2D VS 3D
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Sat 2007/03/31 01:39
Apart from having their literal meaning, within the Japanese Otaku sphere, Ni Jigen refers to anime or manga female characters while San Jigen refers to real women. I've seen polls in Japanese and the outcome is that Ni Jigen always wins. I know there are a lot of Otaku out there who visit this site so the question has to be asked ^^;
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Nothing beats the real thing. ^_^
(ID #46016) Posted on 2007/03/31 02:21
LoboBrancoTimido (Registered on 2007/01/14 22:39)
I might love anime BUT nothing in this world beats the real "thing".
(ID #46018) Posted on 2007/03/31 02:32
gotta say 3D all the way, 2D is nice to watch but that's it
(ID #46019) Posted on 2007/03/31 02:35
I disagree. The chances of finding a real person of truly "good" characteristics (beauty, intelligence, good intentions, etc) is very slim. Its much easier to find in Anime because it is created by people. But if you ask me to choose between anime and a girl of equal appeal, I'll take reality.
(ID #46020) Posted on 2007/03/31 02:56
2D girls are the only girls where both pair of eyes are big.
(ID #46021) Posted on 2007/03/31 03:08
wow i been wondering about that for ages, that really helped danny!
(ID #46022) Posted on 2007/03/31 03:22
Policy & Research Officer
Wow you posted a nice comparison picture where even the 3D real life babe had 2 pairs of big nice-looking "eyes". Thats kinda rare in real-life. I'd think any guy would go for a real one, the problem is just getting hold of one.
(ID #46023) Posted on 2007/03/31 03:32
Aurora (Registered on 2006/12/26 09:37)
San Jigen will be the best to haven. However, Ni Jigen will always have the perfect eyes ^^;
(ID #46024) Posted on 2007/03/31 03:33
Ni Jigen of course...I rather have anime than anything. well..maybe thats not all true.
(ID #46025) Posted on 2007/03/31 03:36
iamKaioken in Chico, CA
I'd have to agree with Ken. Judging with the way the ladies seem to treat guys in general, it'll be sometime, if ever, that a lady will make me feel truly content. But I've got blood pumping through my veins, I'd sure like my significant other to be the same.
(ID #46026) Posted on 2007/03/31 03:39
Troubleshooter, Universal Exports
But... 2次元 are easier to find, and are always accepting and accommodating. They don't hide behind their appearance, one doesn't look beautiful and is shallow on the inside. When it comes to 3次元 you need to search harder and deeper. Very often what is easily found and easily at hand is something you don't want or need. In my Otaku guise I have to say 2次元! Besides, nothing man made could compete with what I have in real life.
(ID #46027) Posted on 2007/03/31 03:57
daydreaming and planning to take over the world
I've got tons of San jigen pics of jp Idols on my HDs....But I lost my heart with Ni jigen figs. They are so kawai and so on..... But still it's a tough choice to make.....In fact ...2D-3D..love them both.
(ID #46028) Posted on 2007/03/31 04:38
Anime, videogames, etc. girls are mostly characterized by this wish for perfection in physical traits, character, etc. even when they got their own quirks (one having almost exclusively bad traits is usually a villain or an outcast who will improve herself greatly with time... rule of thumb). It's really not easy to find a girl (in real life) who will be (fully?) compatible with you, that will accept you no matter what and that will stay by your side for the rest of your life (let's go for the full picture shall we!) but it does exist (of course the reciprocal part is essential in a healthy, durable, true, loving and committed relationship). Even if the chances are slim, it's truly worth trying... but it's also vital to remain cautious at all times (falling in love with virtual girls may involve much less constraints and everything, but you can easily imagine that interaction levels are not the same!) I just hope my girlfriend will be the first and the only one for me. I am ready for it, and no 2D girl will ever take her place in my heart.
(ID #46029) Posted on 2007/03/31 04:52
ecchi student
Suzumiya Haruhi all the way!!
(ID #46030) Posted on 2007/03/31 04:53
And dreaming about female idols is nice and all, but if you want your significant other to be exactly the same, well... There are many more factors to consider when being in a relationship. Danny, the answer to your question is easy since anime is a Japanese phenomenon... For the people here, the results would be surely different. Cultural bias? ;) (You are conducting a sociological study? lol)
(ID #46031) Posted on 2007/03/31 04:58
Lowlife
2D 4 Evar
(ID #46032) Posted on 2007/03/31 05:20
I'll have to go 3D here. 2D girls are cute: but either she becomes real, or I become a drawing... If not, the interaction would be kind of difficult ^.^
(ID #46034) Posted on 2007/03/31 05:33
I rather go with 3D. Although with new technology coming out will result in everything 2D to become 3D
(ID #46035) Posted on 2007/03/31 05:44
Student
hahah..I will definitely prefer the "San Jigen". The "Ni Jigen" are ultimately just a figment of another person's imagination..though I believe "Ni Jigen" are cute, but ya can't have interaction with them. This will be different in the case of "San Jigen". It all ultimately boils down to interaction. How I wish anime character can one day become real life..Hahaha..thats I think fat hope for me...
(ID #46036) Posted on 2007/03/31 05:52
Volt in USA
2D girls are perfect. Real girls are not. If I choose 2D girls, I'm going to be viewed as a maladjusted freak. BUT I DON'T CARE. I'm going 2D.
(ID #46037) Posted on 2007/03/31 06:23
College Student
I'll prefered "Ni Jigen" because of it's long life span that you can view it forever.
(ID #46038) Posted on 2007/03/31 06:50
webmistress/ ceo
i wouldnt even know what to say about this topic... i do love yuki nagato from haruhi though^^
(ID #46040) Posted on 2007/03/31 08:06
Video Editor / Sound Designer / DJ
Hmm.... for girls I'd say 3-D for sure, as far as video games, I prefer the 2-D 16bit.
(ID #46041) Posted on 2007/03/31 08:43
.NET/Web Developer
NI JIGEN!!!! heheh. If only they were real...>_< Still, NI JIGEN!!!! :D
(ID #46042) Posted on 2007/03/31 09:01
well honestly i prefer both becuz dey both look pretty to me !
(ID #46043) Posted on 2007/03/31 09:28
the thing is, i would love real boobs in my face, but 2d boobs are good as well. :)
(ID #46044) Posted on 2007/03/31 10:16
Polygon Pusher
I gotta say, can't beat the real deal.
(ID #46045) Posted on 2007/03/31 10:55
both looks great, but you can't feel the 2D's ^-^
(ID #46046) Posted on 2007/03/31 11:39
Custom Pc Builder, Muppet, Pyromaniac, Demolitions Expert, Guitar Slinger,
2d's look extremely cute n cuddley but nothing can beat that gaze that the 3d gal is giving lol. but year like someboy else said. you cant 'feel' a 2d gal
(ID #46047) Posted on 2007/03/31 12:24
Conan Rock in Hong Kong
Do you mean "characters VS real ladies"? Humm...what about the 3D characters in games?
(ID #46048) Posted on 2007/03/31 12:39
kuromitsu in Hungary
2D moe charas are created to be escapist fantasies, so in that aspect they beat real people... but for this reason they become boring after a while. Look at the images, the anime girl is just like her twenty-thousand "sisters." Boooring. Real people are, well, real. Much better than blotches of ink. Plus, at look those eyes. Rawr.
(ID #46049) Posted on 2007/03/31 14:05
i'd prefer warm pink flesh over a cold piece of plastic... but when the warm pink flesh is a cosplayer as well, that'll be such sheer bliss...
(ID #46050) Posted on 2007/03/31 16:15
Technical Writer/Editor, Designer, Collector, Artist, Nice Guy
Interesting! For me, I choose 3D. But to explain Japan's preference for 2D, it's gotta be a cultural phenomenon. I don't see a high percentage of Asian women in Vegas, which may reflect their "exotic" factor outside of Japan. At the same time, I don't think ALL women in Japan are smouldering as your 3D example, lol, so the never-ending multi-colored variety of 2D beauty might appeal to Japan. Maybe the Japanese know something we don't? :)
(ID #46051) Posted on 2007/03/31 16:27
I know that the 2D versions are based on what exists in reality, but a while ago Iori Yoshizuki was all I could think about. Ack! Why can't all girls (and boys) be as purehearted as Yoshizuki~! 70 Percent?!? The 3D girl with the 'eyes' gets an unfair advantage. If 2D was represented with 'eyes' you guys wouldn't be voting so unfairly.
(ID #46052) Posted on 2007/03/31 16:49
Movies are better than real life. 2D girls are better than 3D. 2D girls, like any other entertainment or art medium, are escapist fantasy. Our fantasies and fictions can tell us a lot about ourselves, but can never substitute for the real thing. 3D is best, because reality is only inferior to fantasy if we do not choose to make the most of our reality. Of course, Sturgeon's Law applies to women just as it does to anything else, so the key is to find a woman who makes the most of herself and her reality.
(ID #46053) Posted on 2007/03/31 17:06
marvin (Registered on 2006/12/25 00:30)
I feel like falling for a 2D character is about the same as falling for a 3D chacter in a movie. sure they'll always be perfect and all but can never be real. but then again there's nothing wrong with dreaming. right? ^^ btw Danny, just wanted you to know the login and comment doesn't seem to work on explorer for windows mobile.
(ID #46055) Posted on 2007/03/31 17:28
Hi danny. This post it's only for your knowledge: people from ebay are using your photos. Not big deal, but their are selling bootleg's =/ Example: http://cgi.ebay.com/ONEGAI-PLEASE-TEACHER-SEXY-KAZAMI-MIZUHO-DESSERT-FIGURE_W0QQitemZ330103217271QQcategoryZ1345QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem That's it. (Sorry for my bad english.)
(ID #46056) Posted on 2007/03/31 18:04
Hmmm, hard question, but i will have to go with 3D. I guess everyone at some point has had a crush on someone that wasnt actually real, but as said before, they will never be real. Hmph, shame really ^_^. I guess you have to make yourself say that from time to time, otherwise its a long, expensive, road back to reality.
(ID #46057) Posted on 2007/03/31 19:08
Retired zion colonel and part-time beach volley ball player
Hmm.... Ni Jigen - Perpetual Gravity Defiance. San Jigen - Eventual Gravity Conformance. ...I...voted for the latter.
(ID #46058) Posted on 2007/03/31 20:55
Student Engineer
GAH! You had to ask this question x_x. While you can deeply relate to anime characters, they are just that- fiction. A real life person, who you get to know and have a relationship with, never plotted or scripted anything (lets hope!)
(ID #46066) Posted on 2007/04/01 04:21
Director/代表取締役
Wary, Thanks for the heads up - I cant do anything about that - its embarrassing for them. Marvin, Will look into it - someday ^^; Ben, Good point. Maybe I should do 2D with eyes next time ^^; 46さん、 ルイズちゃんは最高ですね！
(ID #46069) Posted on 2007/04/01 05:42
Gordon Pekeur in south africa -cape town-
I think real "JAPANESE" chix are better .... Im sure they taste better too ..... ;)
(ID #46072) Posted on 2007/04/01 07:41
Hmm, for me, i will have to go with San-Jigen. Although i love to see all the moe and kawai, as well as cool ni-jigen characters, at the end of the day, a real human would still come out on top (that phrase could be interpreted very wrongly xP)and also, if there is a really nice human, atleats you have a chance of meeting them, but manga/anime will have to stay fictional :( However, if you get a nice San-Jigen to dress up as a Ni-Jigen, then you can get the best of both worlds xD
(ID #46075) Posted on 2007/04/01 09:00
Everything
Real girls are a pain in the ass, but they're all we have. But for crap like wallpapers and avatars Ni Jigen all the way.
(ID #46089) Posted on 2007/04/01 20:43
ファン。
Uh, wow. Okay, true story. A while back, Momotato once said that the anime version of Yamamoto Maria-san in "Komugi-chan" is hotter than the real one. Ha ha ha! Anyway, both have their ups and downs. 2D girls have the ideal personality. 3D girls have the fact that they're real. Either way, you can't get everything you want really. You can't become a drawing and you sure can't make a drawn girl become real. Oh and cosplayer can try to mimic the magic, but it will not do so in the end, even if you have someone like Hikami Kyouko-san cosplaying as Ellis. --'
(ID #46123) Posted on 2007/04/02 08:04
MadCatMk2
Hey people I need your help.. I had found this image with an anime girl sitting and another RL girl sitting opposite her, the same way the anime girl was sitting. It was a really nice pic. If anyone could provide me with a link I'd be really glad! ^_^ Thanks a Lot!!
(ID #64724) Posted on 2007/11/23 21:04
Part trooper, part santa, 100% loser
2D FTW!
(ID #69775) Posted on 2008/01/15 16:55
2D is sooo hot! yet the real thing is irreplaceable
(ID #172031) Posted on 2008/04/18 11:31
How can you compare such thing?
(ID #183895) Posted on 2008/05/09 05:03
HappyCat in somewhere in Asia near the mountains and a hydroelectric dam (Registered on 2008/04/03 03:56)
freelancer,freeloader,noh drama and enka fanatic
3d.I mean,there's always a possibility to met a girl that looks like Aya Hirano than meeting a girl with powers like Suzumiya's.
(ID #187779) Posted on 2008/05/15 00:36
Web Developer
2D is fun, 3D is love. :D
(ID #263913) Posted on 2008/08/12 23:10
文学や音楽と同じく画面や記憶の中のキャラクターは、俳優やアイドルと同じく永遠のもの。 目の前の友人や恋人は日々の中で変化し、成長してゆくもの。 そのどちらにもＭＯＥは存在しうるし、愛おしむべき存在だと思う。
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