女性への暴力は犯罪です
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Thu 2008/08/21 17:02
A friend and I once saw a man punch his girlfriend (or what appeared to be) right in the face. When we went to intervene she started yelling at us about it not being any of our business. It was an odd experience. This was in Montreal, QC, Canada.
(ID #272820) Posted on 2008/08/21 17:12
marvin (登録日: 2006/12/25 00:54)
happened to me once as well, with a Korean couple at a beach resort. so just walked away and called hotel security. in the end they seem more receptive to the guys in uniform. ^^
(ID #272901) Posted on 2008/08/21 17:59
Sounds sad tho... sometimes love is blind... they cant see themselves in it.
(ID #275282) Posted on 2008/08/23 13:43
zdvil (登録日: 2008/07/04 03:25)
I believe reporting to the police when its a case of physical or excessive verbal abuse is the safest and best way to intervene. It most likely would have a better chance of helping the victim out, especially in the future.
(ID #272838) Posted on 2008/08/21 17:20
aspiring to become a doujin and graphics artist cum lawyer
that's actually a problem here. even police don't take matters into their hands until bleeding occurs :/
(ID #273221) Posted on 2008/08/22 00:52
duncanmc (登録日: 2008/06/13 06:19)
Police does have the right or power to intervene in some countries
(ID #343823) Posted on 2008/10/23 21:45
Procrastinator Extraordinaire
only if her life is in danger would I intervene, otherwise its up to the cops to handle domestic abuse. Moral courage is just hard to find nowadays
(ID #272850) Posted on 2008/08/21 17:24
In the States, violence can go both ways. You have many more cases of men abusing women, however, than the opposite. Best bet is to call the cops, and intervene only if necessary. Considering how easily it is to get shot around here, intervention isn't always a smart idea. ^_^;
(ID #272863) Posted on 2008/08/21 17:29
Close-protection officer/Martial artist
You said it Chewie... Girls here will even pepper spray you for asking a question. O.o I just wanted to know what time it was!!! ToT But yeah, acting like Kenshiro doesn't always work out too well...
(ID #272870) Posted on 2008/08/21 17:34
Student & Authorized Chicken Slapper
I would definitely Intervene, and if Push comes to shove well time to fight. And if I get my ass kicked, well I have more stuff to report to the police lol. But I fight dirty so I might win lol. As for the awareness issue, a few years back in New york, I saw a lot of campaigns and commercials dealing with this issue but it has died down considerably over the years. You can still see ads on the subway and what not but no where near as prominent as it was years ago. I am assuming and hope that is because the situation is less excessive.
(ID #272864) Posted on 2008/08/21 17:29
Realistically, I'd leave it for the police to handle. If there are other people that noticed the act of violence, bystander effect takes place. If it were an anime, I'd intervene and somehow rescue the damsel in distress, which will lead to romantic interest and possibly a start of some harem. But we all know that in reality, anyone who intervenes would probably make the situation worse for themselves and the woman. Leave this kind of situation to the authorities.
(ID #272868) Posted on 2008/08/21 17:33
as tenrou said, it's likely intervening would get you shot here. best to call the cops.
(ID #272869) Posted on 2008/08/21 17:33
Heard on the news, you guys at State side are even Arming Teachers now... This is really sick, imagine one fine day the students just piss off the teacher and the teacher just went postal and start shooting all those students...
(ID #272887) Posted on 2008/08/21 17:44
Student & Authorized Chicken Slapper
WTF? I never heard of this, I doubt this to be true, No sane individual would pass such a law allowing this to happen. Despite what you may hear of how dangerous and what not insane the US is, it really isn't as bad as some medias portray. Again I highly doubt they would arm a teacher, unless he/she was teaching a bunch of psychopathic killers.
(ID #272903) Posted on 2008/08/21 18:01
This statement is about half true. Although no government agency is doing this, some teachers are getting "carry permits" for their protection both to and from school here in Philadelphia. This is only in some of the inner city neighborhoods and not on school grounds. Security services on campus are also arming their guards in many places. This is response to the recent rash of school violence. Darth Guy's example is actually reversed in reality.
(ID #273562) Posted on 2008/08/22 06:03
Going off of Zou's comment, it's still illegal to carry firearms in any public school (with the exception of police). What an individual private school does is another matter, but even then, I would doubt they would arm teachers. As a parent, if I knew the teachers were packing (Freedom of Information; they have to disclose that), then I wouldn't send my kids to that school.
(ID #272942) Posted on 2008/08/21 18:27
Here's a couple of links to back up Darth. I hear the maths classes are now about figuring out how many bullets are left, so you know how lucky you feel, punk! ;) http://www.theage.com.au/world/g-is-for-gun-texas-in-a-class-of-its-own-20080818-3xo0.html and http://news.theage.com.au/world/texas-district-lets-teachers-carry-guns-20080816-3wix.html
(ID #273159) Posted on 2008/08/21 23:18
The Sword of Magus
Woa~ the world is really changing nowadays.
(ID #273320) Posted on 2008/08/22 01:44
It's just a tiny school district, not a whole state or nation.
(ID #273450) Posted on 2008/08/22 03:09
Yeah, it is a precident though. And you really do need to ask questions about how it gets to the stage where a teacher may need to kill just to keep his students safe in what should be a peaceful society.
(ID #275818) Posted on 2008/08/24 01:21
I encounter such an inccident before at a popular club here(Power station), Hate that place for many other reason, but that night when i was there, this young punk was rough handling his girlfriend and immediately upon seeing that i just grab that punk's arm and told him not to do so. I guess he was drunk at the time too. In a flash, he let go of his girl and turned to face me with a confrontational look but dare not do anything else. While he was too scared to do anyting, his friends(2 other girls?!?) were apologising to me profusely and i picturing in my head the many ways i would "dismntle" this punk. But he was lucky enough his friends pulled him away.
(ID #272873) Posted on 2008/08/21 17:36
Pokemon master
The results for the "do nothing" poll are depressing. (Gotta remind myself it's only 5.5% of the group. >.<) How many people took the survey? Maybe it was only one crazy person who selected #4. Around here we sometimes have commercials and campaigns against violence within couples and households. I have a small pin on my pencil case that was given for donating to a anti-domestic violence drive. ^^ If I saw something break out in the street when the police won't be able to get there in time, I'd try to do at least something. Depends on the surroundings and situation though. Unfortunately, I'm kinda small so it might backfire. D:
(ID #272882) Posted on 2008/08/21 17:42
I would probably only report it if it involves excessive violence, and definitely NOT intervene in that case. I think that if you're willing to go to that degree of violence in public, you must be on crack or something. So I wouldn't want to deal with someone of that nature, because who knows what they would do. That and I'm a small dood as well. D: and the comment below me by Willdavis in spain is a perfect example of those crazy crack heads.
(ID #272936) Posted on 2008/08/21 18:21
Well, personally I thnk it's a very difficult issue. Some weeks ago, a 40-year-old teacher was beaten up and is now in coma here in Spain. Why? Because he saw a man slapping and dragging his girlfriend by the hair, so he went there, told the man not to lay his hands on the woman. As he saw that he wouldn't stop, he went inside a hotel to phone the police. And while he was at it, the other guy came from the back and hit him several times in the head. When asked if his boyfriend was a violent person, the woman who had been slapped and dragged told the police: "he wasn't hitting me, we were just talking. My boyfriend is innocent". Meanwhile, his boyfriend was in court high in coccaine and his victim was in hospital in critical condition, and still is. So, do you really think that it's worth risking you life for a person who after denies what had happened?
(ID #272885) Posted on 2008/08/21 17:44
There are a lot of cases similar to the one you described. I saw on the news of one where ...There was a man that asked, "hey is there a problem? do you need any help miss?" because she was in an heated argument (and apparently some physical abuse) with another man. The man she was arguing with decided to go in his car to get a golf club and beat him to death with it. His wife had to watch her husband beaten to a bloody pulp, its mind boggling. I mean nothing would invoke that kind of action unless the person was on drugs or that they have a serious mental disorder. This kind of shit just makes you sick to the stomach.
(ID #272950) Posted on 2008/08/21 18:34
part time illustrationist, doll clothing seamstress
hmmm I think in asian society when I was still a wee kid, most women are expected to just take it silently :/ I won't go into detail what happened but I was definitely too young to intervene, I'm lucky I didn't get hit for staring :/
(ID #272888) Posted on 2008/08/21 17:46
part time illustrationist, doll clothing seamstress
I want to applaud those who intervened. Violence against the weak be it men/women is bad :/
(ID #272904) Posted on 2008/08/21 18:02
Student & Authorized Chicken Slapper
well luckily even the asian society is evolving. This is no longer acceptable even in asian households, except maybe super super super traditional ones...but again I doubt those still exist.
(ID #272906) Posted on 2008/08/21 18:02
marvin (登録日: 2006/12/25 00:54)
wouldn't want to name places that still does this, since it might sound racist or stereotyping but believe me, there are some places that still regard women in this manner.
(ID #272917) Posted on 2008/08/21 18:11
aspiring to become a doujin and graphics artist cum lawyer
seconded :/
(ID #273228) Posted on 2008/08/22 00:57
Dude women get hit all the time in Asian societies.. they just don't call it abuse. I still witness some Asians in America getting hit and abused by the elderly, but it's just a way of their culture.
(ID #273456) Posted on 2008/08/22 03:12
Mechanical Engineering student
That's called Parental Discipline and it's a normal thing in Asian societies. It really straightens up the kid if he/she keeps doing naughty things and talking doesn't work. Of course there has to be some "force limit" to it and only a few parents are capable of holding in their anger disciplining their child correctly.
(ID #273853) Posted on 2008/08/22 11:37
marvin (登録日: 2006/12/25 00:54)
that's true, esp for the older generation.
(ID #272909) Posted on 2008/08/21 18:06
Photographer/Night Auditor
I've had to call the police a couple times when couples got out of control at work. I even had a guy threaten me once because I stepped in and called the police while he was yelling at his girl friend.
(ID #272890) Posted on 2008/08/21 17:48
University Student
Call the cops, or any authority! Report the incident only if its excessive violence though..
(ID #272898) Posted on 2008/08/21 17:54
jkun (登録日: 2008/08/22 10:18)
no violence toword a woman is exeptible regardless of where you are its just wrong
(ID #273778) Posted on 2008/08/22 10:27
Calling the cops would be the best option, IMO since the guy might get violent towards the one intervening, but it was the cops, they'd wouldn't want to mess with someone with a badge...and a gun...
(ID #272907) Posted on 2008/08/21 18:02
agree with you.
(ID #272954) Posted on 2008/08/21 18:40
Mechanical Engineering student
Or a guy with no badge but WITH a gun. Now that would make him think twice!
(ID #273856) Posted on 2008/08/22 11:39
Web monkey, coffee addicted cerberus, Chef Vader
If the woman was already being caused significant physical injury then yes I'd intervene but if it's more of like that was described in the article, I'd simply bring it to the attention of authorities e.g. police, security personnel or otherwise.
(ID #272955) Posted on 2008/08/21 18:44
Computer Science Student
It's a common sight in Madagascar (maybe once a week). Even if u want to intervene, YOU JUST CAN'T! The police is useless and don't really care. If u try to get in the way, u'll be the one beaten up! xD
(ID #272961) Posted on 2008/08/21 18:51
duncanmc (登録日: 2008/06/13 06:19)
very dangerous.
(ID #343818) Posted on 2008/10/23 21:41
Web Developer (i.e. Otaku)
Grrr, in my prefecture women seem to find nasty violent blokes irresistable.
(ID #272969) Posted on 2008/08/21 19:03
Graphic Design student | Receptionist | Otaku
Call the cops is better but if possible.. intervene. Violence against men or women is bad. Nobody deserves to be a punching bag.
(ID #272983) Posted on 2008/08/21 19:17
Marketing and Law Student
In Malaysia ? The most efficient way is to call the cops and newspaper reporters. Catch the men and then show their face in media world.
(ID #272994) Posted on 2008/08/21 19:37
Student and full-time otaku
Doesn't really happen that often here I believe (or maybe i just haven't seen it). Guess our girls are tougher and take less crap
(ID #272995) Posted on 2008/08/21 19:37
Student in Japanese language and culture.
Fortunately, I've never seen this for the moment here (but it exists...). In France, I would intervene for sure, but in an other country I would just call the cops and do nothing unless there's a risk for the life of the person.
(ID #273001) Posted on 2008/08/21 19:46
I think the way of thinking in Japan places too much priority on appearances. It's very difficult for Japanese people to admit there is something wrong, and thus I imagine social problems are quite hard to deal with in Japan. An extreme example of this would be my friend's host mum's statement regarding gays in Japan: "There are no gay people in Japan, they all died of AIDS in the 70s!"
(ID #273002) Posted on 2008/08/21 19:49
Depending how violent he was being definitely intervene, call the cops when he's on the floor :D
(ID #273036) Posted on 2008/08/21 20:48
Programmer/IT/Student
I would definitely intervene in the proper situation. If I felt that I might get seriously injured for trying (broken bones, gunshot wounds), then I would just report it. Unfortunately, here in the US if you intervene in anything like that, your chance of getting shot most likely hovers somewhere around 50%.
(ID #273052) Posted on 2008/08/21 21:04
The answer to this matter: http://www.dailymotion.com/CrazyCCA/video/x61xxn_in-gura-presei-23-ianuarie-2008_fun just go to 2:20 and watch.
(ID #273087) Posted on 2008/08/21 21:36
Lurker, and part time super-villian.
I dont want to sound like i'm blowing my own trumpet, but i'm quite well known in my town for getting involved in/breaking up violence. Carnival night (my team were dressed as Mario and crew) i saw some guy his his fiance, so i... intervened. Only the third time thats happened. While violence against the fairer sex is rare where i live (bovey Tracey in devon, google map it), there's always some street fight going on and i cant not get involved. I like my town, and i liked it when it was nice and peaceful. Stupid violent people.
(ID #273098) Posted on 2008/08/21 21:46
I believe you shouldn't intervene yourself as this could exacerbate the situation. Leave that kind of thing to the people who are trained to deal with it. For example there are plenty of stories in the news at the moment about stabbings in London, a few of these have been where people try to settle things by intervening and that ends up with them being stabbed themselves.
(ID #273101) Posted on 2008/08/21 21:50
Student Engineer
Assuming actions are violent and there is physical violence- intervene. There is no reason to go off on a woman or to beat her in the first place- its just as bad as abusing kids in my book. If its an altercation thats not violent- its none of my business.
(ID #273116) Posted on 2008/08/21 22:09
Medical Research and Design
Personally even if it's against men or women, I don't believe violence should be tolerated at all. Women and Men are equals, to simply narrow it down to 'violence against women' is kind of sexist, but back to the original point: Reasonable intervention with a report to police is definately warranted. Different sides of the pond have different upbringings though, so cultures always respond in unique ways. I'm not surprised at the responses, I don't necessarily accept the ones that say 'just let it happen', but it's not a surprise. Violence only begets violence. :X
(ID #273122) Posted on 2008/08/21 22:25
Actually, in many Asian countries and LDC's, women are still treated and believed to be inferior to men, thus "violence against women" stands true on a global basis. Also, i think a culture's definition of violence is one of the causes of what other cultures may call abuse. For example, in many countries, beating a child even in his/her teenage years is a form of discipline and not abuse. But in the western perspective, a witness should call the cops immediately in order to stick with his/her morals.
(ID #273469) Posted on 2008/08/22 03:26
Cool, lol... But now 21st century, gals and guy make no diff, but still 'violence against women' isn't my kind of thing.
(ID #273139) Posted on 2008/08/21 22:54
i had a situation once where i saw a guy hit the girl on the street, i ran up to hit and started kicking the living hell out of him, then the chick jumped at me and started to shout to leave the guy alone and crap, so it's not always a good idea lol
(ID #273143) Posted on 2008/08/21 23:05
i would apply newton's third law of motion. when pushed, shove. enough said. seriously though, i wouldn't intervene, given my pathetic dexterity. i will not however, let it be. calling the cops is the obvious thing to do. however, in many asian societies we have many suffering from the bystander effect. it may seem absurd but people over here apparently prefer to adopt a stand and watch stance. what's worse, many like the lady mentioned, would rather be ridiculed and embarrassed in public, than risk ruining their relationship with their spouse. while i have nothing against that, there's a limit to what you can endure.
(ID #273161) Posted on 2008/08/21 23:24
Australia's had a similar campain a couple of years ago, under the "Australia says No" motto. A sample can be seen here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Ee5RMexNGM Admittedly, I've used the motto more for telling a friends girlfriend off for slapping him on the arm him when he says something embarassing to her. Most public domestic abuse I've seen is purely verbal, and both people were drunk/high.
(ID #273162) Posted on 2008/08/21 23:26
Intervene of course. Have done it before, will most certainly do it if I see it again ^^. And that girl in the last poster is gorgeous. I can't imagine someone treating her badly. I mean I would hit it, but not in that bad way =P.
(ID #273174) Posted on 2008/08/21 23:45
http://animenlife.blogspot.com
A time ago there was a campaign in here but it was a short one. Its really bad when you see violence in a couple and if you intervene, may get worse because of you for helping... We are trying to change tough..
(ID #273184) Posted on 2008/08/21 23:59
I would most likely report it to the authorities. Campaigns against domestic violence in general would make more sense IMHO. It's not like women are the only victims of mistreatment.It happens to a lot of kids, old people and men as well.
(ID #273220) Posted on 2008/08/22 00:52
#1 Yoko/Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann Fan!
I'd help for sure! I wouldn't take any crap about staying out of their business either! If a girl's getting hurt I'm gonna stop it! I'm just that headstrong type and I can't help it, if I ever see a girl getting hurt I jump in and hit the guy.
(ID #273227) Posted on 2008/08/22 00:56
aspiring to become a doujin and graphics artist cum lawyer
Hmm it's nice to hear that many guys do value women since they get a lot of fun stuff anyway ;) joking aside, I do think that it's also cultural. A society concerned with societal appearance puts stress so much that sometimes people become apathetic about the issue. How ironic that I was just answering a case study about abused women for my exams at uni just a few hours ago.. I remember a documentary filming (an award-winning documentary show here) chronicling a couple with an abusive partner. The cops weren't responding..due to the same reason as #2 above (Don't want to involve in other couple's issues). I hope more people are aware :P
(ID #273234) Posted on 2008/08/22 01:04
Polytechnic Senior, Bronze Lifesaving Trainee, Mech Designer, Pokemon Indexer.
Call the bloke over, and nail him in the nuts XD Unless he has a bodybuilder's build, then I nail him in the eyes. No, I'd just call the police. I'm no martial artist expert and unless it was really violent like slapping, punches thrown, bleeding, or she's in danger of being whacked real bad. Really, all this males who can't control their anger are just dumb. You're a MALE, for god's sake; act like a proper one! And those girlfriends who defend their violent partners, well, I can't say anything, but I do hope that they'd open their eyes sooner.
(ID #273235) Posted on 2008/08/22 01:04
if it's seriously that bad, i'd let the cops know or something since the police in japan seem to actually do something, unlike where i live. if he looks like a yakuza member, i'm staying the hell away lol ;o
(ID #273304) Posted on 2008/08/22 01:37
Stats around here cite that women have a better chance of being raped than being schooled. Hows that for frightening statistics? Adverts for violence are very few and I'm actually surprised if I see 1 in a couple of months.
(ID #273394) Posted on 2008/08/22 02:22
Intervene and call the cops straight away - especially when you know the other party is drunk. Sometimes I wonder in this day and age, why the other party (could be male or female) take all that crap and still not call the cops/leave the aggressor. Over here there are many institutes that help these abused people.
(ID #273417) Posted on 2008/08/22 02:41
My mother has been mentally and physically abused by her boyfriend for about 10 years now. I've called the cops on him twice on him when he started breaking windows and threatened to burn the house down when we wouldn't let him in, and another time when he tried to sufficate my mom to death and hurt my 2 year brother...I even convinced my mother to get a restraining order at one point... But she keeps letting him back into her life. While I blame the... ahhh... violent one naturally the most... Its also the other one's fault if they just want to put up with the abuse and not do anything.
(ID #273466) Posted on 2008/08/22 03:22
Engineer by weekdays, Hikki by weekends
Although be an hero is the way to go, but i'll think trice before I act. In CA, i saw ppl geting shot in the news. Get the police would be a best way rather than do nothing.
(ID #273471) Posted on 2008/08/22 03:28
I would respond in a culture-to-culture basis. If witnessed in America, i'd call the police. If witnessed in Japan, i'd probably not do anything as the woman wouldn't understand why the hell a 17 year old inferior creature would want to intervene on her business and ruin her honor when acts against women seem more accepted in her society and may be totally fine to her.
(ID #273476) Posted on 2008/08/22 03:33
I have been to a lot of places and the one determining factor in the state of any society was its treatment of women. Those that treated their women well were almost always advanced. Those that did not were almost always in chaos. Japan loves women and is an advanced society. Saudi Arabia, for all its oil wealth, must import almost all its tech and education. Despite what you might think, Saudi is not a good place to be female. Female domination might be a light read in manga, but being in a society like that is actually painful to see.
(ID #273592) Posted on 2008/08/22 06:32
Actually, Japan doesn't treat women equally that much.. it's a lot easier for a man to get a job than it is for a woman. Women are meant to be housewives when they get married, and although it doesn't sound like a bad destiny, it makes them inferior to men, cooking for them and taking care of the kids. The glass ceiling is thicker than ever in Japan, which is sad because it's such an advanced nation. Saudi Arabia sounds worse though... :P
(ID #273780) Posted on 2008/08/22 10:30
Saying housewives are inherently "inferior" is offensive. Many housewives are glad to be that, and implying "all women shouldn't be housewives" isn't much different than implying "all women should be housewives".
(ID #372619) Posted on 2008/11/15 22:17
It`s a difficult problem. Short time ago in Spain, a man was killed by a woman's boyfriend because he tried to help her when the boy was hitting her in a bar. Later the girl said in television that his boyfriend wasn't a bad guy and that he had never hit her. In Spain are very common the cases in which the neighbours call the police when they hear signs of violence in other house and, when the police cames, the hit women says that nothing has happened, maybe because they have fear of been hit again. At the second or third time of calling the police without any goal, the neighbours ends thinking that she don't want to be helped and desists. Finally, some months later, when the woman is finally killed for some reason by his husband/boyfriend and appears in the news, one can hear the neighbours saying thing like this: "yes, we used to hear him hitting her, he was a bad guy, we know that soon or after he was going to kill her",etc... Sadly, sometimes if you try to help passively calling the police you don't reach any goal and if you try to help actively one could end like the man of the history of the begining.
(ID #273484) Posted on 2008/08/22 03:47
Systems programmer
This is a tough thing. There are many incidents of that happening in public in states. What the right thing to do is call police and be the best witness and wait for police. Ive read many cases where women was getting beat by their husband/boyfriend in public and someone steps in to save her, only to have both the women and her bf/husband stop and start beating the guy. Some even ended with the savior guy, getting killed.
(ID #273487) Posted on 2008/08/22 03:54
I just wanted to make a few points. 1- to people saying that "men and women are equal now", I think this is problematic. Sure, men and women should have equal rights before the law, but anybody being honest and without some sort of agenda will of course tell you that practically we're very different. Many women live in fear of sexual violence and many women have experienced it. As a practical matter, man-on-woman abuse is more common and more emotionally damaging. Biologically, women have much different physical strength characteristics than men. Many sports differentiate between men and women for precisely this reason. The worlds strongest woman in benchpress is not even noteworthy when put on the scale of male benchpressers. I am a pretty unimpressive weightlifter (compared to real weightlifters) but within striking distance of the strongest woman benchpresser to have ever competed. Reality is that the average man is often able to physically overpower the average woman. Cultural issues that may come into play about male authority or women not wanting to cause a confrontation or other such things just make this problem worse. 2- many people are saying that the police should best handle these situations, or that they would do nothing. This is understandable but it's kind of a shame. In many animes the protagonist character will always fight to help someone being abused without regard for themselves. Often the situation is exactly that someone is being beat up and there are many onlookers but no-one will help them -- they are afraid or indifferent or suffering from crowd-effects. I think these stories are good stories, but I also think there is a message here that people need to be willing to fight for what is good and to not simply let evil be committed. When you ask heros why they did what they did (I seem to remember a story about a man being rescued from subway tracks a while back), they always say "it was the right thing to do". Such people should be emulated by all of us. It stretches us and can make us the kind of people that we could be. Of course it is difficult to overcome fear or apathy, but that is what we need in order to grow. Nothing ventured, nothing gained. 3- The real answer to this poll for me is "it depends". Many other people have pointed out that many times the woman being "abused" will defend her attacker. I've seen this a lot-- many women simply accept abuse for a variety of reasons and will defend their abuser. You must always make a judgement call about how and when to get involved. Obviously you must think of protecting yourself, and you should assume that both the man and the woman will be hostile towards you. But if someone is clearly being abused and it is likely to do them damage, I think it is important to try and stop what it is happening. Ideally you call authorities for help, and if the danger to either party is immediate, you try to diffuse things until the "professionals" can arrive. The important thing here is not to be apathetic. Every woman you see is somebodies daughter or sister. It could be yours. Every parent fears that their child will get into a relationship with the "wrong kind of person", and every parent will want someone to be courageous enough to put a stop to violence happening against their child. You could be that person, even at risk to your own self. You could be one of the people in society that does nothing, or you could be the 1% person that everyone else should aspire to be.
(ID #273495) Posted on 2008/08/22 04:05
Good points. I agree that women are certainly not equal to men in more ways than one, as i have experienced it personally and witnessed it in many different countries. You're right about the bystander-effect, how onlookers will think "someone else will call the police" but in reality, everyone's thinking that so no one takes any action. However, you have to realize that sometimes women get abused because it's a part of their country's customs. Intervening on situations of abuse in certain countries will not make you a hero, and the woman being abused will not be thankful but rather hurt by your actions. I think it's right to act when abuse is witnessed in a country that you are familiar with, but i don't think that one solution to abuse can be applied globally.
(ID #273546) Posted on 2008/08/22 05:22
Looking for work again
I would use my best judgment to determine if the lady was in danger. If she was, I would intervene without hesitation and if it did not stop, then I would involve the authorities. If the lady was not in danger, then I would leave it alone. She needs to figure out what to do and how to handle the situation. I would act the same way if it was a guy who was on the receiving end of the same situation.
(ID #273525) Posted on 2008/08/22 04:50
Gamer
If The Guy Was Under 20 I Would Intervene And Just Do A CQC On His Ass (After All I Have Completed All Snakes Substance Missions And Unlocked The Tuxedo) If Hes Any Older I Would CQC His Ass Still Just To Show How Cool I Am. Plus How Could You Hurt Cute Japanese Women ^^? There So Cool, We Should Treat Them All Like Role Models ^^
(ID #273611) Posted on 2008/08/22 07:09
Dropping computers, starting all over again at Journalism
I'd like to say I'd intervene and do something about it, but I'm not shure I'd really do that... Fortunately, never happened to me, and I hope it never happens too. It's nice that in modern Japan, women are gaining more status, and I don't doubt many of them would report to the police. In Brazil, this is also a problem... many many cases of aggression against women, and we have specific laws and women's PDs to take care of cases like that. In my opinnion, the lowest form of human being when it comes to husbands and/or boyfriends are those who cowardly uses violence against women.
(ID #273621) Posted on 2008/08/22 07:17
Gamer
Really? I never knew that there was a high violence agianst women in Brazil, Thats strange because I just done violence agianst women in school and Brazil didnt appear.
(ID #275687) Posted on 2008/08/23 22:46
Custom Pc Builder, Muppet, Pyromaniac, Demolitions Expert, Guitar Slinger,
I despise any person that would raise a hand against a woman. its one of the topics that will make me furious & i wont have any of it - I will interviene but only if i that the guy wont hurt me much. gotta be careful here in the UK - even grannies can carry knives. I will let the first hit slide but i will anlyse the guy - height, build & body language before I decide that enough is enough & jump in. Never hit a woman in my presence or I will kill you
(ID #273645) Posted on 2008/08/22 07:50
... I'm not sure if my relatives grew up on the wrong side of China, but among my grandparents and aunts it is the women who beat the husbands and children.
(ID #273646) Posted on 2008/08/22 07:50
Civil Engineering Student
In my mind I'd go and try to intervene even if it's none of my business. There's no good reason for a man to hit a woman in any situation! But in all honesty I may or may not do anything depending on how I feel at the time and the situation ^^;; I'm surprised at the "it's expected" answer but at least it's only 8.1% of 5.5% so the number isn't very high.. the people that answered that way must be the men beating their wives, lol..
(ID #273678) Posted on 2008/08/22 08:32
actually... Theres no good reason to hit anyone regardless of sex.
(ID #273759) Posted on 2008/08/22 10:02
Judging by the anime/manga, you'd think they have "Violence against men" instead.
(ID #273756) Posted on 2008/08/22 10:01
it depends on the problem.if they guy is a regular at a gym and is buff then i'll just call the cops.if not then it depends on my mood.if i feel good i'll just tell him to stop or i'll call the cops.if i'm in a bad mood then i'll just fight him what if the guy was a part of the yakuza.would anyone butt in?
(ID #273768) Posted on 2008/08/22 10:15
Mechanical Engineering student
I might sound stupid for some of you but if I ever see someone getting abused I'll definitely intervene. It's not right to hurt someone especially over such small things. Maybe the only time I wouldn't intervene is when I'm not in a right state of focus, you know, those times when you think very slowly, like you hadn't slept for some days. That happened to me sometime ago when there were these children in front of me (beggars to be exact) and the older one kicked one of the younger ones because he didn't do exactly what he said. Before I could react, this kind woman intervened and stopped them from fighting. I was like 4 feet away from the kids x_x
(ID #273858) Posted on 2008/08/22 11:45
RIDZ (登録日: 2008/08/22 12:29)
pretty simple just go and F*** THEM UP doesn't really matter what situation it is. This is probably one of the very few things that really upset me.
(ID #273906) Posted on 2008/08/22 12:32
I'd stand up to the guy until the police came, then she'll ask for my address, which I would give her, then proceed to talk about it on 2ch. Wait a sec...
(ID #273948) Posted on 2008/08/22 13:07
Random Worker/Haruhiist
whoop his ass, no question,no hesitation, basically make him my b***h... im a otaku a BIG otaku
(ID #273954) Posted on 2008/08/22 13:11
Lol. Big otaku and tough at the same time? Well I'm not an otaku but I know martial arts that involves weapons. I'm adept too. Whats your credentials?
(ID #274022) Posted on 2008/08/22 14:03
Random Worker/Haruhiist
no i mean as in size, big otaku lol im in the meaning of being a fanatic still a small time one
(ID #274231) Posted on 2008/08/22 17:01
What do you do to some guy beating on a woman? You beat the f##$ing sh** out of him. Leave the bloody sack of sh** on the ground where he belongs.
(ID #273965) Posted on 2008/08/22 13:17
student
If it's sexual harassment, then I'll definitely jump in and defend the girl... but if it's a couple quarreling, I can care less >_> I don't like to stick my nose in others business (I'll probably get told to go away) unless it becomes DEADLY serious. Then again, even if I can jump in... my physical ability is that of Lelouch... orz
(ID #274021) Posted on 2008/08/22 14:03
i voted report to the police but ithought do nothing, i wont problem with yakuzas or chinpiras. acctually a friend one time told that he see a guy punching a girl in the train and some guy it took part and after the girl punch the guy(who took part to stop). sometimes japan is a weird. my humble opinion
(ID #274051) Posted on 2008/08/22 14:32
I have never witnessed abuse towards women before, but I did once witness a mother punch her son in the face, closed fist with full force, and I called the police. Thats unnessicary.
(ID #274169) Posted on 2008/08/22 16:07
Much like anti-drug ads, I cant help but feel that these will provoke more violence amongst the rebellious type, especially the top poster here of the 2-D woman, I cant really read it, but the picture initially makes me giggle for some reason. I believe that anti-...Whatnot ads need to start taking a different approach, because from what Iv'e seen in my time, they dont attack the cause of whatever the problem is, they just depict the ideal consequence. I applaud their attempts, but I think they need to get more in touch the the human psyche in order to make a bigger impact through these ads. Good luck to them though, because the days of abusing women should be long since past, and considering the current wars, I don't think people need to digress anymore. Sorry, got i bit too much into that one
(ID #274174) Posted on 2008/08/22 16:12
I think that this is realy sad, why hit ? why not use words ? why are some men so violent ? Whe have or hand to create and survive not to slap on women god damnit ... They should do more severe punishments for thouse who hit theyre woman, not prison cause that would overflow theyre prision buildings lol, but more like a heavy money punishment. And guarantee the womans savety, because women are just scared of the after effects of they going to the police and report that they're beeing abused of by theyre husbands. I would interfere if i would see a woman beeing hit by a man, cause you don't know if it is his husband or just some crazy maniac. I dont know how it is in japan or elswere but well ... different contry different stuff ... One day i was on my way home, i stopped near a supermarket to buy some sushi and i saw a guy slap an old lady an take her pocket ... i've graped my mobile phone and hit his head he almost fell down and i've catched up to him, i've took the poket and kicked his ass. I was saddened to see a yong boy hit an old defenseless old lady. Its just sad where this is going ...
(ID #274225) Posted on 2008/08/22 16:56
I once had to intervene after seeing some couple argue and the man punched the lady in the stomach - the twist? she was pregnant - i got my head beaten in all black n blue, got spat on, kicked etc etc - he was a big guy - luckily the bouncers from the nearby pub stepped in n came to my rescue. No something i would ever want to repeat again but i would intervene - violence against women is unacceptable - unless they can take a punch n give back as good as they get, in which case it would probably be quite entertaining. That was in Port Slade near Brighton - a horrible place filled with lots of scummy sorts Ever been there Danny?
(ID #274328) Posted on 2008/08/22 18:29
Um, no idea what to do actually. It should be easier if you avoid it, =
(ID #274335) Posted on 2008/08/22 18:34
Billy Bullshot (登録日: 2008/06/05 00:28)
Interesting how the vast majority voted "intervene", whereas those posting in the discussion generally went for "call the cops".
(ID #274459) Posted on 2008/08/22 21:43
that shows that Danny's readers are all bravo ^^ I think I will only try to attack if I feel that my guts suddenly come out or I will just hide in a corner and call the cops ^^; but given my perfect reflexes now, I will just get two cute panda eyes if I DID attack. its really wrong for those women to do nothing or even defend the guy who hit them. If they are just gonna really endure it for long, they will just go crazy someday and its a pretty sad thing.
(ID #274501) Posted on 2008/08/22 22:43
i just imagined what it would be like if i really came across such a situation on the street. it probably won't happen here at all. beating usually occurs between 2 parties and not just 2 persons. and there's likely a few sane minds in the violent crowd that stop the battle. on the other hand, beating at home is much worse because no one notices unless the victim tells or reports it. i'd definitely confront the offender then. or help the victim report him if i don't know him well.
(ID #274566) Posted on 2008/08/23 00:20
Pursuing that ever-elusive diploma.
Not too bad here at all, thank god for that. Although in certain neighborhoods you can really hear the arguments and throwing of stuff...
(ID #274888) Posted on 2008/08/23 04:30
Part trooper, part -timer, 100% loser...
NO! to violence against women! If I see a guy bullying someone, what do I do? Step 1: Aim for his balls Step 2: Kick once, if you want to release stress then continue kicking... Or I could just tell the guy to stop...
(ID #274913) Posted on 2008/08/23 05:00
You would be surprised by how many guys this doesn't harm.
(ID #275067) Posted on 2008/08/23 08:32
I agree - i do chinese kickboxing and my manhood has a newfound hardened resilience! Doesnt make it any less painful though - best knockout was my friend by a little finger caught just on the edge of his eye - his eye was completely fine but he went down for a good 10 minutes its all about the little finger...
(ID #275220) Posted on 2008/08/23 12:08
If I see that a woman is being beaten by a man I do not intervene because here the people like to use guns so I better stay away, that sounds horribly, I know but inMexico the violence is in another level. I've read that if you intervene in this kind of events (in Japan), the gaijin is the main suspect just for not being Japanese, so I think that calling the police would be the best.
(ID #274995) Posted on 2008/08/23 06:38
Wannabe Jack-of-all-trades
Um, fap first, worry later? The Marquis de Sade has got nothing on me.
(ID #275021) Posted on 2008/08/23 07:15
I mean the obviously right thing to do is to report it to the police. However being the gutless person I am and among others, most would really just do nothing. Like today there was a huge group of thugs/gangsters outside the entrance of a mall and there was a huge fight among them. No way you'd intervene...[Besides, if it gets out of hand someone's bound to call the cops *very bad assumption*]
(ID #275394) Posted on 2008/08/23 16:01
Musician, Sound Engineer, Student - Currently Military (2yrs)
I think this is where Singapore comes into good light: low violence and women abuse cases. I do see cases of verbal arguments but little of the physical violence, and many guys are good at taking the verbal abuse instead of lashing out in violent objection. Score one for the small red dot!
(ID #275403) Posted on 2008/08/23 16:09
I think calling the police is the best course of action, however if situation escalates and police is not there, then I think yelling out that you called police is a good course of action. Its a good thing that there are posters of awareness. i wish we had more public message posters and displays in my area. in addition those posters are usually designed by a good companies and look very good. For example I very much like the 2nd one you have with a photo of a women. I have no idea what it says, but I defiantly come up closer to it and check it out. Sorry I'm a designer tot he end hehehe.
(ID #275929) Posted on 2008/08/24 04:00
.NET/Web Developer
Around here the women owns you! lol. well, not really but they do fight back and not get pushed around by their men.
(ID #277347) Posted on 2008/08/25 10:17
Ninja / Engineer / Sensei / 魔法少女 (What!?! I can't be, I'm a guy...)
I mean, helping is great and all, but you just wouldn't know what kind of situation you might get yourself into. If you're lucky, then you do a good deed and protected someone. If you're not so lucky, well, then you just aren't lucky. I think that's why people tend to have the police deal with it rather then themselves. This is one of those things where it is hard to make a decision without enough details.
(ID #277947) Posted on 2008/08/25 18:07
Mano (登録日: 2008/06/21 23:17)
i wonder at the time the police come did the world end or not. sly in my hometown with asian culture , when you call the police and said there are a woman being beated by her bf then you will receive a answer "GTFO" . so intervene if it look serious matter or else just a slap or two then i will do nothing
(ID #278341) Posted on 2008/08/26 01:33
slap or a punch - violence is violence - i do agree that you may not know what your getting yourself into and it may get you in some serious sh*t - though at the time my situation was extreme so i stepped in without thinking - i wonder what i would have done differently if i were to relive that situation...
(ID #278791) Posted on 2008/08/26 12:02
Went on a date once with a fantastic girl, she was stunningly beautiful, was a great cook, loved all the same things I did and I was in heaven.. Seriously now, don't laugh. Things were going really well until she confessed before our "*first time* there was really only one thing she could do to *experience pleasure* during intercourse. She said she wanted me to punch her square in the face full force until I drew blood.. It killed what had been a romantic moment, and the relationship itself stone cold. I later found out she was used to guys up to 30 years older than me who would throw her around and generally beat her up. Certainly changed my perceptions of all women feeling the same way about violence!
(ID #282168) Posted on 2008/08/28 23:56
Brutal - i knew some girls who liked that....donkeypunch
(ID #282250) Posted on 2008/08/29 01:36
Really?! I thought she was a one off.. the slang for it as well. I must have been living under a rock at the time! As for Port Slade I've added it to my newly created "blacklist"..
(ID #282796) Posted on 2008/08/29 10:41
confused who drew the blood? you or her? anyway... if i were u, i'll find a way to recover her insanity well, u don't regret broking up with her up, don't u?
(ID #287283) Posted on 2008/09/02 02:01
that depends. I definitely will report the matter to someone. But the women should try to do something by herself.
(ID #283955) Posted on 2008/08/30 06:52
A guy here in Spain intervened when a dude was beating up his girlfriend, and then the guy beat him up and put him in a coma. the funny thing is later the woman stated that the boyfriend who had done this was a wonderful person and not violent at all. Duh.
(ID #288297) Posted on 2008/09/03 00:09
>__<
(ID #289908) Posted on 2008/09/04 06:41
where i live its the opposite
(ID #320155) Posted on 2008/10/02 06:33
Programmer Trainee
I so far have not seen men bullying women in public. And I'm relieved to know. It could be the power of religion posing all over people here..or we are just really nice.
(ID #324882) Posted on 2008/10/06 20:18
Once I've tried to be a referee in a couple's scene. In all ends I've lost my friend... years later somebody told me an old Russian proverb "he who hits you-loves you". Odd proverb... It puzzled me long time...
(ID #341647) Posted on 2008/10/21 20:57
duncanmc (登録日: 2008/06/13 06:19)
Better to call a police. On the other hand Japanese women are getting stronger
(ID #343811) Posted on 2008/10/23 21:34
current NYC slogan if you see something say something
(ID #430521) Posted on 2008/12/31 13:56
Writer, Illustrator, Collector, and Geek Philosopher
Ever hear of a guy called Henry Darger? He was this outsider artist guy who got raped by a WOMAN. It happens, as rare as it is. And his whole life people laughed at him because they thought the notion of a man getting raped by a woman was absurd. So girls, don't rape guys if they don't want to put out, as hard as it is to believe, some people value relationships as something more.
(ID #437445) Posted on 2009/01/06 14:40
If a lady has problems because of other people, the best way to intervene is to ignore the people which pushing her around and take the lady on the hand and take her out from them. After this you could a other person to call the police if it is necessary. Whatever, when this should not work, then learn a Martial Art, like me, and rescue her heroical :D I learn Krav Maga Survival, an Israeli self-defence system. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_OBkmSvglUc&fmt=18
(ID #440730) Posted on 2009/01/09 04:32
High School Student/Babysitter
Yes. Any martial art is helpful. I've learned Karate Do Goju Ryu up to Orange-Green belt.
(ID #587876) Posted on 2009/05/02 13:33
High School Student/Babysitter
Unfortunately for many couples, domestic abuse is still a major problem in many parts of the World. Not even Canada is immune to such intolerable actions. It also happens to be a sad fact that in many abusive relationships, the abused are usually frightened enough to not seek help, and when confronted will defend the abuser, even though the evidence is clear. I personally would attempt to intervene. Abuse, especially in a public space (And everywhere else) is unacceptable. The bystander effect is disgusting, and studies have actually shown, that if there is a crowd, people are less likely to intervene.
(ID #587873) Posted on 2009/05/02 13:30
I never supposed that violence against women is a great problem in Japan. I read that one in five-six Japanese women have suffered violence from the men in their lives. Nevertheless, I think if you compare Japan to other countries — like Mexico, for example — it's not that bad here.
(ID #638408) Posted on 2009/06/09 00:13
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