Men Only Carriage
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Mon 2008/04/14 20:30
And the one below says "groping is a crime" with the side note "saying 'it just happened' is still a crime."
Many young girls are accusing men of groping them. A typical case is that two girls work together. After they designate their target, one of the girls will follow the man off the train and say "Sawatta no ne?" or "You touched me." The second girl would join in as a stranger and say "yeah I saw you touch her."
The first girl would then say, "give me 40,000 yen and we can forget about this or I go to the police."
The video below shows another tactic. A woman bumps into a man (who had both hands in his pocket) and falls to the floor crying saying that he touched her. The man was falsely accused of groping her and spent the night at the police station.
The woman approached the police a week later to confess that she did it because she wanted ”private settlement money."
In the meantime, men can buy these straps which are attached to nothing but shows that their hands are occupied - a bargain at 525 yen.
Sterilization Technician@ Prince Of Wales Hospital
LOL @ last video Danny having a Men only carriage won't solve anything vice versa with women only carriage though i remember hearing that if a girl doesnt get groped in Japan that she isnt pretty or good enough..
(ID #170543) Posted on 2008/04/14 20:44
Your last line made me think that some (perverted in that case) people really have the worst, lamest excuses for their weird hobbies/fetishes/illustrations of impulses, etc. to be condoned.
(ID #170548) Posted on 2008/04/14 20:50
I think a groping carriages would solve the problem.
(ID #170952) Posted on 2008/04/15 20:55
dude easiest way....go homo/or flaming queer make em think your literally being raped by the girl when she called you out. bet you itll work. *mo yaddda* *Kimoiiiiii* (like a okami fainting spell for good measure)
(ID #171226) Posted on 2008/04/16 10:16
Between chikan and bullying for money, no act is morally better than the other... They are both despicable and worth a subliminal brainwash to finally retrieve a sense of justice and good. I liked (and grinned at it as well) the first picture... The poster makes me think they are all fans of Kamina... "Fight the Power!" Hell Yeah, Ba-by~!!
(ID #170545) Posted on 2008/04/14 20:46
Plastic train engineer
I still think Japanese trains are the most pleasant and safe to ride. No matter how insanely packed the trains manage to get, there seems to rarely be any sort of incident. I much rather have it that way than in some other countries where you have to continuously watch who may be standing behind or next to you. I can handle a woman falsely accusing me of being a groping me. Being robbed or pick pocketed straight up sucks.
(ID #170551) Posted on 2008/04/14 21:02
men or woken are in it for the quick buck.. be funny if some guy would come forward and say some woman groped him and asked for her to be arrested! men get screwed over too.. and everybody belives the poor inocent woman..yeah right! turnabout is fair play!
(ID #170558) Posted on 2008/04/14 21:10
Working in a supermarket T0T
That's actually quite a good idea, but i wonder if it isn't very confusing for tourists. I mean, not that it would be a bad thing to accidentally hop in a train with only woman aboard XD.
(ID #170564) Posted on 2008/04/14 21:22
Service desk support
TBH, I wouldn't be surprised to hear that the number of false accusations would be greater than the actual number of groping incidents. it's a crime which is hard to prove yet can be taken advantage of by one party. Rape is similar in that the woman can accuse and then the guy is castrated, even if he is innocent.
(ID #170576) Posted on 2008/04/14 21:35
Service desk support
Forgot to add that the Women making the accusations usually get away scott free, even if they made the accusation up to begin with!!
(ID #170580) Posted on 2008/04/14 21:39
Secretary
groping =/= rape If a woman is touched it is just emotional harm, rape is not only emotional but physical too and should be investigated and punished to the extent of the law. There are ways to find out about rape if the victim goes to the hospital like they should, and thus has something groping doesn't...evidence.
(ID #170714) Posted on 2008/04/15 05:07
Student
this kind of segregation would solve some groping issues, BUT, I can only fixate to think later on in the future, more trains will switch over to gender separation, if any at all circumstances will push it to that extent. I say things are fine the way they, like toast and butter. Don't all of a sudden add mayonnaise. These are the small and intricate things that make up holy hell Japan
(ID #170578) Posted on 2008/04/14 21:37
The perverts ruin it for everyone...gah, always the way.
(ID #170579) Posted on 2008/04/14 21:38
Student
and as for the handle thingymajigger, to me it seems like a product for people who have deprived themselves of their own dignity in terms of trusting their own hands.
(ID #170581) Posted on 2008/04/14 21:41
waving your hands around like that bloke in the last video seems to be the best solution for us men. it should scare away all those pesky girls who wanna cheat your money! ^^;;
(ID #170585) Posted on 2008/04/14 22:03
And it is the ultimate way to not get pickpocketed. Kudos!
(ID #170684) Posted on 2008/04/15 03:10
ひきこもり/Hikikomori. Suits my current state more than a 大学生/University Student. ^^
If men were to accuse women of groping them...
(ID #170588) Posted on 2008/04/14 22:23
i remember visiting tokyo last year and ALWAYS ending up (by sheer coincidence) on a Ladies Only carriage. Slightly embarrassing but we always moved. The ladies were always just giggling until we figured it out and moved on, but then again we also made it a point to travel when it wasn't rush hour. Still, a sexual assault accusation shouldn't be taken lightly and anything to ease minds of the innocent should help.
(ID #170589) Posted on 2008/04/14 22:28
anime/cosplay events organizer
this may be a temporary solution but it is still a solution to protect innocent men from 'opportunist' but that won't stop some pervs and opportunists >.>
(ID #170590) Posted on 2008/04/14 22:29
Contraband Distrabution Specialist
If Danny suddenly stops blogging one week we all will know what happened. Danny's been pointing his stormtrooper rifle at the wrong rebel stronghold!!!
(ID #170594) Posted on 2008/04/14 22:51
I find it sad that you have to seperate men and women, why can't everyone just be together and live in a peaceful environment? Oh, back to the reality, men only carriage could solve the problem for the moment, but in the longer terms I think it would do more damage than good.
(ID #170596) Posted on 2008/04/14 23:01
Student and full-time otaku
This is one of those 'WTF Japan' moments. I heard it was happening, but not to this extent (botht the real and the faked gropings). Just do something useful with your day (like collecting figures ^^).
(ID #170600) Posted on 2008/04/14 23:10
Aimless Traveler
It's quite unfair that there are no men's right groups or organizations fighting for the creation of men only carriage. This is gender discrimination I tell ya. Ain't men and women made equal? Also, in before JAV porn about a busty hot babe trapped inside a men only carriage.
(ID #170601) Posted on 2008/04/14 23:11
I find it amazing that just an accusation is enough to land someone in jail for this. It would require proof in the U.S. or the accuser would run the risk of being convicted of making false accusations.
(ID #170602) Posted on 2008/04/14 23:14
Using a friend as your (blatantly lying) witness would work. You don't have to be in the right to win a lawsuit, you just have to win over the judge/jury.
(ID #170799) Posted on 2008/04/15 11:12
I am surprised that a society as advanced as Japan's would take such a step backward as to segregate their population.
(ID #170603) Posted on 2008/04/14 23:17
Danny you dance like Rick!
(ID #170604) Posted on 2008/04/14 23:25
Amazing dancing Danny. I can't believe you had the guts to go all out like that - and you weren't even arrested! :p
(ID #170605) Posted on 2008/04/14 23:29
animefreak222 (Registered on 2007/05/27 12:46)
well if the problems still continues despite efforts being made to curb the problem,i think i may know a drastic answer to solve the problem.how about a curfew? curfew solution 1: here how it works:at certain hours(eg:8am-9am) of the day women are allowed outside to get to work first and the men must remain at home during this hours and if any men(even if he is diguised as a women)who is detected during the curfew hours will immediately arrested and appropriate justice will dealt to him so on and so forth. curfew solution 2: split areas in transport terminals one for the men and the other for women and both genders are not allowed to cross each other lines and if they do break the rules,appropriate justice will be taken and so on and so forth. this way men and women take different routes of transport. btw this is only a suggestion so take your pick as both have benefits and drawbacks.
(ID #170606) Posted on 2008/04/14 23:35
and what if i want to go to work together with my girlfriend? or take her out in the evening? please, this is ridiculous. a better solution would be to better educate people from child age. men should know how to behave in public areas and be able to control their desires. females should strengthen their character, do martial arts and in general learn not to be affected by humiliation. i'm no expert, but i'd think gropers get most of their kick from feeling the humiliation of their victims. if the victim kicks their ass instead of being embarassed and retreating like a rabbit, that would surely change something. in short: women should get more balls and men should lose some. ;)
(ID #170624) Posted on 2008/04/15 00:39
Part human, part student, 100% loser
LOL straps which aren't attached to anything, I'll get one for the lulz... You can still poke people with those straps right? If you know what I mean... I think I like your idea better Danny, dancing is so much more fun than holding those straps...
(ID #170626) Posted on 2008/04/15 00:41
Part human, part student, 100% loser
If you wanna grope someone, go grope yourself! Dunno if this is possible but... I find this men only carriage weird... NOT that only this part of Japan is weird...
(ID #170628) Posted on 2008/04/15 00:46
Upstair ...addicted to anything related to chibi
Now that comment is weird..lol grope......yourself...uggg
(ID #170704) Posted on 2008/04/15 04:19
They must be much narcissistic to grope themselves. "Ohhh! What is that hand!! Pervert! Oh, that's mine. I love myself so much sometimes" ...Urgh. Please give me an aspirin.
(ID #170730) Posted on 2008/04/15 07:52
Troubleshooter, Universal Exports
^o^ Makes note for future reference.
(ID #170803) Posted on 2008/04/15 11:46
I was not talking about myself, dear friend, just going for pure sarcasm on what was said above. What, you thought I was talking about myself? Dear Kami-Sama.
(ID #170812) Posted on 2008/04/15 12:23
Troubleshooter, Universal Exports
D_Blade I just could resist the urge to tease you. I'm bad like that... Of course you weren't talking about yourself.
(ID #170818) Posted on 2008/04/15 12:40
Either I take things too seriously or I just wonder how far others think (especially the ones other than you and I; y'know, people who read your crazy joke and take it literally ^^). I will opt for the second option in this precise case. XD
(ID #170823) Posted on 2008/04/15 13:02
Troubleshooter, Universal Exports
You are right. I should be more careful. I think I annoyed someone here recently and wasn't smart enough to realize it.
(ID #170845) Posted on 2008/04/15 14:06
Eh? Really? That's sad. People should learn to laugh a bit more (and appreciate life and the little things) sometimes. As for myself, I was joking in return... My reputation is not to prove anymore... I'm just an ero oyaji, you know! XD
(ID #170852) Posted on 2008/04/15 14:35
hopefully gay incidents wont increase
(ID #170631) Posted on 2008/04/15 00:51
Troubleshooter, Universal Exports
You know it will. Not sure how true it is sooo... I have heard that it happens on the "women only" carriages.
(ID #170722) Posted on 2008/04/15 06:44
animefreak222 (Registered on 2007/05/27 12:46)
possibly the rise of gayism.lols
(ID #170758) Posted on 2008/04/15 09:24
Systems programmer
Oh man, am I gonna have to watch out for this when I visit Japan? Any known cases of some girls targeting gaijins?
(ID #170645) Posted on 2008/04/15 01:07
japan so weired...
(ID #170649) Posted on 2008/04/15 01:12
Extremely Poor College Student
if i get accused and get stuck in jail i'm so going to get the girl back when i get out.i'll show her what real gropping is
(ID #170661) Posted on 2008/04/15 02:29
on the safe side i think we should put our hands in the air and say banzai!!! when we're in the train
(ID #170667) Posted on 2008/04/15 02:36
If I was only a busy Japanese train with women around, I'll put my hands on my head like when I was in primary/elementary school and when we were naughty, the teacher would stop us by telling us to put our hands on our head. Then I'll leave the train with my hands on my head and if any women were to accuse me, I'll slowly walk to a camera and talk to them with my hands on my head. Stupid looking and may get pick pocketed but will make sure I won't be falsely accused.
(ID #170672) Posted on 2008/04/15 02:47
Would have to learn to keep my balance on the train.
(ID #170688) Posted on 2008/04/15 03:26
オタク by moonlight, Graphic Designer by daylight
Yes, it's a good idea. We should protect the men too! >=(
(ID #170679) Posted on 2008/04/15 02:56
Leisure Consultant, Writer, Webmaster
Women only carriages don't even work. People still feel girls up on the trains and now these chicks are scamming. These guys need to just take taxis.....
(ID #170683) Posted on 2008/04/15 03:08
McMaster Engineering Student Fall 08
Segregation is never a good thing, so I voted against it. However, that doesn't mean I approve of something this perverse. There just needs to be another answer, that's all I can say :/
(ID #170685) Posted on 2008/04/15 03:15
Wow, man only carriage, I imagine it - beer and naughty girls :D
(ID #170690) Posted on 2008/04/15 03:34
Tsk tsk, no naughty girls since it would strictly be man-only... And that would be law or rule-enforced. Sorry for shattering your dreams in pieces and bits... But it is one of my specialties.
(ID #170696) Posted on 2008/04/15 04:05
I say no to Sausage Fest I am already going to a Tech School with probably 20 men to 1 girl ratio...
(ID #170725) Posted on 2008/04/15 07:21
Sausage Fest... Urgh... Barf bag please?
(ID #170731) Posted on 2008/04/15 07:54
PhysicsMajor/Someting/Photo/Pharm Tech
It's Like New Mexico Tech. 8.7 percent female. Spent a semester there living on campus. Won't and can't to that again too weird. Their Japanese Dept. it just one man, a true Zetsubou Sensei, that is why I am going to UNM. So NMT is a great school if you have no job and get scholarships, but no women, just a bunch of Otakus running around.
(ID #171326) Posted on 2008/04/16 16:11
Kinny Riddle (Registered on 2008/03/19 21:49)
In the underground trains where I live, whenever coming and going to work during rush hour, I always make sure my hands are way up where EVERYONE can see them so as not to get framed so easily. Like my left hand grabbing on a handrail while my other hand is always somewhere near my shoulder, such as gripping tightly on my bag's shoulder strap.
(ID #170692) Posted on 2008/04/15 03:41
It only made me think that it's the right decision to be untrustful and over careful when being outside your home. I bet I would turn into such a person, after spending some of my lifetime, at jail, after being falsley acussed.
(ID #170695) Posted on 2008/04/15 04:04
Stigmata Martyr
ill vote no for segregation. what if me and my girlfriend wanted to ride together? does that mean we have to split up when where headed towards the same destination? BS if you ask me. What Japan needs to do is freakin brainwash their perverts with some electroshock therapy to the dolphin. Why must everyone suffer because a select few horny bastards can't keep their trouser snakes in check?
(ID #170697) Posted on 2008/04/15 04:05
the guy that will touch my miss will have serious trouble. Hope this things won't happen during our vacation ! And i promise dance with if i saw you in tokyo danny ! prepare yourself ^^
(ID #170703) Posted on 2008/04/15 04:16
hmm women only cars were already a dangerous precedent. an unfortunate necessity but a violation on personal liberty. mens only is downright silly. whats next? japanese only? foreigners only? you've two hands. its not a difficult concept and one that even this gaijin has figured out. use one to hold the rail/rings. use the other to hold a book/newspaper even if you dont plan to read or know how to read.
(ID #170716) Posted on 2008/04/15 05:35
Troubleshooter, Universal Exports
Very true and I always pull something out to read and use both hand. On the rare occasion I get to sit down. It's a crime against everyone and needs to stop. Women shouldn't feel they need to worry, guys shouldn't feel they need to protect their wives or girlfriends and guy shouldn't need to keep their hands in view to prove they are no criminals. Things will stay as they have for the time being. Guy will do as we always have and keep ourselves out of trouble... However, I hate to say the Japanese are going to need to stop being so passive about such things. If a guy see this going on he needs to be subtle and intervene. Like ripping the pervs arm off... ^^;