*drools*
Well, Actually, I got used to go to medics a lot. So ppl that are used to see me, are like friends medics now. But the last one was cold like a rock, and he said that I'm fat (I'm a little fat, 64 kgs, I wanna reach 60kgs), and I need to exercise 30 HOURS PER WEEK, and I have to get some medicine to get better (I just went to a check-up, and I was good). Well, he was japanese... he didn´t know speak portuguese, and we tried to talked in english... THAT was really horrible for a doctor.
you forgot posting Angie from trauma center :p
Its fairly common knowledge that a lot of the good doctors from all over the world come here because the pay is better. Im not saying all of them, but when I lived in Canada, all the good doctors would move to the US because they got salaries. So, if they saw 200 people a day, they got paid the same as the Doctor who sees 2 people a day. Not too fair. I think doctors thinking they are gods and not wanting to be questioned is pretty much common everywhere I have been. Thats why avoid the Doctor. I will only go if I absolutely have to (near-death). Young Doctors here seem to be better than the older ones.
bouquetofguns, Posting angle? Dragun, A different note but many who I knew at Amazon said the same thing - they moved from Canada to the US as the pay is better. LOL at "near-death." Paiki, Shoot him in the left knee. Gundam_ZZ, でしょう?
i think i must go to japan to check up *drools*
I've never had any problem with doctors here. They only prescribe medicine if it's really necessary and that's only happened to me on a few rare occasions. I usually just get told what's wrong with me and what to do to get over the illness (usually rest). I think most people here see doctors simply to get medical certificates for work sick-leave.
If I remember correctly the term is called "brain drain." It's when a host country drains the brain (skilled workers) of another country with the allure of money (amongst other things). My Eco/World Culture Professor would be so proud of me right now. But I don't blame 'em. You need to go where the money is.
the doctors that i have seen generally tend to be very friendly and helpful and don't prescribe things for every little symptom. Helped me loads when i had tubercolosis in March 2006. BTW how am i gonah get to sleep now. just when im about to go to sleep i see the pics of those nurses. now i wont be able to stop thinking about them. :P
As a medical student, I think I might have an idea what's going on. It seems like you are probably only seeing these doctors on an emergency basis. Or you may only being going to Urgent Care types of clinics. By doing that, you never develop a rapport with any one doctor. You always see someone else. Therefore, you will never rise above a name and a symptom. These places are understaffed, overworked, and underpaid. They could care less about you, because they have enough on their plates as it is. The doctors who work there only do so to make a little extra cash in order to help pay back their loans. If, however, you went to see a regular family practice doctor, and went for yearly check-ups, you would see quite a difference. Sometimes you'd be healthy and not need anything. Other times, you'd be sick and need something. In either case, the doctor begins to get to know you, and you become a real person to him/her. They will be more concerned about your well being. They would also take more time answering your questions, and addressing any issues you might have. Of course, these are based on observations I have made in the U.S. I can't speak for doctors in Japan. But, I think these types of situations are most likely universal in the health care field. Young people only go to the doctor when they need/want something, and the doctor knows this, so gives them what they want. Older people go for preventative medicine, they get to know the doctor, and a real, positive doctor-patient relationship can be formed.
I'm currently pursuing a Ph.D here at the med school at University of Toronto. It takes a lot here to become a doctor and even genius has to work extremely hard to get in and graduate from a med school... doctors here tend to NOT subscribe anything at all if it's just a cold or something like that, and they'll explain things to you in detail and make sure you do the best thing to make the recovery, etc. but the problem is, if you have no appointments and have not-so-emergency "emergencies", the time between registering and your turn of seeing the doctor is on average 4 hours...... well, I guess that's what happens with public health care... I think Japanese doctors are the same as Chinese doctors...it took 5 seconds for them to ask you questions and get u to answer and another 5 seconds to write down the prescriptions, which are all DARN expensive...
malaysian doctors are excactly the same. my grand aunt was 92yo and was asked to go for a hip op...she passed away 1 week later...malaysian doctors...they only know 2 things...operate or amputate.
Well, here in Spain we have "universal health-care" (it's free for everyone) and the system pays a big part of the price of the prescriptions. Usually, the younger the family doctor (men or woman) is, the more attention he or she pays to what you say. If you are not happy with your doctor you can always ask to have asigned a different one. Emergencies work acceptably well also. The best thing here is that they don't care about expenses, it's free and the system takes care of you whatever the cost is.
Had an unfortunate incident on a 3 week trip to Tokyo back in February were I eventually had no choice but to see a Japanese doctor for an ingrown toenail. Doctor treated me OK, though I got a couple of funny looks from the receptionists. I didn't think much of it at the time, but he did give me a rather large amount of medicine (antiseptics, painkillers, antibiotics etc.) for such a minor condition...around 4500 yen's worth. Managed to claim it all back from insurance, so that was OK.
IMO Doctors in the Philippine sometimes tend to over prescribe as well, I once was taking prescribed medication for cough and colds only to find out the meds I was taking was a strong anitbiotic meant for STD. O.o and like Dragun mentioned, since the pay in the United States is a lot better, some if not most doctors here tend to migrate to the United States even if they end up working as nurses.
Heath care and doctors here are awsome~ I love the doctors here, they actually care about you and do detailed examanations and such... And the best of all free health care ftw :D
doctor....in here just senior doctors ( who always crowded with patient everyday ) who usually looks like that, but just in their attitude not for the medicine prescription. Our Doctor nowadays usually very polite and interactive, they do that to attract patient to come to them. The patient financial comes first, even you can ask the doctor to prescribe a generic medicine, which has no brand and cheap.
Doctors here are pretty good! But since the boom of the Nursing industry, some of our Doctors shifted to being nurses. People come here in the Philippines for their health too because not only are the rates cheap, but you get taken cared of whole heartedly too. But if the medical diagnosis is too grave and our facilities won't suffice, ill people go abroad and pay doctors extravagantly.
Being part of the medical community myself (one sister being a doctor, other sister being a nurse, my mom being a nurse and with me moving towards a B.S.N.), I've pretty much experienced everything. However, for the most part, doctors seem to be great around here. You'll always get those arrogant ones that refuse to listen to you, but most try to listen to their patients...mainly because they can't do their actual job without it. They sometimes make mistakes, but that's why it's called medical "practice." If you get the stubborn type, it's always best to just find another one. I had one that prescribed me medicine he knew I had an allergy to. I took it just to see how I'd react (haven't had the allergy in the longest time), and I showed symptoms of constant iching with the beginning symptoms of hives. I let him know during the next appointment, but he just told me to keep taking them.... Needless to say, I stopped going. The biggest issue doctors/nurses are currently facing is the malpractice lawsuits. It's gotten so ridiculous over the past couple years. If the slightest thing ever happens, all a patient has to do is tell a lawyer and then they (the doctors) get tied up in lawsuits galore. Then again, that's occuring a lot all around this place. People are starting lawsuits for the dumbest things. I'm sure you all remember the people who sued McDonalds for making them fat...
I'm surprised that selling prescription drugs isn't a problem in Japan with all the prescriptions doctors throw out. If the same practice was done over here, you would get patients who go to see a doctor because of drug overdose, and the doctor would prescribe them more drugs lol. But doctors here are good and try to explain what they can without the difficult doctor language.
exactly like "howie huang" sais, long waiting is the 'bad' thing here. but the doctor service is good. nurse...if I have Sayaka Isoyama as nurse, my condition won't get better for sure, because I definitely DON'T want to get better LOL ^^;
Hmm come to think of it, I think I haven been sick enough to see the doctor for a very long time. But based on my past experience to the doctors, I guess health professionals over here in Singapore are pretty nice and will take time to explain if you asked them. OR probably its because he's my family doctor that whys he's patient with me. If there were nurses like that, I would go down to the clinic or hospital everyday!
Danny, My uncle used to tell horror stories about getting his children treated (sounded almost exactly like your description), but fortunately in Tokyo he had enough selection to find some one with some sense. If you haven't read the manga "医龍-Team Medical Dragon", you might look for it. It's one of the best I've read in a long time, and it takes a very critical look at the Japanese medical industry and explain why it is the way it is and how it can change. It also manages to be very entertaining along the way. ^^ Every nation has its own nightmare medical system. The more I think about it, the more I think that when I settle down from my missions work to take some time to raise a family, I'll go to medical school. When I was younger, all these stories about horrible doctors in every part of the world encouraged me to pick a different career. Now when I hear them, though, they motivate me to join the field to make a difference.
ow the doc there sound scarry !! i won't wanna see any doc during my trip there in Nov.
If I saw nurses that pretty on hospitals I would go more often.
What, no Trauma Center references? Doctor Styles. Doctor Styles. Doctor Styles. Doctor Styles. Doctor Styles. Doctor Styles. Doctor Styles. Doctor Styles. Doctor Styles. :P Well, here in Brazil health is kinda chaotic, specially if you depend on public services. If you depend on public services here, the usual is: If your problem is light, it'll be cured way before you get attended. If it's bad, you can either be lucky and be attended before dying... or not. About the doctors though... some are very very nice, some are very very bad. But you can't really compare it to Japan. For instance, here in Brazil in the past couple of years police discovered several doctors that practiced the job without having a license, and even worse, sometimes without even knowing anything about the job itself. Some of those cases ended up in death or severe health issues for the pacients, and only because of that the fake doctor was invetigated. But yeah, I hear about that a lot from friends or parents that lived in Japan. How doctors will stuff the pacient with drugs, won't touch or examine the pacients thorougly and won't let the pacients make questions. Very bad. At least for me, and I really think this is for most pacients... I only look for a doctor if I really really need. Because otherwise, I hate hospitals... bad past experiences.
doctors over here are nice. they answer your questions as best as they can (in layman terms) and even chit chat with you.
I've only gone to two doctors in my entire life: my uncle, who's just a generic doctor (I think), and a neurologist. Both of them were good, but the latter was exceptionally good. Overall though, I'd say the people here are just so-so.
Doctors over here are mostly friendly and nice. There's this 'cool'-ness associated with doctors over here, so in that sense, you can actually say that in (mareshia) my country doctors are -expected- to be cool and polite when dealing with patients. Btw if most nurses look like Sayaka Isoyama, I'd get sick all the time XD
Gorgeous nurse! I if there really was one like that, she would be promoted to the top very quickly, with so many patients coming to get examined...
Average, I went to the hospital last week to get some blood out to see if I had some sort of infection or something and then took me pretty well and the doctor was alright. Well, one thing was wrong, the nurses weren't kawaii like those in Japan, Danny T_T T_T
In Indonesia, try to avoid the doctor here, they'll kill you instead of curing you (I'm serious). Anyone at middle class above are going to Singapore or Malaysia to get treatment (if you don't know, those 2 are known to have the best hospital in southeast asia, and one of the best in the world) I remember my mother telling me story about her friend's father who suffered from diabetes. Basically, he got pricked by nail on leg and the wound kept getting bigger and rotted. He went to S'pore and doctor said, you must have your leg cut, its rotted to the tissues and stuff. Being a Chinese traditional person, he believed that if you died without leg, you can't walk in the afterlife, so he rejected the idea. Then he tried Indonesian doctor, doctor said, we can clean the tissues, no prob, so he picked the Indo one. After he got his wound cleaned, the flesh started rotting again, not doctor fault, but his tissue was already rotted severely and must be cut. However, the indo doctor said, just come back and we gonna clean it again. He repeated the process like 10 times, each time with excruciating pain + wad of cash, till his leg is all bone, no flesh. After that, doctor said, ok, lets cut your leg without sense of guilt. He eventually cut his leg at S'pore and died like 2 years later. He spent like 50-70 grand or more (can't remember). The other one that makes into news, student got into traffic accident with some small scar and brought to hospital. In hospital, he was given antibiotic 10 times dosage of someone infected with zombie disease head to toe. His family was poor and told that the medication was free and he should come back to get more treatment. Being gullible of antibiotic side effect, he kept returning to get antibiotic administered to him at same dosage. About less than a week, he died from OD(overdose). His family tried to file a complain but failed miserably due to poverty and medical field equivalent of God's saint.
This is my second time to read negative feedback on doctors in Japan. Maybe you've just visited the wrong hospital.
I personally think that the mental relief of seeing a doctor is a big part of the cure already. If you don't trust your doctor, then going to see one won't help much. =P
Wow! I'd like to be a doctor in Japan. Gorgeous nurses and gorgeous fees they got there! ^_^/
haha,dont simply believe doctor
I hear horror stories about the health care system in Japan and its quite crap that was in 1999 looks like things have not change. Perhaps thats why there is this whole genre of eroge on Nurses I only wish the Nurses here were like Toshihide Sano and Peko illustration, would like to play those games though. Might check for gamevideos on those
Hmmm...sorry that you've had bad experiences with doctors here, but for the most part I'm pretty satisfied with the level of care I've gotten here and how much health care coverage is mandated and supported. I definitely go get check ups far more than I did back in the US. The doctors that I've run into have been okay, a little on the "I'm better than you" side, but for the most part they answered my questions and didn't overprescribe me meds (truth be told I very rarely get anything prescribed ;p). BTW, I would recommend you check out the Tokyo Midtown Clinic in Tokyo Midtown. It's part of a partnership with John Hopkins Medical, and it was uber high tech (all check ins are done initially through computerized booths when you input data on your information card...which you get after your first visit); well designed (it seems more like a designer マンション than a clinic); the nurse and staff are helpful; and they even have doctors from the US (dual licensed for the US and Japan). I'm pretty sure it's covered by typical 健康保険. Stay healthy!
Doctors are as come and goes, there are good and bad, thankfully every doctor that I went here are really good, sometimes in a year I never set my foot in a doctor's office only at the dentist.
Well, as a starter, i'm a doctor myself (GP), and the situation in France is quite allright i think. There's good and bad, but all in all people are very satisfied with health situation (although it costs a lot, taxwise). I've always wondered about GP work in Japan, and if it was much different than work here in France. Obviously it is. Maybe i should come over to Japan and open a clinic for foreigners who want to be taken care of "just like at home" lol. On a sidenote, i tend to talk a lot to my patients, and try to explain things thoroughly. That might be because i'm quite young, but i always feel like explaining (although i know people don't understand half of what i'm saying lol).
Last May when i was in Nayoro, Hokkaido for my marriage i took a terrible fever ( around 39...) probably from some hand made rowfish dish i suppose. I went to a private doctors and i admit he was really nice, i payed 10.000 yen for the cure ( he gave all that i needed ) and all went well. I Italy private Doctors are usually quite good, competent and friendly. Hospital ones could be for oppose really risky...no jokes.
Being from the Philippines, I'd have to say this. Our medical schools churn out a lot of really good doctors, regardless of what that American TV show said. But like my fellow countrymen said, a lot of them leave for better pay and opportunity. Regarding doctors in general, I had a family pediatrician who was so strict and paranoid (to my mind) that every time I left her clinic I felt like I had a terminal illness. On the other hand, she has advanced credentials in Pediatrics and Hemotology, so I never argued, and she managed to save my cousin's life within hours of birth, and diagnosed my nephew's condition based on a ten minute interview. Something that took others severl tests to confirm. So yeah, I'd say a doctor you can build up a history with is the best, rather than going to some medical service that looks at you as a statistic.
I cheat a little as alot of my old university mates are doctors so I can get a free basic diagnosis without waiting! But I'm from the school of thought that most problems will be solved with water and bedrest. I'll only see a doctor if I have a major pain which stops me from doing most things or if the symptoms persist for more than a few days (which has only happened a couple of times over the last 3 years) I have been told of all the horror stories from the far east. Hong Kong isn't much better than Japan. In fact, one of my medic friends phoned up a hospital which was treating a relative to tell them off for not following through on her problem!
We don't have many issues like this in my country. Most people (at least I do) would rather go to a particular old school doctor instead of going to a clinic where most young and unexperienced doctors work at. That's because those "old school" doctors are actually top notch University teachers and have their own private clinic or something. For unusual things, they'd ask you for a whole set of analysis (depending on the case of course) and then they would prescribe you with the right medicine or just tell you that you'll be fine without drugs on your body. On the other hand, younger doctors that work on large Private clinics have a "policy" of over-prescribing because: a) they get bigger commissions from laboratories, b) the clinic gets more money from your health inssurance company. Anyway, I went to the same Pediatrician from age 1 month to 19yo so I can't speak that much :P
Hello Nurse!!!!! I think I can get around the pour health care if I had a nurse like that first one, w00t! (nose bleed)
with nurses like those, who needs a doctor. I'd get healed just by looking at them. XD Never had problems with sickness since both my parents are doctors. So it's all good. ^^
Our doctors here are pretty good..well it depends on the hospital you're at. If it's private, then you're in good hands. But if you're in a government-owned one, good luck with your life.
As most big countries it's hard to say something exact about doctors in Brazil, so I'll just tell about my region (southern part). As already said before, you can't rely in public health system, but if you have a health plan (I do) the situation is much better, but as usual there are good and bad doctors. Most I ever meet are nice and very talkative (brazilian people mostly like to talk adn have human contact), even the ones not very nice I've met always answer all your questions, but you have to question them, otherwise they will just write the receipt. The nice ones will not even wait your questions and start explaining about your problem (or if lucky the lack of one) and they try to relax you saying not to worry. The best thing is ask people around what are the best doctors, it isn't very hard to find it out.
I don't know if this has already been posted, but there's a great manga out that deals with the problems of the medical industry called Team Medical Dragon. For english speakers I think you can only get it "Scanlated" but I think it's worth the download if you don't have qualms about that sort of thing and have an interest in the types of things that go on. The story is obvioulsy dramatized but still deals with real matters in field. Complete with hotblooded male doctor.
To Steady underneath- Team Medical Dragon or whatever it's name is, is also a drama. I think it
