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English/英語  Thu 01/24 08:39 JST
人が生きていれば、いつか病と出会います。その病は時たま、すぐなおるカゼであったり、その病と残りの人生のすべて一緒につきあったり、生まれつきの病の人もいます。英語からの直訳ですぐ分かりますね^^;

今日は僕たちがかかっている病と、他のヲタにその病についてのアドバイスがあるのかをディスカッションしようと思っています。

僕は生まれつきで喘息の身です。小さい頃はちょっと走っただけで、ゼーゼーしたり、症状は結構悪かった。現在は特に症状は現れないです。念のため吸入の薬ベントリンをいつも持っています。

最近は椎間板ヘルニアと診断されました。椎間板が炸裂して、椎間板の中身が足に伸びる神経に当たって、常に痛いですToT。椎間板ヘルニアは、激しいスポーツや背中に強いショックを与えることで炸裂する場合もあるし、時とともに水分がなくなりぱさぱさになって行く。

写真に出ているのは僕のMRIの結果です。先生は、多くの先生と変わらなく、聞かれない限り、何も教えてもらわない。例えば、この症状をどうやって改善すると聞いてから「運動やストレッチです」と。当たり前のことで一般的に知られている間も知れないが、どのようなストレッチなのかは教えてくれない。「どのようなストレッチをすればいいですか」と聞いてから「腹筋です」。。。

明日はその病院に行って、MRIのコピーを取って、他の病院で見てもらうことにした。
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technonewt in Talent, Oregon, United States
College Student
登録日: 2007/11/02 11:41
Im a T2 Parapeligic, meaning I have a partially severed spinal cord at the T2 vertebrae. Happened during a murder attempt when I was around 4ish. Life has had its ups and downs but more ups than downs. Im natually an cheerful and find I dont have too many things that bother me that I cant do. Being a nerd type person I spend all my time on a computer so hey, im used to sitting for long hours, lol. I dont get sick much either except for the occasional bronchitis each winter. Did have to go through quite a bit of surgery on my back when I was younger which sucked greatly.
(ID #70496) Posted on 2008/01/24 08:23
YoShI in Calgary, Canada
Stealthy Ninja, Life support.
登録日: 2008/01/15 12:41
Wow that sucks Danny!
I know what ya mean though.

FYI i'm actually an EMT
and i've heard/seen many cases like this.
In fact, i'm at risk of this kind of injury all the time with heavy lifting of patients or other stuff.

Only think i can really do now is precautionary, like lift with my legs keeping back straight.

what i can recommend though, is doing Tai Chi, Which i'm totally serious. 
i've been doing chinese wushu all my life, and tai chi also incorporates into it. i've only started tai chi for a couple years now, but i can tell you when u do tai chi, it'll help increase blood flow, which will help in the healing process. for example when u walk, walk with your heal touching the floor first. but yeah thats all i can really suggest for now, 

if ya got any more questions let me know!
(ID #70497) Posted on 2008/01/24 08:25
technonewt in Talent, Oregon, United States
College Student
登録日: 2007/11/02 11:41
I'm a T2 parapeligic meaning I have a partially severed spinal cord at the T2 vertebrae. Caused by a gun shot wound I recieved when I was 4. Life has its ups and downs, more ups than downs. Not too many things I can't do that I would like to do except traveling is difficult, which puts a dampener on my dream of going to Japan or any country overseas. Being a nerd type person I spend most of my time around a computer so hey!, i'm used to sitting for long hours, lol. Don't get sick much either except for the occasional bronchitis each winter. 
(ID #70498) Posted on 2008/01/24 08:30
nefesco in Penang, Malaysia
Sunshine Empire's merchant
登録日: 2007/12/10 03:56
~~ Get well soon DANNY!!! ~~

P/S: Sori i dont have knowledge regardin Herniated disc dats useful to u, but i realli do hope u'll gt well again! Take care ^^
(ID #70499) Posted on 2008/01/24 08:32
technonewt in Talent, Oregon, United States
College Student
登録日: 2007/11/02 11:41
sorry for the double post, had a browser crash on me. Danny can go ahead and delete the second one.
(ID #70500) Posted on 2008/01/24 08:34
technonewt in Talent, Oregon, United States
College Student
登録日: 2007/11/02 11:41
Deeply sorry for the triple post, dont know what happened, go ahead and delete the second and third one.
(ID #70501) Posted on 2008/01/24 08:37
FatBastard in over his head
Meat Puppet
登録日: 2007/11/04 18:16
Danny, dude take care of yourself. Your health should one of the most important things to you. Sorry to hear about your back. I'm amazed your still dancing around with a herniated disc. Take a easy there.

Push ups? What kinda advice is that? Sheesh. What I would recommend for you Danny is some low impact exercises with a inflatable exercise ball. Some face forward abdominal lifts and twists, side lifts, and balance exercises will help strengthen your back. I don't know the severity of your pain, so you can adjust to what you are capable of. It will help you balance your core and posture. You can even sit on it while working to keep your back straight and balance your weight. Take care bud.
(ID #70502) Posted on 2008/01/24 08:39
Benjamin Takeyo in Lieu de la batille decisive
ひきこもり/Hikikomori. Suits my current state more than a 大学生/University Student. ^^
登録日: 2007/12/04 23:16
My family has had a history of cancer.

My father, my uncle and my baby-nephew had been diagnosed with cancer one after another (after my father got cured, my uncle got cancer and then after he got cured, my baby-nephew got cancer. They were all healed fortunately, although my baby-nephew lost one of her kidneys...)

Judging from the unusually frequent cancer occurrence in my family, there seems to be a flaw in genetic markups of my family that causes cancer to occur, so I also have my chance of contracting cancer.. I do hope that I'm mistaken ^^

Well, about your illness, I'm sure someone like you will be strong enough to endure this trial, Danny, and it seems you do! Seeing that you still can get some goodies! ^^
(ID #70503) Posted on 2008/01/24 08:57
leefe in a tincan.
Lazyass human
登録日: 2007/08/15 20:25
Yeah I'd have huge jolts of pain in my arms/chest here and there sometimes... The doctor prescribed some medicine for me, which I think it's probably useless. 
Anyway I don't think pushups help strengthening the back... ~_~
(ID #70504) Posted on 2008/01/24 09:03
necrophadian in a van down by the river
Stigmata Martyr
登録日: 2007/04/22 12:13
You'll be alright Danny, all it takes is will and a positive attitude. You gotta stay in shape for all those Stormtrooper appearances yet to come.

Luckily I've yet to have a major sickness in my life. The only time I have ever been in a hospital was for stitches when I cut my finger making a sandwich.

I quit smoking 4 months ago, drinking 2 years ago and I haven't had a blunt in 5 years. My only real guilty pleasure is red meat, can't lay off the stuff. There was a time when I'd eat steak almost daily and I would go outta my way for a t-bone even at 2 in the morning. My family has a history of hypertension though so I know I'll eventually have to give my carnivorous tendencies soon. 
(ID #70505) Posted on 2008/01/24 09:09
notfair in Malaysia
Student, ACG Fans
登録日: 2007/08/14 16:34
Take care yourself Danny, hope you can recovery fast.

thx for share this to us :).
(ID #70506) Posted on 2008/01/24 09:13
lostandfound in a UFO... catcher...
Part human, part student, 100% loser
登録日: 2007/10/22 02:10
Where's the Used to have an illness for the poll LOL, used to have asthma... And Myopia which most Singaporean kids nowadays have...
Hey Danny, hope your condition gets better! The Dynesys implants looks really... erm... scary, like from some mad scientist movie or something... 
Japanese doctors sure are helpful... As helpful as a cup full of fish bag of soldiers...
(ID #70507) Posted on 2008/01/24 09:19
Shin in Port Swettenham
Aspiring Trap
登録日: 2007/10/20 23:04
Take care, Danny, and get well soon.
(ID #70508) Posted on 2008/01/24 09:22
sassy in Sheffield, UK
Unemployed
登録日: 2008/01/19 04:13
Take good care of yourself Danny, I'm sure you will get through it :)

Very interesting post, doesen't seem like the doctor you talked to wanted to help much?
(ID #70509) Posted on 2008/01/24 09:22
Zplus in N. Ireland
Seat warmer
登録日: 2006/12/25 01:53
Hey danny, sorry to hear that, but its a common illness to people who sit around alot... us nerds... heh.
Anyways, as a personal fitness instructor, I can recommend some exercises for you. Well, push ups do exercise the lower back slightly, since you have to keep your body straight the whole time. But by the time you feel your lower back worked you have already got a chest and arm the size of rambo. So the simplest/lightest work out for the lower back is the plank position: first you lie flat on your stomach, then push yourself off the floor with your elbow directly below your shoulder, make sure you body is straight. You should now in a position where you support yourself on your toes and your elbows. Stay in this position until you cant keep your body straight any longer, then rest for a couple of minutes and repeat. This exercise works the core muscles of the body.
(ID #70511) Posted on 2008/01/24 09:27
Zplus in N. Ireland
Seat warmer
登録日: 2006/12/25 01:53
Here's more.
The other exercise which is just as light involves a gym ball. First you knee on the floor with the gym ball infront of your body. Lay on the gym ball and roll forward so that the gym ball is directly below your stomach. Now, place your hands on the floor like you would when doing push-ups, lift both legs off the floor until its inline with your body, keeping both legs straight, hold this position for a while, rest and repeat for a few times. This exercise is more directed to the lower back muscles.
I would recommend a gym ball size of 65cm, its the size for people around the height of 5'7.
Send me an email if you want to talk about the exercises more danny.
(ID #70512) Posted on 2008/01/24 09:37
Zeroblade in Manila, Philippines
Student
登録日: 2007/04/10 21:47
Wow, that really sucks :(
I used to have asthma as a kid too, but I didn't really have any more attacks after a serious one many, many years ago when I had to be hospitalized for a week because I couldn't breathe ^^;
(ID #70513) Posted on 2008/01/24 09:37
Akiba-Kid in California, USA
Online Shop
登録日: 2008/01/17 11:35
Danny, hopefully you find a right method to cure your illness and so there won't be anymore pain.  

I should take a lesson from this and try to take care of my body before anything bad happens.  I've been lazy as of late and I can feel my body is effected by that...
(ID #70514) Posted on 2008/01/24 09:42
asrai in Philippines
Physical Therapy student
登録日: 2007/11/18 22:25
hey danny, I suggest you go to a Physical Therapist for rehabilitation.."muscle strengthening" is just one part of treating something as serious as this..if you do it wrong..we're talking about possible paraplegia..

I'm only a PT intern so I can't tell you much..better let the professionals do the assessment for you.

I hope everything works out for you..
(ID #70515) Posted on 2008/01/24 09:45
pireze in Australia
Online editor
登録日: 2007/12/29 21:57
Danny, I feel for you, and from your post and stuff I heard about before, it seems that the Japanese medical system isn't all that "user friendly". Most country's doctors and nurses are more forthcoming in terms of information and recommendations, but the Japanese system seems to be much more "hands off".
(ID #70517) Posted on 2008/01/24 09:52
blauereiter in Tokyo, Japan
CG artist, Sunrise Emotion
登録日: 2007/07/07 22:02
Had asthma as a kid too, I still remember vividly the fresh smell of pure oxygen and that mask I have to put on in the hospital; those days even climbing a flight of stairs was a big challenge.

Hope your herniated disc condition improves soon. :]
(ID #70518) Posted on 2008/01/24 09:53
e-jump in Malaysia
Test Engineer
登録日: 2007/12/22 21:34
Holy shiat.
Bone rupture/damage is serious business :o
I was a brongkitis (sp?) patient when i was a kid. But early detection and treatment saves me from athma. 
(ID #70520) Posted on 2008/01/24 09:58
sbebiwan in France, Paris
Otaku Webmaster
登録日: 2006/12/28 21:51
Take care Danny !
(ID #70522) Posted on 2008/01/24 10:21
Starboykb in Brunei
IT TechGuy
登録日: 2007/05/16 00:05
You should take good care on your health since you already reach 30+. At these kind of age, anything might come up with surprise. So take more exercise and better choice of foods. ^^
(ID #70523) Posted on 2008/01/24 10:30
DrGUID in London
Web Developer (i.e. Otaku)
登録日: 2007/11/14 20:13
Hi Danny,

Sorry to hear of your back pain.

There could be a psychological element to your problems. Try reading Dr Sarno's books (find "The Mind/Body Prescription" and "Healing Back Pain" on Amazon), he has cured thousands of people of backpain and other long term illnesses.

I had chronic RSI from using a computer way too much. I read his books. Now I don't have it anymore - a $10 book saved my career!

(ID #70524) Posted on 2008/01/24 10:47
pixelkitty in Melbourne, Australia (for the moment)
Toy Hunter
登録日: 2007/11/01 13:48
My Dad lived with this injury for many years, had many operations and even some steel rods inserted, the disc removed and replaced with a silicon prosthetic and a whole bunch of traction (the old school method which just makes it worse!).

I hope you find a physical therapist who can assist you.

As for me, yep - I have a couple of niggling illnesses - one of which I have to take meds for every day for the rest of my life - but I'm not in pain, so it's all good!
(ID #70525) Posted on 2008/01/24 10:57
CrazyAnimeTuga in Portugal
Student
登録日: 2007/01/03 02:12
Don't lay down Danny, do exercise to reinforce your back with muscles, it's the best way for these types of back problems, my father has the same thing but with two discs instead of one due to an accident. If you lay down it'll only be worse and more pain you'll feel later on. Believe me cause I've watching my father do this for the past ten years. So make exercise
(ID #70526) Posted on 2008/01/24 10:59
Gorm in London
Student
登録日: 2007/11/06 10:16
hey my mum just had this recently, they also found out one of her disks was cracked or something and she was off work for about 2 months 
(ID #70528) Posted on 2008/01/24 11:01
Gundam Otaku in Tropical Singapore
Student
登録日: 2006/12/30 22:16
Hey Danny, sorry to hear that. I would suggest you avoid getting into strenuous work or exercises. I wouldn't want to see the world's coolest stormtrooper getting haunted by illness. Hope you get well soon. 

Take good care of yourself man!
(ID #70530) Posted on 2008/01/24 11:13
Last{[0]}Raven in ☆DANNYCHOO Site ☆
Raven, AMV & MAD maker, Otaku
登録日: 2008/01/02 12:55
ouch.... disks are really THE most annoying thing of all humanity. you should get some rest. hope you feel ok soon my friend
(ID #70531) Posted on 2008/01/24 11:17
Dachiko in Russia, Izhevsk
Go player and teacher
登録日: 2007/12/20 02:04
Bicycling is really helpfull against such a disaster. My english is realy bad, so cant tell much about this, sorry for this. You should try to dig more about bicycling, its a very efficient way to overcome your illnes.
(ID #70533) Posted on 2008/01/24 11:22
JuicyBox in Bordeaux, France
Doctor
登録日: 2007/05/18 16:53
Being a physician myself, i must advice that most of time backpains do not involve damages on intervertebral discs, and MRI are only justifed (they do have a huge cost) when there's more symptoms than just the pain in the back (like the pain going to the legs, lost of motricity or certain leg parts, or a pain that would not receed under well taken painkillers). Most of time X-rays themselves are not really usefull (if we really need to see something, we should go straight to MRI or TDM).

As of the treatment, just remember that each patient is a case in itself, and something that worked well for a friend would not necessarily either suit you, or improve your condition. Surgery is imo a last resort, or an emergency resort, but should be use carefully, as somehow young people who have been treated might not be improved, but even worsened after the surgery, or the initial lesion might concern one of the upper or lower intervertebral discs (if you stuck the problematic disc, the others disc will have to absorb the damages in its place...).

Backpain is a very common illness, and all treatments are not that satisfactory... 
(ID #70535) Posted on 2008/01/24 11:26
hendrik in jakarta,indonesia
student
登録日: 2007/06/01 04:39
anybody would like to translate herniate disc to indonesia/melayu? cause i'm pretty confuse now @_@ , thanks

good luck if u going to get a surgery, danny

never living with an illness, i only had a doctor to pluck my feet thumb nail cause it got cranked by car bumper ^^;
 nearly shortened my finger when i was 5 Y old,
 and some scar in my finger due to cutting gundam's ^^
(ID #70536) Posted on 2008/01/24 11:36
double in Singapore
Student
登録日: 2007/04/24 11:15
Hey Danny, I hope your condition improves. And don't push yourself too hard =)
(ID #70537) Posted on 2008/01/24 11:36
pp in Singapore
Army
登録日: 2007/07/10 20:22
personally i would go for physiotherapy  
or back muscles strengthening excerise. Is a lot cheaper but time consuming. But the benefits are good in the long run.
 
going for operation would probably be my last resort. 

Always busy with work ain't a good reason to keep yourself healthy ^^
(ID #70538) Posted on 2008/01/24 11:49
Ben in Utah, United States
CEO... of the world
登録日: 2007/03/29 08:00
According to Wiki...

"The majority of herniated discs will heal themselves in about six weeks and do not require surgery. One study found that "After 12 weeks, 73% of patients showed reasonable to major improvement without surgery."

However, you can't heal if you don't stay off your back, Danny.  Set aside some time.  You really do need some rest for this. Best wishes to feel better, Danny.  T_T
(ID #70539) Posted on 2008/01/24 11:55
pp in Singapore
Army
登録日: 2007/07/10 20:22
oh just to add on, i too had asthma as a kid and i also had the chance to use some pump machine too. It was a nasty feeling to not breathe properly and not play sports well/

After that incident, my mum decided that i should take up swimming to combat asthma, which i did and not only my condition improved. Now i dont have any more asthma and running is no longer a issue for me. 

Staying healthy and excerise regularly has alot of health benefits. I use to take in coffe or energy drink to keep myself awake and put on alot of weight, now i've traded that for jogs and run. Is way more effective and instead of feeling slugish from the run, you feel more alive ^^  

is not about whether you have illness to live with. Rather is about how you deal with it and making sure illness isn't burdening your life. Whether or not you want to make changes in your life to improve your health is entirely up to you. The path to a healthy body is tough but once that phrase is over, you'll enjoying its benefits for very very long. 
(ID #70540) Posted on 2008/01/24 11:58
Otaku-WannaBE in Heaven
Student
登録日: 2008/01/17 18:19
may the force be with you. get well.
(ID #70541) Posted on 2008/01/24 11:59
kakit in Toronto, Canada
Student
登録日: 2007/04/24 07:45
I've got mild case of asthma, but got a puffer anyway. Allergies to fur, so dogs and cats aren't my friends lol Also slightly colour deficient, hereditary from my mother. So when if you gave me one of those circles with plenty of dots, its likely I won't be able to see the number or symbol.
(ID #70542) Posted on 2008/01/24 12:15
Shinn911 in Malaysia
Mecha Otaku
登録日: 2008/01/23 21:12
i have a the same problem like u. had a slipped disc about 3 years ago when i was 19 due to a rock climbing accident. fell 10 metres down. still recovering. exercising and some physio theraphy. 

would suggest you get a gym ball to use. i do get the weakness in legs and occasional back pains. almost died as my legs gave way while crossing the road last year. 

use hot packs on your back for 15 mins 2-3 times a day it works. occasional pain killers if you cant bear the pain. if you can go swimming go swimming but dont over exert your back. 

my slipped disc is back in place but the nerves are not aligned properly.
hope u get well soon man
(ID #70543) Posted on 2008/01/24 12:23
Henry in Makati, Philippines
anime/cosplay events organizer
登録日: 2006/12/25 19:17
get well and take care of yourself Danny ^^
(ID #70544) Posted on 2008/01/24 12:30
D_Blade in Montreal
Non-profit org. volunteering work addict
登録日: 2006/12/31 22:48
Danny, if you never told us that, we would never know. I always would have believed you'd be the type to be unaffected by such physical affections.
 
The only problem I live with is myopia... Been an integral part of my life since I was born.
But I won't even call it a real disability, since I lead a rather normal life (Say, what's "normal" anyway?). Nothing major here in summary.

However, many members of my family are now facing cancer, for many reasons. My Great aunt is gone because of it (Died the 1st of this month... I miss her dearly) and my aunt is currently fighting against it, among others.

Why do I say that all of a sudden? Well, I believe that certain disabilities and illnesses can't be prevented or avoided, but many can... Healthy life habits, exercising, etc. can easily be forgotten but can be determinant later in life. 
Don't waste your life, you only got one. And if you fight for it everyday, make efforts to improve or maintain a healthy lifestyle, that is the right way to do things.
(ID #70545) Posted on 2008/01/24 12:33
ShinnStargazer in MALAYSIA
登録日: 2007/08/22 14:05
Hope for you to get well soon!
(ID #70546) Posted on 2008/01/24 12:33
Student
登録日: 2007/10/06 21:21
I've had asthma since I was young, but the air around here isn't that bad so I haven't had much trouble with it for a few months now. 

I'm hoping that you get better. Get better, Danny. 
(ID #70547) Posted on 2008/01/24 12:42
Final Fantasy Freak Ein in London, Japan , Malaysia, Taiwan
Game Designer
登録日: 2007/10/28 16:52
Wish I could be more useful, not just a Red Cross member that only knows First Aid...

Anyway, take care!

(oOo)/"Long live Danny"(oOo)/
Demacrez in Evansville, Indiana, US
Link Cosplayer, Video Gamer, Amatuer Programmer, and Artist
登録日: 2006/12/25 13:31
That sucks Danny.  I hope you get well soon.  And you shouldn't push yourself like that, you can damage your body even more!

So go lie down and play some Advance Wars. XP
(ID #70549) Posted on 2008/01/24 12:45
gordon in 新加坡 Singapore
宅男 Otaku/ 工程师 Engineer
登録日: 2007/06/11 14:57
take care danny. get well soon. we are behind you always. ^^,
(ID #70550) Posted on 2008/01/24 12:49
Alafista OTAKU in Singapore
Singapore Customs
登録日: 2006/12/25 11:34
I also had mild slip disc during my national service in the army which I kinda recovered with 3 months of physiotherapy.

Basically the doctor recommended me to do more swimming and some basic back exercise, and of course I also went for the therapy every 1 or 2 weeks. 

(ID #70551) Posted on 2008/01/24 12:54
D_Blade in Montreal
Non-profit org. volunteering work addict
登録日: 2006/12/31 22:48
By the way, be strong Danny and recover fast.
We'll look forward to your next shenanigans.
(ID #70552) Posted on 2008/01/24 12:58
ElShaz in Puerto Rico
Self Employed // Graphic Artist // Clothing
登録日: 2008/01/22 00:03
Damn, hope you are well. We share a similar back problem, mine is with the ciatic nerve. Even though doctors haven't found the exact reason in my case, I too get a very accute pain in my lower back, wich extends to my legs. We thought it was a disc problem too, but it seems it's not the case.

We do have to live with illnesses, I guess for us it's part of our daily lives, and we just have to keep pressing on.

Hope you are well, and take care of that back.
(ID #70553) Posted on 2008/01/24 12:58
Cosmo in Chicago, Illinois USA
Retail Manager
登録日: 2007/01/11 06:54
Sorry to hear about your illness Danny, I hope everything works out for the best and you don't have to go through to much in the way of surgery!
 I can relate to this illness article as I have been living with AIDS for the last 17 years. I was diagnosed after receiving a blood transfusion after a bad car crash back in '91. I immediately thought it was a death sentence, but thanks to modern science, I've been kept alive and healthy. If you look at me you would never know I was sick at all. What is hard is the day to day living. The constant, I'll say "fear", though thats not the feeling, of getting close to anyone because you don't want to infect them. Sure they talk about "safe sex" but nothing is 100%. I've even had people who say they can handle it, but there is always that doubt. I have my close friends, family and dog. I'm not lonely. This is just a cross you bear for the rest of your life.
(ID #70555) Posted o