G's Festival
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Sat 2008/05/24 11:14
初めてのG's Festivalだ。付いているのは150x50cmの千堂瑛里華マイクロファイバータオルだ。
今日はあの『美少女ゲーム（エロゲ）・アニメを楽しむ人は、人間性失ってる。少女殺害等に繋がるので販売規制を」…民主党議員が請願』のことについてディスカッションしようと思っています。この規制が本当に実施されたら、日本は経済的な危機に陥るのでやめた方がいい。
Director/代表取締役
Checking for bugs...
(ID #195473) Posted on 2008/05/24 09:23
Director/代表取締役
Checking for a reply-to bug...
(ID #195474) Posted on 2008/05/24 09:23
study
but i like eroge anime
(ID #195551) Posted on 2008/05/24 11:22
オタク by moonlight, Graphic Designer by daylight
Me too! And I like those eroge anime without ero scene.
(ID #197601) Posted on 2008/05/27 02:37
wicked way of proppin up the stormtrooper armor saves space eh? and the towel is really nice. but is it really "microfiber"?
(ID #195559) Posted on 2008/05/24 11:26
Director/代表取締役
no idea - its just really thin.
(ID #195561) Posted on 2008/05/24 11:28
Thin, thick, I don't care. It looks awsome either way. If only I could somehow get one while I'm still living with my parents. (18 about to graduate from High School, so I can't just have something like that hanging on my wall. Hell, she doesn't like my Lucky Star shirt I got from the LE DVD. Yet she's alright with my bikini haruhi pillow...)
(ID #195609) Posted on 2008/05/24 12:33
I want that "micro-towel"O.o Eroge definitely leads to less crime; why be a perv in public when you can do it in the privacy of your own home... with Erika.
(ID #195564) Posted on 2008/05/24 11:30
Raven, AMV & MAD maker, Otaku
lots of awsome stuff you have there danny <.<
(ID #195569) Posted on 2008/05/24 11:38
part time illustrationist, doll clothing seamstress
oh microfiber is supposed to be super soft towels not like regular towels' texture ^^
(ID #195571) Posted on 2008/05/24 11:39
Troubleshooter, Universal Exports
I guess a quick answer to this would bill would be "Volstead Act". The Volstead Act didn't make the U.S. a more moral place or stop people from drinking. In many ways one could argue it caused more problems. Politicians could really care less about what the problems. We know their motivation is to win votes. I suppose I'm one of those thick headed individuals who refuse to believe that these things lead people to commit crime. It's the same for me. I rarely play eroge games however, I do enjoy the 2D girls. Probably wouldn't read much of the manga but would like to have the goodies. Hmm... towel might be microfiber on one side. Many of the new microfiber towels for glass are made that way.
(ID #195573) Posted on 2008/05/24 11:45
I'm waiting for mine to arrive :D I hope the towel quality is good
(ID #195577) Posted on 2008/05/24 11:49
Student
eehhhh .... *speechless*
(ID #195585) Posted on 2008/05/24 12:00
hah...saw that mag at my local Kinokuniya last week. wasn't sure if the towel was in it though, otherwise i would have considered getting it. pple who believe playing GTA or any fighting game would make someone go n shoot someone would tend to believe that playing eroge game would turn pple into sex fiends too i guess.
(ID #195593) Posted on 2008/05/24 12:04
Kinokuniya usually keeps the freebies at the service counter so that people do not steal em. you can collect them after paying up
(ID #195714) Posted on 2008/05/24 14:07
thanks man. yah, saw the sticker telling u to collect the stuff. But i wasn't sure if ALL the goodies on the cover were in it or it was case of just one item out of the four. haha
(ID #196330) Posted on 2008/05/25 09:24
Oh Dear! It seems that the UK isn't the only country with dim politicians!! We've had the same arguments put forward about rap music, games consoles, even field sports! Do these goody-goody types really believe that reading/watching fantasy tales will make Mr Average commit any crime they may have just read/viewed? I think not. Those politicians who believe things like that must remember that they are there to give voice to the opinions of the people they represent. Perhaps their offices are not in the real world?
(ID #195771) Posted on 2008/05/24 16:15
Student, Spiral Warrior
Unfortunately for the common people, it seems any kind of politician but the dim one is rather rare.
(ID #195870) Posted on 2008/05/24 19:42
Games aren't going to make you commit a crime. For that matter neither will music. The game might keep you busy, but if you are the type who is going to to commit violent crimes the game isn't going to stop you.
(ID #195598) Posted on 2008/05/24 12:14
Student and Miku Guardian
Those are some sweet items you've got there Danny.. ^^ Anyway, I saw the top banner of the website.. I see you've completed the final design of Mirai's sister.. Have you given her a name Danny??
(ID #195601) Posted on 2008/05/24 12:19
Can you imagine the difference it would make in the murder rates of South Africa and Latin American nations if all of their governments had people with the guts to do what this woman is proposing?
(ID #195611) Posted on 2008/05/24 12:34
Basically nothing. And people have proposed and done similar stuff in Brazil (where I live). We had a major discussion not long ago about doujinshi of DBZ characters with erotic content in the Internet. They made a major fuss like it was something unconceivable, closed down some websites, and lots of other stuff. Child abuse and prostitution in Brazil is on the loose, specially on northern states. But it has absolutely nothing to do with lolicon and eroges. In northern states, the anime/manga culture isn't even that spread out. It's about the police not making their part because they lack apparel and people, it's about how easy it is to find children on the streets, it's about politicians wasting time on stuff like the DBZ doujinshi case instead of really spending money to stop child prostitution. It's a political maneuver to get the responsibility off their hands. They don't want to spend more money on the issue, so they make up stuff like that to make people they are really doing something about it. Much like what's happening with Games nowadays.
(ID #195637) Posted on 2008/05/24 12:57
Well, in America, "Family Matters" stopped taping in 1997. Today, a mere ten years later, instances of teenagers building jet packs and cloning themselves is almost zero!
(ID #195732) Posted on 2008/05/24 14:26
Asst. Manager at a *******
I'm jealous. I'm wondering why Kinokuniya Bookstore here in L.A. doesn't stock up on G'S Festival Comic. I would love to add this to my collection, especially the Dakimakura.
(ID #195612) Posted on 2008/05/24 12:34
I don't really think it leads to more sinister stuff. Just like how the I believe violent games don't lead to more violence (and when you check the rate of young violence (in the US at least), it has gone down dramatically since the introduction of video games) sex and rape games most likely don't lead to more rape in real life. I've seen my share of sex games (some with underage loli's by Key) and I haven't gone around raping every loli in real life I set my eyes on. tl:dr no, it doesn't lead to more crimes.
(ID #195615) Posted on 2008/05/24 12:37
Nice... taking notes next time I find a G's Festival I'll buy it. About the discussion on the underage anime girls ban... I posted a long comment on Kotaku, so to avoid rewriting everything, I'll just copy-paste it here. But summary, I think it's as stupid as trying to ban violent games because some people thing it's wrong. (also, sorry for the aggressiveness, but there were lots of stupid comments before mine) "Screw that petition. What's next? Banning graphic violence? It doesn't matter if you like this or not, if you consider this tasteless or not. Because the next thing they ban could be something you like and most people don't. This isn't justifiable. Just like banning games claiming they lead to violence without proof also isn't. People have to think outside their own worlds on this one. While you may not like eroges that depicts underage characters, some people do. In fact, if there's a petition to it, it means there's a market to it, meaning lots of people probably do. And nothing proves such games are harmful, or that they lead to something else, no matter how disgusting, tasteless, or whatever you personally think it is. Just like violent games. I mean, do people here realize that some parents and people sees violent games just as some here sees such erogames? They think: "I don't like them, they are tasteless, I shure have no problem in banning them". Violent games are much like the same. People assume they are harmful, they personally don't like them, so they think "screw the people who likes them, let's just ban it". By allowing governments to forbid such things, we are allowing to further actions. Like banning violence on cartoons, banning stories about rape and incest, banning gay and anal porn, bondage, tentacle rape, and so forth and so on. And this might not affect only games... they could go on to movies, books, and who knows what else. What I mean is: Just because a majority of people don't like something, you can't just ban it. We're moving backwards with stuff like these. I know all those are taboos, but people gotta see what's the real intent behind such actions. This is also a way to say "see, where doing something about pedophiles". But with no prove that such games have anything to do with child abuse and other related crimes, it means nothing. It's like tactics to avoid doing the right thing... which is thinking of better ways to prevent and arrest criminals."
(ID #195623) Posted on 2008/05/24 12:45
PS People don't have anything else to do, so they blame something. >_>;
(ID #195642) Posted on 2008/05/24 13:00
I hate to say it, but there are people out there that play games and CAN get ideas from them. But in truth you can get ideas from anything. Books, internet, it doesn't matter you can get ideas anywhere. It's just games are high on the list for how many people play them. I don't see news about people getting hurt, killed because of a book. Not saying it didn't happen at "one" time, but I haven't seen it and I am sure a lot of people read books. I think you can't blame just one thing and I believe if someone did something bad it most likely would of happen even if they didn't play "that" game because they would of gotten the idea from somewhere else if not come up with it there selfs. I love games, I wish I can play more ero-games, but I like to read them as well [I am a story whore, sue me].
(ID #195638) Posted on 2008/05/24 12:58
Nice room and towel ^^. Is that PG Strike hanging from the ceiling??
(ID #195643) Posted on 2008/05/24 13:01
Student
banned? that's a bad idea, if they do that, they can harm others freedom, not anybody like eroge and there's people enjoyed playing it, like me xD They just thinking about themself, without thinking others, not anybody have the same way of thinking with them, and what they wanna did i think is just wrong
(ID #195651) Posted on 2008/05/24 13:04
there's not much eroge for mac though... i see your macbook pro's back ^^. just noticed you had your figures/gundams high up on the wall. ever lost figures/gundams to minor earthquakes?
(ID #195653) Posted on 2008/05/24 13:05
Student
so what if there's eroge? that's for people to choose 4 themself whether they want / didn't want to look into eroge, it's called FREEDOM!! Mental issue? isn't there's always rating for this game?? why anybody play it if they are underage? beside eroge game, there's still porn site, porn magz, how are they gonna do to them? banned it? riddiculous!
(ID #195657) Posted on 2008/05/24 13:08
Taking a look at the japanese crime rate, and that it seems to be the only country producing larger amounts of painted pornography, the only logical conclusion seems to be that those watching it are less likely to commit crimes... it might reduce birthrate though... Wait, does anyone have reliable data on the spanish crime rate to compare it to the rest of europe?
(ID #195671) Posted on 2008/05/24 13:29
I knew people who proposed the ban were women and didn't know they look like that... Maybe they are jealous of the beauty of 2D girls and are on their crusade to ban the eroge, shame on them @_@
(ID #195672) Posted on 2008/05/24 13:31
Part human, part student, 100% loser
LOL I bet they were jealous...
(ID #195726) Posted on 2008/05/24 14:20
Wish I can get this kind of stuff here...
(ID #195685) Posted on 2008/05/24 13:41
Lost in time
i think that all this is just to pass some time and have some fun in parliament. maybe they're out of ideas to debate on other topics with higher priorities.
(ID #195695) Posted on 2008/05/24 13:52
always blaming games for crimes and violence and ones actions >.> ...typical of some politicians >.>
(ID #195701) Posted on 2008/05/24 13:56
Student Engineer
It leads to neither. This politician is comparable to Hillary Clinton- she wants full restrictions on most video games and a ban on a lot of them rated M (mature). I don't like eroge and I don't play it, but I don't hark on buddies if they enjoy it. I think it's cool people can do their own thing- but I just don't bother with it.
(ID #195705) Posted on 2008/05/24 13:59
I got my copy last week and yeah the towel's material feels weird. it will definitely be destroyed if you use it.
(ID #195721) Posted on 2008/05/24 14:12
I believe it reduces crime, because it allows people to enjoy their fantasies that they are unable to otherwise do in real life, i.e. rape a girl... like in a lot of hentai. It should keep the crime down especially the sexual ones. The sexual perverts that do it to little girls i doubt would actually play these games or watch these animes before commiting the crime, those perverts instead have probably lost their sense of rationality .
(ID #195730) Posted on 2008/05/24 14:23
curse limited edition figures! if only i'd known T_T orz
(ID #195733) Posted on 2008/05/24 14:27
poor old lady needs a thrill. o well, names must be made and lines must be drawn. i wonder what she expects all those artists to do if she got her way. i thought imports made alot of money? on a different note, THAT'S A MICRO-FIBER TOWEL! that thing is huge! i love the way that fabric looks, you should throw it in the dryer set to med with a damp t-shirt. get those wrinkles out. microfiber! thats awesome!
(ID #195746) Posted on 2008/05/24 15:02
I am extremely against censureship of any kind. This being dirty words, dirty pictures/movies, and relevant to this topic, dirty game, etc. I don't believe that the presentation of ideas themselves are responsible for negative acts by individuals. Negative acts (such as rape, theft, murder, etc.), are the results of poor education. Not necessarily the SCHOOL version of education, but LIFE education. Starting with parents, then with friends and co-workers, etc. PEOPLE are responsible for negative acts. If the people with whom you interact with are not good, chances are the mindset inside you may cease to see "right vs. wrong" as clear cut or even important...
Anyway, censureship tries to hide/ignore issues without actually addressing them. Such things lead to overcompensation ("oh my gawd, her nipple showed for a second, the WHORE!", etc.), ignorance, and worse. So sign me up for any protest of an act of censureship. At the same time, sign me up for promoting education.
"Knowledge is the right kind of power"
(ID #195748) Posted on 2008/05/24 15:04
NEET
Oh danny, the way you phrase "The person who put forward this proposal looks like this." is so sarcastic. >;(
(ID #195765) Posted on 2008/05/24 15:52
Director/代表取締役
Agree and corrected.
(ID #195767) Posted on 2008/05/24 15:57
There really are some idiots in the world the only reason why people blame things like eroge games and violent games like GTA on the worlds problems is because they want to find something to blame for what happens around them, even though i would bet a million pounds if i had it :D that the exact same crimes would still happen even if they banned all forms of media. Also it generally seems to be the older generation that blames societys woes on games which go's to show they don't really understand what there talking about and have probably never seen and eroge or a violent game only what people have told them and when this current generation has grown up who do understand this form of media wont blame whats going on around them on games but will find what ever the new thing is that they dont understand to pass the blame onto, maybe virtual reality machines are something haha
(ID #195773) Posted on 2008/05/24 16:20
i was gonna buy this issue, but i don't know much about the game so i didn't but it. i regret it now!!!
(ID #195775) Posted on 2008/05/24 16:21
Animation Student
Bought this one along with other 3 Dengeki G's Festival. I want to hang out the Erika towel, but I'm afraid of its getting dirty, because it seems very easy to get dirty because of the material, and I don't want to wash it... >_< Maybe I will consider it again...( '~')
(ID #195776) Posted on 2008/05/24 16:22
As many people have already suggested here, I think eroge, video games etc. are being used as a scapegoat. They're detracting from the deeper and more difficult problems of modern society; many many issues which compound to create these nut-jobs and other social problems. Part of the problem is that police simply don't have enough jurisdiction to take down organized crime rings - they may know exactly what these people are up to but simply don't posses the rights to wire-tap these buggers or whatever, no doubt there are crooks in the government acting as moles and slowing down the process...
(ID #195780) Posted on 2008/05/24 16:29
I would so buy that magazine next time I see it at Kino. That towel is so much better than getting a folded up poster with crease lines in it >,< As for crime rate... I think it would greatly reduce it as long as the person playing knows whats real and not...
(ID #195787) Posted on 2008/05/24 16:51
Politicians again make a funny proposal. They do this just for the show and to people to say that they do some job. But I am against it. Bann the f***ing thugs instead :D
(ID #195791) Posted on 2008/05/24 16:55
Working in a public service
I buy it too... just for the towel. ^^ And I was surprise to find a poster of the eroge "Koihime Musou". The anime version come in july.
(ID #195792) Posted on 2008/05/24 16:55
Aimless Traveler
I've played Doom at age 9. If you had read about the Columbine High School massacre, anti-videogame infidels claimed the two shooters, Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold, had used Doom as a sort of 'training simulator' before they initiate the shooting rampage. Funny, that considering all the shit I've been through in the 90's, I never had the urge to start going on a senseless rampage killing everyone I hate. I moved on to play Resident Evil 3 at age 12 and continue on playing more M-rated games. Nothing happens. Played my first eroge at age 14. Never had the urge to commit lewd acts against women. Nothing happens. Listened to Eminem at age 13. Plenty of songs about shooting people and choking your own wife. Nope, don't have the urge to do it. I feel totally normal. Based on all of my experience above, I personally think television, videogames and/or music has no such powers at all to influence the person to commit violent acts. It's the mental state of the person that determines his or level of sanity, or when his or her self-control went haywire. How does one explain what influenced early serial killers like Jack the Ripper to commit murder? Videogames?
(ID #195806) Posted on 2008/05/24 17:27
Hm, i heard that the hubbub in the government was to try and ban all loli and underage stuff. That goes down well with me, but meh - each to their own! That towel is pretty good for a free gift - speshley in one of those phone-book sized mangas. I thought it was a dakimakura at first.
(ID #195838) Posted on 2008/05/24 18:14
in my point of view isnt eroge anime better than actual porn. atleast there are not real in anime. in real these girls need money or are forced that is just too sad.i hate prostitution
(ID #195851) Posted on 2008/05/24 19:04
Student and full-time otaku
Sure, looking at beautiful girls and caring for my dolphin makes me less of a human....sigh. Sometimes I have some reservations about too much lol-content and wonder if that might induce pedos to harrass little girls more, but as with all statements against the otaku-culture we've seen recently, this is again way over the top. Bet they are just jealous....
(ID #195852) Posted on 2008/05/24 19:05
Student and full-time otaku
I meant loli-content
(ID #195854) Posted on 2008/05/24 19:06
ひきこもり/Hikikomori. Suits my current state more than a 大学生/University Student. ^^
I understand the proposal a bit seeing that there are some eroges in which the players' main mission is basically to rape all the heroines (Virgin Roster is the one that I can remember but there are some others that I cant remember). But there is also healthy (literally) eroge like Private Nurse. The story is that the main hero often falls ill for some reason and the heroines want to cure the main hero. As the heroines try to heal the main hero, lots of heart-warming events happen.. It's a really good eroge.
(ID #195856) Posted on 2008/05/24 19:12
that sounds all so familiar. when the legislation in switzerland passed new laws against child abuse, they decided child porn could be anything. they make no difference in it being 3d or 2d, even though, at least as far as japanese 2d porn is concerned, it's almost guaranteed there's no child abuse involved. while i strongly support the abolishment of abuse, putting 2d fans totally at the mercy of a judge's discretion (it's his decision what would be considered as child porn at what not) leaves a very, very bad aftertaste. trying to fight such an imprecise law is also a run against windmills, considering the delicacy of the topic. it could even put you into trouble. fortunately, pornography in general is accepted (or liked) by most people here, so i don't fear a political threat there. and i bet it's not so different in japan. 2d porn has a much wider audience there, too.
(ID #195864) Posted on 2008/05/24 19:24
Ant Farmer, 1-Mth Old Otaku
Well, I could be wrong, but some how I have the feeling that eroge help reduce possible sex crimes instead of the other way around. To "enjoy" or "appreciate" eroge or any other adult stuff help many to "release" their pent-up desires or even frustrations ... and so "balances" off things. Just like any other hobby, interest or past-time ... not everyone's cup of tea or everyone can enjoy or agree ... but what matters is that it can help the person doing it maintain some sort of equilibrium in his life. Satisfaction of some sort of needs mentally, emotionally or even spiritually :) I also enjoy eroge ... but I appreciate BEAUTY even more. I get tremendous satisfaction from enjoying the beauty of my figurines ... much more satisfaction than any eroge or adult stuff. Looking and appreciating the beauty of a pretty woman, makes me very happy :) btw, danny, nice towel. if i have one ... i would not use it too. heck, i will even wrap it up in plastic to make sure it stays "clean" ;)
(ID #195868) Posted on 2008/05/24 19:36
A female version of Jack Thompson? Stupid woman. Anyway, there is no way that games or anime will make you a killer, it's stupid. I rather see games like a place where you can relieve your feelings of hate/anger on a non-human. That is a nice towel by the way, I love Erika.
(ID #195878) Posted on 2008/05/24 20:12
Petitions like those you say, Danny,