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日本語/Japanese  Sat 09/22 20:42 JST
Now we take a look at the Sony and Microsoft stuff.
Just like last year, MS didn't want folks taking photos of the screens or the booth ladies - I really don't know why they bothered showing up on press day.
TGS Microsoft (click to enlarge)
But I was there to bring you coverage so ignore the rules I do. Ace Combat looked rather good.
Ace Combat (click to enlarge)
DMC4 looked just as good on the 360 as it does on the PS3 - cant really tell the difference.
DMC4 (click to enlarge)
This was laughable - they tried to impress the press by making us take off our shoes to sit in this "Japanese" style room. Made us wait for 5 mins before telling us "no photos or video" before showing some footage of Ninja Gaiden 2 for the 360. I couldn't be bothered with them and walked out.
Ninja Gaiden (click to enlarge)
I should have taken a snap of all the "photography forbidden" signs to create a gallery full of them.
Photography Forbidden (click to enlarge)
Halo seemed to be popular - but only among the 7 people playing the demo.
Halo3 (click to enlarge)
Notice the "guards" on either side of this booth just waiting to say "no photos." Its the first thing they are prepared to utter so even if you ask where the toilet is they will first say "no photos."
TGS Microsoft (click to enlarge)
More Ace Combat.
No matter how hard MS tries, the 360 is still a machine that nobody in Japan seems to want. Sales of the 360 over here are appalling. Blue Dragon was supposed to be the title that boosted sales into the heavens...
Ace Combat (click to enlarge)
The Sony booth had quite a few games to play with. Dont get too deep into the game because the booth lady will chuck you off after 10 mins.
TGS Sony (click to enlarge)
Devil May Cry 4 which was on show last year too. Capcom jumped ship and DMC4 will be released on the 360 too. I guess this cant be helped as Sony done a bad job by setting the PS3 at an extortionate price - meaning that not a lot of people have one which also means that DMC4 on the PS3 alone wont pay for Capcom's rent.
TGS DMC4 (click to enlarge)
Time crisis looked good although the characters seemed stiff - the bad guys. The "bad-guys-are-going-to-get killed-anyway-so-dont-spend-time-rendering-them-properly" syndrome - there must be a special term for this. Maybe we can think of one ^^;
Time Crisis (click to enlarge)
The MGS4 booklet was being handed out at this spot.
MGS4 (click to enlarge)
Gran Turismo. I personally prefer the backdrops in Ridge Racer. Gran Turismo backgrounds seems boring in comparison.
Gran Turismo (click to enlarge)
The Eye of Judgment was an interesting concept - a camera captures cards on a board and is shown on the screen. Never got onto card games. Ero card games may be more interesting - don't think they exist though (or do they?)
Eye of Judgement (click to enlarge)
I think they only had photos of Heavenly Sword game at the last TGS. The camera action and FPS look quite rough.
Heavenly Sword (click to enlarge)
The new PSP. Would have got one straight away if it was touch screen.
PSP 2000 (click to enlarge)
A new attachment enables us to watch TV on the PSP.
PSP 2000 (click to enlarge)
Press go wild when girls hold a PSP.
PSP 2000 (click to enlarge)
Rise of Lair looked good - flying dragon type action.
Rise of Lair (click to enlarge)
Uncharted - looks like a man-marooned-on-island type game.
Q: Whats the difference between Firefox and the PS3?
A: Nothing - they both keep asking you to update the current version.
Sony are *always* patching the current OS version. I never bother to use the online functions of the PS3 because they make you upgrade the OS before you can do anything online.
Uncharted PS3 (click to enlarge)
Little Big Planet looks like a lemmings type game where users have to work in teams to complete tasks.
Little Big Planet (click to enlarge)
Play Gran Turismo standing up with a booth girl watching you.
Gran Turismo (click to enlarge)
Warhawk - "get-in-a-tank-plane-or-other-vehicle-and-shoot" type of game.
Warhawk PS3 (click to enlarge)
Some booths displayed age restrictions for the demos. You need to be over 15 to play Warhark.

A girl at the Microsoft booth asked me for photo ID to prove that I was over 18!
Danny: Do I look under 18 to you? [18才以下に見えるの?]
Girl at Microsoft: Yes [はい]
Danny: ....Why thank you [。。。うれしいね。ありがとう。]

More TGS coverage up later. I didn't take any video footage because I was with Akihabara News and they have one of those bazooka video cameras - check out their most coolsome video footage of the show.
Warhark PS3 (click to enlarge)
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Kite_DH in Germany
Registered on 2007/04/16 13:47
I like some games on both platforms...
but PS3 is just better!
(ID #57460) Posted on 2007/09/22 20:49
GundamJehutyKai in Foundation II Stellvia
IT Client Support
Registered on 2007/09/12 21:33
The MS heads always say they are dedicated to the Japanese markets, then they do stuff like this. I have also heard that their TGS showing was laughable but in all fairness, Sonys was not the runaway success they need. Nintendo have their own event so it';s very hard to judge who had the best event...

And yes, the PS3 does get an insane number of firmware updates but they all do something. most improve the home entertainment part, but they also use it to improve the backward compatibility for us poor sods which have to make do with software emulation. I have no idea what the 360 Updates do 99% of the time
(ID #57461) Posted on 2007/09/22 20:53
XSportSeeker in Brazil
Hikikomori
Registered on 2007/08/22 05:30
ROFL
Danny, when you say "STEAMING pile", the answer can only be one. XD

But seriously, I don't think XBox is THAT bad.
The people behind it are pretty dumb though.
Not satisfied from making the huge mistake of releasing a console system that has the same exact problems computers have... which by the way, is one of the reasons people buy consoles for gaming (to avoid such problems)... they released the 360 AGAIN with overheating problems, and took long enough to start doing something about it.

XBox 360 would be a nice console, if they released it without those problems (specially RROD), even if it took them 2 more years to release.

The console has nice games. Too bad I'm never getting one because it's too much money to spend on something that has 33% chance of turning into a hot hot brick.

PS3 is too expensive. But games such as Little Big Planet and Ratchet & Clank Future are convincing me it may be worth the money.

And then there's Wii, which I'm probably buying, but I'm waiting to see if they release more games that lasts, and are not just a collection of minigames and gimmicks. I know those types of games are fun, but doesn't last long...
(ID #57462) Posted on 2007/09/22 20:58
Ben-ji in Wales, U.K.
Student
Registered on 2007/08/24 22:21
Both consoles have their own great games

But I just prefer the PS3 ^^
(ID #57463) Posted on 2007/09/22 21:01
AndyH in Birmingham, UK
3D artist
Registered on 2006/12/25 10:08
Wether the 360 is doing crap in japan or not, im still chuffed to bits with mine. Numerous great games is all i need.
Despite the japanese not liking it, there are still plenty of great japanese games coming out soon - Katamari, Ace combat, Resident evil 5, DMC4, soul calibur 4 and lost odyssey as well as REZ, every extend, ikaruga and the tasty looking shooter omega 5 coming to xbox marketplace.

Ive been a big fan of the ps2, but i really do think sony have screwed up this time. Its gonna take a lot of kick ass games to convince me to buy one. I might wait a year or 2.

Gah - listen to me! I sound like im participating in a fanboy war on Kotaku!

Good coverage Danny - you must be knackered doing all this so soon after coming back from the states!
(ID #57464) Posted on 2007/09/22 21:09
animes in cephiro
mahou kishi
Registered on 2007/01/23 14:30
the contest is easy, Ps3 will win always at least for Otakus, because most 360 games are made in america, and we otakus want games made in Japan, and Ps3 always haves more titles from Japanese companies, and ero games and rpg games, 360 is always the same "kill kill kill" or extre sports, even if ps3 is more expensive, if there is an ero-game or a rpg game that 360 dont have we will buy the ps3
(ID #57465) Posted on 2007/09/22 21:14
OMNI Strike in Glasgow, UK
In my last year of High School
Registered on 2006/12/25 02:24
i dont prefer any consoles really. if its got good games who cares what company its from. 

The thing about asking a toilet to the toilet got me laughing.
"where is the toilet?"
"don't take pictures and the toilets that way."
(ID #57466) Posted on 2007/09/22 21:23
OMNI Strike in Glasgow, UK
In my last year of High School
Registered on 2006/12/25 02:24
however the 360 does make funny noises which puts me off it sometimes.
(ID #57467) Posted on 2007/09/22 21:25
McKlain in Spain
Web Designer
Registered on 2007/05/11 17:10
Well, Japan can keep ignoring the 360. Europe is the new priority for MS.

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601101&sid=a0FYuTjLAMec
(ID #57468) Posted on 2007/09/22 21:29
OMNI Strike in Glasgow, UK
In my last year of High School
Registered on 2006/12/25 02:24
3rd post!!!! Danny you need to get an edit post thingy here man. i always make mistakes. :S.

i meant to say in my first post the thing about asking the guy to the toilet. not asking the toilet to the toilet. LOL
(ID #57469) Posted on 2007/09/22 21:30
Chaoz in Cebu, Philippines
Software Engineer
Registered on 2007/08/22 22:30
dammit, I accidentally pressed the vote _AGAINST_ the PS3 eventhough I hate 360... X_x
(ID #57470) Posted on 2007/09/22 22:21
w1ld0n3 in Texas
programmer
Registered on 2007/06/19 03:57
why cant you like both? or all three really?
(ID #57471) Posted on 2007/09/22 22:27
DRAGUN in Arizona, USA
Design Consultant
Registered on 2007/08/23 04:44
You know, considering that the Japanese have a word for everything, even "standing-up-whilst-reading-magazine-in-front-of-the-magazine-rack-in-a-stormtrooper-outfit" , then they should have a word for The "bad-guys-are-going-to-get killed-anyway-so-dont-spend-time-rendering-them-properly" syndrome.
(ID #57472) Posted on 2007/09/22 22:28
Student
Registered on 2007/08/22 13:35
underage + booth chick = profit, as proven below

http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/6933/y4dgheoodd4vynj0tmxogm4.jpg
(ID #57473) Posted on 2007/09/22 22:33
JChow in Canada
Registered on 2007/09/14 14:06
what game did you look at that was 18+ o.o?

lol, no one likes Halo3 at Japan even I dont like it while everyone else here loves it..I dont get whats so fun about it =
  
(ID #57474) Posted on 2007/09/22 22:57
シャキー in カナダ
Student~
Registered on 2007/07/14 10:05
The "bad-guys-are-going-to-get killed-anyway-so-dont-spend-time-rendering-them-properly" syndrome.
happening to a lot of sony games atm lol
the one i jsut palyed that had such stuff is Crisis Core FF7 for the PSP
the mob just stands lol... diffuculty... not ahrd at all except the last mission i guess

and i personally like PS3> 360 ^^ maybe because i am a sony fan for game systems (only)
(ID #57475) Posted on 2007/09/22 23:08
Aaronime in Mars, Canada
Human
Registered on 2007/07/27 10:28
Yes Danny, you look very very young.
"How old was the booth lady?" should be your reply ^.^
(ID #57476) Posted on 2007/09/22 23:51
BeLe in Davao, Philippines
.NET/Web Developer
Registered on 2007/01/03 16:36
I personally don't dislike xb360 but it's games library isn't very appealing for my taste.  Most games I see on the 360 are FPS games and frankly I'm not such a huge fan of those.  I think Ninja Gaiden and DoA are the only ones I liked.  Which btw I'm hoping Team Ninja does a port of DOA on the ps3 :D  Games on the ps3 on the otherhand are my type of games...rpgs and action adventure!!
(ID #57478) Posted on 2007/09/23 00:00
D_Blade in Montreal
Non-profit org. volunteering work addict
Registered on 2006/12/31 22:48
TGS was in fact interesting with that post. I was "What happened to the videogames industry?" when I saw what was in the first post. 

Anyway, my comments:

Time Crisis series still alive? I did not know that...
My favorite racing game series remains Burnout. Then for something more classical, I would choose Ridge Racer too.

Ero card games... I'm sure they exist, or they have to be created. Would you start a business based on them? ^-^;

lol at the Firefox/PS3 similarities (same goes for the PSP).

Typo correction: It's Warhawk, not Warhark... even if the latter would sound nice too.

And finally, the joke of the day:
They say you're not allowed to take photos and they show you where the toilets are located... But have you ever thought they said "Do not take pictures of the toilets" specifically? XD
Sorry, it was lame. Hahahaha. ^-^;
(ID #57479) Posted on 2007/09/23 00:17
Rufus Shinra in 神羅HQ 60th floor, Midgar
Registered on 2007/01/20 01:05
There are actually many games for the 360 targeted at otakus including idolm@ster and trusty bell (eternal sonata)... etc. 

I hope 360 beats ps3 in japan, since I don't like sony in general. 

 
(ID #57480) Posted on 2007/09/23 00:22
syrix in U.S.
student
Registered on 2007/03/21 09:30
Lol, a booth girl actually asked you for your ID, hope she was cute ;p...booth girls usually are.  Too bad Halo isn't that popular in Japan, I thought
(ID #57481) Posted on 2007/09/23 00:27
jorweeck in Philippines
Lackey, Sycophant
Registered on 2007/07/18 10:20
It's going to be the 360 for me. It has enough otaku games and a large library of it compared with Sony's expensive machine. 

Not to mention there's hardly any games playable on the PS3.
(ID #57483) Posted on 2007/09/23 00:29
Alafista OTAKU in Singapore
Singapore Customs
Registered on 2006/12/25 11:34
I'd buy a PS3 when MGS4 hits the streets. As for XBOX 360 I will never get one.

LOL even though you might look young I never thought you had the 18 year old aura with ya. 
(ID #57485) Posted on 2007/09/23 00:46
Henry in Makati, Philippines
anime/cosplay events organizer
Registered on 2006/12/25 19:17
LOL @TGS Press day

WTF!?! TGS
what's the use of Press Day when you forbid the press to take pictures...i don't know if i lol'd on that one

lol @PSP comment
i'll get one if it has the word "nintendo" on it XDDD
(ID #57486) Posted on 2007/09/23 00:47
Transfan52
WOW the PS3 fan boyism is immense here with all the loser otakus that have no life. You all say that the 360 had a laughable display of games but I havent seen any PS3 showcased games besides MGS4. ill do admit though that m$ has some major quality control issues with its console... heck I had to get mine repaired 3 times already over the course of 4 years. Thats like getting it repaired once every year for me... pretty lame microsoft at least the PS3 isnt made in mexico and wont die out on me every year heh.
(ID #57488) Posted on 2007/09/23 01:03
xenohawk in Tokyo, Japan
Programmer, Web Developer / Web Designer
Registered on 2007/07/16 13:59
Great coverage Danny, I was pretty disappointed with the press day also with all the hu ha on no photo thing. They are eying those people with camera like there are going to snipe you the moment you lift your camera.

(ID #57489) Posted on 2007/09/23 01:15
terry in Singapore
=.=!
Registered on 2007/08/02 23:32
Transfan52 seems agitated lol.. 
anyway, xbox360 is a failure in japan, and of course, exclusively to japan.. it's just a land for japanese products wish satisfy the japanese users with japanese flavour.. mind you, i'm just stating fact statistically.. 
how both really fare, personal opinion shouldn't be taken into consideration..
(ID #57490) Posted on 2007/09/23 01:19
Gibson in California
Student artist
Registered on 2007/05/28 03:30
Both xbox360 and ps3 is good but i have to go with the 360 because all of the games. I still going to get a ps3 any way.

Mircosoft legend is about to finish. Halo 3 change the gaming community. I great epic triligy that comming to an end. I hope they show mastercheif face. --Believe--
(ID #57493) Posted on 2007/09/23 01:26
gordon in 新加坡 Singapore
宅男 Otaku/ 工程师 Engineer
Registered on 2007/06/11 14:57
danny looks under 18? :p
(ID #57497) Posted on 2007/09/23 01:56
WoLF-[x] in Malaysia
IT Consultant
Registered on 2007/01/15 19:58
Danny: LOL....nice to know you don't look like an "oyaji" yet eh? A pity for the XBOX360 in Japan, but seriously MS should fix that console. The 3ROD breakdown issues with it is too frequent and the Japanese just aren't gonna buy that crap with that quality.
(ID #57499) Posted on 2007/09/23 02:08
notfair in Malaysia
Student, ACG Fans
Registered on 2007/08/14 16:34
nice coverage danny !!looking forward to DMC4...
(ID #57502) Posted on 2007/09/23 02:17
soonkiong in Kuching, Malaysia
Student
Registered on 2007/08/22 12:50
well, at least you still looks young! that's good isn't it? still no coverage on FF13? >.
(ID #57504) Posted on 2007/09/23 02:37
-XYZPDQ in Pennsylvania, United States
Student Engineer
Registered on 2007/01/01 14:12
In my opinion, both are steaming piles. The 360 is doing "well" in the US but I've heard terrible in Japan. I'm not sure how the Playstation 3 is doing in Japan but it is not doing very well in the US of A. If I had to pick one, the 360 looks appealing but ultimatly I would go for the PS3 (sorry, Metal Gear Solid 4 is on it ^^).

I will stick with my Wii ^^ Remember: Phantom Hourglass USA release is October 19th folks!
(ID #57506) Posted on 2007/09/23 02:46
bolt in Tampa Fl.
security/student
Registered on 2007/04/17 14:53
steaming pile of poo is right for the 360... all the problems they are having iwth the darn thing.. os crashes (on a windows box.. who'd think...) and even reports of the dvd drives mortally scratching the games .. and theres the red ring of death...:D

haven't heard of any problems with ps3.. hardware wise... and  the multitude of os updates haven't been to big a problem.... now to install linux on my ps3 :D

only complaint is that they stoped selling the cheap 60gb unit here for the $600 buck 80 gb unit.. with ridge racer... makes up a bit... if you want the game..
(ID #57511) Posted on 2007/09/23 04:07
bolt in Tampa Fl.
security/student
Registered on 2007/04/17 14:53
oh btw.. if you buy the HD_DVD drive... the 360 costs MORE than the ps3 with the INCLUDED blue-ray.. and in a year or 2 when the games use more that 9gb.. they'll turn to the blue ray becaseu of the ps3.. inst not what it does right now.. it's what is capable of in a year or 2.. while the 360 festers.. :D
(ID #57512) Posted on 2007/09/23 04:15
hendrik in jakarta,indonesia
student
Registered on 2007/06/01 04:39
look like 360 will be killed in 2009 or 201x eh?. maybe will buy PS3 around that year....
(ID #57515) Posted on 2007/09/23 04:33
chojin in USA
LAN Guy
Registered on 2007/03/25 14:49
meh, if they keep releasing games for the 360 we will all eventually buy one.  Happened when we all switched from Nintendo to Sony.  Then again, we might all be staying with the Wii and PS2 since both of them are domainating.
(ID #57517) Posted on 2007/09/23 05:16
shippoyasha in NYC
NEET
Registered on 2007/06/10 15:34
What's the problem with you guys? lol. Even the poll is a bit strange. "which if a bigger turd"? Huh? How is that for a loaded question?

Personally, all the consoles look pretty good especially the 360 and the Wii. PS3 is simply lagging behind right now but maybe in a few years they'll have a robust library then.

Also, if some people are saying the 360 will 'die in 2009/10', I think that's a good long run. Nothing bad for it.
(ID #57520) Posted on 2007/09/23 05:27
MrColobus in UK
Analyst
Registered on 2007/01/15 02:27
Buy all three consoles and live a happy life! - having said this I went to buy a 360 Elite and PS3 together the other day and ended up with just the Elite because all the PS3 games are stoaters at the moment.  FFXIII, Little Big Planet and wipEout HD will ensure the PS3's fat arse gets a place on my console shelf.
(ID #57521) Posted on 2007/09/23 05:33
CyruzDraxs in Kelowna, BC, Canada
Web Design & Development
Registered on 2007/09/11 09:43
Game selection aside, both systems are rather broken in their own way, though I rather disliked the RROD my 360 had once. There is a good article going into great detail about tech details if you want to have a look.

http://www.omgili.com/preview/aHR0cDovL3d3dy54Ym9hcmQudXMvYmJiL3Nob3d0aHJlYWQucGhwP3Q9MTA4Njg=

For actual game selection I prefer the Xbox 360 presently, but the PS3 may catch up eventually. PS3 doesn't have much appeal to an RPG fan like me, while the 360 has Eternal Sonata, which owns so very hard I might add. I'll be writing about it on my blog tomorrow. Look forward to it. ;)
(ID #57522) Posted on 2007/09/23 05:41
Kururu_luva in Richmond, BC Canada
Registered on 2007/01/20 17:05
OMG new shade of pink and purple psp? PIMP!!!!! 
(ID #57526) Posted on 2007/09/23 05:57
D_Blade in Montreal
Non-profit org. volunteering work addict
Registered on 2006/12/31 22:48
@shippoyasha: Gotta love (and get used to) Danny's sense of humor, right?

Danny, I guess looking younger has its positive and negative points.  Being seen as young, to the point of being considered as underage is quite funny (not for me, alas) and I guess it's a compliment to your genes for letting you appear this way rather than a person in his fourties/fifties. XD
(ID #57530) Posted on 2007/09/23 08:26
Akiraman in RIDGE RACER City
Designer & Animator
Registered on 2007/01/11 23:52
I actaully like my PS2. Lots of RPGs and Ero-game ported over. I most prob will get a PS3, kind of like 

Little Big planet 
Senjou no Valkyrie 
Ryu-Ga-Gotoku
MGS4 (MGS Fan here)
and I guess the SQ-Enix FF games.

As for Xbox maybe or I will just wait until MS announces the next console then I can get my x360 cheaper. Only game I wanna play are iDOLMASTER, DOA, DOAX2 and Ninja Gaiden.

I might consider a Wii but I rather get a DS instead to complement my PSP. I actually like portable consoles
(ID #57533) Posted on 2007/09/23 09:39
Cribba in Swe
Registered on 2007/01/27 19:01
360 is definatly a steaming pile of crap: I mean a 33% failure rate?.  It also scratched my Gears disc, ARGH!. it has better games than the PS3 atm though :)
(ID #57537) Posted on 2007/09/23 11:02
thefrikking in Spain
Imperial Guard
Registered on 2007/08/18 06:30
For me, the only thing that makes me buy a console are the games. Blue-Ray, hard disc, no meaning for me. For the moment, XBOX 360 have more fun games, but the next year PS3 will recibe some wonders, so I will buy one, when the price descend a little...

I have a XBOX 360, and is true that have some problems. Anyway, I think is early to respond the question, PS3 or XBOX 360?
(ID #57543) Posted on 2007/09/23 12:11
farrroarz in Brunei Darussalam
Student
Registered on 2007/08/05 22:52
Haha LOL at the dialogue.

XBOX 360 is crap. I prefer PS3 and Wii due to lack of rpg games on the Xbox though I've itching to play that Trusty Bell game. Guess who's the seiyuu for Polka in the game? ^^
(ID #57544) Posted on 2007/09/23 12:23
ron~ in Melbourne, Australia
IT Developer
Registered on 2007/05/12 10:37
I wish I can come to TGS.. did you see Agarest Senki demo/gameplay? ecchi SRPG game for PS3.. 

(ID #57545) Posted on 2007/09/23 13:03
kintaro in Pineville North Carolina
Student