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paiki in Brazil
Programmer
登録日: 2007/10/08 03:45
Agreed! Well, I'm not that fan of first Gundam, but well, It's a nice Ranking! Now I need see Gundam Wing The Endless Waltz, just to see why it's the best Mobit
(ID #63862) Posted on 2007/11/17 12:30
GundamJehutyKai in Foundation II Stellvia
IT Client Support
登録日: 2007/09/12 21:21
well, the #1 ranking is no surprise. The popularity of the RX-78 is why bandai are able to churn out the 50th version of the same design year in, year out.

But I would have placed the Gouf and Dom higher!!
(ID #63863) Posted on 2007/11/17 12:36
i'm mr. danger in Florida
student and i sell cellphones at Alltel wireless
登録日: 2007/08/17 09:33
i have seen EVERY GUNDAM SERIES. to me the best one is the MS 08th team, the worst is inbetween turn A AND 00.
(ID #63864) Posted on 2007/11/17 12:37
kaito kun in Hong Kong
student
登録日: 2007/06/11 16:19
well i kinda agree, but i like nearly all suits lol one of my personal fav is the mark II !
(ID #63865) Posted on 2007/11/17 12:37
lowlife187 in Atlanta, Georgia USA
Contraband Distrabution Specialist
登録日: 2007/09/29 04:18
I will probably get shot for this. 

My favorite Gundam DESIGN is the Wing Custom Gundam from Endless waltz.  Yes the OAV sucked much a$$, but the design of the mech was spectacular! 
(ID #63866) Posted on 2007/11/17 12:40
GundamJehutyKai in Foundation II Stellvia
IT Client Support
登録日: 2007/09/12 21:21
@mr danger: You would call Turn A or 00 the worst gundam show ever? Even worse than wing, ZZ or even seed destiny??

o_O interesting... 

Personally, I'd like to see a japanese poll on the most popular gundam design only. I have a soft spot for the V2 personally.
(ID #63867) Posted on 2007/11/17 12:49
BSkin in Toronto
Slacker
登録日: 2007/05/16 10:26
Boooo I can't believe my beloved Hygog isn't on there.
(ID #63868) Posted on 2007/11/17 12:55
Gundam Otaku in Tropical Singapore
Student
登録日: 2006/12/30 22:04
As for mono eye, I personally prefer the Z'Gok and the Zaku from the list. Gundam wise, Nu Gundam and EX-S are my favourite.
(ID #63870) Posted on 2007/11/17 13:05
gordon in 新加坡 Singapore
宅男 Otaku/ 工程师 Engineer
登録日: 2007/06/11 14:45
danny, it's about time you start finishing your Wing Gundam Zero. ('~')
(ID #63871) Posted on 2007/11/17 13:12
ビッグ ボス in Hampton, Virginia, USA
Web Developer
登録日: 2007/11/16 22:21
If you add up all of Char's different suits there, it might beat out the RX-78-2! 

Cool list though. My favorite from the original series is Char's Gelgoog. All time favorite Gundam is Char's MSN-04 Sazabi from Char's Counterattack. 
(ID #63872) Posted on 2007/11/17 13:24
bluki in Outer Heaven
Monster
登録日: 2007/08/16 18:52
my personal all time awesome gundam award goes to Zeta gundam... 
(ID #63873) Posted on 2007/11/17 13:31
CyberSynaptic in Northern California
Nursing Student
登録日: 2006/12/25 18:58
The results are pretty much what I would expect from the Japanese Gundam fans.  My personal favorite MS from the first Gundam series would be the Gouf (Ramba Ral rocks!!!).

As for my all-time favorite mobile suits, here's my top 5:

1. ZGMF-X10A Freedom Gundam
2. RX-93 Nu Gundam
3. ZGMF-X20A Strike Freedom
4. OZ-00MS2 Tallgeese II
5. XXXG-01H Gundam Heavyarms Kai [Okawara Version]
(ID #63874) Posted on 2007/11/17 13:47
CyberSynaptic in Northern California
Nursing Student
登録日: 2006/12/25 18:58
BTW, just so people don't think "Cyber's only seen SEED and Wing *snicker*", I have seen every Gundam series to date, and have read about a third of all Gundam manga/novels (mostly post-Char's Counterattack and Astray stuff).
(ID #63875) Posted on 2007/11/17 13:52
Mac in Podunk, USA
IT monkey/consultant
登録日: 2006/12/29 03:02
As much as I love the original Gundam, it's clear this is just a nostalgia-fest.  

Much as I love the RX-78, my favorite Gundam would be Wing Zero...  the original version.  I wasn't a fan of the Endless Waltz re-designs.  

The Tallgeese and Deathscythe have a special place in my heart, too.  

Come to think of it, all my favorite designs were from Wing.   
(ID #63876) Posted on 2007/11/17 14:15
hayashi in malaysia
student
登録日: 2007/01/22 19:58
got 1 Q .. 
where can i get to watch
back all the 1st season of GUNDAMS ?
i wanna know the story of 
RX78-2 and ZAKUII !!
(ID #63877) Posted on 2007/11/17 14:25
atr360 in my house...
web surfer (no pay)
登録日: 2007/11/13 23:55
i havent seen much but i do have the rx-78 gundam model... personally its my favorite because it was the base for all gundam models... XD
(ID #63879) Posted on 2007/11/17 15:05
0079, Zeta and 08th MS team for me
(ID #63881) Posted on 2007/11/17 15:28
duh~, reply failed =__= .. for specific,my preferenceare Hyaku Shiki and Rx-78.. AU gundams seems fugly to me
(ID #63882) Posted on 2007/11/17 15:36
foxgear in Otaku Star, Malaysia
Otakurian Shen
登録日: 2006/12/30 09:38
Actually im quite like to watched the original gundam, but since is about 50ep, quite long though, if would want to re-watch again, will just be watch the movie version.
My all time favourite gundam series will be "The 08th MS Team"
(ID #63883) Posted on 2007/11/17 15:54
Darkvash in Brooklyn, Ny
Zeon Pilot
登録日: 2007/11/11 05:11
I kind of agree with this list, but I think Char's Zaku should have gotten second place, and the Guncannon and Dom should of placed a bit higher.  

My favorite mobile suit, personally, is probably the Zeta Gundam.
(ID #63884) Posted on 2007/11/17 15:55
CMWilly in Los Angeles, CA
Animation
登録日: 2007/04/19 10:47
yes! dom #7! go dom go!
(ID #63885) Posted on 2007/11/17 16:17
Passerby117
I find it funny how basically most of the MS' excluding Gundam from the top ten is piloted by Char...

Agguy got beaten out by a GM!? 

In terms of favorites, the RX-121-3 Hazel Custom from AoZ gets a lot of love. It's the story of a lowly GM becoming a Gundam! Don't see that everyday. (Except for that one time in Blue Destiny...)
(ID #63886) Posted on 2007/11/17 16:35
Astrana in Calgary, Canada
Student
登録日: 2007/08/15 11:08
I've been watching gundam for 8 years. I pretty much watched every series except Turn A. From all the anime and all the gunpla heres are my top five gundam.

1. RX-79[G] Ez-8 ( best gundam imo, I just love the storyline, character, animation the love story between the main characters...oh and the gunpla it self is amazing)

2. Shining-Gundam (influenced by all the SRW I've played lol)

3. MK-II (I build the MK-II V.2 and watch the Zeta Movie at the same time, maybe that's why.)

4. EX-s gundam ( I just loved the looks of this gunpla, I wish they put it into anime)

5. Between death gundam and strike freedom, I can't decide :P
(ID #63887) Posted on 2007/11/17 16:37
Proteus in Malaysia
Make others miserable
登録日: 2007/10/17 12:11
i agree with the top 3 but my Ex-s, Sazabi, Nu, MkII, and Zeta is not on the list? This is absurd, I demand a re-vote XD

On a side note Im glad none of the seed suit were in the ranking.
(ID #63888) Posted on 2007/11/17 16:38
Hatori in Florida,USA
Student
登録日: 2007/08/20 14:42
Most of the top ones don't make much sense to me cause I'm not a gundam freak but I do agree that Char's Zaku should have been higher.
Of the UC series I've only watched Zeta, and 8th MS but watching the original Gundam (dub only =( ) thanks to a friend who has the whole series.
My favorites are: 
Gundam MK II, Char's Zaku, Death scythe 
(ID #63889) Posted on 2007/11/17 16:48
Gav in Northumberland, UK
Tech support/ Paintball Marshall
登録日: 2006/12/26 05:26
Got the three Gundam movies on DVD recently and watched them all over a couple of days. I have to say, the animation does look a bit dated now but the story's excellent, even by today's standards! Very emotionally involving and charachter-central to a show where essentially the mechas are the stars. Very atmospheric too!
(ID #63890) Posted on 2007/11/17 16:49
Koshiko in Sydney
website designer
登録日: 2007/08/03 12:25
I like the XXXG-00W0 Wing Gundam Zero (had to wiki it ^^;;), my brother has a model of it, I think the custom one? It's got the wings and a stand, I like it, I think looks cool 
(ID #63902) Posted on 2007/11/17 18:30
Koshiko in Sydney
website designer
登録日: 2007/08/03 12:25
Ahh.. my comment got cut off o.o;
I had 'But as I've only watched Gundam Wing to SEED Destiny my vote wouldn't count as much u_u'.
Did it get cut off because I used an open angle bracket (if that's what it's called).
(ID #63903) Posted on 2007/11/17 18:34
DRAGUN in Arizona, USA
Design Consultant
登録日: 2007/08/23 04:32
A lot of people have said it, but the 08th MS Team was the best series I have seen. The realistic abilities of the Mobile suits and the necessity for ground and air support makes it seem different than the "invulnerable" gundam. It seems like in every series the Gundam is Bruce Lee, and all the bad guys are crappy ninjas.. with a limp. The 08th made the Gouf seem like an amazing MS, as well enlighten the obvious contempt for the GMs. Here is my order of favorites:

1. Red Frame Astray (I know its Seed.. but its the only one I like)

2. RX-78-3 .. This is how the original should have looked. 

3.Gouf. I dont think I need to explain this. 

4. Zaku I , a classic and much sleeker than the second version.

5. Pretty much anything from AoZ. These are some of the best mobile suit designs I have seen. Lots of detail and no bs.
(ID #63904) Posted on 2007/11/17 18:41
CyberSynaptic in Northern California
Nursing Student
登録日: 2006/12/25 18:58
LOL for those that are wondering why Nu, Wing Zero, Ex-S, etc. aren't on the list, it's because this is a list of the favorites from First Gundam, aka Mobile Suit Gundam, aka Gundam 0079, or how I like to call it, MSG.  Of course MS from Char's Counterattack, Wing, and/or Sentinel wouldn't be on there.
(ID #63905) Posted on 2007/11/17 18:46
wildarmsheero in Spaaaaace
Lowlife
登録日: 2006/12/25 14:05
Ball should be number 1.
(ID #63907) Posted on 2007/11/17 19:05
lightningsabre in Vancouver
Pseudo-Graphic Designer
登録日: 2007/08/30 18:15
How is the Core Fighter even on there? It's not even a mobile suit.

After watching so many more extreme variations of Gundam from Seed & Wing other newer series, the RX-78-2 looks so plain. So I had to get a more unique version of the original if I wanted to make a kit of it (Crystal Edition).

Too many Gundams throughout the years to make a favourite list for me. However, GP02A always have been one of the best looking one for me. Exia is looking pretty good too, I wonder how they're going to "upgrade" this in the show ala Wing/Seed.
(ID #63908) Posted on 2007/11/17 19:40
Full-time Student
登録日: 2007/11/15 10:02
I can see the RX-78-2 as #1 only because of the nostalgia surrounding it and the influence 0079 had. You have to respect it for that classic mobile suit design.

Personally, I liked Trowa's Heavy Arms and Heavy Arms Custom from Wing. 

Titty cannons and such.
XeroVlade in Philippines
Student, Part Time Programmer
登録日: 2007/10/12 23:44
The First Gundam Series.. Its not actually 50 episodes its only 43 for the original and 42 to the american broadcast. They also should have included the version of Char Custom RX-78-2.
(ID #63914) Posted on 2007/11/17 22:16
CrazyAnimeTuga in Portugal
Student
登録日: 2007/01/03 02:00
Where's Zeta and MK-II :( my top favorite gundams (still need to get MK-II master grade) I certainly don't agree with this list, most of the gundams are from the first series of 0079, so what about the rest?? There are some from Zeta but why only the really old ones? 
(ID #63915) Posted on 2007/11/17 23:02
qingy in 25th Macross Frontier Fleet
Valkyrie Pilot
登録日: 2007/10/06 04:57
all that matters is that RX-78-2 is #1, kind of disappointed that Wing Zero and Zeta aren't on there though
(ID #63916) Posted on 2007/11/17 23:03
TOKYOnight in Jakarta, ID
College Student - BiNus University
登録日: 2007/01/04 10:25
The 2nd - 4th post are Char's ?!? ^^ Don't know the different between the non-Char's and Char's MS though, they just drown the MS in a pool of red paint and then dry it with sun ray ^^ but actually for me Char is the greatest "masked" antagonist ;3
(ID #63917) Posted on 2007/11/17 23:33
CyberSynaptic in Northern California
Nursing Student
登録日: 2006/12/25 18:58
LMFAO guys, don't you read the post before responding?  The first thing Danny says is "32,263 people participated in a ranking of their most fave Mobile Suit from THE FIRST GUNDAM series...", so...dun dun dun...of course none of the other series' MS would be in the list.  If they did include all the series, I'm almost 100% sure Nu Gundam, Strike Freedom, Zeta, Hyaku Shiki, Wing Zero Custom, and maybe even God Gundam would be in the top 10.
(ID #63918) Posted on 2007/11/17 23:33
qingy in 25th Macross Frontier Fleet
Valkyrie Pilot
登録日: 2007/10/06 04:57
dang, i didn't read the post carefully. now taking that into account, i am very satisfied with the results, though  i personally think the DOM should've placed higher
(ID #63919) Posted on 2007/11/18 00:05
Friendly Hellraiser in still in the NE of USA
Hellrasier
登録日: 2007/08/30 11:13
Is the only difference between 4 and 18 color?
(ID #63920) Posted on 2007/11/18 00:13
Xeno Knight in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia
CSO - Customer Service Officer
登録日: 2007/05/07 20:24
I agree with the list naturally. The original Gandamu us still one of my fav  but top of my list got to be Gundam Double X. Freedom/Strike Freedom, the Twin Satellite Cannon is true definition of beam spam. Here are my fav list

- Gundam Double X
- Zeta Gundam
- Gundam F91
- Nu Gundam
- RX 78-2 Gundam
- Tallgeese III
- Epyon
- Zaku II Char Custom
- Zeong

Yes, I'm not a CE fan but I like the grunt units a lot. The Gundams...duh.
(ID #63927) Posted on 2007/11/18 01:09
Hangmen13 in Sabah, Malaysia
登録日: 2007/04/21 21:07
OMFG CHAR H4X! Of all the Mobile Suits, I love GMs the best. Gotta respect the gutsy nameless pilots fighting in mass-produced mobile suits. Too bad GMs are often forced to fight named characters (characters with roles), which makes such fine machines as nothing more but cannon fodders. If I have one wish, I'd want a massive engagement between GMs and Zakus. Yep, no significant or important characters involved, just unnamed pilots fighting equivalent foe. MS Igloo did come close though.
(ID #63929) Posted on 2007/11/18 02:13
radical anime fan in UNR-002 M House-Comp Powered.
Polytechnic Student, Freshly Entered.
登録日: 2007/01/25 21:08
Finally, Gundam newz!
i haven't watched the first series, but i have no complains about the RX-78 2 being up there. I prefer the grey-scheme RX-78 3 though. 

I don't have any favourites from that era of Gundam, all my favourites come from SEED series. It's a close  contest between the Windam, GOUF Ignited and Murasame.
(ID #63931) Posted on 2007/11/18 02:49
Dan of July in Arizona
3d Modeller/Time Lord
登録日: 2007/07/04 11:27
I agree with you Danny, the Wing Zero from Endless Waltz is pretty bad ass.  Those giant feather wings make it so cool.  But he's not my favorite from the EW OVA.  I've always been a big fan of Deathscythe Hell.

But if I had to choose my favorite gundam... I'm a ginormous fan of the Crossbone gundam's especially the X-3.  
(ID #63933) Posted on 2007/11/18 03:05
mikoo in Jakarta, Indonesia
登録日: 2007/10/18 00:50
Sieg Zeon Sieg Zeon Sieg Zeon

my fave :  zaku II char custom
(ID #63934) Posted on 2007/11/18 03:09
seth.frostheart in Malaysia. Singapore. Bangkok. Shanghai.
Motion Graphics Designer
登録日: 2007/01/08 00:59
wow.. tons of zeon suits. never thought they'd be so popular.

too bad sazabi, my favorite suit, isn't in the top 20... but an acguy is good too!^^
(ID #63939) Posted on 2007/11/18 04:23
D_Blade in Montreal, Canada
Non-profit org. volunteering work addict
登録日: 2006/12/31 22:36
Ah, that's too bad not to see an "Ultimate Gundam popularity poll". I hope that one day it will not only be about the first Gundam, but all series at once (and there will be much for choice then).
(ID #63943) Posted on 2007/11/18 05:00
Amstrad in Buffalo, NY
IT
登録日: 2007/09/21 01:27
I would have liked to see the standard Zaku rank a bit higher, though with Char's custom up there I'm pretty satisfied. Gouf would have been my primary vote though, so at least that's in the top 5.

@Friendly Hellraiser: Generally the red ones are Commander variants of the normally colored ones. They have greater capabilities and are associated with more interesting personalities than the plain grunt models. Thus a higher degree of favoritism.
(ID #63947) Posted on 2007/11/18 05:47
GHOST in Vancouver, Canada
Student
登録日: 2007/08/21 15:03
This article brought a tear to my eye because it reminede me when I was young. Gundam was the 1st anime I watched and Amuro Ray was mt 1st male hero. Priness Diana, Princess of Wales was my first (and female) hero. To me, nothing can kill Ray Amuro, Pilot of the legendary RX-78, except himself or god. You will always be the best Amuro. To the stars my old friend... to the stars... where we are free of our chains... and fight on in the name of freedom and peace. 
(ID #63948) Posted on 2007/11/18 06:10
gordon in 新加坡 Singapore
宅男 Otaku/ 工程师 Engineer
登録日: 2007/06/11 14:45
My all time favourite mobile suit is Strike Freedom Gundam. ^^;
(ID #63950) Posted on 2007/11/18 06:33
lightningsabre in Vancouver
Pseudo-Graphic Designer
登録日: 2007/08/30 18:15
Referring to seth.frostheart's post: This was one of the first shows I've seen where the "bad guys" had more variety of machines than the main character, so it's no surprise there are a lot of Zeon machines here.
(ID #63951) Posted on 2007/11/18 06:36
Angry Gouf in From a far
Techno-Freak
登録日: 2007/10/12 09:22
My Voting would be more like this:
   1.Gouf
   2.ZakuII
   3.Char's Z'Gok
   4.RX-78 Gundam
   5.Dom & Rick Dom
   6.Zeong
   7.Gelgoog
   8.Guncannon
   9.Guntank
   10.Grabro
   11.Big Zam
   12.Bigro
   13.ZakuI
   14.GM
   15.Acguy
   16.Elmeth
   17.Dopp Fighter
   18.Magella Attack Tank
   19.Big Tray Land Battleship
   20.Zanzibar class carrier
   21.Musai class Cruiser

Mind you i'm not good at picking favorites cause i love everything (espesially Zeon Stuff) equally.  So most most of these votes aren't completely accurate, except at least for the top three to five.  Goufs and Zaku's will always be my favorite!!!!

"Goufs and Zakus, Goufs and Zakus, I'm a little lad who loves Goufs and Zakus!!  GOUFS AND ZAKUS, GOUFS AND ZAKUS, I'M A LITTLE LAD WHO LOVES GOUFS AAANND ZAKUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUSSS!!!!!!!!!!"
(ID #63952) Posted on 2007/11/18 07:08
CyberSynaptic in Northern California
Nursing Student
登録日: 2006/12/25 18:58
Hey Danny, I was wondering.  Is it true that Japanese Gundam fans prefer the Principality of Zeon over the Earth Federation?  That's generally what I've heard about the Gundam fanbase in Japan, that most prefer the Zeon side to the Federation side.  

As for myself, I prefer the Zeon side, but I can't stand Char Aznable.  I find him terribly overrated, along with his salmon pink mobile suits.
(ID #63955) Posted on 2007/11/18 07:27
Danny Choo in Tokyo
Director/代表取締役
登録日: 2006/12/11 10:54
CyberSynaptic,
No Idea ^^; But will look out for a survey and will get back to you.

GHOST,
Glad you liked it ^^

Gordon,
I know ToT
(ID #63962) Posted on 2007/11/18 10:19
lanie-emon in Keldabe, Malaysia
Mandalorian in training + Otaku...
登録日: 2007/06/05 11:16
At least the DOM was in top ten. Happy ^^.
(ID #63983) Posted on 2007/11/18 12:00
Boris in USA
Interactive Media Design and Graphic Design
登録日: 2006/12/26 00:00
sadly i only seen some of it and not all of it. :-(
(ID #64028) Posted on 2007/11/18 17:28
SpeedStriker in Surrey,BC Canada
NewType
登録日: 2007/01/18 11:11
Maybe I'm just a Char fan, but I think the Char Custom Zaku should be in the first 2 places... ToT
(ID #64040) Posted on 2007/11/18 19:06
Garell
Uhm...the best MS in the OYW was... yeah, RX-78-2; I actually prefer the RX-78-1, a MSV also seen in Gundam Origin, at least on the E.F. side... the Gelgoog is the best zionic suit IMHO.
I've seen all the series and the best looking unit is the RX-178 Gundam MkII, simple and clean, followed by the Hi-Nu redisigned by CoreWorks or Vicious.
BTW, I don't consider the other storylines even if I've seen them... the real GUNDAM is only Universal Century.
(ID #64045) Posted on 2007/11/18 20:33
CyberSynaptic in Northern California
Nursing Student
登録日: 2006/12/25 18:58
I smell a UC Elitist in the house... :3
(ID #64069) Posted on 2007/11/19 02:54
Katharn/Code in Malaysia
Engineer
登録日: 2007/09/16 14:17
at least the GOUF is there :3
(ID #64078) Posted on 2007/11/19 04:52
kenny in australia sydney
Yes!! Gundam was first place. 
R-1 in the "White Star" Neviim
Personal Trooper
登録日: 2007/07/05 20:37
Ah, the original Gundam series... Where teenagers acted like teenagers, nearly everyone had an "awesome" theme song (Char! Char!), and discipline was reinforced with a slap to the face. 
(ID #64135) Posted on 2007/11/19 15:50
Rufus Shinra in 神羅HQ 60th floor, Midgar
登録日: 2007/01/20 00:53
I'm watching it 5 ep. every friday and man it's good! I never imagined I'd enjoy watching something this retro. The guncannon/guntank is just the most hilarious combo ever!
(ID #64146) Posted on 2007/11/19 19:38
Oxandr in Sydney, Australia
lanie-emon, I am with you!
After Gundam(s), Dom is no doubt the best sculpted mech! 
If "War In The Pocket" considered as an early Gundam series, I would add Kampfer as well.
 
Those in favor of ZAKUs, sorry guys - Zaku is uglier than death :) 
(ID #64174) Posted on 2007/11/20 02:03
Ryuuichi in Sydney, Australia
Student
登録日: 2008/03/15 23:35
Too bad the ranking is only from the first Gundam series.. They should have another one spanning from UC to AD..

My top 10:
1. Nu Gundam
2. Strike Freedom
3. Freedom
4. Sazabi
5. RX-78-2 Gundam
6. Akatsuki
7. Gundam Wing Zero Custom (Endless Waltz)
8. Z Plus [C1/2] MSZ-006C1/2
9. GM Custom
10. GM Sniper II

Tough choice.. Aside from the ones shown in series, Gundam Unicorn's gonna rank in top 3..
(ID #65582) Posted on 2007/12/01 16:45
登録日: 2008/02/27 06:30
If ball falls under the mobile suit category, Elmeth should be up there.. 
(ID #73331) Posted on 2008/02/27 21:47
JustRobert in Indonesia
student
登録日: 2008/04/20 01:29
although rx-78 is obsolete it's the father of all gundams, so i agree with the results but i like Mk. 2 better...
(ID #173411) Posted on 2008/04/21 22:54
Student
登録日: 2008/04/29 12:12
dood. Zero should have been on there somewhere
(ID #177302) Posted on 2008/04/29 12:18
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