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Wed 2008/06/25 13:19
「ロンドンのイメージとは」を日本人の友達に聞くと、「ノッティングヒル」や「ビッグベン」や「オクスフォードストリート」などと奇麗なところばっかり。彼達はロンドンのボロボロなところを見た事がないからだ。
いつもピカピカ奇麗な東京の写真を見せている僕は東京のあっちこっちのボロボロなところを見せたいと思います。この記事の英語版では長く解説しています。このブログは親日家用なので、ジャパンバシングと誤解されないでね^^; (誤解したユーザーが既にいました)
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Calan in Canada (登録日: 2008/05/25 02:10)
Student
Not very many run down areas near here. Some on the outskirts of the city, though...
(ID #221425) Posted on 2008/06/25 13:25
Calan in Canada (登録日: 2008/05/25 02:10)
Student
Oh, and typos:
"I dont know of any single area" dont -> don't
"I didnt want to give the impression" didnt -> didn't
"How often to you go and visit" to -> do
"bring be back to Malaysia" be -> me
"figures when its sold." its -> it's
"photos of rundown ares" ares -> areas
^_^
(ID #221431) Posted on 2008/06/25 13:30
Danny Choo in Tokyo (登録日: 2006/12/11 11:54)
Director/代表取締役
Thanks for the typos ^^;
Today I have a good excuse. I'm lying down in bed today because my back is playing up.
BTW, is "dont, didnt and its" incorrect?
(ID #221435) Posted on 2008/06/25 13:41
Trent in Minnesota (登録日: 2007/02/10 16:01)
Otaku
(it doesn't really matter to me, but...) dont should be "don't" because it is a contraction of do and not, didnt should be didn't because it is a contraction of did and not, and its should actually remain its - you only write it's to show possession of the antecedent "it" is in place for... so its Calan's bad on that one...
(ID #221446) Posted on 2008/06/25 14:04
tenrou in Monterey, CA (登録日: 2008/04/16 17:19)
闘神
"its" is a possessive

"it's" is a contraction meaning "it is"
(ID #221627) Posted on 2008/06/25 18:18
Gammagreen_Zero in Porto, Portugal, Earth Federation (登録日: 2007/02/19 04:12)
Student, Gamer, Part-time EFSF Pilot
touché
(ID #221764) Posted on 2008/06/25 21:12
darktek13 in U.S. (登録日: 2008/02/04 00:32)
Internal Helpdesk
Calan and tenrou are correct on it's ^_^
(ID #222028) Posted on 2008/06/26 03:59
BandAiD in 米国 (登録日: 2008/01/08 09:40)
C. Engineering Student
Thankfully you got this site and whatnot to keep your english from getting too rusty.  I should probably do something similar in the future.
(ID #222214) Posted on 2008/06/26 10:41
sash in United States (登録日: 2007/12/29 21:00)
N/A
Can you stop pointing out Danny's typos ? its not like we don't get the point. Obviously he was typing fast and possibly hit the wrong keys. It would take him longer and harder to post just to make sure its perfect. This is just a blog, not a book thats going to be published. 
(ID #221481) Posted on 2008/06/25 14:47
Danny Choo in Tokyo (登録日: 2006/12/11 11:54)
Director/代表取締役
I actually dont mind the typo checks as it does help me keep on my toes. I really should start to read more English language books before I forget my Engrish all together ^^;
(ID #221490) Posted on 2008/06/25 14:59
Gammagreen_Zero in Porto, Portugal, Earth Federation (登録日: 2007/02/19 04:12)
Student, Gamer, Part-time EFSF Pilot
That seems to tend to happen... Yesterday there was this piece on the news about eastern europeans living here in Portugal and there was this one kid from Ucraine (I think) that spoke very nice portuguese and was talking about how he doesn't remember how to write in ucranian any more.

So, you're not alone on that one Danny-san! ^_^
(ID #221765) Posted on 2008/06/25 21:16
technonewt in Southern Oregon, United States (登録日: 2007/11/02 12:29)
College Student
While we on the topic of typos, I think its Ukraine, with a k.
(ID #222060) Posted on 2008/06/26 05:01
Koshiko in Sydney (登録日: 2007/08/03 13:25)
website designer (currently assist. graphic designer)
I think it adds to your charms Danny, lol~
Don't stress too much about it, it's the content we're interested in, fixing typos is a bonus for you (and us as we get to nit-pick, hehe~ ;p~)
(ID #221856) Posted on 2008/06/25 23:46
necrophadian in Palookaville, USA (登録日: 2007/04/22 13:01)
Procrastinator Extraordinaire
it seems we have a Grammer Nazee in our midst...
(ID #221491) Posted on 2008/06/25 15:00
picupicu in Shenzhen, china (登録日: 2007/08/12 08:55)
Interactive design, web 2.0 entrepreneur
Well I certainly think its not the right place to correct those mistakes. Isn't there a private messaging function or something?
Personally I think blogs can have typos and spelling mistakes. I prefer more posts with a dynamic language and fast typing over fewer posts with perfect grammar.
(ID #221543) Posted on 2008/06/25 16:24
Calan in Canada (登録日: 2008/05/25 02:10)
Student
I was trying to avoid putting them in the comments before (I suggested a "report typo" feature), but Danny told me to just use the comments, and so I did.
(ID #221990) Posted on 2008/06/26 03:01
Danny Choo in Tokyo (登録日: 2006/12/11 11:54)
Director/代表取締役
As I mentioned -  I dont mind and do appreciate folks pointing out typos.
Instant messaging feature soon (ish) ^^;
(ID #222183) Posted on 2008/06/26 09:51
Gammagreen_Zero in Porto, Portugal, Earth Federation (登録日: 2007/02/19 04:12)
Student, Gamer, Part-time EFSF Pilot
Actually it's Nazi (xD)
(ID #221766) Posted on 2008/06/25 21:17
King of Eroge in USA (登録日: 2008/06/23 16:38)
Otaku
Lmao xD But, if you were a real Nazi about it, you would have picked up that he spelled "grammar," "grammer." O.O

While on the subject, I need to start using my "too" and "to"s right. 
(ID #221848) Posted on 2008/06/25 23:37
necrophadian in Palookaville, USA (登録日: 2007/04/22 13:01)
Procrastinator Extraordinaire
i was trying to be ironic, fail.
(ID #222057) Posted on 2008/06/26 04:54
Calan in Canada (登録日: 2008/05/25 02:10)
Student
I'm not saying "omg danny u r t3h sux0rz @ da english u suk stop writing posts if u cant rite in english lolololol n00b" - if I were him, I would be making mistakes too. As such, I don't ever expect (or necessarily want) his posts to be perfect. You'll also notice I don't try to "correct" the obvious grammar mistakes that contribute to the uniqueness (and thus enjoyment) of his posts. I'm just trying to point out typos that any of us would make, and I don't think pointing them out/getting them fixed detracts from anyone's enjoyment. 
That said, if Danny wants me to stop posting typos, I'd have no problem doing so, but he has expressed that he's fine with it...
(ID #221994) Posted on 2008/06/26 03:02
sash in United States (登録日: 2007/12/29 21:00)
N/A
Ah, sounds good. sorry if I sounded rude, its cool that Danny don't mind it. =D
(ID #222421) Posted on 2008/06/26 15:54
number1guy in United States (登録日: 2007/11/09 06:22)
University Student
The town that I live in is fairly new and most of it's development has taken place within the last 5 or so years so everything is new. I do see more run down areas in the next towns over though.
(ID #221426) Posted on 2008/06/25 13:27
Derringer in Berkeley, CA (登録日: 2008/06/19 08:53)
Student
Yep, they're mostly kept out of the spotlight much like how you say people have this image of London that runs through their minds.
(ID #221428) Posted on 2008/06/25 13:28
BandAiD in 米国 (登録日: 2008/01/08 09:40)
C. Engineering Student
Whenever I see "run down" areas, I don't really see an area filled with crime, low-lifes, etc.  I just see a place with a long past and many memories, even if I wasn't there for them.  I usually can recreate an idea of what the place looked like "new".

Great article Danny.

Yes, we own land here in the US, a lot of it too, though not THAT expensive.
(ID #221429) Posted on 2008/06/25 13:28
nanu (登録日: 2007/12/28 22:28)
This town is an old town.  It is rather just historical like you phrase it, and less "run down" now that I think about it.

While there is typical litter around, there are isolated cases of unmaintained property.  I know of a hippie who always keeps items out in the carport as if they are sale, and he has a plastic storage box with lid, for a mailbox.  But ancient or ugly old cars dead in yards, is rather common.
(ID #221444) Posted on 2008/06/25 14:01
Jotham in Los Angeles, CA (登録日: 2008/03/08 17:07)
Student, Crtsy clerk for Ralph's
yup theres alot of that around here
(ID #221433) Posted on 2008/06/25 13:40
alan.kun in Mexico (登録日: 2008/05/13 09:36)
Student
In Mexico we have a lot of places like those but the sad thing is that crime is a common problem so if you are in a place with broken windows, dirt on the streets and old houses, you better watch out and hide your wallet. It's sad but it's the truth.
(ID #221436) Posted on 2008/06/25 13:41
Last{[0]}Raven in ☆DANNYCHOO Site ☆ (登録日: 2008/01/02 13:43)
Raven, AMV & MAD maker, Otaku
only some here in the place where i am currently living
(ID #221441) Posted on 2008/06/25 13:55
tintin-san in シンガポオル Singapore (登録日: 2008/05/12 02:03)
大学生
Cannot recall much delapidated places in Singapore. Maybe the occassional run-down houses as no one lives in them anymore.

Wow, 39 million Yen per sq metre?! Wtf. That's bout SGD 530,000 bucks! Gosh.
(ID #221453) Posted on 2008/06/25 14:13
nya-chama in London, United Kingdom (登録日: 2007/10/31 10:06)
Student/Freelance Programmer
Hmm, since I left Spain I've only been back 3 times. All my friends and family live in London so don't have that many people to visit in other countries.

If I remember correctly, London was voted the dirtiest city in Europe ^^;;; The problem is that certain bouroughs in London don't know how to handle their budget(and their residents don't give a crap either).
On the bright side, London was voted to have the nightlife and parks, second best place to shop after Paris~ Wai~
(ID #221463) Posted on 2008/06/25 14:21
x33b in Chicago (登録日: 2007/11/24 05:37)
Network Admin
In my particular area there isn't alot of run down houses. However, I can move 20 minutes south and I'll find nothing but the ghetto. Here owning land usually means you own a house though the two don't always go hand in hand. I currently own my own home. Since the economy here is kinda starting to suck new home pricing is starting to drop due to lack of sales. Four years ago houses would go for $600,000 US Dollars easily within a week of being built. Now comparable houses struggle to sell at $300,000 and many homes are being foreclosed on.
(ID #221472) Posted on 2008/06/25 14:33
Aurora (登録日: 2006/12/26 09:37)
Wow, those pictures are eye-openners to me. I guess even the most populus city have a run-down area.
(ID #221475) Posted on 2008/06/25 14:38
sulk in Toronto, Canada (登録日: 2007/04/02 13:52)
Director/Technical Director, Cameraman
In Canada, most of the run down places would be within the big cities, or if the areas been around for a while. 
I'd say a lot of Canada is suburbs, which were made recently, past 30 years or so, so if you're in the suburbs, it'll be nice, downtown, then you can find old run down places.
(ID #221478) Posted on 2008/06/25 14:40
Rin in Toronto (登録日: 2008/01/04 17:05)
Student Otaku
I usually see really old battered houses in the country side. Wow, old houses. Some of these are just creepy. Makes me think of the Grudge. 
Still, wow, land must be worth a least a house these days in Japan...
(ID #221479) Posted on 2008/06/25 14:43
Jonathan Reinhardt in Jakarta, Indonesia (登録日: 2008/05/24 18:04)
Designer, Trader
Those pics you took are still good (I mean liveable) compare to some run down area in my city. Lots of village people try their luck in Jakarta and usually they live in a very poor area. Those people don't live in real houses, usually they built their "houses" from very thin plywood for walls and zinc roof. I really want to share some pics when I get my feet to those neighbourhood.
(ID #221484) Posted on 2008/06/25 14:51
Vincent III in Richfield, Ohio (登録日: 2007/03/22 10:20)
Student/Graphic Designer
I live out in farm country so there is more run down buildings around here than nice ones.  Most of the people who live in them are nice and some of my best friends live in them.  Their houses make those ones look great.  I've been fortunate though to not have to live in a run down home.
(ID #221500) Posted on 2008/06/25 15:07
Tiny Red Man in Shingapooru.. (登録日: 2007/04/11 17:39)
i just took a stroll around my office area, and it look something like the pictures above...should take photos next time. 
(ID #221502) Posted on 2008/06/25 15:14
Koshiko in Sydney (登録日: 2007/08/03 13:25)
website designer (currently assist. graphic designer)
Not in my area that I'm aware of... Houses are generally fine, but depending on where you go, you can find a lot of rubbish outside apartments and houses (generally apartments), mostly in areas where there are a lot of none-english speaking families living.
The area I don't like is around Newtown near Sydney... smells bad and people carry their pets around and into shops. I only visited once to watch Howl's Moving Castle at Dendy cinema with subtitles (every other Dendy had the english dub version). I don't go out to explore much so I wouldn't know of any other suburb matching your description more closely. Also, Australia's fairly young, that might factor.
(ID #221504) Posted on 2008/06/25 15:15
Martin Wandering in The Wild West (登録日: 2008/02/04 10:49)
Student, Spiral Warrior
Those pictures remind me of most of the residential areas I've seen in Taibei – just take all the grass and replace it with asphalt, and turn all the wooden buildings into concrete. 
(ID #221505) Posted on 2008/06/25 15:17
chun in work, buried ^^; (登録日: 2007/01/09 15:21)
part time illustrationist, doll clothing seamstress
My first home is one of those really run down kind wooden walls, zinc roof, cement floors, but at the time no digital camera.  When I was about 6-7 years old, we were forced move out by the government, so all that remains is my memories of the place ^^; it was eventually pulled down :( we used to have animals like dog/cat/chicken, and would have crazy adventures like discovering a snake under my dad's car while squatting by the drain to brush our teeth lol. May try to dig out some kid pix I have somewhere floating around :P

And hmmm Haven't gone back to Singapore in about say, a couple years, cos tickets are expensive =_=; this year we got a morgage started also, so to go back to asia, gotta save up for it ^^;
(ID #221508) Posted on 2008/06/25 15:21
chun in work, buried ^^; (登録日: 2007/01/09 15:21)
part time illustrationist, doll clothing seamstress
Dug up 3 old pix but hmmmmm I dunno, those pix are at least 30 years old lol I dunno how much of those kinda housing is left, since Singapore is full of concrete jungle these days ^^;
(ID #221516) Posted on 2008/06/25 15:37
XSportSeeker in Brazil (登録日: 2007/08/22 06:18)
Dropping computers, starting all over again at Journalism
Brazil = favelas.
Well, that's not entirely true... but almost all big cities has them.
Most of them don't have right in the middle of the city, like Rio de Janeiro and Sao Paulo though.

About Tokyo... even the old buildings has some charm on them.
I saw some of them... I remember while I was in Akiba I saw this old run down building in the middle of 2 big moderns ones. Kinda funny... looked like it was being bullied.

Anyways, this Ryokan we stayed in Osaka was in a kinda run down 2 story building too. It had a very small ofuro... but it was kinda fun. Narrow steep stairs, my uncle didn't like much... :P
(ID #221511) Posted on 2008/06/25 15:28
XSportSeeker in Brazil (登録日: 2007/08/22 06:18)
Dropping computers, starting all over again at Journalism
Danny, the Post Comment on top of the page isn't working for me. Firefox 2.
Dunno if it's affecting others.

Lucky me I'm used to CTRL+C every message I post... :P
(ID #221512) Posted on 2008/06/25 15:30
Danny Choo in Tokyo (登録日: 2006/12/11 11:54)
Director/代表取締役
What happens when you click?
(ID #221787) Posted on 2008/06/25 21:56
XSportSeeker in Brazil (登録日: 2007/08/22 06:18)
Dropping computers, starting all over again at Journalism
It closes and "swallows" the reply. XD
Doesn't reload the page... and doesn't post the message either...
(ID #222145) Posted on 2008/06/26 08:07
Akiba-Kid in California, USA (登録日: 2008/01/17 12:23)
Online Shop
Los Angeles is same, one part is a glamorous city and next part is some run-down slum area.

I have cousins living back in Korea and I went to visit them last year.  It was good to see all of my relatives again but honestly, trip to Korea wasn't as fun as trip to Japan(I know because I went to Japan 3 days after I came back from Korea) ^^;  
(ID #221521) Posted on 2008/06/25 15:42
hked in Sydney (登録日: 2008/06/08 13:57)
Student
well, housing/land prices are increasingly on the rise, and governments have started giving out subsidies, i dunno around other places, but some house got sold around where i live for 2.5mil aud, with a rundown house and an average size of land 
(ID #221527) Posted on 2008/06/25 15:57
persocomsan in Pueblo, US (登録日: 2008/06/20 09:25)
I live in a run-down area -.-
(ID #221545) Posted on 2008/06/25 16:26
Frostea in Singapore (登録日: 2008/05/16 00:03)
Is secretly drooling at large eyes
As long as the capitalistic system exist, those kind of places is unavoidable.
(ID #221547) Posted on 2008/06/25 16:30
Evil King in Vlaardingen, the Netherlands, Earth (登録日: 2007/12/19 01:12)
Student and full-time otaku
Interesting to see Tokyo's not-so-shiny side. Keeps the reality in check. We obviously have run down areas over here, but not that many. Also, cities are trying to improve these parts by new construction etc.
(ID #221560) Posted on 2008/06/25 16:45
soonkiong in Malaysia (登録日: 2007/08/22 13:38)
1st year Civil Engineering Student
Plenty of squatters living on government land illegally here, most of them are illegal immigrants from neighbouring countries. Not a very pretty sight, and as always the local government doesn't even move an inch to evict these illegal squatters. 
(ID #221573) Posted on 2008/06/25 16:53
lonetitans in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia (登録日: 2008/04/25 01:37)
the local government have challenges to 'move' for local project, what more of evicting illegal squatters? haha
(ID #221728) Posted on 2008/06/25 20:28
Akari in Canada (登録日: 2008/06/16 05:40)
Well there are areas in Vancouver, specifically the Downtown Eastside...Although there is also the social mix of Chinese Canadians and urban Aboriginals. However in another part there are also drug-addicts and homelessness. Let's use wikipedia!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Downtown_Eastside
(ID #221576) Posted on 2008/06/25 16:56
Kaipo in Hawaii (登録日: 2008/06/24 21:50)
19 Kilo United States Army
There is actually quite a bit of rundown areas in Hawaii.
THE TOUR PICS SPEAK OF LIES!
(ID #221588) Posted on 2008/06/25 17:17
NPC in Rocklin, CA (登録日: 2007/12/06 16:19)
JR. College Student
Not many run down places in my city, if any. Mainly because 90% of the development here took place within the last 20 years.
(ID #221593) Posted on 2008/06/25 17:27
-XYZPDQ in Pennsylvania, United States (登録日: 2007/01/01 15:00)
Student Engineer
Hmmm.... to answer the poll question there are not many places like that around here. I live in the Lehigh Valley area of Pennsylvania and it is generally a nice place to live. If you want run down and old, head for the outskirts of Bethlehem, Allentown, Easton or Emmaus, etc. Cities such as Bath and Nazareth are very nice- I have been to them and have not seen anything run down. They are relatively safe cities and are kept well. Wilson... HAH. Easton and Wilson- if you want old, run down and decrepit (moderate crime) then these two cities are where you want to go.
(ID #221601) Posted on 2008/06/25 17:38
-XYZPDQ in Pennsylvania, United States (登録日: 2007/01/01 15:00)
Student Engineer
also wanted to mention that old and decrepit areas like this in the lehigh valley area have been the targets of re-developers, they buy the property and plop brand new houses down. I like it over them taking our farmland. The Amish, especially a little south of us are stubborn and awesome- they will not sell the farm.
(ID #221605) Posted on 2008/06/25 17:40
Sabekuji Kaneda in Parañaque, Philippines (登録日: 2008/06/21 21:26)
Mechanical Engineering student
O_o At least the owners of those houses own the land. Here, everywhere you go you'll see squatters. Squatters beside office buildings, schools, rivers, ocean, airport, etc. You'll get use to it though especially the smell of garbage. I don't blame them though why they became squatters but it makes my blood boil whenever the government wishes them to leave but the squatters refuse since they claim that since they've been living there for a long time they should have the land.
(ID #221606) Posted on 2008/06/25 17:40
liquidtension in Philippines (登録日: 2008/04/30 19:38)
Graphic Designer
Yeah, we had a squatter problem before. We had to PAY them just so they'd leave. It's not as though they were helping us pay the income taxes.
(ID #221963) Posted on 2008/06/26 02:25
Sabekuji Kaneda in Parañaque, Philippines (登録日: 2008/06/21 21:26)
Mechanical Engineering student
You had to pay for them to leave?! WTF?! You should have called the MMDA to get rid of them instead! lol XD
(ID #222698) Posted on 2008/06/26 23:01
retsuya in Nibelheim (登録日: 2008/02/29 08:55)
Shinra First Class
lol... we got a whole city of it
(ID #221625) Posted on 2008/06/25 18:09
coffeebugg in disposed (登録日: 2008/05/22 18:59)
resident caffeine junkie
"Many run down areas in your region?" - the region is practically a run down area. and we have our gov't to thank for that.  Here the Philippines you'll see a posh