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日本語/Japanese  Fri 02/08 07:38 JST
Its been snowing a bit lately and when it does snow, I always see school girls with warm coats but at the same time wearing not-so-warm short skirts down below which is part of their uniform.

Some may consider me a sexist when I say that I don't mind school girls wearing short skirts as part of their school uniform but also feel its unfair that they have to wear short skirts in the freezing cold too - contradicting heh?
But the skirts are cute and I wont lie to you about me liking them - have a look at Konomi-chans skirt for example.
While I saw girls in trousers back in the UK, I never see Japanese school girls in trousers so I'm guessing that the uniform rules are pretty strict.

If you could make some decisions in Japan regarding what school girls wear down below, what would you decide?

Images via Vipper. The girl getting off the bus photo looks like a scene from an anime ^^;

Was just about to hit enter to upload this post when a thought came across my mind - who invented the skirt anyway and why is it originally designed for girls? Or is it? I see some men from Scotland wearing skirts and those bits around Gundams waist is called the skirt too. Maybe skirts were originally designed for Gundams?
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Dancing Queen in Southern California
Blogger, Figure collector, Baby Photographer?
Registered on 2008/01/08 12:10
I honesly like the skirts, i would hae loved to have had a cute uniform like that during school, deciding what to where every day can be a hassle, and when you get made fun off for not following the latest trends is a horrible feeling. If everyone had the same uniform i'd love it! plus if it were as cute as that i'd love it more!
(ID #71734) Posted on 2008/02/08 07:08
Martin Wandering in Taibei
Student, Spiral Warrior
Registered on 2008/02/04 10:01
I'm quite particular about what I wear as well, and while I usually hate the idea of having to wear something other than what I've chosen myself, at the same time I recall not feeling at all bothered by having to wear a silly bright-colored gown at my graduation ceremony, precisely because everyone had to wear them. As one often picked on in my younger days, I almost wish I had had a uniform in high school and earlier, just as Dancing Queen said. 

Perhaps the skirts in the snow are a bit much, though? Then again, Gundams never seem to get cold in space, which must be even chillier.
(ID #71735) Posted on 2008/02/08 07:18
Chong Mizunaga in an Afro
Afro-ed Student
Registered on 2007/12/15 09:57
Over here, it's either hot, or rainy, so I'd say skirts all-round. 
I rarely see people wear such short skirts though. orz
Maybe I just don't get out enough.
Need to go to shopping malls! (for girls)
(ID #71736) Posted on 2008/02/08 07:39
Benjamin Takeyo in Lieu de la batille decisive
ひきこもり/Hikikomori. Suits my current state more than a 大学生/University Student. ^^
Registered on 2007/12/04 23:16
Is the skirt length in the picture the compulsory length in Japan? That's really short >_< 

Not that's necessarily a bad thing. I like it actually ^^ 

For cultural comparison, in here, school girls have to wear skirt too but usually girls won't wear the skirt at that kind of length..
Some do wear the skirt at that kind of length though and they usually are some of the cutest girls in the school..

(ID #71737) Posted on 2008/02/08 07:45
Danny Choo in Tokyo
Director/代表取締役
Registered on 2006/12/11 11:06
Benjamin Takeyo,
I've never seen longer than that so I presume that its the standard.
(ID #71738) Posted on 2008/02/08 07:48
rotaryknight in Philadelphia
Mechanic, IT noobie
Registered on 2008/02/07 02:28
I rather let it be worn only during the warm seasons, but in my imaginary world, its pantsu all the time :D
(ID #71739) Posted on 2008/02/08 07:52
FatBastard in over his head
Meat Puppet
Registered on 2007/11/04 18:16
Well, what warm blooded hetrosexual male doesn't admire the leggy display of skin the short skirt has to offer? We're basically biologically coded to look and wonder what's under the hood.

From what I hear though, schoolgirls in Japan tend to take standard length skirts and either hemm them shorter or roll them up at the waist to make them appear so. They know very well what's goin on, so who am I to object. I don't... 
(ID #71740) Posted on 2008/02/08 07:54
Aya Kyunik in Melbourne, Australia
Hobby Store clerk guy thing...
Registered on 2007/05/22 16:38
I can't accept Pantsu only....then there's nothing to wonder about @_@;
(ID #71741) Posted on 2008/02/08 07:56
Benjamin Takeyo in Lieu de la batille decisive
ひきこもり/Hikikomori. Suits my current state more than a 大学生/University Student. ^^
Registered on 2007/12/04 23:16
@Aya Kyunik

Really? Don't you wonder what's beyond the pantsu..? I know I do.. ^^

Sorry for being kinda pervy here >_<

@Danny

You might be right! 
And if I may take example from Minami-ke, Haruka's friend, Maki, complained that they are forced to wear mini skirt (episode 2 at 3:37).

That make it seems like mini skirt is the (enforced??) standard there ^^
(ID #71742) Posted on 2008/02/08 08:07
soonkiong in Kuching, Malaysia
Student
Registered on 2007/08/22 12:50
girls in school here can only wears skirts exceeding knee-length, as proposed by the ministry. very sad sight. why does the typical japanese school girl uniform has such short skirts? not to mention they look great too! malaysian school uniform looks like fashion back in the forties...
(ID #71743) Posted on 2008/02/08 08:08
Henry in Makati, Philippines
anime/cosplay events organizer
Registered on 2006/12/25 19:17
i'd make miniskirts mandatory and must be worn all year round ^____^

i really love japanese school uniforms and it makes girls so moe -- 3D or 2D ^____^
(ID #71744) Posted on 2008/02/08 08:18
Amstrad in Buffalo, NY
IT
Registered on 2007/09/21 01:39
Danny: Mobile suits only have skirts because non-vertical tanks (y'know the tracked kind) have 'em. Tanks have 'armored skirts' over the sides of their roadwheels to help protect the delicate bits that make it move.

Kinda like a girl's skirt, only the only thing those are protecting against are deadly eye beams.
(ID #71745) Posted on 2008/02/08 08:30
Akiba-Kid in California, USA
Online Shop
Registered on 2008/01/17 11:35
I was also wondering why all the school girls were wearing skirts during cold winter, so they have strict dress code -_-  I do feel for them so maybe during the winter, they can wear pantsu under their skirts perhaps.
(ID #71746) Posted on 2008/02/08 08:32
jonhohx in Adelaide working to go to Tokyo
Government agent
Registered on 2007/05/14 19:31
oooh yes "shake shake" 
(ID #71748) Posted on 2008/02/08 09:15
lanie-emon in Keldabe, Malaysia
Mandalorian in training + Otaku...
Registered on 2007/06/05 11:28
Wow, that's a beautiful pic (when she is coming off the bus). Well, I reckon at least they should modify the dress code for winter, I mean it's cold and such. But mandatory to wear skirt during warmer times ^^.
(ID #71749) Posted on 2008/02/08 10:02
Gammagreen_Zero in Porto, Portugal, Earth Federation
Student, Gamer, Part-time EFSF Pilot
Registered on 2007/02/19 03:24
Actually Danny, the correct term for the "skirts" on the Gundams, and most waist-level armor, is "tasset".

And I too love them short uniform skirts. They are pretty much non-existent in Portugal...

About the cold, I guess the girls should just wear some kind of stockings under the skirt...
(ID #71750) Posted on 2008/02/08 10:03
Hirito in The Little Red Dot - Singapore
ORD!! Now awaiting Uni admission.
Registered on 2007/09/01 18:24
Skirts - Approved for all year round usage!! 

I hardly see girls here (SG) who wear skirts (Jeans material skirts are not skirts to me!), and don't even get started on the mini-skirt, hardly/doesn't exist. Even the school uniforms for girls, the length are just below the knee level.

Even without the school ruling of the uniform's skirt length, I still see lots of other girls wearing skirts of that length while in Japan for casual wear. It's like natural to them I guess.
(ID #71751) Posted on 2008/02/08 10:03
Keith in Tokyo From Singapore
IT engineer
Registered on 2007/12/05 20:39
well, wonder how they withstand the cold ~.~ 

anyway, today at roppongi, was walking back after lunch. me and my collegue was walking behind a lady, a sudden gust of strong wind blew up her short skirt!! free view of red pantsu

me and my colleague were trying to hide our laughter ;P
(ID #71752) Posted on 2008/02/08 10:04
Pyramid_Head in somewhere
student
Registered on 2008/02/07 01:13
@benjamin takeyo-san
go to SMA sekolah negeri, that's our skirt standard....

its a very long skirt, girl look like a yakuza-ish girl with it
(ID #71753) Posted on 2008/02/08 10:10
Pyramid_Head in somewhere
student
Registered on 2008/02/07 01:13
@takeyo-san
go to SMA negeri, now that's our skirt standard
(ID #71754) Posted on 2008/02/08 10:12
Ashper in Birmingham, U.K
Student
Registered on 2007/11/24 06:07
You find some girls wearing short skirts to school here, but its not cumpulsory so maby they just like all the attention :p.

As for the history of the skirt, i don't think you could really find the inventor ( to thank them of course :D )as they have been around for thousands of years....
(ID #71755) Posted on 2008/02/08 10:35
chuy in Thailand
Student
Registered on 2007/09/28 23:58
 I would prefer all-year long skirt.(cover knees) I am fascinated by long skirt. ^_^ (may be because it is being worn here.) But if it's a short skirt like Japan, I think they should allow girls to wear other things in cold weather like that...
(ID #71756) Posted on 2008/02/08 10:36
carbonicer in Australia
Uni Student
Registered on 2007/12/18 20:31
haahh when we got excahnge students from japan all the guys would be like crawling on the stairs to try and peep at their skirts.. even more funny when they have lunch on the grass its pantsu flashs!
(ID #71757) Posted on 2008/02/08 10:38
Benjamin Takeyo in Lieu de la batille decisive
ひきこもり/Hikikomori. Suits my current state more than a 大学生/University Student. ^^
Registered on 2007/12/04 23:16
@Akiba-kid

Do you mean to say that they don't have to wear pantsu during warmer seasons? ^^

@Pyramid Head

That's in Jakarta? Too far, pass (that's like 900 km away) ^^
(ID #71758) Posted on 2008/02/08 10:46
Heigen in Finland
Student
Registered on 2007/11/12 22:08
They should wear over knee socks. :3
(ID #71759) Posted on 2008/02/08 10:56
iheartassassinmaids in Closed Space
Writer/Academic/Code Monkey
Registered on 2007/01/03 12:07
I wish there was a higher res picture of that girl getting off the bus- that's a really good shot and I would have loved to have it as a my wallpaper.
(ID #71760) Posted on 2008/02/08 11:16
Ben-Ohki in Ottawa - Canada
Programmer
Registered on 2007/12/03 11:30
at first I was going to say, "that's wrong; she looks cold." But then I realized... this is a gift. we should just appreciate that we can see this sort of thing. she suffers for us all and we thank her for that.
(ID #71761) Posted on 2008/02/08 11:57
elmimmo in Tokyo
Registered on 2008/02/07 21:03
I am not 100% sure but, I do not think the skirts, being short, is compulsory at all, but quite the opposite (i.e. they are longer, but the girls do not like them that way)

Skirts of younger girls are usually below the knee, it's only when they get 15 or so that it magically "shrinks". They are still longer than you can see in the streets, girls just fold them over and over to shorten them.

I asked a friend (Japanese, girl) how come they are not even wearing panties when it is cold or something. According to her, girls are not allowed to wear colored ones (which includes black), and skin-tone ones are perceived to be a thing of old ladies.
(ID #71762) Posted on 2008/02/08 12:12
gordon in 新加坡 Singapore
宅男 Otaku/ 工程师 Engineer
Registered on 2007/06/11 14:57
i believe the main reason for skirts is to make sure girls sit graciously instead of with their legs wide apart. correct me if i'm wrong. ('~')
(ID #71763) Posted on 2008/02/08 12:20
notfair in Malaysia
Student, ACG Fans
Registered on 2007/08/14 16:34
they dont feel cold? Weather like + short skirt ...
(ID #71764) Posted on 2008/02/08 12:23
chibihien in Singapore
National Servicemen
Registered on 2008/01/19 21:34
that's why we have thermal underwear...
so the uber kawaii Japanese School Girls can continue wearing those skirts
(ID #71765) Posted on 2008/02/08 13:20
まっすぐGO! in Melbourne, Australia
Registered on 2007/11/19 18:46
I think it's because girls look good in skirts. But then the question is if we were brought up with blank slates, would fashion designers re-invent skirts for girls?

Girls should have warmer long skirts, stockings or pants to go under the skirt or warm long socks in winter. But it seems that girls survive in Japan every winter so maybe the way it is now is ok.
(ID #71767) Posted on 2008/02/08 13:26
zie in Arlington,VA USA
freelance
Registered on 2007/01/09 14:51
Damn that is dedication or the rules I know her shiny smooth legs have to be cold. 
(ID #71768) Posted on 2008/02/08 13:41
Joshua in singapore
student
Registered on 2007/08/26 11:41
Damn ... it must have been freezing ! i would have died if it was me ...


i don't mind helping those girls wear something warmer
(ID #71769) Posted on 2008/02/08 14:01
Choo in Singapore
Student
Registered on 2007/10/31 21:28
omg. =S i wanna live in japan!
BTW Danny, just wondering how did you manage to capture those pictures of a school girl? XD
(ID #71771) Posted on 2008/02/08 14:11
Choo in Singapore
Student
Registered on 2007/10/31 21:28
Woah. omg sweet sweet! i wana go Japan!! Btw Danny, im just wondering how did you managa to capture those pictures of the girl? XD
(ID #71772) Posted on 2008/02/08 14:18
Mac in Podunk, USA
IT monkey/consultant
Registered on 2006/12/29 03:14
I wouldn't say it's so much a matter of "Who invented the skirt?" but "Who decided that men should wear pants and women shouldn't?"

As most have said, girls tend to fold/hitch their skirts up, but some school skirts are getting shorter of their own accord.  It's one thing when the girls are deciding to do it (not that I award points for lasciviousness--major fail in my book), but I imagine some men are making these decisions.  What do the people around them say/think, I wonder?  
(ID #71773) Posted on 2008/02/08 14:26
Gorm in London
Student
Registered on 2007/11/06 10:16
Skirts all year round, since the schools that allow girls to wear trousers here dont make them wear a certain type like they do with the boys. So the girls will all be wearing all different styles and the boys have to wear one style. Also i like them.
(ID #71774) Posted on 2008/02/08 14:30
rinshu in Decatur, GA
Engineer
Registered on 2008/01/19 09:27
I thought they just wore long stockings when it was cold?
(ID #71775) Posted on 2008/02/08 14:36
redx in Illinois
Registered on 2008/02/07 23:35
Seasonal skirts... longer for the winter, and mildly insulated. You want them cold enough that they would ask you to come over and warm them up, but not too cold that they become frigid. ^^
(ID #71776) Posted on 2008/02/08 14:43
redx in Illinois
Registered on 2008/02/07 23:35
Long skirts in winter, slightly insulated. You want them mildly cold so they will ask you to warm them up, but not too cold that they become frigid! ^^
(ID #71780) Posted on 2008/02/08 14:56
gordon in 新加坡 Singapore
宅男 Otaku/ 工程师 Engineer
Registered on 2007/06/11 14:57
@choo

i don't think these photos are taken by danny. i don't see the dannychoo.com mark on the photos. ('~')
(ID #71781) Posted on 2008/02/08 15:09
don in Minnesota USA
Engineering Student
Registered on 2007/10/23 00:10
Skirts were designed for to keep really hot females comfortably cool.  

I keeping the head and upper body warm is more important than the lower body cause that is where all your vital organs are.  Just don't get frostburn and you will probably be alright.  
(ID #71782) Posted on 2008/02/08 15:10
howie huang in Toronto, Ontario
Student
Registered on 2007/07/22 02:27
lol some how the bus looks like a one from TTC toronto here....
and it's been slowing a crap-load around these days too..
But only if we have public schools with uniform rules...
(ID #71783) Posted on 2008/02/08 15:11
qingy in center of the galaxy
SMS
Registered on 2007/10/06 05:09
thank you god for inventing skirts...*sheds a tear*
(ID #71784) Posted on 2008/02/08 15:13
Afroshin in Scotland- Dundee
Computing Student
Registered on 2007/09/13 23:47
Men in Scotland wear kilts, not skirts!

And usually only on special occassions such as weddings, graduations and the national team losing a football match.
(ID #71785) Posted on 2008/02/08 15:19
M'C in Jakarta, Indonesia
^o^v
Registered on 2008/01/30 22:46
That look's cute, but isn't the rule very strict? It's winter + It's so damn cold. Anyway, aren't there anybody, especially girls that complain about it at Japan?
(ID #71786) Posted on 2008/02/08 15:21
kimsei in End of Time
Student
Registered on 2008/02/06 09:31
This is exactly why I can't move to Japan.  I just wouldn't know when I would snap.  A guy can only take so much.  I say yes to small skirts.
(ID #71788) Posted on 2008/02/08 15:35
robnubis in Dublin, Ireland
Student
Registered on 2008/01/27 06:01
Well the schoolgirl in this picture could be wearing sheer tights which would help keep her warm, also aren't schoolgirls allowed to wear like navy/white stockings? either full leg or thigh highs?

In Ireland, girls can wear trousers, they don't usually though, but the skirts are knee high so a lot warmer XD
(ID #71790) Posted on 2008/02/08 15:50
janken in Germany
Student
Registered on 2008/01/24 04:10
I think there are not enough girls wearing skirts! Thats such a lovely piece of clothing!
The Image is just stunning, she looks like an angel!
(ID #71791) Posted on 2008/02/08 15:56
R-1 in the "Hagane" docking bay
Personal Trooper
Registered on 2007/07/05 20:49
Man, before these pics, I thought the short skirts were a myth perpetuated by fanservice in anime... You learn something new (with this site)everyday.

Er, no complaints from the ladies about their clothes?
(ID #71792) Posted on 2008/02/08 15:59
Yuuichi in Amsterdam
Student
Registered on 2008/05/16 02:32
PANZU ONLY !
(ID #71793) Posted on 2008/02/08 16:04
YoShI in Calgary, Canada
Stealthy Ninja, Life support.
Registered on 2008/01/15 12:41
Yeah my vote was for pantsu only...

but that girl in the pic aboveis fine...she's got some uggz on! lol.

also stuff like this in canada happens all the time! though most girls here wear pants...but yeah u do see the occasional skirt here or there
(ID #71794) Posted on 2008/02/08 16:46
D_Blade in Montreal
Non-profit org. volunteering work addict
Registered on 2006/12/31 22:48
That's cute. Nice to see. ^^
I also noticed the words on her bag. "shake shake". Amusing.

And don, it's frostbite, not frostburn. ^^
(ID #71795) Posted on 2008/02/08 17:14
Leokaiser in Edinburgh, Scotland
Games Tester
Registered on 2008/01/16 02:45
I'm tempted to say that a kilt is not a skirt, but I like the idea that the Scots share some connection with Gundam.

As much as it pains me to do so, I had to vote for skirts optional. I like the uniform, I don't think I'd like to be the young girl wearing it when a gang of otaku walk past.
(ID #71796) Posted on 2008/02/08 17:24
lin-da-kenobi in Long Beach
college student
Registered on 2007/08/16 02:56
SKIRTS! well.....that schoolgil sure looks like an anime character & to see 'em wearing a skirt during that season of the year i'd get warmer just from watching 'em walk damn even JUMP! ^^  
@DBLADE: i also noticed the SHAKE SHAKE bag! hehe 
(ID #71797) Posted on 2008/02/08 18:50
necrophadian in a van down by the river
Stigmata Martyr
Registered on 2007/04/22 12:13
keep the skirts on, if it were pantsu only it would take the thrill outta the "hunt".

By the way, I wouldn't call them skirts if I were to point it out on someone wearing a kilt. Some Scots actually take offense when you call it that. Happened to me before during a parade and boy was I embarassed.

(ID #71798) Posted on 2008/02/08 18:58
ブリーチ in Bored land...
Sniffer
Registered on 2008/02/08 04:28
Japan people will endure to make you happy =D.
(ID #71799) Posted on 2008/02/08 19:46