)
Student
You know I always joked about this around friends.
"You know I'm pretty sure they have Gundams/ other robotic monstrosities hidden in the Tokyo Bay or off the coast of Hokkaido in case of emergencies."
(ID #61644) Posted on 2007/10/31 14:32
Kite_DH in Germany (Registered on 2007/04/16 14:35)
hell yeah!!
(ID #61646) Posted on 2007/10/31 14:56
Kite_DH in Germany (Registered on 2007/04/16 14:35)
sorry for double posting,

could you link us to the *.PDF file, danny?
(ID #61648) Posted on 2007/10/31 14:58
Uru in manila (Registered on 2007/10/18 16:05)
Art Student
well, if was given a chance. i would accept it. i mean, it will be a dream come true. riding inside a true robot is one of my fantasy dreams. i like it. hehehe
(ID #61665) Posted on 2007/10/31 16:29
Syugo in Tokyo/Akihabara (Registered on 2008/03/28 01:42)
super otaku, doujin-ka
YEAH!!!!!!!

I want to pilot a mecha too!!!!
(ID #230441) Posted on 2008/07/05 13:14
OtakuFuel in The Local Group (Registered on 2007/10/21 14:09)
Anime Retailer
I think we are more likely to see a Gundam Live Action movie... but the real deal? When did they discover Gundanium alloy? ;)
(ID #61674) Posted on 2007/10/31 18:42
BeLe in Davao, Philippines (Registered on 2007/01/03 17:24)
.NET/Web Developer
Will it fly to space? XD  If so, sign me up. ^^
(ID #61675) Posted on 2007/10/31 18:50
lin-da-kenobi in Long Beach (Registered on 2007/08/16 03:44)
not sure yet...
cool!! XD 
(ID #61684) Posted on 2007/10/31 19:32
rnurmin in Silicon Valley, California (Registered on 2007/09/05 06:11)
Analyst
Hey, isn't that pic the backcover of the early package of Gundam Fixes? =)
(ID #61687) Posted on 2007/10/31 19:52
lowlife187 in Atlanta, Georgia USA (Registered on 2007/09/29 05:18)
Contraband Distrabution Specialist
I would like to sign up to pilot one now, but I'm not a 14 year old socially confused boy so I guess I'm not a candidate. 
(ID #61691) Posted on 2007/10/31 21:28
Sage Shinigami in USA (Registered on 2007/10/19 18:14)
Student
I'd pilot a Gundam but it'd suck 'cause I'd never get to be a "Newtype".  :D
(ID #61692) Posted on 2007/10/31 21:30
Kyu in USA (Registered on 2007/09/18 11:53)
Otaku/Illustrator/Mangaka
That would friggin rock! I would def join the army to pilot a gundam! It would be so AWESOME!
(ID #61693) Posted on 2007/10/31 21:48
Timerswing in Mexico (Registered on 2007/08/25 11:25)
Student
OMFG
(ID #61704) Posted on 2007/10/31 23:00
-XYZPDQ in Pennsylvania, United States (Registered on 2007/01/01 15:00)
Student Engineer
no, I would rather design the next version :) Creator over pilot for me.
(ID #61716) Posted on 2007/10/31 23:53
D_Blade in Montreal (Registered on 2006/12/31 23:36)
Non-profit org. volunteering work addict
I wonder... I guess Anti-Gundam groups in conflicts and wars would aim for the legs (with Stinger missiles and the like)... Got to reinforce those parts if Gundams or other mechas would be created and mass produced.

Welcome to the Future if this is proven  to be true!
(ID #61725) Posted on 2007/11/01 01:00
Boris in USA (Registered on 2006/12/26 01:00)
Interactive Media Design and Graphic Design
OH YEA, GIVE ME ONE OF THEM.
well, i assume they won't everyone pilot them. Kind of Air Force, if you join does not mean you will fly.
(ID #61739) Posted on 2007/11/01 03:32
Mantor in Jakarta (Registered on 2007/11/01 04:19)
NEET
WOW. i cant wait for a satelite cannon to blast everithing!

How about using evangelion like cable as its source of energy?

but thet would limit it's  mobility...
(ID #61806) Posted on 2007/11/01 18:43
Shasui in Norwich UK
hmmm now if only I could convince the top brass at MI18 that a gundam would be way better then a Mini(http://www.mini.co.uk/) to haul guns and other stuff for M.A.D

then I too could be trampling stuff......


(ID #61807) Posted on 2007/11/01 18:59
Danny Choo in Tokyo (Registered on 2006/12/11 11:54)
Director/代表取締役
rnurmin,
It is but goes well with the article.

Kite_DH,
Here goes
http://www.mod.go.jp/trdi/infomation/happyou/Program.pdf

Jorweek,
Sure is.
(ID #61815) Posted on 2007/11/01 23:41
Hippo in Jakarta
Piloting a gundam was and still is one of my dream. 
Yet, lets just face it. Piloting a 20 meter tall war machine without any lightning reflexes and a bit of spatial awarness will put me and my gundam in the same level as those cannon fodder GMs. 
Besides, i have a bad stomach. I can't stand riding roller coaster, let alone a mobile suit :D
(ID #61868) Posted on 2007/11/02 09:57
kenny in australia sydney
what! is this 4 real . piloting a gundam will be great!!!!!!!!!!!!helping the army.
diocqopeter in Singapore
gordon in 新加坡 Singapore (Registered on 2007/06/11 15:45)
TK-8316 / 宅男 Otaku / 工程师 Engineer
technically speaking it's impossible. how are we gonna make a thing that big fly and stays in mid air? not forgetting preforming acrobatic movements as well.
(ID #61891) Posted on 2007/11/02 15:29
No Name in No Location (Registered on 2007/01/11 11:11)
No Occupation
nothing is impossible as long as u have the will

xDD
(ID #61931) Posted on 2007/11/03 01:12
moncikoma in jakarta, Indonesia (Registered on 2007/08/03 05:57)
Designer graphic
just like man go to the moon....gundam is possible though...50 years from now maybe... and maybe it will be used not for war..but 4 evacuation and stuff...


(ID #61962) Posted on 2007/11/03 06:03
moncikoma in jakarta, Indonesia (Registered on 2007/08/03 05:57)
Designer graphic
btw where did u get that pic's....awesome photoshop i say...
(ID #61963) Posted on 2007/11/03 06:06
Mike in Manila (Registered on 2007/02/20 22:16)
VP
No thanks. I'll ride the badass Tallgeese/Custom Flag-type suits built to counter the Gundams. :)
(ID #62070) Posted on 2007/11/04 11:32
GunDude in Mars (Registered on 2007/09/05 08:55)
Bounty Hunter
As long as they don't make it 8 stories tall.  If they are going to do that they may as well paint a bull's eye on it.  Realistically the robot would be something like a "power armour" of 2~2.5 meters tall, used for construction, logistics, emergency (hazardous environment operation, like fire rescue).  I don't see it being used as a weapon.  I mean, a guy wearing a t-shirt and sandals and equipped with a shoulder mounted armour piercing rocket launcher can easily take out a small (or big) multi-million dollar mobile suit.
(ID #62264) Posted on 2007/11/05 22:21