Japan Transport

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日本語/Japanese
Sat 2007/10/20 09:41
After living in London for 27 years before moving to Japan, my wife and I was rather surprised at one particular rule they had over here in regards to what you can and cannot carry onto the trains.

A bicycle! Not sure what its like now but 8/9 years ago, carrying a bicycle on the London underground was pretty normal. After arriving in Japan, my wife bought a bicycle in Okachimachi [御徒町] near Akihabara. She then tried to carry it onto the train and was told that it was forbidden - carrying a foldable compact bike onto the trains however is OK.

Luckily, me wife is rather good with her bearings and managed to cycle from east Tokyo all the way to Higashi Fushimi in West Tokyo 28 kilometers away. I was surprised not at the distance, but at the fact that she made it through this concrete spaghetti jungle without a map or one of these.
Are you allowed to carry bicycles on to the train in your region?

Below: Taken at Narita airport after coming back from LA.
More rules. No smoking, no running on to the train, no lying on the floor or getting drunk, no selling stuff, no bombs, no singing and no begging.
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Hyun-Bin in Sydney Australia / Busan Korea (Registered on 2007/01/09 23:35)
Sterilization Technician@ Prince Of Wales Hospital
i guess depends on train size etc

with trains in Sydney(dont know about the rest of Aus)
its actually double decked(so 2 levels of seating and 1 Foyer area on the train)

whats with the donation box one?
(ID #60311) Posted on 2007/10/20 10:00
mario87 in Poland (Registered on 2007/08/22 21:23)
No bombs - is it terrorist countermeasure in Japan or peopel just tend to forgot to leave their bombs in home? :P 
(ID #60312) Posted on 2007/10/20 10:02
alucrid in Pennsylvania (Registered on 2007/09/20 10:32)
Student
Carrying on bombs an singing seem pretty equal.
(ID #60313) Posted on 2007/10/20 10:16
windbell in Singapore/シンガポール, Tokyo/東京 (Registered on 2006/12/25 13:08)
Web Developer/ウェブデベロッパー, Photographer/写真や
Wow. 28 Kilometers is crazy, and not only that, navigating in Tokyo!

We aren't allowed to carry bicycles on board the trains unless it's a foldable  compact bike. Kinda sucks when you wish to cycle to a friend's place and take the public transportation back.
(ID #60316) Posted on 2007/10/20 10:34
gordon in 新加坡 Singapore (Registered on 2007/06/11 15:45)
TK-8316 / 宅男 Otaku / 工程师 Engineer
i'm surprised i'm the first post.

ok anyway over here we aren't allowed to carry bicylces onto the trains as well.

takes up too much space i suppose.
(ID #60317) Posted on 2007/10/20 10:46
Dr. Download in Sydney, Australia (Registered on 2007/05/15 17:43)
Technician
What do the signs mean?
(ID #60318) Posted on 2007/10/20 10:47
windbell in Singapore/シンガポール, Tokyo/東京 (Registered on 2006/12/25 13:08)
Web Developer/ウェブデベロッパー, Photographer/写真や
Forgot to add...

They left out 'No using of cellphones' as well! I wonder if there's the 'No Chikan (痴漢 -  Train Pervets)' signs (LOL)

I had a bad experience while travelling back home from Musashikoyama. Some drunk salaryman entered and crashed into a couple of us passengers. He kinda squished a poster I got from TGS (That bastard!) and seemed like he's almost going to hurl. 

Good thing the train reached the station where I needed to do transferrals quick enough before anything drastic could happen ^^;
(ID #60319) Posted on 2007/10/20 10:47
Sotb in Malaysia (Registered on 2007/08/22 13:17)
Manufacturing
I voted no train here since our train here only cover such a small portion of place and has lots lots of problem!

Our government was clever enough to build trains to avoid all those high population place and have them all build to small small vilage where no ppl even bother taking train!

Although we got 3 train company tat serve our capital here but it is equal to no train!
(ID #60321) Posted on 2007/10/20 10:59
jasimp
we can carry a bike onto a train...but have to pay extra to do that..i think you have to pay twice the normal fare. 
Anyway, Gordon in Singapore, you are not the first one to post..
(ID #60325) Posted on 2007/10/20 11:28
jasimp
Hyun-Bin in Farbanti Australia, i never  realized train in Sydney has a 'foyer'...u must be on some luxury train not available to the public? ; )  
(ID #60326) Posted on 2007/10/20 11:34
gordon in 新加坡 Singapore (Registered on 2007/06/11 15:45)
TK-8316 / 宅男 Otaku / 工程师 Engineer
ya jasimp i knew that. my bad. but i swore that when i came in earlier, there was no posts at all, i did a refresh to double confirm and still no posts.

it is after i made a post that i realised that i'm not the first post. hmmm... must be a glitch in the matrix. lol. i apologise. ^^;

(ID #60328) Posted on 2007/10/20 11:38
Setsuna-san in Selangor, Malaysia (Registered on 2007/07/06 10:55)
VF-25 Pilot. Universariate Scholar.
I live in Malaysia, need i say more?? well, no actually, Sotb has already explained most of it. BUT there are at least some form of train service in the capital outside of it there are no trains at all so to speak. 
never took the train myself though so i guess im not one to talk about it.
(ID #60330) Posted on 2007/10/20 11:59
Louis in Croydon, Greater London, UK (Registered on 2007/10/18 00:41)
Student
On our trams in the UK, the rules are the same. No bikes or scooters but foldable versions are ok. Thankfully they have a bike rack near every stop ^^
(ID #60331) Posted on 2007/10/20 12:05
nunks in Sao Paulo, Brazil (Registered on 2007/09/15 00:50)
Programmer, Student
Only on weekends, and only inside the first and last cars of the train...
(ID #60334) Posted on 2007/10/20 13:01
syrix in U.S. (Registered on 2007/03/21 10:18)
student
yaaaaa....I'm sure terrorist won't take bombs on the train as soon as they see that sign.  No trains here.
(ID #60336) Posted on 2007/10/20 13:28
Kyoji in UK
LOL, a "no bombs" sign? Oh, please... "No firecrackers" would be more like it.

And I agree with Windbell. Where's the "no molesting" signs? Or was that post you made a while ago just a joke and it's really not that common in Japan?
(ID #60339) Posted on 2007/10/20 13:55
Triplekia (Registered on 2007/08/22 14:23)
Student
lolwut? no cannonball? How am I suppose to fulfill my cannonball-fondling-inside-train fetish now? I call shenanigan! Anyway, you can carry bicycle inside the train here in Melbourne. In my hometown, its "free for all", gotta get VIP seat if you want to have some decent seat.
(ID #60342) Posted on 2007/10/20 14:26
Piro in New Zealand (Registered on 2007/06/11 17:36)
Studnet
first time taking the subway in in sydney. got stuck at the barrier as i stood there wait for my ticket back. didnt know it eats the ticket when you leave -_- so had an embarrassing moment explaining it to the security guard.

i blame it on the badly designed barriers, as its build with:
ticket-in >>>>>> ticket-out >>>>> barrier
(ID #60344) Posted on 2007/10/20 14:45
D_Blade in Montreal (Registered on 2006/12/31 23:36)
Non-profit org. volunteering work addict
Wooooooo.

So you can't lie down like the Sleeping Buddha when you're drunk in trains? Or try to be the new troubadour generation (the new Sinatra)? What about humming and whistling... Forbidden too?
Seems fair to me, but only if it's truly applied.

Hyun-Bin, it says: "No soliciting donations".

And for "bombs", maybe they meant hazardous goods.
(ID #60345) Posted on 2007/10/20 14:47
OMNI Strike in Glasgow, UK (Registered on 2006/12/25 03:12)
Aero-mechanical engineering student
Your wife cycled 28 KM. Im amazed. I wouldn't have been able to cycle 10KM. I think they may have tightened up on what you can take onto trains after the what happened on July 7th last year in the London underground.
(ID #60347) Posted on 2007/10/20 14:54
squee in Singapore (Registered on 2007/09/27 05:59)
Techie
There isn't a specific sign saying we can't bring bicycles on trains here, but there's a sign that says no durians :p
(ID #60349) Posted on 2007/10/20 15:08
Joshua in singapore (Registered on 2007/08/26 12:29)
student
Ohh ... i don't think the allow bikes om trains in singapore
(ID #60353) Posted on 2007/10/20 15:27
rakushu in Mexico (Registered on 2007/09/11 03:56)
Leecher
Here you can only carry your bicycle on weekends, you know, it's when less people use the subway, or at least I belive that
(ID #60361) Posted on 2007/10/20 16:39
kurz in Malaysia (Registered on 2007/09/04 01:46)
Student
in manga slamdunk, sakuragi brought his bicycle into the train..lol
(ID #60362) Posted on 2007/10/20 16:39
Barsona in California USA (Registered on 2007/08/03 09:24)
NEET (no, student...)
special train compartments allow for one train in our local area.  Another one we have, people can bring their bikes...

but the trains are really unreliable in my opinion, and does not cover areas like Japan's metro system
(ID #60365) Posted on 2007/10/20 17:54
Kururu_luva in Richmond, BC Canada (Registered on 2007/01/20 17:53)
 Lmao i like the bomb logo. For some reason it makes me imagine of bomberman trying to get on a train.
(ID #60370) Posted on 2007/10/20 18:43
DRAGUN in Arizona, USA (Registered on 2007/08/23 05:32)
Design Consultant
Wait wait.. so according to this sign, you cant carry a bicycle, or pocket change, or a ninja microphone, or a Ba-bomb, a personal sushi chef, a prostrate mannequin, the Bionic Man, or pot on the train.. but you CAN carry a Dismembered Torso as long as its on a cart? Hmmmmm.. Odd. I guess I have to leave my personal sushi chef at home when I go to Japan. Thats kind of inconvenient.
(ID #60371) Posted on 2007/10/20 18:47
chun in work, buried ^^; (Registered on 2007/01/09 15:21)
part time illustrationist, doll clothing seamstress
your wife rox! I'd have most likely lost my way for sure o_o
(ID #60374) Posted on 2007/10/20 19:41
.:nadie:. in La Plata, Argentina (Registered on 2007/10/12 06:14)
Student
Here its very normal to see bicycles on trains...
(ID #60375) Posted on 2007/10/20 19:51
CyruzDraxs in Kelowna, BC, Canada (Registered on 2007/09/11 10:31)
Web Design & Development
This post has the best comments. You guys are awesome. lmao.
(ID #60376) Posted on 2007/10/20 20:03
Adun in Sydney, Australia (Registered on 2007/01/01 15:00)
ColdFusion Developer
Bicycles are allowed on the trains here in Sydney, but you have to pay half a fare to allow for it though.
(ID #60377) Posted on 2007/10/20 20:39
Shinikenshi
Interesting. This must have been a fairly new addition since I've never noticed that sign for the Keisei Line even after all the times I've taken it whenever I flew into Narita. Amusing. I remember a friend of mine and I were traveling on a local JR line in the greater Tokyo area and he had a regular bike, but he had some crazy large bag that was able to fit it with the wheels removed from the frame. o_o

Yeah, and talk about Tokyo streets, how does anyone navigate them? I used to live in Okayama City and I biked around town all the time, but Okayama City is certainly MUCH smaller in comparison. ^^;
(ID #60378) Posted on 2007/10/20 21:30
Bulat in Canada (Registered on 2007/04/04 15:14)
Part-time otaku
is that big circle a "no bombs" sign?
(ID #60379) Posted on 2007/10/20 21:53
Leo in San Francisco (Registered on 2006/12/24 17:30)
Email & Network Support/Administration
I don't really have a problem with the no smoking and no bombs part. Of course, in my neck of the woods, we don't have subways/trains. Just buses that have a rack in the front for the bikes. Too bad it can't be used for the annoying passengers. And those who insist on singing too. 
(ID #60388) Posted on 2007/10/21 01:17
JapanAnime in Hilversum, Holland (Registered on 2007/08/05 19:11)
Student Business Economics
LOL, no bombs! Does that include noisy farts as well? XD Here in Holland it's allowed to carry bicycles on the train and subway.
(ID #60395) Posted on 2007/10/21 02:53
animes in cephiro (Registered on 2007/01/23 15:18)
mahou kishi
too many in Japan, that would be a trouble in the train because everyone would bring one
(ID #60427) Posted on 2007/10/21 06:17
AK-kun in Singapore (Registered on 2007/06/19 23:36)
Writer.
Bicycles on our MRTs (Mass Rapid Transport)?  Unheard of, but worth trying.
(ID #60447) Posted on 2007/10/21 13:26
Henry in /usr/bin/ (Registered on 2006/12/25 20:05)
anime/cosplay events organizer
afaik, MRT/LRT systems here don't have any rules regarding about bringing bicycles  (foldable or otherwise) inside the trains and no one has attempted to bring one...but it would be interesting if i bring one ^___^
(ID #60481) Posted on 2007/10/22 03:05
Evo_Spec in Alberta, Canada (Registered on 2007/10/21 14:01)
My train system here allows bicycles, but not at certain times (rush hour)
(ID #60491) Posted on 2007/10/22 04:16
Briant in Lafayette (Registered on 2007/08/04 18:35)
Student
No smoking, no running on to the train, no lying on the floor or getting drunk, no selling stuff, no bombs, no singing and no begging??? Lol, well smoking I can understand. Running onto trains I suppose makes sense since I read that article about how the doors won't open even if you have something caught. lying on the floor/getting drunk? Doesn't make much sense, but I've seen a few animes/shows with those drunks on the trains...and their neckties on their heads. So I guess there's a lot of them?? Selling, doesn't make too much sense. I mean, a small deal or so I can understand, but I guess they don't want ppl to have so kind of business/company on the train. Bombs...are you even allowed to have them anywhere? As for singing and begging...those seem a bit non sense to me.
(ID #60507) Posted on 2007/10/22 07:44
Boris in USA (Registered on 2006/12/26 01:00)
Interactive Media Design and Graphic Design
well, here in Washington DC Metro (Which covers Maryland, Washington DC and Virginia) i think you can't do it during rush hour, but not sure. Other then that we have normal rules of like no food, no drinking (which is kind of weird, is bottle of water not allowed? lol). Also, if you bring newspaper you have to take it with you and put it in newspaper recycling that is located in all metro exits. However, a lot of people do not do it and sometimes you can see pile of newspapers in a train. I find it very bad, as its not hard to take your newspaper. 
(ID #60546) Posted on 2007/10/22 19:09
jasimp
Gordon in Singapore, wow...you r so quick in responding my post, must be a regular of dannychoo.com. yeah, i know that happen, maybe a lot of people posting at the same time.
(ID #60617) Posted on 2007/10/23 10:28
kdk087 in Sydney, New South Wales. Australia. (Registered on 2007/10/19 00:31)
Student
In Sydney Australia, During peak hours you have to buy a child ticket for the bike... but during non-peak its free.
(ID #60713) Posted on 2007/10/24 02:43
lin-da-kenobi in Long Beach (Registered on 2007/08/16 03:44)
not sure yet...
we can take bicycles inside the train here in long beach
(ID #60729) Posted on 2007/10/24 04:57
Nopy in Canada (Registered on 2007/09/16 07:34)
We're not allowed to take bicycles onto trains during rush hour, but the rest of the time is ok. 
(ID #64295) Posted on 2007/11/21 05:00
lostandfound in a place where you'll never find... (Registered on 2007/10/22 02:58)
Part human, part student, 100% loser
No bicycles allowed here too... Wow Danny, you have a super wife... Super stamina and super memory, amazing!~
(ID #70653) Posted on 2008/01/25 08:25
lazerbeak in Germany (Registered on 2008/01/21 20:56)
System Administrator
allowed over here, but you have to pay a small fee to your monthly ticket for it. or maybe they changed it, have never taken a bike on the train myself. then again, my last train ride was like 1 year ago^^
(ID #100302) Posted on 2008/03/03 19:50
Burford in the miyamazakura (Registered on 2008/05/28 21:17)
Handyman atm.
28Km in a city? Wow. Thats... thats pretty damn incredible!
Um, not allowed to carry large items (at ticket dude's discretion as to what that means) on the trains in devon, since they're incredibly narrow and full of forward facing seats. Stupid devon.
(ID #325199) Posted on 2008/10/07 02:27
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